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I've observed this for a while now. Living in Scandinavia, being 5'9" may seem like a curse at first glance. Almost every man towers over me and most of my friends are 6'1"-6'3" - but I still get laid more than them. This does something interesting for me. I get to put my confidence on display.

Every girl I've ever met has hit me with the "You're kind of short" shit test. I've heard it in all its various shapes and forms. I stand on a platform - "Well now you're almost as tall as me", even though the girl is almost a full head below me.

This happens the more I exude confidence and charm. Honestly now, I haven't thought about my height negatively in years. I don't even have to view it as a shit-test to be passed because it genuinely doesn't bother me.

These height-tests have gotten so prevalent lately that whenever I hear them, I know she's down to fuck because my responses are always a display of confidence.

Whenever they come in abundance. I know she wants to fuck. She just wants me to pass her tests first. This is one of the few TRP truths I truly believe in. It's the one I've encountered first hand most.

FR: Last Friday I hooked up with this girl with whom I'd wanted to fuck for 10 months. No, not a oneitis. We'd been on and off on Snapchat with months of radio silence. We met for the first time last summer at a mutual friend's party where she'd said she loves tall guys and wouldn't have sex with a short dude.

Fast forward to a month ago from now, I run into her at a shopping mall, but I wasn't sure if it was her. I text her "Is that your fat ass at X". I get a response when I'm on my way home, we text some more, she has a boyfriend apparently.

Two weeks later I see her on Tinder, they've broken up. I don't mention it, though. I hit her with the good old KennyTRP corn-charm. I write stupid and corny shit on purpose (no, really, this is a 10/10 strategy that's always worked for me) such as innuendos like "I drink coffee with a purpose. I make sure to lick the rim of the cup too." and "Sit on my face so I can eat my way to your heart". She's Colombian, so don't doubt that I told her I wanted to snort cocaine from her arm-pit. In front of my friends. Everyone laughed, her included.

She's always found me sort of corny in this sense and has been reluctant to meet me. But the cornier I became while simultaneously setting up logistics, the more down to fuck she got.

We meet two days later. I keep being cheesy IRL. It works well with a sly smile and an obviously intentionally corny delivery. I put a bag of peanuts in her face and ask her if she wants nuts in her face tonight. She punches my arm and says "stop it" while giggling.

Cue shit-tests. I probably got 15 variations of "You're short". I deflect them and keep escalating physically and verbally.

We hit my place. I fuck her. She's happy. I'm satisfied. She stays the night. Come morning, she keeps calling me corny while touching my arm. I stay corny and 5'9".


[–]TheRedStoic160 points161 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

This works very well yes. The underlying truth to this is one a lot of guys miss.

Shit testing means she's interested.

That's it, that's all there is to it, if she's not interested, she wouldn't even notice you. If she's focusing on you and shit testing, she's literally giving you a test drive. "Will this car/man really perform like I think? Will it quit road side? Can it really escalate properly?"

You don't think about the ones on the lot you don't like, only the ones you're considering. Same with women.

Even if you're in the rare case where she's not interested, assume she is anyway. The worst that will happen is you move to the next one.

[–]menial_optimist19 points20 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I can't ever tell the difference between a test and legitimate dismissal.

[–]SpeakerToRedditors points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I've found Tests are dismissive, while dismissals are very "nice" and careful not to hurt your feelings.

[–]1empatheticapathetic20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, great observation. Saving this.

[–]kennytrp[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is it.

I've always thought of shit-tests this way. Would she ever walk up to a genuinely fat person and say "Damn you're fat"? No. That's straight up rude and everyone would think she's a bitch. It's not rude if she does it to someone she finds attractive is her logic.

[–]2awalt_cupcake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If tests are dismissive and dismissal are spoken nicely, whats honest disrespect? Does it sound like a genuine remark? I have a hard time with that one.

[–]newName5434560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Either dismissive or cheeky.

[–]slutty_time_traveler10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The biggest thing is attention. If she's going out of her way to test you, you're in the forefront of her mind. If she's deflecting you and distancing herself without engaging you, move on.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Upwards inflection in her shit test.

