Man works himself to death for his family, still treated like a shit.

crobertson89 · 2017-07-11T22:56:48+00:00

This is the guy gents this is the man so many men claim to want to be . Provider ,caregiver , committed husband , father, hard worker who provides his family not just with the basics of life but the luxuries as well and what does Mikey get ? Overworked to the point of exhaustion a wife who berates him for his attempted sacrifice ( shall we take bets if she would have been understanding if he did actually take her advice and work less?) , and death at 36 fucking years old .

By any classical standard you can argue this was a " good man " . It seems like some guys have a really hard time embracing the idea of being focused on yourself first. I get it there is such a thing as being too egotistical , everything in moderation . If the people I love are in pain naturally for most of us it's going to cause us some pain too but this is the opposite extreme .

I bet poor Mikey was a nice guy living the script he was taught and this is how his very brief life ends .... on the couch . R.I.P.

RedPill115 · 2017-07-11T23:21:10+00:00

This really sounded like a red pill story.

Guy marries a hot looking wife has kids
Starts to buy into the idea that he'll get more points for more beta behavior - works more, longer hours, all in the service of someone else - his boss, his kids, his family. His life becomes completely dominated by beta behavior and he loses all alpha status.
His wife predictably loses respect and attraction to him. She's actually an ok wife, getting mad at the things that are causing the loss of attraction. Like a typical beta idiot, he doubles down on beta behavior, thinking taking his family to disney is going to make up for it.
This is never going to work, but he also gets unlucky and dies as a result of the stress and trying to sleep on the lumpy couch his wife kicked him out onto.

Red Pill Lesson: Some beta behavior is necessary in a long term relationship, but when your beta is more than your alpha your wife will lose attraction for you. When you see yourself heading that way at all, figure out how to avoid it. Change jobs, etc. If you double down on even more beta behavior, not only will you lose your wife but your job might work you to death.

Alternative Theory: A crazy woman rode the cock carousel but eventually hit the wall. So she marries a delta/gamma guy, thinking this will settle things down for her. As time goes on she gets more and more crazy being trapped with such a pushover. He works more and more hours to get away from her craziness. One night he comes home from exhausted and collapsed in their bed. She loses her shit, and smothers him to death with a pillow. She drags his body out onto the couch while still warm to "discover" the next morning and make it look like an accident. She creates a sympathetic story about how he was a good guy who was going to take the family to disney world to divert attention away from herself.

Tie5o11 · 2017-07-12T01:58:36+00:00

This chick is now FUCKING the dead husband's brother. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

Shariabluew · 2017-07-12T01:20:43+00:00

Didn't she hook up with his brother after? Wasn't the cause of death choking for an unknown reason in his sleep? Bitch totally murdered his ass.

Klldarkness · 2017-07-11T22:28:22+00:00

I'm at work and archive.is is blocked but you're saying this dude literally fucking DIED and it's all about the wife bitching?

Fuck me... You know as much as the loneliness stings, I have my dignity as a silent but lifelong companion so I guess it could be worse.

Reformed65 · 2017-07-11T23:22:46+00:00

Time for some common sense folks.

She had told him that she was worried he was running himself into the ground and told her husband to sleep on the sofa for the night when they failed to resolve the dispute.

First off, when someone comes home from a long day of work, you don't start discrediting their work. The last thing they need is to work 16 hours a day and then to come home to a bitching wife. And second, if you care so much, why did you tell him to sleep on the sofa? Great great, yeah the husband works 16 hours and forget having some nice rewarding sex, he gets told to sleep on the hard sofa rather than the comfy bed.

Remember, the wife declines sex, one of her duties as a wife "you go girl! You independent!" the husband declines giving resources and money, one of his duties as a husband "You're deadbeat!" and if its in response to the declining of sex "you're a pig! Respect your wife!"

Even more tragically, she later discovered that Mr Murrell was working extra shifts as a carpet cleaner so that he cold save money to take her to Prague for their anniversary on July 3.

The tragic part is that now she can't go to Prague, not the fact that he worked extra shifts. She doesn't care about his (loss of) life, she cares more about losing her access to her hard-working husband. Now who's going to take her to Prague and Disney?!

