Wife had threesomes, lied to husband about it. He found out and handled it in the most RedPill way.

NiftyDolphin · 2015-03-23T15:07:24+00:00

She wanted him to yell and scream like a beta who's not in control of his emotions. She wanted him to display weakness so she'd feel better about herself.

She wanted him to hand her a Victim Card. He didn't and she's pissed that her easy-out hasn't appeared.

Edit: I agree with the commenters. It's very matter of fact and straightforward. It reads like a guy wrote it.

max_peenor · 2015-03-23T16:17:38+00:00

Well, he had the fucking document with him this morning. He said he'd pay off the remainder of my student loans, which he isn't "legally obligated" to do. While I appreciate that, I am going to meet with my lawyer this week and see if the agreement can be challenged in court.

And straight to the money drawer. Typical.

bat_mayn · 2015-03-23T15:38:36+00:00

Did you read the last part? She is trying to get his prenup thrown out in court. She thinks she is owed something for spending the last 5 years with him. I doubt her effort will succeed. The top comments are against her though. Damn he maintained good frame.

sunnybonez · 2015-03-23T15:53:40+00:00

"My husband owns multiple businesses and wouldn't get married without a prenup. I signed it, honest-to-god thinking we'd never, EVER have to use it. Well, he had the fucking document with him this morning. He said he'd pay off the remainder of my student loans, which he isn't "legally obligated" to do. While I appreciate that, I am going to meet with my lawyer this week and see if the agreement can be challenged in court. We have built a life together, I gave him 5 of the best years of my life and I've been 100% faithful to him - I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash."(P.6)

Divorce rape incoming.

Edited for quotes + source.

rp_valiant · 2015-03-23T15:10:57+00:00

the comments are tearing this woman a new one too - for the beta haven that is /r/relationships, they're injecting some serious Red Pill truth into the thread.

LeGrandDiableBlanc · 2015-03-23T15:52:07+00:00

One of the comments struck a chord with me:

It was apparently something that you knew would be a big enough deal to your husband that you didn't want it coming out. That's certainly your right. But it is silly of you to pretend that something you felt that was worth hiding is somehow now insignifant enough for you're husband to divorce you.

Has anyone else noticed this thread of cognitive dissonance everywhere? Why is it that almost everyone who says 'the past doesn't matter' use that as a justification for... hiding details about their own past? Instinctually, they know that these things matter!

If I have found one thing that every woman I have ever met has lied to me about, it has been their sexual past. Every. Single. One. No exceptions. (I found out the truth through third parties, or from the horse’s mouth through trickle truths, a form of lying.) Women instinctively know how valuable their sexuality is. Not only in the sense of fertility and paternity, though this is the foundation for the instincts. They instinctively understand that giving up sexual access is the single most complimentary thing they can do for a man. It is the highest form of compliment that they have to give. They equally understand, thus, why it would make a man angry to hear about how the value in his woman he has worked hard for was given away on a whim to other men for, what, some fleeting excitement? How am I supposed to feel if you're charging me for an inferior product to that which you used to give away?

The only recourse is this kind mental gymnastics, whereby the reason something matters in the first place is obscured precisely because it matters.

Groshub · 2015-03-23T16:29:05+00:00

My husband owns multiple businesses and wouldn't get married without a prenup. I signed it, honest-to-god thinking we'd never, EVER have to use it.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my GIANT THROBBING ERECTION

FattestRabbit · 2015-03-23T15:21:19+00:00

His view of me has been irreparably changed and he no longer sees me "as someone worthy of being [his] wife". (quoting him here... fucking ~~prick~~ hero )

This quote sums up my thoughts, especially after seeing her decide to challenge the prenup. So much for her leaving with whatever dignity she claimed to have as a "changed woman" from her drug-fueled DP-me college days.

DrunkNewb · 2015-03-23T15:51:45+00:00

My RP buddy and I were trying to track down the original post after it got removed; thanks for the archive link!

This story is such absolute gold. I want my daughters and sisters to read this shit so they know how men really think when it comes to your sexual history. Its ultimately your choice, but realize that society's "you can do whatever you want" mentality is really only hurting your chances later on down the road.

Ladies, make good decisions NOW for your life LATER.

HighOnLife · 2015-03-23T15:49:10+00:00

That post is locked. /r/relationships is a complete joke.

HumanSockPuppet · 2015-03-23T16:06:32+00:00

Nothing I could do or say could convince him that these were past mistakes and not reflective of who I am today. He wasn't angry with me, didn't call me a slut or anything like that. Never once raised his voice. Part of me wishes he did, although I can't exactly say why right now. It felt like I was being laid off from a job. [emphasis mine]

You were laid off from a job, darling. Being an honest, dutiful wife IS your job, and you failed in it.

What have I said in the past?

Remember, women are candidates applying to be your girlfriend. Don't just hire someone because you want the position filled. Make sure you vet your candidates fiercely and hire the right one for the job.

Hopefully our plucky hero's pre-nup will save him from being divorce-raped, and he will have the good sense not to get married at all next time.

joazito · 2015-03-23T16:31:42+00:00

Original post text was removed, and we're only hearing one side of the story. But here's a few things left unclear:

Someone mentioned that OP presented herself as a virgin, supposedly as the husband.
A comment mentions that OP denied the husband some stuff in bed. I can only imagine his reaction "she did MMF, but she wouldn't do X with me?"
Who knows what the friend told him. For all we know OP might have been unfaithful and the friend somehow leaked this.

We can imagine OP's husband to be wealthy as he owns several businesses. OP signed a pre-nup, but expects 5 years of (alleged) fidelity to be enough to get a good portion of that wealth.

Personally I wouldn't leave a woman for having threesomes before we met, but all the other stuff rubs me the wrong way. I wonder how (in)frequently they had sex, maybe she was giving him minimal service only and he figured that she just wasn't attracted to him.

balalasaurus · 2015-03-23T15:40:34+00:00

My favorite comment so far is this

Why is he a prick? If he had known about your past when you two began dating and decided to stop because he wasnt comfortable would he still be a prick? I can see how he feels deceived and in this sub people will tell you that the way one feels cant be helped and are not wrong.