Questions imply conversation. Statements don't.

[–]TheRedStoic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I myself prefer investigative statements. I'd imagine you do too.

Just an example, but yeah, inflection and tone are next step, but I couldn't write on it here and be relevant, and I'm sure someone can do a better job. "Hint Mr endorsed hint."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Plates a bit full, but thanks

[–]SpeakerToRedditors points points [recovered] | Copy Link

They are interviewing potential candidates for a filling. If you didn't get an interview(shit test) you are not a contender for the position. Likewise If you are in a LTR you are getting shitt test you are getting a performance review.

[–]TheRedStoic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

On the money. Nice way of saying it. Thx. I may use that in the future.

[–]sadbasturd992 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

My whole life I thought women hated me. Maybe they were shit testing me ? And the fact that I failed the shit tests, what does it say about me as a man ? Than I am somehow unworthy ?

[–]mushroom_overlord4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a sign you need to work on yourself. If you get down in the dumps about it you are doomed to fail, but if you just think about it as learning, you can become "worthy" to women.

[–]1empatheticapathetic4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is you have probably passed numerous shit tests with girls you couldn't give a fuck about but didn't pursue. That's the difference.

[–]sadbasturd991 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think I did too, but didn't know. And they got fucking pissed at me and I had no idea why. You seem to have really good insight.

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah i've done it a bunch also. 100% of the time actually.

Thanks. I would like to cash that compliment in for exactly one lay.

[–]TheRedStoic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's in the past. Don't beat yourself up about it, learn from it and make changes. Yeah you were unworthy. So change it.

Can't fight ghosts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this. And if you conquer them then they are all yours

It's very similar to that tired but true notion that the opposite of attractiveness isn't unattractivenees, but indifference. As in if a woman is yelling or arguing or angry with you then you are much more closer to being inside her panties than if she is indifferent towards you

[–]Wissenschaft85316 points317 points  (68 children) | Copy Link

And that gents is what women mean when they say they "want a funny guy." Take notes.

[–]j4c0p402 points403 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

they don't find funny guys sexy.
they find sexy guys funny.

[–]WolfofAnarchy points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You're a modern day philosopher

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As is everyone else who's posted that on here

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn I never realized it before but I must be pretty sexy.

[–]dafckingman6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Wise words there my friend.

[–]wasabichilifireworks14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is extremely true though. If you are good looking, many times girls will laugh even if your material is complete shit.

I'm pretty average looking, but funny. Sometimes girls will interrupt me mid-sentence to talk to a hotter guy and laugh at whatever mindless BS is coming out of his mouth.

I'm not bitter about it at all. I have my own ways of bagging hotties. But it's so so true.

[–]johnnyfirs10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

People who say they are funny often aren't.

[–]Asmodeus04-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is so stupid it made my teeth hurt.

[–]mgbkurtz21 points22 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Being funny is a sign of intelligence. This guy seems like he has it.

[–]AnkitIndia30 points31 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I have 4.0 GPA and am unfunny as fuck

[–]good_guy_submitter3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

yeah but women are terrible judges of anything.

[–]SultanOfHops2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

But I bet you believe they're expert beta judgers, so which is it?

[–]good_guy_submitter9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

No, I don't think they are.

Women can only judge if you give them tingles or not.

Alpha/beta only matters in comparing yourself to other men. Women have no conception of alpha/beta because that does not exist for women. Hen pecking order is what they have and it is not the same. The rooster doesn't care which hen is the top hen, he fucks them all.

They don't know why they get the tingles, they just do. Does the fish know why it bites the shiny lure with the hook? It just feels compelled to.

But we know. We know exactly why.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying that women can't judge why they're attracted to guys?

Lmao

[–]good_guy_submitter points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Correct. More or less. Unless you're rocking a 6 pack and a male model face, they really can't explain it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nonsense

Women aren't retarded. They know why they like the guys they like.

[–]IncelNoMore0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Academic intelligence is one thing, I think for being funny it's more about emotional and social dynamics intelligence

[–]Wissenschaft850 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being funny is a sign that your not afraid to be offensive, to be foolish, to do whats not expected. Its a mans shit test. If she can't take a joke, thats your sign to go.