“When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got angry. I was sick of it."

You got angry? You were sick of it? YOU?! You weren't the one working 16 hours a day.

“I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa which was stupid because I really just wanted him around more.”

And his money.

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’.

One, you don't fucking yell at a 14 year old that his father is dead. It's bad enough that his father- perhaps the only adult in his life that gave a shit about him/her- is now gone and has to put up with you, he/she got the news in the most dramatically way ever.

Oh running to the street? Yeah, pure attention seeking. "oh woe is me. My BB is dead, give me attention." anybody here would call the ambulance rather than screaming in the streets.

2017-07-12T06:17:31+00:00

What a piece of shit brother, anyone who betrays blood like that is a mild psychopath. Seems like the dead brother got all the altruistic genes, and the living brother got all the selfish genes.

xeneize93 · 2017-07-11T23:39:17+00:00

This reminds me so much of my dad, this really hit me. I can imagine this man doing everything he can to be a good man and do what he was taught to do which is provide for his family. My dad did the same, chased my mom trying to make her happy, going on unnecessary trips and all and at the end she still left him. I really feel for this guy.

PillTheRed · 2017-07-12T01:17:10+00:00

Dig a little further, this bitch is now fucking the guys brother not more than a few months later. Now, was this a new thing that happened? Or, was she fucking him the entire time? We all know the answer to that here. Deep down she is probably happy he died. But, again, we all know that she isn't going to pass up on the free attention.

Moctezuma1 · 2017-07-12T06:13:40+00:00

I dislike people like her. I was with someone whom always complained I never made enough money or that I was too smart to work with low income families. She never appreciated that while she worked 3pm to midnight shift, I bathe our two kids, fed them dinner, did homework, parent conference with their teachers, pick them up from school, cleaned our house all while having a full time job too. She left me and our kids to be with another man who earns more money, has a big house with a pool and has a fancy truck. Now I'm happy with my two kids, paying my mortgage for my small house and with 2 jobs now. Everyday is a struggle, but I just pretended she was at work anyways.

IntellingetUsername · 2017-07-12T06:40:12+00:00

There is a point that everyone is missing here. She told him to sleep on the lounge, he did. Any real man would have laughed in her face and said, how about you sleep on the lounge whilst pulling the covers over himself and rolling over for a good night's sleep. As for the rest of the story, wow, you couldn't even make this shit up.

Ker_Splish · 2017-07-12T01:50:58+00:00

What the fuck? She should have slept on the freaking couch and let him have the bed for working so hard. What a bitch.

ChunkyPuff2000 · 2017-07-12T07:09:25+00:00

When my daughter was born I understood that if I keep working as I do,I will miss her growing up. So the same very day I resigned from my job and took another one with smaller salary, but with much more comfortable working hours. I told my wife that I love her, but if she thinks that this decision of mine is not right, she can file a divorce anytime.So now several years later,I also have a son and pretty much happy. I enjoy my time with the kids and wife. We're still married for seven years now and maybe we cannot afford as much as we could before,but I must tell, no matter how hard we've been fighting I never slept on the couch.I think she knows without me telling that I can do well on my own if needed.

Gruppenzwang · 2017-07-12T06:08:09+00:00

So she got mad at him for being exhausted and in the second she noticed he was dead she started screaming "YOUR DAD IS DEAD"? Well, what a lovely woman.

Moneyley · 2017-07-12T15:31:13+00:00

Saw this article early yesterday morning. I'm glad somebody posted it.

I'm saddened mainly because he really embodied the type of man that women would call "a real man" and reinforces the mantra that TRP propagates- women dont really know what they want. Dude took care of the kids (i think they weren't actually his), busted his ass of working because he wanted to provide his princess a luxury vacation. The dude was totally in love, so much so that he was blind to all that was going on (his wife was probably flirting, at the least, with his brother)

In Memory of all the hard working men who strive to give the best for their family at whatever the price..... I would like to nominate THIS story and Mikey Murrell to the side bar.

Also, this needs to be archived under "His name was Mikey Murrell"

kmecha9 · 2017-07-12T03:51:10+00:00

The husband literally worked himself to death selflessly for the family and the wife still complains and is treated like the victim : /

He was even working extra 16 hours shifts to save up for their anniversary. The wife got mad and had him sleep on the sofa before his death.