I guess now you can try to find someone that will accept you for your past and he can find someone who he doesnt feel like deceited him

The fact that someone made an honest-to-god rational statement like this is fucking gold if you ask me. Cue hamsters to come to the rescue though.

Forget about the bit where she had a history of being a slut. No he's the one with the questionable character. He's the prick. Lady needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror, if she can even look at herself that is.

bassivemalls · 2015-03-23T17:07:49+00:00

Ah yes, the pre-nup. Remember guys in America pre-nups only protect you from your assets before marriage. Anything he made during the marriage she has a right to. Yeah. Even with a fucking document signed beforehand you're not fully protected and if you made all your money while you were with her too fucking bad.

emf41 · 2015-03-23T21:36:51+00:00

5 years of living in affluence...

Student loans paid off...

Get dumped for lying...

Pissed off and now challenging prenup...

Getting support from female redditors and white knights...

I've lost count of how many of these I've read on this reddit. Women often have entitlement issues.

I thought it was about him recognizing that she was sexually restrictive with him and sexually free with others - which seeded doubt in his mind about her true feelings for him, but even though I still think that is a part of the mix here, can definitely understand why the husband feels conned about being misled. That's the lynchpin in this situation.

He has money - sounds to me like quite a bit of it. She gave him a false image of herself to cash in on his ability to provide. He found out and dumped her like the terminator.

He convinced her to sign a prenup? Dude is alpha.

I'm guessing that the way the marriage was going, he wasn't the happiest about it. Probably over the years he kind of figured out that he sold himself short in the marriage and couldn't quite put his finger on why, and didn't have a moral reason for breaking the marriage vow. He probably felt the same sense of duty and empathy we all feel when in a commitment. Then when the bomb got dropped on her rampant promiscuity it was his get-out-of-jail-free card. It was a confirmation of the feelings that had been tugging at him. It all made sense.

Has anyone ever gotten into a serious LTR and then found yourself becoming increasingly miserable with the person you are with? Habits are difficult to break. We men have a natural instinct for duty. Not at all like women who have a natural instinct for self preservation. Its not easy breaking a promise of commitment. After all it is a promise. So many of us get tied up to situations that are not ideal for a myriad of reasons. In his case, it was blatant deception. We feel guilt and pity. We do care about that person to some degree, but we're also not happy ourselves. Difference is with most men is we stick it out and try to make it work - almost always at our detriment. Women, in contrast, will dump you in the street and not lose a blink of sleep if they begin to see a relationship as unfavorable.

We don't always get gifted a free exit door like this guy got. The woman that told him the truth did him a BIG favor - and probably knew full well the consequences. No fucks were given. It was about time that Mr. Big knows the truth.

Over the past few years of reflection, I've come to realize that both man and woman, everyone is entitled to pursue their personal vision of happiness and fulfillment. If a woman wants a divorce because she's unhaaappy then fuck? What can you do? Shit happens. Man the fuck up and take your lumps. IMO, same applies for the man. He has a right to personal fulfillment as well. I think this applies in all situations EXCEPT when children are involved, then both parties need to adjust the priority to the children. The problem here is in western society, men don't really have the right to pursue happiness. We are held to our commitments, even at our detriment. Women are not held to this same standard. Men are expected to maintain a portion of their martial commitment (financial) multiple years beyond divorce and woman are not (very rarely are they).

As for the lessons we can draw?

For one... Never Listen and Believe always Trust but Verify.

Two... Marriage is for raising a family. If you have no plan to engage in that, then you have no reason to marry.

Three... If you do decide to marry, you need to have no doubts about your decision and no disillusions about your risks. Take precautions. Don't be hasty. Build up sufficient pre-marital assets and establish yourself before considering the step. Get a prenuptual agreement and make sure to the best of your ability you abide by its conditions.

Brothers, we live in a time where we are labeled the enemies of society, while being expected to support it while operating from codified disadvantage. Everyone one of us can be slandered, libeled and even jailed on a woman's whim without any proof whatsoever. It happened to me, I know. Furthermore, women see us as stupid, servile targets to be manipulated for their gratification. Today a man must raise his awareness level and plan his life with no small caution.

Look at Mr. Big. His wife lied to his face, lived that lie for years and was planning to take it to her grave. Does that sound like someone who gives a flying shit about her husband's wants/needs/happiness? Sure as fuck to me doesn't.

Why? Because she's a selfish idiot who doesn't GAF.

Keep your radar up fellas. Even alphas like Mr. Big can get shitfucked by being too trusting and naive.

trpSenator · 2015-03-23T16:08:36+00:00

I totally see this guys perspective. I'd be pissed to to find out you've married the town whore. This guy can have the pick of the litter only to find out he ended up getting that woman everyone talks down about when she's not around. He got fucked over.

And her "that's not who I am now" defense shows a complete lack of empathy or understanding of the situation.

2015-03-23T20:52:02+00:00

I found a web archive of the deleted original post before the update mentioned in the OP, which you can view here : http://i.imgur.com/PFOmsmh.png

Here's the text of the original post:

My husband [M34] of 2 years found out some unsavory details about my [F31] past, and I'm scared it could lead to divorce.Relationships (self.relationships)

submitted 2 hours ago by husbandhatesme

TL;DR - My husband [M34] of 2 years found out some of my [F31] sexual exploits in college. He has barely talked to me since he found out, and I'm afraid our relationship might be finished over something I did 10 years ago before I even knew him.

I'll try and keep this short. We've known each other 5 years, been married for 2 years, and up until last weekend things were perfectly fine. Maybe once in a while we'd bicker about money or something, but 99% of the time we were happy together. While out last weekend for a friends birthday, a (now ex) friend of mine told my husband about a relationship I had in college.

My husband knew about my college boyfriend, but obviously I didn't share intimate details about our sex life. Well... it came out that I used to engage in threesomes with him and his male roommate. Probably 12-15 in total, but all my husband knows is >that it was 'more than once'.

College was a totally different time in my life. I was drinking every weekend, doing recreational drugs every month, partying, having casual flings - just like everyone else at that age. It was a hedonistic "live for today" lifestyle that I thankfully grew out of. I look back on those years with a lot of regrets, and not just about my sex life. I mean, it was 10+ years ago. I'm a totally different person now.