[–]zephyrprime8 points9 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

Someone explain this joke to me "I drink coffee with a purpose. I make sure to lick the rim of the cup too.". It's an allusion to anal rimming but it just isn't funny. Am I missing something?

[–]1empatheticapathetic24 points25 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

No offense to OP but jokes like that are just too lowbrow for someone like me. I pride myself on having a witty sense of humour, but jokes like that to me are just cringey and i can't bring myself to think in that style.

Although OP's post is about confidence, the point is that OP is confident enough in himself to deliver such a joke, and the confidence behind it is what creates the attraction for her to laugh. Obviously her finding that funny in the first place is important, but a chick with a different sense of humour would do a fake laugh if she was actually attracted to OP in the first place.

[–]Monsignor_Swole points points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

[–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. A girl once told me about a guy who worked with her at the mall. She couldn't get over how funny he was.

"omg lol so he came up to me and asked me 'if you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?' Isn't that hilarious?? lol"

That was in 2004, and I still remember that shit. "If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?"

I spent a very long period of time trying to understand why the hell that was funny. But the answer is that it has nothing to do with the words; it's the presentation and the person presenting it.

And yes, he did end up fucking her shortly thereafter.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why people never give a red pill formula of what to say, it isn't about what you say. You have to put in the work first (get in shape, groom yourself properly, dress well, approach, get rejected, approach again, develop confidence, get a better understanding of what women find attractive, learn to escalate), then you figure out that what you say doesn't really matter. All that matters is that you create attraction and lead the conversation toward the outcome you want.

[–]KarmaEnthusiast1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, I've started with lines that if I wrote here would basically sound autistic. I've asked girls where the toilets are since I need to take a "huuuge shit" just as an opener. It's the confidence behind it. In fact the less normal and out there thing you say is usually better in that scenario, as long as you hold frame.

[–]cashmoney_x1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He was just trying to implant the idea of blowjobs in her mind.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Dry dick intellectuals are the best intellectuals.

That cringe isn't cringe at the joke. It's you reading something, sans body language and frame, and protecting your ego by saying shit that gets him laid isn't worth it for you.

Of course, if you get in a girls pants by quoting Faust jokes, I'll concede that 'pedant game' is a thing

[–]kennytrp[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The thing is. Even if I were to say something that doesn't get a laugh or even a smile, I manage to play it off by saying "That was hilarious in my head" and then acting awkward on purpose by shrugging or rolling my eyes or some such. That almost always makes people chuckle. You know why? Because I don't really give a fuck whether or not they think I'm funny. Hell, I laugh at my own jokes more than anyone.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ive noticed that dane cook is a great comic for women.

Says nothing funny, but delivers it well, so they laugh. Women dont care about the words

[–]kennytrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, they don't. Laughter is powerful. Nobody is sad mid-laugh. Everyone wants to laugh and have fun. Make her laugh, make her wet. Just don't go overboard with it. Having normal conversations is also cool.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

His target audience is women, no doubt. I can't stand his stand-up. His role in Waiting... was hilarious.

[–]1empatheticapathetic4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

He's more confident than me to say something without giving a fuck how it goes down. That's something i'm working on. I just appreciate a good joke and wouldn't naturally say something like that, don't mean to shame the dude. His results speak for themselves.

My jokes have gotten me onto many girls radars but i've fucked up the rest of the interaction 100% of the time due to lack of further intuition/experience.

[–]kennytrp[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's just my shtick. I find cringe/deadpan humor to be hilarious with the right delivery, hence why I binge-watched Parks and Rec and split my sides laughing at Ron Swanson's antics. You don't have to be Dave Chappelle to get women to laugh.

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm just a huge stand up fan, so it's a big deal to me. And it generally works, it's something i know i can rely on/have confidence in. Just working on everything else now. And yeah i've binge watched countless sitcoms in my earlier years while guys were out getting laid.

[–]kennytrp[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly, I never really needed TRP to get laid, I came here after observing the shift in women's attitudes between me treating them like shit vs being nice. I found the middle ground to be the most effective. What I've learned over the years can be boiled down to "Be calm and don't worry. Keep eye contact. Make her laugh. Kino."