Edit: Yikes Same "Woman whose husband died after she banished him to the sofa has found love again with his brother" Sounds like a black widow spider....Is she really in love again so quickly or looking for another disposable male? Seems a bit too soon for supposed griefing widow.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-whose-husband-died-banished-sofa-found-love-brother-081433639.html

relativebeingused · 2017-07-12T05:24:53+00:00

I had to look up just what the fuck a "beauty therapist" is and it's even bigger bullshit than I thought. Women, this is what you spend your fucking money on? If so, maybe you have enough already.

beginner_ · 2017-07-12T07:21:33+00:00

To all married/cohabitating guys:

The night you sleep on the couch is the night the relationship ended. In case of LTR it's simple: Find a place to stay ASAP and move out. Best if you have family, then you can go there straight without actually sleeping on the couch. If you are married you are fucked. You now need to pretend all is fine while secretly planing the divorce and trying to save as much as possible.

pbgswd · 2017-07-12T07:25:54+00:00

what a whore .... anyway, I really like it when you said this:

Don't waste your time, or money, on others. Be the best version of you that you can be, and make sure that you're the one profiting from it.

yomo86 · 2017-07-12T14:19:49+00:00

The bizzarre odd thing, though, if he had beaten her ass and drunk himself into oblivion every night while still making decent money, she would been so much on Love Mountain.

TheAC997 · 2017-07-12T16:09:51+00:00

Don't ever date a chick with eyebrows like that.

brinkleybuzz · 2017-07-12T16:11:44+00:00

Bitter RP lesson learned. Nice guys finish last.

We shouldn't blame a women for doing exactly what nature programmed them to do; use sex to get what they need and want from men ... money, security, comfort, protection, social status, professional advancement, good genes for mating, etc. Women only get away with as much or as little as men allow them to.

Mikey's death is his own fault because he allowed himself to be used and abused. I feel bad for him and those who lost him, but a man should never allow this to happen to himself.

Also, if a chick ever tells me to sleep on the couch in my home and not in the bed I paid for?! The next place she'll be sleeping is at the local shelter.

gmwbh · 2017-07-12T10:15:13+00:00

Don't do what this guy did. And don't go to Disneyland and other such nonsense. Also don't get girls with mental disorders

2017-07-12T10:54:36+00:00

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’.

Way to keep it together for your kids

YiloMiannopoulos · 2017-07-12T14:44:10+00:00

How the fuck did he die?? Why was that story all about her feelings???

“It’s strange how from something so awful, something good can happen. They are really happy together"

Bitch your husband died and now you're fucking his brother. That's beyond fucked up.

Kommanderdude · 2017-07-12T19:02:19+00:00

Yeah I don't think he died of exhaustion. He apparently choked in his sleep. Something fishy here boys. I think she was fucking his brother the whole time and got rid of him. And who gets banished to the couch? Last time my ltr tried that I just rolled over and did say a word. She ended up leaving to go to the couch. She came back. Lol

ex_addict_bro · 2017-07-12T04:45:44+00:00

Where's the news?

If you don't respect yourself, don't expect other people will.

If you make a woman your mission, she will despise you for that.

This guy was probably addicted to the external validation which usually came from the wife. This is why it is so important to be self reliant and to be able to validate yourself internally.

Whomever this woman is fucking now is none of our business.

19yoManChild · 2017-07-12T01:14:53+00:00

Would love to nail down a specific cause of death, as it is not mentioned in the article.

fromthecrypt8 · 2017-07-12T08:42:23+00:00

As much as I wanna write grotesque shit about what this utter piece of thrash whore deserves, let's just focus on the learning experience this story provides: Work for you and your future only.

Apart from some cool experiences and necessities, give your kids the TOOLS to make it on their own, dont give them too much stuff. Redpill your sons from early age!

MattyAnon · 2017-07-12T12:15:02+00:00

From the article:

When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got angry. I was sick of it. I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa

Yup - he's working too hard so she kicks him out of the bed (that he pays for) to sleep on the sofa. And these are HER words, you can bet the reality wasn't quite like this.