Regardless, I know my husband sees me in a totally different light. He hasn't slept in our bed since he found out, and he's barely spoken to me all week. I'm so scared he'll divorce me, I'm walking on eggshells just trying to stay out of his way while he works through this. I really want to sit him down and clear the air, I just don't know where to begin... I feel like one slip of the tongue and our relationship could be completely over.

I know I'm not a good person for keeping this from him, so please don't lecture me. It was a chapter of my life I'd thought I'd closed for good. It was my ONE secret, and I honestly debated telling him about it but came to the conclusion that no positive outcome could come from it.

SabaBoBaba · 2015-03-23T16:34:57+00:00

Oh, if I were that man the moment I hear about her wanting to challenge the prenup in court is the moment I withdraw the offer of paying her student loans. I will not help someone who spits in the eye of my generosity.

thedude122487 · 2015-03-23T17:37:37+00:00

Honestly, I thought the people who were trolling in that thread were the blue pillers saying things like

This sucks. :( The comments on your previous post also suck. It's evidence of really immature thinking to condemn someone based on something harmless they did more than ten years ago.

which is completely a red herring. He's not divorcing her because of something harmless she did more than ten years ago, he's divorcing her because she lied about something that would have caused him to not marry her in the first place had he known.

DreadLockedHaitian · 2015-03-23T15:34:33+00:00

I'm just confused at the whole 'anti-red pill' circlejerk. She's clearly a loose woman and no self-respecting person would put up with that shit.

How the fuck does one justify this type of behavior?

oldredder · 2015-03-23T15:47:30+00:00

he says he no longer trusts me because I "kept something this big" from him our whole relationship. Nothing I could do or say could convince him that these were past mistakes and not reflective of who I am today. He wasn't angry with me, didn't call me a slut or anything like that. Never once raised his voice.

I caught a case of feels for a girl last year which was my last serious relationship. When she talked about wanting to be serious and I agreed, I told her that I expected her to discuss any serious feelings should they come up. It was a rebound situation with her ex so I wasn't expecting it to last very long, but I failed to establish good boundaries and expected her to be loyal which I recognize in hindsight was a recipe for disaster.

This quote is funny because she had a habit of making me a few minutes late for work, so when I brought it up, she requested for me to yell at her for it. No, you're an adult. You know what you're doing.

Anyway, while the sexual favors didn't stop (it only lasted about a month and a half) it appeared she made up with her ex-boyfriend and broke up with me. I didn't yell at all, and I remembered TRP and I said "well I accept that, you can't negotiate desire."

She tried to LJBF-zone me, offer for me to date her younger sister because we apparently had more in common, and then left. I didn't follow up about her sister, I'm smart enough to know that it was a shit test. I ran into her a few weeks later and she asked me to lunch. I followed up, she flaked, then I flaked, and then I finally told her "too bad about lunch" and she said sent me an essay "hope we can still be friends and not awkward" and I said "Good to hear from you, unfortunately friendship is not consistent in my intentions with you but it won't be awkward for me. Peace" and I've been going dark ever since.

I never once got angry and I dealt with my feelings like a man. Before red pill, I would have whined and complained and left confused. But I know so much now, and I know my future relationships will be healthier for me.

lLoveLamp · 2015-03-23T16:44:05+00:00

Noob question that's been bothering me since I've swallowed the Red Pill about a year ago.

Following TRP mentality, a girl that got involved in such sex acts in the past (threesomes, gang bang and other 'deviant' forms of sex), will be permanently stained? Meaning she will never be looked up as a marriage, or even LTR-worthy?

Stephen_Reeves · 2015-03-23T18:32:44+00:00

Even after everything I know, and have experienced, the fact that she would still go for the pre-nup blows my mind every time. Women are like a completely different species.

Waldo00 · 2015-03-23T16:13:55+00:00

The women just seriously don't understand the male perspective. They have never been told to respect a man or his desires. They don't understand the problem, or they cannot ever admit that they do, as that would translate directly to: I don't give one shit what you want.

LadyLumen · 2015-03-23T16:23:09+00:00

I think she also wanted him to get angry because anger is a sign of passion. Sometimes people get the most jealous or angry at the people they love because of all the passion they feel. But this marriage is basically a deflated balloon. There is no passion, no feeling left. This guy has emotionally detached himself and is ready to move on, that is why she is angry.

To flip the genders here, we should imagine that a man lied to a woman and told her he had millions in the bank before marriage. Then she finds out that he's dead broke, unemployed and in debt. Would a woman want a divorce in this situation? Most likely.

iluminatiNYC · 2015-03-23T21:19:53+00:00

As someone who sent my divorce papers to my then-wife to her job, then coldly told her that there was no way we could ever reconcile, I can back this up. Once a man is fed up, there's nothing to do. After that point, the marriage is a bad business deal that has to be wrapped up. She needs to realize that she screwed up and now has to take the L.

Here's to hoping he had the adult beverage of his choice (or a nice meal if he doesn't drink) in order to celebrate this flawless victory.

2015-03-23T16:28:10+00:00

When I dropped the divorce talk on my wife last September, I was stoic the whole time. It's how I naturally get when stress rises; I'm in control of the situation, not the other way around.

She was upset, mostly it seemed, by the fact that I wasn't crying and visibly upset because I was going to leave her.

Why would I be upset? I'm making the decision... I'm making the decision because of our dead sex life. I'm upset that I feel like I have to start over after 15 years, but I don't need to be an emotional mess about it.

We have since "reconciled." But I've started an MAP to raise my SMV. I'm aloof to her shit tests (though they are so few and far between in the past few weeks) and I'm aloof to any time she turns me down for sex.

The point is, that one talk set in motion all TRP actions by me... And then I found this place, and realized I did everything right starting last September and was clearly a social and financial battery for her matrix before that. Most importantly, she has demonstrated by that (and a few smaller times) action that I have the upper hand.