All of these things are a product of an inner calm and rock-solid confidence.

[–]dafckingman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My jokes have gotten me onto many girls radars but i've fucked up the rest of the interaction 100% of the time due to lack of further intuition/experience.

Story of my life up till now. Fuck.

[–]1empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there's no excuse to not know the dance now, so no big deal. We're gonna make it bruh.

Conversely I have a friend who is really good looking but bluepill and has no game. He hardly does great at all.

An active blue pill frame will kill any attraction a girl has for you, looks or otherwise.

[–]zephyrprime-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not even it. For most guys, saying retarded stuff makes them feel better and more confident about themselves. If they suddenly had something clever to say instead something retarded, they would be pleased with saying it but gain no where the level of boisterous energy they get from saying something retarded.

Is the world really populated by watered down versions of beavis and butthead?

There seem to be two types of people - people who think dumb jokes are funny and value acting retarded and people who think dumb jokes are stupid and negatively value acting retarded. It's not just about confidence although I certainly won't deny that confidence makes any man more attractive.

When neurotypical people tell their dumb jokes, their self esteem is momentarily boosted and their spirits are momentarily lifted. If someone tells a smart joke, they don't get the same level of psychological boost - they only get a small boost. It's as though neurotypical people wish the world really was a place where dumb things and low performance could happen and you could still be a winner (not just merely survive) and whenever they goof around in social settings with their dumb banter, they're actualizing a little bit of that world they wish existed.

[–]spirot points points [recovered] | Copy Link

you sound like a bitter autist

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I really have no idea what your point is but I don't agree. I have sent girls into laughing fits and I can see the attraction skyrocket, I just never knew what to do after that. I don't think the dumb jokes work as well but they do signify a lot more confidence.

I personally wouldn't have any confidence behind executing what I think would be a dumb joke so it's pointless me even thinking about it, it's not who I am and not where my confidence lies.

[–]zephyrprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My whole point was that you're not neurotypical.

[–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol "too low brow"! Fuck that guy.

[–]ThePantsThief1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, you can say dumb shit like OP cited and everyone will laugh if you're charismatic enough. Lucky bastard.

[–]Diplomatt_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ol pee in your butt Mark Manson theory. Not my style either but works for people.

[–]throw174531 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't need to be funny - it's suggestively sexual, and clearly meant to be.

If she's attracted she'll find it funny because of him, and the attitude conveyed in it's delivery - not because of the innate brilliance of the joke itself.

[–]cashmoney_x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's an awfully constructed "joke" but she's dumb enough to have laughed.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Yes

It works well IME and is much easier than say lifting haha

[–]TheRedStoic30 points31 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

True. Ideally you should do both! Even more success and you'll be healthier too.

[–]mancozbi46 points47 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

Great post. Really interesting. Please, please share with us your top 10 replies to "you're short". Oh, I'm 5"7 (on a good day).

[–]pm_your_nudes_women21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wondering why there was zero answers to that question in OP's post...

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree and escalate. Never be defensive or try to deflect, downplay, whatever. Own it and show that you're not at all embarrassed of it. She's taking cues from you, and if you're embarrassed of it, then that's pretty fucking nasty in her eyes. But if you completely own it while maintaining your attractive and aloof/cocky/funny demeanor (whatever you prefer) then she'll follow your cue and learn that it's no big deal.

Don't try to memorize responses or replies to shit tests, that's PUA shit and it's weak. It works, sure, but you have to cast a veeeery wide net. It's much better to learn the principles and mechanics behind how and why this shit works. Also be aware that no matter how well you play your cards, you'll never have a 100% success rate. Be aware of that beforehand so you know better than to worry about striking out. It happens even to 10/10 men on occasion.

[–]Wolffy935 points6 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

...I'm extremely curious as to what guys 5'7" etc say to things like "you're short"

@ 5'0", on a Good day, I usually just flip it back on them or say something making it known that there comment is ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just say "oh thanks, I didn't notice"

Sarcasm is the best response always. Or ignoring

[–]Wolffy930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup yup

Just was curious as to what the response would be from a guy say 5'7" (I'd give a LOT to be that "short")

[–]pollodustino8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Hey, that explains the low winds and enjoyable temperatures!"