She only regrets any of this when the guy died.... and she's even using this to get publicity and attention.

2017-07-12T13:36:48+00:00

After a 16 hour shift to support my family. You'll bet your arse that bed is mine.

drty_pr · 2017-07-12T14:57:55+00:00

Lesson learned: NEVER SLEEP ON THE COUCH

axeAce90 · 2017-07-12T15:19:48+00:00

Gentlemen, this is not a one-off event. This has happened MANY times. Only difference is that this was reported on. Rollo Tomassi told us....women can't understand or appreciate the sacrifices men make to even be a man, let alone take care of his family. There is only superficial appreciation at best, but it is never bone deep. Not as bone deep as a man's drive to provide for his family is. The woman just wants the benefits and could care less about how he is running on fumes, so long as she can get Starbucks and Jimmy Choo shoes and take 100,000 Instagram pics a day.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-07-12T02:43:52+00:00

It's ok to feel a little sympathy, but we can't just keep having a circle jerk about how horrible women like this are. Honestly TRP and the information on here isn't much of a secret anymore. More men and women know about it than you think. And given that, and this will sound harsh, but I ascribe some blame to the men for putting themselves in these situations. Forever sympathizing with men who make these kind of mistakes, which I see a great deal of in the comment section, is only gonna keep yourself in the anger phase longer. Stories like these should still be posted as a warning about staying blue pulled, but be cautious in not getting too caught up in them

victordmor · 2017-07-12T02:21:02+00:00

Unbelievable. And slowly my hopes on the women, commited LTR and marriage are ending.

DarthCallidous · 2017-07-12T03:29:54+00:00

I wasn't pissed up until the end with the brother.

Wow.....just wow.

2017-07-12T11:20:45+00:00

wtf his kids were even ADOPTED they weren't even his

blisstime · 2017-07-12T12:40:35+00:00

It's like that Kafka story, The Metamorphosis.

Moneyley · 2017-07-12T15:32:02+00:00

HIS NAME WAS MIKEY MURRELL

2017-07-12T17:22:37+00:00

Everyone should walk up to their dad if he is still alive and shake his hand with true appreciation for his sacrifice, it'll probably be the first time in his life anyone's ever appreciated him for that on a genuine level.

froggie-style-pepe · 2017-07-12T02:51:51+00:00

Read the article, my dudes. She got pissed because he was working himself into an early grave. She cared about the guy, he cared about everyone so much he literally died.

vwzwv · 2017-07-12T09:17:29+00:00

He was probably fine dying that way. Hear me out. Because the way boys are raised it's typical for men to become addicted to the stimulation that comes from seeing himself as a martyr. "I'll work my ass off and take my family to Disneyland. That's what kind of a man I am" <gets dose of stimulation>. If he can he'll marry a pretty woman and willfully be completely used by her because people will not deny, "I am successful because I have a beautiful wife." He was raised wrong, bought in to image that men who sacrifice are great, great, the greatest men. He might just be glad he died like that because people could say, "He was such a good man he worked himself to death." He doesn't need to be alive to feel the glory because he's a martyr.

The wife on the other hand.. this type of woman is a perfect fit for this man. Just look at her picture. If you've studied body language at all you know the look on her face is the expression of contempt. It's more nuanced than just contempt though. It's closer to, "the expression one gets on their face from the pleasure they get from manipulating and using an individual in totality" Many women's faces look just like that. This is why I've always been leary of the girl character Elsa (I believe is her name) from the movie Frozen. I've never seen the movie, but she looks like the typical manipulator woman that has gone under the radar all her life. I agree with OP 100% when he said the wife's husband'd death was really only about her. I see this behavior in mothers who schedule soccer, ballet, etc for their kids but clearly don't give a f'k about them. For the mother it's all about the self-identity she forces on others "What a good mother she is for taking her daughter to ballet classes" All she cares about is living her own narrative. If the kid can't handle the mold their being put in and acts out the mother will talk to a consoler (whose life mostly consists of going home and watching 4 hours of Women TV shows) and promptly put the child on hard core anti-depressents so the mother doesn't have to deal with any of it.