I get this guy's position. He clearly had the upper hand the whole time in the relationship... Specifically the financial aspect coupled with a pre-nuptial agreement. She likely felt like she was better physically and sexually because of her past, and she probably liked thinking about how everyone knew except her husband; she felt she was the "hot one" and her husband was (hamster warning) lucky to have her even though we all know - we. All. Know.- she rationed sex acts out to him. Because if he was getting the anal he wanted and the CoF he wanted he wouldn't feel so "conned." Now he realizes he wasn't in control, he was a financial and social battery keeping her matrix alive.

Time to unplug, sir. Welcome down the rabbit hole.

EDIT: spell-check corrections

RPthrowaway123 · 2015-03-23T18:40:43+00:00

(quoting him here... fucking prick)

This woman is gonna fight tooth and nail. Calling names just to get petty vengeance, knowing she doesn't have much chance to win in substance.

Part of me wishes he did, although I can't exactly say why right now.

So she could get him emotional and tactically use it against him as the drama unfolds.

We have built a life together, I gave him 5 of the best years of my life and I've been 100% faithful to him - I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.

Classic hamstering to obtain some moral high ground to get some cash and to bring more justification to her bitter vengeance.

He's ended friendships and business partnerships over less.

Holy shit.

Requi3m · 2015-03-23T22:08:26+00:00

They deleted her post and every comment that was not %100 feminist minded. Typical /r/relationships feminazi moderators.

2015-03-23T22:16:36+00:00

Princess is upset because she hid and lied about her past life decisions from someone who's supposed to be her "life partner"

Now she's contact lawyers attempting to financially rape him. Shows how much she loved him!

I've got to say, this guy is RP as fuck. Smart man.

2015-03-23T15:33:19+00:00

nice to see a story with a happy ending

DetectiveDing-Daaahh · 2015-03-23T17:00:28+00:00

At least we can tell she KNOWS why he's acting detatched and unemotional, and that's what's eating her up. She recognizes that every time he sees her he pictures the penile rotisserie that she was all too willing to engage in, which no doubt is helping him get on with his own life, rather than grieving over the loss of his innocent little angel.

2015-03-23T17:04:40+00:00

0) Don't get fucking married in the first place

RedBigMan · 2015-03-23T17:47:20+00:00

Smart guy to get a prenup before getting married. Notice that the woman STILL wants to challenge it in court. Even after lying to her own spouse about sexual deviancy, even after he agreed to pay off her loans in an act of generosity, her greed can't be fulfilled. She wants more. She wants half his money and his business.

Holy fuck guy is willing to give her far more than her prenup would 'entitle' her to and she still wants to try and take a swing in court for CASH AND PRIZES... I hope he retracts the offer and she gets jack shit now.

2015-03-23T18:19:08+00:00

She was mad he didn't get angry because that would have allowed her to feel like he was the one attacking her and thus that it was HIS fault that the drama/yelling/problem existed.

You know, if this woman really wanted him to never know it, she could have managed to do it. She could have gotten rid of her cock-carroussel rider friends for instance. She let some evidences because she was planing for a divorce for a long time. That's why she calmly decided to not take into account his generosity and to get as more as she can.

Even better than a prenup : don't get married.

Carbone · 2015-03-23T18:32:27+00:00

I don't think your husband is a bad guy. Maybe he just has different views on sex.

he just has different views on sex.

views on sex.

This is where we're failing. The machine accept those types of behaviour as normal.

It's stupid how we demand to know everything about an used car before purchasing it ... but when we're speaking about our reproductive partner we should pull the trigger without doing some Due Diligence.

oldbluebox · 2015-03-23T18:34:03+00:00

Handled it the exact way any respectable man would.

stolenlogic · 2015-03-23T21:37:49+00:00

I love that she called him a prick. Damn that's a tall fucking horse you're riding in on there madam. Maybe I can interest you in a second horse to ride?

2015-03-23T22:49:15+00:00

Hides a threesome, gets shocked when man finds out, that was the "old" me, then sues for all the money she can. this bitch is straight up worthless

TheRedPilsner · 2015-03-23T23:28:19+00:00

I wanna buy this woman's husband a beer. He's handling the situation like a boss. I hope she gets absolutely nothing in the divorce.

MattyAnon · 2015-03-23T17:02:18+00:00

no longer sees me "as someone worthy of being [his] wife". (quoting him here... fucking prick)

(my emphasis)

She lies to appear worthy of being his wife, and then calls him a "fucking prick" when her lies reveal she isn't. She's trying to hate him to justify screwing him over in court.

Fair play to the guy... hopefully solid prenup although shouldn't pay off the rest of her loan. Especially as she's talking to a lawyer to try to get more.

Cut her off!

MattBoBat · 2015-03-23T16:51:18+00:00

I love the comments that are like "Good riddance! What an asshole!" hahahah. Uhm.. did you read the post? This woman is freaking out because the easy life her husband has given her is being stripped away now that he learned of her deceit through a mutual friend.

the_red_scimitar · 2015-03-23T20:47:15+00:00

It'll be slightly glorious to testify about her college history - to get HER to HAVE TO admit it, in public, in a courtroom.

WWJaxD1973 · 2015-03-23T23:00:36+00:00

I think this man should be a role model. And this whole post and her previous one should be archived for future Red Pillers.

I myself am new to RedPill philosophy and find it fascinating. However, I read the first post from the OP on this and I wanted to comment in anger because I was frustrated that she could be as stupid as she was to not understand where her husband was coming from or why he would think like he might have been. I wanted to yell, "You stuid cunt! You were a whore! You lied! You omitted the truth!" but I kept my fingers silent.

Big ups to this whore's husband for doing it JUST like he should have and for being what should (and had better be) an inspiration to us who are just starting.

itwasntme19 · 2015-03-24T02:58:18+00:00

He was too harsh? but getting both holes pumped full of cock at the same time wasn't? great logic.

Garconanokin · 2015-03-23T15:48:08+00:00

If it gets to court, I look forward to this bitch's slutty laundry being aired in front of the community.

Edit: it's nice to see majority support for the guy in the follow up thread.

2015-03-23T19:36:25+00:00

If she knew this was a potential deal-killer before the marriage, why didn't she get it out in the open and potentially save them all some has.....

oh wait

he's worth a ton and owns a bunch of businesses.