[–]Shirye4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"You're short"

But my dick tawlll bihhh

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just say "oh thanks, I didn't notice"

Sarcasm is the best response always. Or ignoring

[–]alanthemanofchicago1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've wondered (5'2 here).

I really haven't gotten that too much (and I'm not sure where people live that they do) but my responses are generally dismissive - Keen eye, detective/a deadpan "Yes, I am" or occasionally act like I had no idea, all incredulous and shit

[–]Wolffy930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I always just A&A to a laughable extent

Always reply with either some funny or sometimes just outright ignore the comment.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just say "oh thanks, I didn't notice"

Sarcasm is the best response always. Or ignoring

[–]Hikage-best-knaifu2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How the hell did you manage to post 9 times?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i think it wasnt posting. or so i thought. so i just kept on clicking save

[–]sd2001 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

"You're short"

"That's ok, I'm pretty used to it by now and it doesn't bother me. Just like you don't let your {big nose|flat ass|lazy eye|whatever} bother you."

[–]kennytrp[S] 28 points29 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"You're short"

"Well, you're a whore so I guess we're both worthless. Let's fuck and make slutty gnome-babies."

[–]ThePantsThief18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You must be really charismatic, I could never get away with that

[–]eatinrice10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"You're short"

"Its convienent, I can eat you out standing up"

[–]1empatheticapathetic9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't you read? All you have to do is stand on a platform and say "you're shorter than me now! lolz"

[–]DotishGuy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"you're short"

"yea but my head is closer to your boobs, Win-win "

[–]kennytrp[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly, I don't think too much of it. Sometimes, just changing the subject is enough. I'm not a huge fan of the ones I see posted here most of the time.

I've actually used "Fuck, I was going to say something about my dick being huge but eh" and I look down and shrug my shoulders. There are lots, though. Just make sure it's a funny response and you'll be alright. Shit-tests are great for displaying humor because you can flip it into something hilarious as you deflect it.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This depends a lot on the culture. If people are more prudish, politically correct, emasculated etc, it will work. If the culture is more open minded and openly sexual you'll come off as a sleazy fuck more often than not. For example, dick jokes could work great with japanesse girls because they blush instantly just because you said 'penis'. German or Eastern European girls, not so much.

[–]Nerian9930 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. You've got it covered. Well played. If she wasn't interested, she wouldn't even be teasing you about it. Girls for whom height is a deal breaker, would be gone. And girls who usually don't like it, point it out because they are paradoxically into you, and they can't understand why, so they have to blurt it out.

[–]1Sir_Distic26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm 5'6". I can't do anything about my height. I haven't given a shit about it since elementary school.

Neither should you.

"We're both the same height laying down." Is a good one too.

[–]omega_dawg939 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i take it a step further...

"i get taller when I'm laying down..."

[–]pandaholic232 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Same here. Got anymore comebacks like that?

[–]imn0tg00d43 points44 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I read this in Aziz Ansari's voice. Not sure why.

[–]thedaynos3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

dude. tell semi funny stories in an aziz voice if you can and all of a sudden they're VERY FUNNY stories and you're a hit

[–]Protostorm2164 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Pathetic. I really think he's this generations Dane Cook. But whatever works dog.

[–]thedaynos0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

lmao man fuck a dane cook. aziz's early stuff is golden. i used to make sure to see him when he came to my town. but i admit i haven't enjoyed his last few specials.

[–]Protostorm2162 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He did a really good job making me dislike him on Scrubs 10ish years ago. It was what the character aimed for, so maybe he's just great. I honestly turn shows off when I see he's involved for longer than a scene. Any specific bit you think is good though? I'll give him a shot.

[–]thedaynos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

his early stuff you can find on youtube. he did this character raaaaaaaandy with 8 a's. also some skits about him hanging with a fake justin beiber, before beiber was really super famous. that's really the aziz i love. that era. recently he's gotten to me more SJWey and just not feeling his shit.