2017-07-12T10:03:09+00:00

he did it for his kids fuck his wife

2017-07-12T11:36:28+00:00

I'll be damned if a woman will tell me where to sleep. I'm the one that will tell her to sleep elsewhere. I paid a pretty penny for my bed and I intend to use it.

reddttt · 2017-07-12T12:52:20+00:00

I'm young and keep seeing this type of shit among the men around my age. They have to work shitty jobs, study something at an university at night and have a newborn. I mean.. There's a point it isn't even trp, it's common sense! Why make it so hard on your life? I really can't understand.

Klldarkness · 2017-07-12T15:48:37+00:00

Any news on what he died of?

TimmyTurnersNuts · 2017-07-12T17:35:09+00:00

Honestly I do not see the point of marriage. It's a business scheme that isn't worth diving into. You HAVE to be selfish to an extent. I see guys all the time spending hard earn money on people who don't even appreciate the time and money being spent. Do it for you.

2017-07-12T20:06:04+00:00

There are a couple of things which stand out, to me.

Her face is awfully fucked up for 35 years old; too much plastic surgery??
Her husband died of 'choking', or strangling, wtf. Hmmm...
Her brother in law is now fucking her. Hmmm...I'm sorry, but, I have read too many Alfred Hitchcock short story collections to let this pass. Let's see, unhappy wife, death by choking, brother takes over pussy duty, all within 2 months??? hmmm...Nope! Nothing wrong with this picture!

SkorchZang · 2017-07-13T03:10:19+00:00

One look at the fox's plastered face is enough to know who wears the pants in that house.

RPDrogan · 2017-07-13T04:36:33+00:00

I'm currently studying for an evolutionary psych class and felt this might be relevant.

Our desire to mate/have sex is biological and due to our desire to procreate and pass on our genes.

There are 2 types of mating strategies. Long term mating strategies and short term mating strategies.

Short term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to men. Long term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to women. This can be explained by the fact that Eggs are few, large, and costly, while Sperm are tiny, numerous, and cheap.

So in the sort of relationship in the article, the woman has achieved her goal of finding a man who is a long term provider. However this is not enough for her because she also wants attention which he is unable to give her due to being at work providing for their family. He ended up giving her everything including his life. She ended up fucking his brother shortly after his death.

There's a reason you have trouble staying monogamous. Alphas are meant to pass on their genes to as many mates as possible. Not just 1. Marriage does not benefit men. Long term monogamy does not benefit men.

IamDeathRS · 2017-07-13T06:30:58+00:00

How can he choke to death in his sleep after a huge domestic altercation, and charges are not filed?

justgotalpha · 2017-07-12T01:08:40+00:00

Guys, do NOT GET MARRY!! under any circumstance!!!

blu02 · 2017-07-12T06:28:10+00:00

I feel like this is one of those girls you look at and instantly see a big red flag.

trpanak1n · 2017-07-12T07:14:47+00:00

https://youtu.be/on5Rn_JNl7s

2017-07-12T07:24:56+00:00

None of us can know the actual substance of the argument but if she'd honestly been telling him to cut back on work for his health, and that the "extravagences" weren't necessery etc, then I find it hard not to see where she is coming from - but she could just be saying that in hindsight to make herself look better.

Working just to support someone else seems like a living hell to me, I mean, I hate the idea of having kids so I'm perhaps a bit of an outlier but damn - what's the point?

seujeb1 · 2017-07-12T11:50:45+00:00

This is like a real life version of "The Metamorphosis" by Kafka. Highly recommend it if you haven't read it yet.

2017-07-12T15:39:25+00:00

Not even hot. Beat fuckin hair

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-07-12T17:27:53+00:00

*relegated. Feel free to edit and I'll delete this comment.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-07-12T17:28:43+00:00

Yes, amazing how the article is all about her. Why wasn't she working as well???

Momo_dollar · 2017-07-12T17:36:46+00:00

Read on a newspaper her FB status currently says.., in a relationship... and it's with the guys brother!

Zweihander747 · 2017-07-12T19:38:49+00:00

Western women. Not even once.

Linoran · 2017-07-13T01:07:19+00:00

Yeeeeah... Why do I find it hard to believe his health was the topic of their argument.

cashmoney_x · 2017-07-13T13:09:21+00:00

She doesn't give a FUCK. It's so obvious.