GOT IT.

With the women, it'$ alway$ about $omething, huh.

raceAround126 · 2015-03-23T18:50:53+00:00

I gotta ask, opinions aside.

Let's say you are with a woman and everything is great, all top notch and all the rest.

Exactly how does this come up? "Hey baby, just so you know, I spent most of my 20s getting spitroasted by random cawk"... I mean, not to defend a slut but how does this come up?

Don't get me wrong, if I found out this about my girl the hard way (i.e. friend or former boyfriend) then it would be a nope nope nope all the way to fucknopesville.

kevkos · 2015-03-23T23:26:23+00:00

Morals of the story:

Don't marry. Ever.
Don't make the assumption that you know EVERYTHING about your LTRs past based on how she is in the present.
Despite the above, I would see nothing wrong with him showing a little anger here.

Showing anger doesn't mean flying off the handle, it means making it clear you are angry, and you are also cutting her out of your life.

2015-03-23T23:44:33+00:00

everyone defending the woman please answeer this question - if its no big deal why keep it a secret?

2015-03-24T03:33:02+00:00

Even if she loses her husband/meal ticket, look at the bright side, she has a swarm of internet betas and feminists to empower her and that is what truly matters at the end. Okay time to stop drinking.

CastratedBetaOrbiter · 2015-03-24T04:25:19+00:00

This thread makes me ill because I've witnessed this result in divorce rape for the man. Pre-nup or not, the courts are going to be on that cunt's side.

oldredder · 2015-03-24T09:03:55+00:00

But-but-but she's a special snowflake that just needed to discover herself before denying her husband the best sexuality she ever could have given him and never will. Clearly now the only way to fix her feelz is by extracting all contents of his wallet.

She just wanted to have some Richard Salad, that's all!

_Meursault · 2015-03-23T19:27:36+00:00

We have built a life together, I gave him 5 of the best years of my life and I've been 100% faithful to him - I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.

like a piece of trash

Except thats exactly what you are, a piece of trash. Notice how the "best 5 years of her life", in her own words, are the wall and post wall period of 29-34ish. She realizes that her changes of finding another ~~wallet~~ husband have lowered dramatically in this short span of 5 years, and she wants her financial compensation damn it!

This really just bums me out. I know getting married is financial, emotional, and legal suicide now a days, but if someone wants to raise kids in suburbia, what are our options? Adopting as a single father would be nigh impossible ("What are you, a pedophile?!") and even if you pay a woman to be impregnated and birth your child, she can turn right around and decide to keep the baby at its birth.

HeisenSingh · 2015-03-24T01:31:42+00:00

i got down-voted is SRD for writing all this could of been avoid if she was honest with him from the beginning.there said the past is past and threesomes were normal in college. i said what the fuck kind college is that no wonder america has high divorce rates when there start of a marriage with those kind of fucking secrets and think its okay.

AugmentedFury · 2015-03-23T22:17:04+00:00

I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.

Oh yes you do..

Congrats to the husband. He made the right choice.

KettleMeetPot · 2015-03-23T16:06:21+00:00

It's totally a troll post. Reads like a Redpill fantasy. No way a real woman manages to fit every one of their sick stereotypes.

That comment fucking cracked me up. That dude has no grasp on reality, obviously hasn't had many female friends/companions and doesn't watch the news.

To top it off, the only valid points in all of those comments were the ones about

his sexual morals may simply be different than yours and to him that isn't acceptable

And it's 100% true. He may have only been with a few people. People are confusing disclosing sexual past and "TELLING EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY PARTNER"

I don't necessarily care about a females sexual past. But if I found out she was into getting railed by 10 dudes at a time or fucked her dog as a teen... I'd probably walk away. I wouldn't need the details. And I'm a pretty sexually liberal guy.

Mister_Kurtz · 2015-03-23T20:34:28+00:00

Just so I understand, this had nothing to do with her behaviour once they were together. Whatever she did was prior to them getting together. Am I right on that?

cover20 · 2015-03-24T03:29:42+00:00

wow i hope he crushes her in court. What a gold digger.

2015-03-24T03:31:47+00:00

Seems like the guy isn't sexually promiscuous, I think it's reasonable for him to expect the same of his wife.

loknarash · 2015-03-24T05:01:08+00:00

We have built a life together, I gave him 5 of the best years of my life and I've been 100% faithful to him - I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.

I wish...I wish I could drink her tears while masturbating using my own tears as lube from laughing hysterically at her worthless, stupid face, only to orgasm from watching her sob uncontrollably whilst reading this red pill circle jerk. Probably hari kari time for Ms. "I only love anal when my naughty girl hole is being filled at the same time."

2015-05-11T15:16:02+00:00

My husband owns multiple businesses and wouldn't get married without a prenup. I signed it, honest-to-god thinking we'd never, EVER have to use it. Well, he had the fucking document with him this morning. He said he'd pay off the remainder of my student loans, which he isn't "legally obligated" to do. While I appreciate that, I am going to meet with my lawyer this week and see if the agreement can be challenged in court. We have built a life together, I gave him 5 of the best years of my life and I've been 100% faithful to him - I don't fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.

No sense of honor, of decency, of Justice.
The Female ID open for all to see.

Tarnsman4Life · 2015-03-23T23:49:06+00:00

Serious AWALT moment here

He said he'd pay off the remainder of my student loans, which he isn't "legally obligated" to do. While I appreciate that, I am going to meet with my lawyer this week and see if the agreement can be challenged in court.

exit_sandman · 2015-03-24T08:29:14+00:00

This is the beta's way of coping with reality. Examples of women behaving badly? Must be a RedPill troll! Such an easy explanation for every bit of evidence that we manage to throw at them.

To be honest, I too think that was a trolling thread - the whole thing is 100% undiluted redpill porn. And while scenarios like that take place in real life, considering how tight it fits the script and considering the clandestine rp/bp-war on reddit regarding dating matters, I think it's far more likely that we have a RP troll on our hands.

However, what is real about the whole thing are the reactions. Stories like that, true or not, are always a nice seismograph when it comes to gauging the opinion of the reddit public.

coolgiraffe · 2015-03-23T19:18:02+00:00

So sorry guys but, can anyone fill me up about what she did in the past?