[–]zezosk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because he's short and corny. Love that guy!

[–]tropzumuch14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Great post. One question: do girls know they are shit testing or do they do it unconsciously?

[–]ziggmuff14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd say 99% of the time they don't know.

Women are great for knowing/being aware of what they're doing, I don't think they're very good at figuring out why they're doing it .

[–]Frdl13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit tests are real doubts they have about you. But they are just uncertainties. If they were certain they didn't find you attractive, they wouldn't shit test because they wouldn't give a fuck. It's an invitation to prove them wrong because there is some interest; they are testing your mettle to see if you are for real. This is definitely done on both a conscious and unconscious level.

[–]Teh_Shakes2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Interesting, I've never really put any thought into it and just thought it was the girl programming taking over. Like: "I want him, I'm gonna go talk to him begining shit test..."

[–]tropzumuch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha that's what I thought, but every girl that was ever interested in me, shit tested me. Im realizing it now. Thanks TRP!

[–]Cesare_MA points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I think it's very similar to you liking a dude (in a non homo way) and giving him a lot of shit because of that. You're just kinda interested in seeing how he'll respond and having some good banter.

[–]tropzumuch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No I had to deal with a shit ton of tests and the girls didn't seem to realize it always. As already somebuddy said: I think it's most of the time unconscious

[–]sicknick10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm 5'8 and walk around like I'm 10ft tall.

[–]zephyrprime8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You must duck your head a lot. Doesn't that get tiring?

[–]sicknick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually my chin is always up and yes, sometimes it does get tiring.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, posture is often more important than height. Of course a tall man with good posture is more attractive than an average or short man with good posture (all else being equal), but a short or average man with good posture can often beat out a tall man with shit posture. Good posture means not only do you control your space authoritatively, but you also lay claim to the area around you.

[–]NMF_18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

My height go to line is "well with my razor sharp mind, striking good looks, and charming disposition, being any taller would just be unfair." (I don't really have striking good looks btw, and I'm 5'8")

It usually works lol some women thinks it's too cocky but those women are usually 6-7s who can't handle the confidence in the first place.

[–]windwoke12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Gotta end with "m'lady" and a little tip of the hat

[–]NMF_-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Crazy that it works right?? Didn't think a simple one liner and hat tip would make your Mom give up her box so easily!!

[–]djthiago17 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Being funny shows confidence and low anxiety/stress, that's why it works and that's why they love it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

But he is not being funny, he is intentionally being corny. That's what I don't understand

[–]djthiago14 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

If people know he's doing it on purpose, it makes it even funnier, i do this stuff all the time with all my friends.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I understand that on some level.. but "I want to snort cocaine from your armpit"? That's not even corny, it's stupid, unnuanced and only funny to children or imbeciles. I have a feeling OPs circle of friends have an average IQ of 90

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It funny because it's based on stereotypes. For example I being of Nigerian descent may ask for a girls number and then after jokingly ask for her bank details. It's all about how you say things

[–]bowhunter63 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care who you are, that shit is funny. Hell, I'd bang you for saying some shit like that.

[–]bay2max points points [recovered] | Copy Link

It funny because it's based on stereotypes. For example I being of Nigerian descent may ask for a girls number and then after jokingly ask for her bank details. It's all about how you say things

[–]Pride_and_freedom4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course if you accuse a woman of bring fat, then you're a monster. But women can say whatever they want about men's height.

[–]jacksonmaher2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think my teacher once summed it up perfectly once when I asked him about it, he said (vaguely, I can't remember his exact words). "Modern day Equality is more of a punch in the gut to the word equality then it is to the men that are overlooked because of it, after all, it allows us, men, to progress further than others while the word Equality is just being slandered"

[–]Native_of_Tatooine3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting FR. For me, the most prevalent thing I have been noticing is, every girl is THAT girl to the right guy(awalt). I've been plating a married girl and it's interesting to see her hamster away the guilt.

[–]Landry862 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Move to my town... 5'9 is tall here lmao !!! :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Must suck for him up in the North, Scandinavia and those parts, average height there is like 5'11" or 6 foot.