AnonX66 · 2017-07-13T20:06:57+00:00

This men, is why you don't get married. Work how you want, make the money you want, have the life YOU want. Not the life some random chick shoves you into.

SoSconed · 2017-07-13T20:40:19+00:00

Probably just another case of hiding money and providing literally no home existence.

16 hours a day is completely fucked. No wonder the women was sick of his shit.

Gbobby101 · 2017-07-13T22:09:49+00:00

The rage is this thread is based on her bullshit story.

The only facts are he came home from a 16hr workday, was found dead of SUFFOCATION the next morning on the couch and she married his brother 2-months later.

sidssahu · 2017-07-14T01:29:53+00:00

Been recently introduced to this sub, but damn, this story is shit scary and hit a raw nerve. So here goes:

Redpill Lesson - Only marry when:

You're genuinely and absolutely confident in your own self in a truly unshakeable way. Use spirituality, meditation, reading, learning or anything similar which is more deep and robust than your 'personality' or your body to derive your self worth from.
The girl in question has no visible desire to field more seeds and has matured over and beyond this stage.

The latter is tricky to detect and often not under your control. But the former is and that's what truly matters. Even the best wife in the world will lose respect if no. 1 is missing. Also, if one wants to attract the 10s from both the inside and out, radiating that sort of calm self assurance is absolutely necessary. Best of luck to all!

2017-07-14T06:14:56+00:00

But it said they got into a fight over the fact that he was wearing himself to the ground...so doesn't that mean that the girl was trying to NOT make him work so much? Am I missing something here?

Hjalmbere · 2017-07-14T06:18:12+00:00

When I read this I can't but help wondering what she brought to the table except her problems and her pussy?

BigBrotherZiggy · 2017-07-14T15:00:18+00:00

When I read about the brother I had to make an effort not to puke, seriously. This is disgusting. And the fucking friends PRAISE her. I'm literally sick

engine1321 · 2017-07-14T21:15:30+00:00

This was me, about 3 years ago. Except I didn't die she left because she thought I was working too much and used it as an excuse avoid coming home. I lived the script perfectly and she still left. No winning.

The lesson I learned was a tough one. Get yours and keep it.

sidssahu · 2017-07-15T06:05:52+00:00

Hmm..you're right.

Also, the way the general mood is regarding feminism these days, it's all going to get only worse.

JBrody · 2017-09-10T03:45:30+00:00

I read about dude passing around a month ago. Wow at the update.

ChristopherBurr · 2017-07-12T09:12:47+00:00

They were fighting about how much he worked. My wife gets upset about this too. She doesn't care about the money: She genuinely wants to spend more time with me.

If you're working 16 hours a day, 7 days a week - what kind of relationship do you really have? You're never around, despite having good intentions.

Also, it looks like he had two small kids. I do too. Going to work is often times a LOT easier than dealing with the kids. It's not really fair to drop all the child care on to his wife would also has a job.

Sorry my comments don't fit the narrative of the sub, but just my own personal experience here.

deville05 · 2017-07-12T11:16:14+00:00

Feminism started when men went off to war. Literally the women's rights movement is built upon the bodies of men. It is what it is and I have no problem with women having rights and being treated like equal citizens. They deserve that. but women need to appreciate what men have done and died for. They need to appreciate and educate themselves to what men have done for them. If men and women went to war, women would loose in 15 minutes. Literally the only reason women even have the kind of rights that they do is because many good men fought alongside them for their rights. Saudi is still a place where women don't have male allies in their struggle for rights and look how far they have got. I also think that the Saudi men don't side with their women for their rights because they can see what is happening in the west now with divorce and superficial bully version of feminists and how men are treated and they are just like "fuck that it's a rabbit hole we are not going down".

Girlforgeeks · 2017-07-12T18:15:13+00:00

That's what you took from this?

Not:

wife is concerned about husband (and clearly rightly so). So she tells him, as couples are supposed to communicate.

One can assume she wanted him to understand that trips to Prague and Disney were NOT important, and that she preferred her husband stay the fuck alive?

This is a sad place. It's like The sub incels 2.0.

E: you're mods saw fit to remove this, so I guess truth hurts?