I went to the OP and she deleted the post.

putsch80 · 2015-03-23T19:40:27+00:00

Most of the comments in the thread are reasonable... What is happening in /r/relationships?

2015-03-23T20:13:26+00:00

Top bloke, good for him, shame he had to waste this much of his life on her

Ojisan1 · 2015-03-23T20:30:56+00:00

I love this update, thanks for the heads up, however one FTFY:

2) GET A FUCKING prenup. If you absolutely must get married (which is a terrible idea according to most established RedPillers here)... if you absolutely must tie yourself down legally and financially... have a backup plan. DON'T GET FUCKING MARRIED.

2015-03-23T22:51:25+00:00

No way a real woman manages to fit every one of their sick stereotypes.

haha, happens all the time, mate.

ArtistBlock · 2015-03-24T01:03:45+00:00

Does anyone here mange to save the original post? I wanted to read it from the beginning but it was removed.

watersign · 2015-03-24T06:45:19+00:00

shes just mad she knows shes being discarded. This guys wife is probably extremely mad but he has his businesses to run and uh..he isnt gonna let his empire go to some god damn whore. good for him!

He dodged a major bullet, IMO because after they had kids she would be very likely to stray. He's in his prime and has money..whyy should he settle for someone like her?

It's gotta be pretty damn funny to see this girl in person, because she's the type we all know. From the time she was 14 until she got married in her late 20s all the betas and guys gave her a ton of attention. Now those looks are running out and she has no where to go except to try and find another loser to put up with her.

dashiz86 · 2015-03-25T06:33:25+00:00

Thats a difficult one. Im sure most guys would jump at the chance to smash some bird no string attached..but its sucks for the poor sod that marries her. She shouldve told him. He did the right thing.

Ex-AlodianKnight · 2015-03-25T14:21:57+00:00

Sounds nice. But I like how being non-emotional helps.

cover20 · 2015-03-27T03:58:52+00:00

I remember the thread. I even thought I commented on it, though I can't find my username in a word search. Fun thread.

She was careful to say that she cut off the female friend who clued him in and no longer considers her a friend. Whatever, he'll soon be free of her drama.

Betterthanuatlife · 2015-04-16T07:01:11+00:00

Lol if betas can't start handling reality soon then reality is going to eat them alive.

fufubunnyfufu · 2015-04-24T01:07:10+00:00

Not sharing every single sexual encounter you had before dating a person isn't lying or hiding something lolol

WS6Grumbles · 2015-04-26T18:30:53+00:00

I for one can understand, even if she hadn't lied about being a virgin (which she probably did not). For me sex is still a pretty personal connection and the fact you can have two dicks jammed up in ya at once tells me that the emotion involved for you is about equal to that of maybe peeling a potato or something.

I'm not saying I'm right or she's a slut, just saying that for me, this would be a legit grounds to tell her to gtfo. I'm not interested in someone I can't share an important connection with. Sex ain't everything but it's def a significant part of the package.

tuxedoburrito · 2015-04-30T19:41:23+00:00

I love how almost all the comments are in support of the husband and a few people are freaking out.

If everyone is telling you you're wrong, you might want to reevaluate your self opinion rather than try to find more people who just agree with you, miss.

2015-03-23T16:28:26+00:00

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this was actually a troll post, considering how perfect it is.

But if it's real, good on the guy for being a rock through this and not letting emotions get the best of him.

Rhunta · 2015-03-23T15:34:48+00:00

As someone that want to be a christian leader, I really want to marry. Lucky from me I don't live in America, so I don't have to extreme laws against me. But getting a prenup is a must if you are going to marry.

Johnny10toes · 2015-03-23T17:15:38+00:00

She wanted him to act beta so she could play a victim. She'd have felt justified.

Purecorrupt · 2015-03-23T18:29:02+00:00

I can relate to the "feeling like I" be been conned". Not in a relationship persay, but in general. It makes you put things in perspective which is probably why he was able to explain things with stoicism and "seemed" unaffected.

Sesa_Refum · 2015-03-23T17:16:08+00:00

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BowlOfCandy · 2015-03-23T19:42:17+00:00

did she delete the initial thread?

ucfgavin · 2015-03-24T05:24:28+00:00

Ehhh, even if its true, it doesn't sound like any of it was recent or while they were together. Of course the lying is silly, but thats a long time ago. If anything, he probably could have worked it into a three way for himself.

gargarisma · 2015-03-24T06:05:33+00:00

Nothing I could do or say could convince him that these were past mistakes and not reflective of who I am today.

That's the thing with people like this. They make big "mistakes", never tell you about it, then act like you're in the wrong when you find out and get pissed. A girl like this is a different girl yesterday, a different girl today and a different girl tomorrow. That's why assessing the past is important, folks.

badhobbit · 2015-03-24T06:43:27+00:00

Insecurities and standards are two very different things, and I think you all are confusing the two.

FishFoxFerret · 2015-03-24T06:46:43+00:00

Remember that post about a law about rape through deceit.

How is this any different other than the sexes being switched? She lied to him about being a virgin, and manipulated him.

CastratedBetaOrbiter · 2015-03-24T07:51:17+00:00

I want to believe this is a real story, and that she'll get what she deserves, but it reads too perfectly. Probably a troll.

MustardLordXVII · 2015-03-24T09:32:22+00:00

Title is clickbait as hell, please rectify

maddox45 · 2015-06-10T17:20:11+00:00

Ha, the rewards of whoring. Now she's wanting to challenge the prenup, I hope he withdraws from paying her student loans. This whore is getting exactly what she deserves.

Amznaznsensation · 2015-03-23T22:17:41+00:00

Feels odd. Can't say I agree with guy 100% cause he sounds like an insurance company who is claiming preexisting condition and bouncing out.

2015-03-23T16:50:40+00:00

I'm definitely a proponent of the prenup. A lot of people in the manosphere bash marriage almost exclusively because of divorce rape. Where allowed by law a prenup should mostly shield you from total devastation.

Even if I'm poor as hell as an adult (probably won't be) I'm still having one drafted.