[–]Stythe2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can feel pride just reading this and it's great. It's also nice to see a post with literal examples of how people act. Your humour is similar to mine and it works. Not just for women, but for life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

How does being intentionally corny work for getting girls? I'm guessing you have to be very attractive

[–]kennytrp[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because they don't give a shit whether or not you're corny so long as you're making them laugh and have fun. Hell, you can just stop mid-sex and motorboat her asshole with your face and tell her with a sad voice you can't put a ring on a hole. Granted that's not the best example, but I've done worse shit and made it work.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They have to be attracted to you in the first place for it to work. Being corny is not something impressive or attractive in and of itself

[–]Stythe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Attractiveness is good for anything, but a corny sense of humor got me my first couple lays when I was over 225 lbs with a ponytail in my early 20's.

Confidence trancends looks, and corny humour requires a specific knack or it comes off as lame. The key is delivery and awareness of the cheese factor. You also have to balance out other aspects. That's the thing you miss when you focus on any one thing.

Here's a scenario to explain. During a conversation about cheesy jokes, you ask someome what a pirate's favourite letter is and wait for them to say "R" because they always do. Then you respond in a pirate voice "Ah, ye'd think that but it actually be C!"

Now look at that situation. You led the conversation towards cheesy jokes. Whether people loved or hated them, you had the confidence to say something that silly and the knowedge of a joke. You have a good enough knack for conversation to let them guess a letter and then you amped it up at the end and moved on with the conversation. It's baiting. It won't always get you laid, but the right person at the right time will notice.

If you want a psychological answer I don't have one. I'd guess that cheesy jokes are childish and in a society where people are often stressed and walled up emotionally, if you can cut through their cynicism with an innocent joke they're more likely to see you as entertaining, which can be played to your advantage.

[–]TehJimmyy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I stay corny and 5'9".

Peace out.

[–]antariusz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time to begin believing the other aspects of TRP.

Hint: it's ALL true.

[–]frey881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

fucking hilarious post. 10/10

[–]WightMail1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As I have worked on my self (got in shape, dressed better, worked on my self confidence) I have been shit tested a lot. The weird part is I actually get it the most from my male friends and family. My theory is they see my SMV going up and are trying to subtly keep me in my place. Or maybe theyre trying to determine my new place in the pecking order? Or maybe I'm overanalyzing.

[–]RealRational1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to point out that the reason your "10/10 corny" approach works, is that it works for YOU. It comes down to confidence. That doesn't mean it would work for anyone else.

The woman sees a guy who loves himself, and who can't be shaken by the opinions of others. Which implies that he has superior understanding of the world. in reality it normally just indicates superior ignorance of the world, but that's not how women see it, which is one of many reasons they suck so hard at picking mates.

Your confidence in your corniness makes her believe that you have a better grasp on handling reality than she does, and all the promise that comes with.

Being the "short goofy guy" in the group works for you because you own it.

Now that you've got communal respect, you can re-imagine yourself, if you want. It's an opportunity.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not so much the corny part as it is the sexual innuendo or outright sexual language. You put it right up front on display, I want pussy and I'm not going to be your orbiting little bitch. Keep it sexual and you can get as silly as you want, always make sure she knows you want to fuck her, and that all of her holes are going to be yours.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whelp, guess all the complainers about being average can STFU now.

It's official, fuck your hugbox

[–]thewrightstuff881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that also being in an area where the average man is over 6" may make them feel "not as dominant" whereas here in the US, you have a variety of heights, making the 6"+ man more scarce and more valued.

The deciding factor here is that you set yourself apart with humor and confidence that a 6" man may not have since he is "the average male" in his region so he may not receive the kind of attention he would were he in the US.

As they say, location, location, location.

[–]ScharfeSatan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

great post, congrats on your success!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

well of course.

shit test=banter without wit.

[–]SanjayMethylPump0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well my brudda, your dick isn't corny. Good job on slaying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What should you respond to her shit tests? Laugh it off? Counter it?

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree and amplify. Take the comment to your ground. Take it away from her and brandish it.