Newdist2 · 2015-03-23T17:26:51+00:00

I think there's a strong chance this is a work of fiction. It's a little too good.

EDIT: The original thread has had the shit purged out of it by the mods of that sub. Only "sex-positive" posts remain.

Spitfire6 · 2015-03-23T22:58:43+00:00

This in original post and every word was true, but using "well played" was wrong, iv spotted and called out 2 troll double accounts associated with a trollX account who has admitted to over 10 thousand accounts.

the point is, if we can keep this serious and not use certain key lines, this would allow, atleast ME to call out, report and handle trolls who want to go out of their way to influence the fatherless young men into dismay.

Thank you everybody and thank you OP for taking the time to provide some form of education for the vulnerable.

of-maus-and-men · 2015-03-23T21:56:22+00:00

To be honest, there is no right or wrong answer in handling the situation.

The woman sounded like she had a motive for staying together beyond just love for her husband (soon-to-be ex). Putting that aside, she shouldn't be judged for what she did in the past. Was she allowed to have her one secret? Sure. Does that necessitate her staying with her husband forever and ever? Not necessarily.

But at the end of the day, we're all human. We are bound to experience different kinds of emotions and react in different ways when things are presented to us.

The husband just heard that his wife was sexually promiscuous as a young adult. If he stayed with her, I wouldn't go far as to say "OH MAN HE IS SO STUPID. SHE IS A TOTAL SLUT AND A LIAR. HE IS A TOTAL CHUMP. HE COULD HAVE SO MUCH PUSSY IN THIS WORLD AND NOT SOME USED UP SLUT." I see it as he overlooks her flaws despite her hiding it from him because ultimately he's focused on the present and not the past. What she has done in the past is not necessarily indicative of who she is now. It could be, but it isn't always. It's sort of the same situation between Forrest Gump and Jenny. Everytime I watch the movie, I do get angry at Forrest for trying to get with Jenny despite the fact that she treats him like shit. But we're all human and in Forrest's case he just cant help but have feelings for Jenny and sticking with her through thick and thin. Doesn't really make him a bluepill-er or a loser. That's all subjective.

On the flip side, the husband doesn't need to stay with the wife. Why does he have to fix the marriage. He came into the marriage with expectations about who his wife was and who she would be. Should he have put her on the pedestal and thought she was essentially an angel? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on what was conveyed to him during the relationship. At the end of the day, he felt human and couldn't come to terms with the information about the threesome. That's fine and just part of the normal human experience. He doesn't owe his wife anything.

Regardless of whether we all think the woman is a bitch, that women should not sleep around, etc etc etc, everyone has a different human experience. To be honest, it's going to be pretty damn hard who fits your idealistic scenario. Some people have to compromise on certain qualities if they want to get married. If they dont want to compromise, then just keep dating and become a bachelor.

I like the phrase "don't get married." People shouldn't necessarily follow that advice, but they should understand its good advice if you dont know what the hell it is that you are doing.

The better and more complete advice is: "Don't get married (unless you know 100% the pros and cons as well as any hypothetical scenarios that could arise and are prepared to deal with it all)"

tl;dr rant

bradbrookequincy · 2015-03-23T19:06:24+00:00

Im not sure I agree with this one. Past sexual exploration is not something people need to share. Especially from college. It doesnt appear he asked and lied. Your in a successful marriage and you wanna blow it up. I think the dude is being a big fucking baby.

saibot83 · 2015-03-23T18:38:46+00:00

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ghee99 · 2015-03-24T04:49:08+00:00

I see this sort of story A LOT lately,

and to some degree, I'm starting to blame the guy.

First of all, if you are a guy, you're a fool to think that there is some sort of perfect virgin (or near-virgin) out there.

some "pure ideal female" that didn't discover (or even truly desire) sex until you came along.

As a guy, you're better off assuming that any women will have been a slut in the past (and if she wasn't, it was only due to lack of opportunity or lack of a guy in her life who would lead her into some wild slutty sexual adventures)

Basically, there are only two types of women, those who have been sluts, and those who just were not exposed to an opportunity, or a powerful enough man to bring out her inner slut.

If you are a man that can not bring out a woman's inner-slut, and you marry one who's never been exposed to a guy who could, then sure... she might never know the difference. but that hardly makes her more pure, it just means that a part of her, her deepest sexual being, is asleep, and she's not been in the situation that can awaken her inner-slut ....yet.

If anything, a woman who's never had her inner-slut awakened is a ticking time bomb.

on the other hand, if you are a guy who can not awaken a woman's inner-slut, and you wind up with a woman who has been with guys who can, then she'll find you lacking, but might stick with you for other reasons.

but, if you are one of those guys (the guys who can not awaken a women's inner slut) then thats hardly her fault for having been with a guy who could.

sure, she might have lied to you about that, but if you think about it, SHE REALLY HAD NO CHOICE!

you see, women know that guys who can not awaken her inner-slut will never understand how she really couldn't help herself when she was around such a guy. And teaching a guy to be the sort of a guy that CAN awaken her inner-slut is not something that a woman can teach a man (if they could teach that, they would).

a woman biologically can't help but give herself fully to some guy who can awaken her inner-slut, and she knows that, and (in many ways) she could not control herself. Being a woman, she also knows that guys who do not have the power, will never understand, and she also knows if she shares the deep sexual effect that guys like that have on her, to a regular guy who can't awaken her inner-slut, then that guy will just get all distant, moody, pouty, and feel bad about himself, or be angry/needy.

So its a dilemma for women, they can't make you into the kind of guy that awakens their inner-slut, and if they tell you about the guys who can it will only make most guys even less of that sort of man. If she even mentions such things he'll start asking, "but what did those guys have that I don't?"

and quite simply, the woman doesn't know, she just KNOWS the way they made her FEEL, and she knows that the "regular guy" doesn't make her feel that way.

So, sure, technically she "lied" in not telling the regular guy about her past. And maybe she even convinced herself that she could settle for a guy who doesn't have that effect on her, Heck, maybe she was even giving it her best shot! But to be mad at her for no other reason that she is a woman who responded biologically to cues that resonated within her, and felt things that she can't help, and responded to evolutionary triggers that are quite simply part of her DNA, is foolish! If you really want to lay blame, its the guy who can't bring out a woman's inner-slut that's to blame.

Of course, really no one is to blame, the woman was just being a woman, as if she had any other choice (she might have even been trying to be his version of an ideal woman, as opposed to who she truly was)

and the guy was just being a regular guy, and acting in a way that best suited him in his life thus far, until it came to affairs of the heart, He was just being a regular, good guy, following a script that had been given to him, and acting in a way that probably works quite well in other areas of his life. But if what he wants is loyalty, and true passion from a woman, then he'll need to do more than just that.

Until he can do that, no woman that he is with (whether she be an admitted slut, or a snow white virgin) will ever feel those feelings of passion and abandon that Alpha types can cause her to feel.

Sure, I guess (in a guy like this' mind) he could be with a woman that suppress her deepest sexual desires, just to appease him, and make him feel desired (even if the desire he arouses in her is only average), but then again, he's just making himself even weaker as a man, as its a woman's actions or pretend opinion of him, that define whether or not he feels desired.

So, as I said... Its really the guy's fault in so many ways.

He's made assumptions about a woman that he's married (assumptions that go against the very nature of any woman)

so, by willingly choosing to live in an imaginary reality (one where his average-ness is enough to link a woman to him, against her very nature, in his own self-created fairy tale) he really can't blame anyone but himself.

I mean, you can have a pet snake, and pretend that snake loves you because you feed it mice every day, but if that snakes bits you, its not personal, its just a snake being a snake.

I'm not saying women and snakes are the same, but a woman (like a man, or any other animal) will respond to its own biology over the veneer of social norms every time, and just laying some superficial precepts (like "true love", or marriage, til-death-do-us-part, etc) on top of 100,000 years of evolution, and a deeper core being, will never work.

p.s. Just to be clear, I am not against sluts in ANY way, in fact I LOVE sluts! A slut is just a woman with her sexual switch turned on. I'd much rather be with a woman who has her switch turned on, than a woman who's only had it in the off position.
Besides, a "slut" is often used as an insult amongst women, as the implication is that a slut will have sex with both alpha and "regular" guys, and that is true. but put a slut around an alpha male, and that sexuality (as its ALREADY in the on position) will go through the roof.

Granted, (most) any woman can be turned into a slut, or at least your own personal slut (which is different that a woman who has agreed to "just have sex with you" only out of some sort of obligation or contractual agreement such as marriage or a relationship). So, knowing how to turn on a woman's slut-switch (or turn up to a 10 a slut-switch thats already on) is going to be a much better way to ensure her compliance then a secondary "skill" such as being able to give her a diamond, and promise to provide for her for life.

And not only is being able to bring out a woman's inner-slut a better skill for you to have to make yourself happy, it will make any woman you are with happier as well.

So fuck these whiny dudes who complain that their illusion of a "pure woman" was shattered. In fact, these women didn't fuck them over, they did them what could be the greatest favor of their lives. They let them know that their average, devoted, providing ways are NOT what it really takes to make a woman love/desire you.

If they are wise, they will thank this woman for waking them up, and they will use it as the motivation to shed their delusional ways.

And the first delusional belief most guys can shed is that (generally speaking) there is no "for life" with women, there is only "the now". And as men, we can learn from that. Women have much to offer us, and recognizing these differences, and learning to be in the now with a woman is no small gift that they give us (if we are willing to shed our delusions, or thoughts on how they "should be"). We don't need to give up even one bit of our "man-ness" but by embracing them as they actually are (and not our fantasy of how we wish them to be, or falsely have imagined them to be) we can become whole with them. This idea of a "pure woman" that loves us no matter what, is some shit that men made up, it comes from our mind, but we need to learn/remember that its not real. After we've shed this false idea, an idea created in the minds of men, then we can move forward in the real world as it actually is (not as we so often childishly wish it were). To start, ee have to be the men, first, and then (and only then) can their woman-ness have any value to us, or them.

Giving their "woman-ness" contrast, and balancing it with our full "man-ness" unlocks their sexuality, and allows them to feel everything, all at once.

Don't try to make your woman act like a man (as guys like this whiny about, saying she didn't act "honorable" LIKE A MAN WOULD) To hell with that, if I wanted someone who was a man I'd fuck a man. Let her be a woman, learn from her, and lead her as she seeks to be lead (as that is her womanly desire)

bleed-red · 2015-03-23T15:31:11+00:00

If this is real, someone get this post to the guy who needs this information.

I would but I'm too DT to care.

2015-03-23T17:51:03+00:00

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nefuratios · 2015-03-23T17:34:52+00:00

To be fair I was taking her side until she mentioned she'd challenge the prenup. That was a cunt move. Anyway, I don't see the point of telling your spouse every single detail of your past life. Is that a thing now, like making a list of all the people you slept with including all the positions you did, sex toys used, number of participants, etc. and presenting it to your partner before you get married?

Unpopular_But_Right · 2015-03-24T05:01:19+00:00

I think it's at least possible that it's a very, very well-written and concealed troll post. I had that thought flash through my head while reading it as well. It's certainly a fascinating story with a moral lesson to learn.

My girlfriend has also had threesomes in her past (MFF), but it doesn't bother me and she was upfront about it, and has told me about her sexual history. However, if I only found out today after a year and a half of dating, I would drop her.

MajorMid · 2015-03-24T06:10:40+00:00

Loved the part where he is going to generously pay off her student loans and she's going to talk to a lawyer to challenge the prenup to get more. Lol.

cover20 · 2015-03-24T11:06:34+00:00

Praise the man, but don't bash the woman. This guy deserves respect for sticking to his principles calmly and consistently. Not to mention his generosity for paying the loans.

On the other hand, if you want to call this woman a slut for having MMFs, fine, but you sound like a fucking Puritan to me. All women got fucked before they met you. Some of them did dirty, disgusting, things. Hell, I ran train on a girl once, but I wouldn't feel the need to tell any girls. Don't throw stones from your glass house.

You could be just as RP in this situation if you didn't give a fuck about her past.