[–]searinox20120 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

She has got to be the tallest colombian girl ever! Probably used to short guys already...they are quite short over there with very few exceptions

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's the part that makes me doubt a bit

[–]bob19816660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Height is becoming a weirder issue this generation. I am a honest 6 foot barefoot, and have had women call me out as "kinda short". And I have noticed lately that middle school kids are all 5-10 to 6ft already. It isn't uncommon to go to a movie on friday or walk through the mall and see a herd of 6 foot 16 year olds. I have heard some theories on the shit the put in meat now, and other stuff, but it is for sure happening somehow. You have to act like it means absolutely nothing to you at all times. You can never seem bitter about it, And also helps to acknowledge you are working from a deficit, the red pill is predicated on "harsh truths", so that applies even when it isn't in your favor.

[–]bowhunter60 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 5'-9", and I approve this message.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

my only question is HOW do you KNOW you are currently in the middle of a shit test?

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My rule of thumb in determining if I'm being shittested is A. Do I feel uncomfortable B. Is it something about which I'm defensive and C. Is the chick still talking with me?

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

great post man. keep up the good work

[–]4nt43us0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

An excellent post which demonstrates higher level thinking and awareness. If you can get to this level of thinking and awareness about situations you will be in a very good place.

[–]st3roids0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

um not really women who just wanna fuck they dont shit test sorry to break it to you , she was thinking bout it maybe cause ur short maybe in the end you were her best option so many maybies or maybe you just got lucky

[–]sadbasturd990 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

This seems like a lot of dancing like a monkey just to fuck a girl who is a disgusting slut. I felt empty after reading you post. Am I wrong or bad ?

[–]kennytrp[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not dancing like a monkey for me because this is how I am even with my guy friends. It just happens to work on women because everyone loves laughing. Chill on the language, though, you're obviously projecting some deep-rooted hatred for women.

TRP doesn't have to be about branding everyone a disgusting slut and misogyny. Use it as a tool to restore the balance and level the playing field, not to hate.

Take it from someone who's been down that path. If you want to act like an asshole and be rude to women for whatever reason you see fit, go ahead. But there will be consequences. You will burn bridges. You will be branded a sexist pig, and trust me, you won't get laid. I've been there. By being friendly to women, you open up doors and can extend your circle by being introduced to more women. The snowball effect is real. Being a decent human being isn't beta. Thinking you're being alpha by being an asshole is.

[–]sir_bastard-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what are some good comebacks/one-liners you use when girls shittest you on your height?

[–]omega_dawg935 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you're not bad or wrong... you're judgmental.

look... women play these games. they are programmed to do so overly and subconsciously.

if you want to deal with them (pussy) you have to put up with their antics. you either play the game or you don't.

as men we size reach other up thru physicality... but women aren't built to test you that way. they test you mentally and psychologically... to see if you're real or if you're fake.

[–]UltraCuyan-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Aww, manlet trying to say he's worth anything because of his confidence. Cute^ "I get laid more than them" No.. very no. More than some, sure. But not mpre than me. Also you have to waste your life away in a gym to compensate for your dwarf syndrome.

[–]kennytrp[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, what? I don't even need TRP, bro. I got laid long before I even knew the concept of TRP. I lurk here every now and then for some nuggets of wisdom regarding general life style choices. I decided to post here because I think there's a lot of confusion and I know for sure a lot of people on here are bitter and feel hopeless.

I barely even go to the gym. I got laid being 5'9" at 62 kgs for years. I do weigh around 73kgs now as I've been working out for 5 months because it clears my head and makes me feel good about doing something healthy. But even when I was as physically imposing as a sliced fruit I got laid, how about you?

None of this is compensating. I do deadpan cringe jokes even when I'm with my family. You think I'm trying to fuck my little brother?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this guy may be over compensating for being short but you're the real coward here for the way you are tearing down his progress and validating your own fucked up ego in a forum for support not slander,, you're a blue pill faggot and should gtfo

[–]UltraCuyan-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's like a legless guy that climbs a mountain just to prove he can. Good for him, but shut the fuck up about it. He's a living cliché.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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