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Red Pill TheoryBrutally Effective Strategy For Dealing With Guys Who Try To Steal Your Girl (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ForeverKarlMalone

As a shorter guy, this is something I see quite a lot of: I open a girl, flirt with her, tease her, she’s having a good time.

All of a sudden, a random guy approaches and tries to interrupt me.

I don’t see this happen nearly as often to taller guys 6’0” but for me, it happens just about in any setting, even Parties and Meetup events. Another guy comes up and interrupts the conversation and spits his own version of game.

This was incredibly frustrating for a while and I tried just about everything to try to overcome it. I tried agree and amplify to whatever underhanded insult the other guy threw my way. But that would quickly devolve into the girl losing interest in both me and the other guy since it was just 2 guys trying to one up each other... not good

I tried going on the attack and insulting the other guy’s fashion or comparing him to a dumb movie character... but same thing as before, this would just result in 2 guys fighting over one girl, which means the girl loses interest.

I even tried going the apocalypse route. “You... get the fuck out of here now! Or I’ll fucking murder you!” to try to intimidate them into leaving but unfortunately, this scared the girl off too. Really dumb on my part please don’t do this. I’m lucky I didn’t get killed.

I finally discovered the secret after I tried to interrupt another dude’s set and steal his girl. He didn’t insult me. He didn’t even look my way. And that’s the secret. Total and complete ignoring, like a king would do if a peasant approached him. His girl remained glued to him, and even told me to go away!

This was incredible! I began applying and modifying this new discovery and found that this is by far the most effective way of dealing with guys that try to steal your girl. It demonstrates that the guy is such low value that he’s not even worth your time to notice.

In fact, I made a slight modification after dealing with one too many persistent guys that got angry and kept trying to enter the conversation anyways: apologizing on their behalf!

I still wouldn’t even so much as glance at the other guy. He’s not worthy of my attention. But I would “apologize” to the girl on his behalf. “I’m so sorry, we keep getting interrupted, my apologies”.

What this does is it conveys that not only is the other guy not worthy of attention, but also that his social intelligence is so low, he can’t even recognize that he’s interrupting and thus, I have to “apologize” on his behalf the way a Dad would for his misbehaving son!

At this point, usually the girl will tell the other guy to leave! Same thing that happened to me. Simple, brutally effective strategy to prevent other guys from stealing your girl.

Of course, all this goes out the window if the guy knows the girl. For that you’ll need actual social skills to befriend the guy.


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[–]ZeppKfw470 points471 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Smart. I also heard that ignoring anyone that tries to interrupt your conversation with someone shows that you are committed to the conversation and is listening. Adds to your Charisma.

[–]sheaWG46 points47 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

sometimes I like to play a little game with myself to see if I can hold two conversations at the same time

[–]1Ill_mumble_that25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The voices never stop, so now I talk to them.

[–]lord25282 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean the voices comes later? I always thought it was there from the beginning...

[–]1ForeverKarlMalone[S] 80 points81 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Never thought about it from a seeming more engaged and listening perspective but that makes sense too!

[–]Messsi317 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What you did is what I did to not only guys like that but my parents too since I was a teen.

It just came natural to me tho. My teachers hated my gut.

Women? They absolutely love it.

[–]barry34281 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Could you elaborate on how you did this to different people, like your teachers?

[–]Messsi312 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I was always bored in my class and would do some stupid shit or simply I wasn't listening the lessons and that would get them angry at me.

Teachers would try to scold me and I just didn't show any signs of giving a fuck. One of my teachers said to my parents I'm the only student she never manage to read, whatever she thought by that.

We actually had really rough teachers that would sometimes beat their table or throw shit around, try to scare us etc. And they would even get the girls to tears when screaming at them, they were that rough lol. I just couldn't care any less because I didn't feel threatened.

Here's another thing. My parents tried to beat me in my teen years and at that point I wasn't reacting to it anymore. When my mom tried to beat me with a kitchen spoon I just laughed and kept doing what I was doing. Their beatings didn't had any effect on me.

I treated so many adults like children while I was still a kid lol.

[–]ProfessorChuckFinley307 points308 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Here's the psychology behind it -

Alpha/high status men aren't worried about other men taking their girl, for two reasons.

  1. They don't think it will happen
  2. They think "if it does happen, oh well, fuck her"

If a janitor was hitting on a CEOs wife, the CEO probably wouldn't be worried. She very likely wouldn't fuck this janitor. But if she did, oh well, he can find a new girl. However, if a CEO was hitting on a janitors wife, he'd probably be panicking.

They both have an idea of their own status and act accordingly (the janitors worried, the CEO isn't).Women subliminally pick up on this behavior and it heavily influences their opinion.

If you act worried that your girl will get stolen, it will imply to her that youre a low status/beta male. If you couldn't care less that some guys is flirting with her, it implies that youre a high status/alpha male.

[–]Nomfwic48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This goes hand in hand with abundance mentality. Good point.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

abundance mentality

Which means you don't give a fuck if any one piece of ass gets pealed off to go fuck someone else. You already have plenty.

[–]macrian28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The smart janitor will make the wife get pregnant from CEO and then extort him for money, then divorce the girl and say she cheated in court, with the child as proof

[–]ArcangeloPT7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what I tell my friends when they ask me if I’m not afraid of my girl going to do x or y or z. They don’t seem to understand that one must put himself in a position of being the prize. It’s her loss, not theirs.

[–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jacked black janitor-wife-ceo husband. This remind me some scenes lol

You are right. Indiffrence is better than any action.

[–]Angelmv861 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This kind of thinking is hilarious and truly is a defense mechanism.

The thought of people considering themselves alpha is gold tbh. Considering the amount of semi Intelligent Chads out there that make everything in their lives about that in order to feel some sort of validation screams beta and it’s a self eating ideology.

Like, in your mind you have to rat race and strive to be like the CEO because you wouldn’t be comfortable enough as a unique individual working as a janitor and use that as your example of high value/ low value man. All worth to you is external when for most women it’s completely the opposite and you fail to understand that.. yes even the vain, ultra materialistic women out there (who are usually pretty but dumb and talentless) think that way when you peak their interest even without knowing your profession... The most Beta thing a man can do is work their life away to acquire materials that they believe make them a high value man instead of doing it because you want to for yourself, just to date a woman who looks like a 10, but has to read with her finger guiding her. And has minimal life skills. What a waste of fucking time and energy.

[–]ProfessorChuckFinley1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Like, in your mind you have to rat race and strive to be like the CEO because you wouldn’t be comfortable enough as a unique individual working as a janitor and use that as your example of high value/ low value man.

When did I mention anything about me becoming a CEO? I simply explained part of the psychology of female attraction. For some reason, you are making this personal.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo132 points133 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

There is no one-size-fits-all approach. Sometimes you may look like a weirdo or a pussy by ignoring the guy when he is trying to talk to you. Sometimes the guy starts talking to your girl when you're in the bathroom.

The key is to adapt your principles to whatever situation you are in. Your principles are the following: 1) you have complete confidence that the girl likes you and will come with you to fuck you, no matter what the other guy does, 2) nothing the other guy can do can perturb your emotional state, 3) you are the leader in every interaction you are in, and 4) your goal is to have fun, and you will anybody attention - man or woman - so long as they are contributing to your fun and adventure. These 4 things are basically "holding frame."

So if a guy walks up to you and your girl and he is saying something interesting and funny, you can humor him until he stops being interesting and funny. Then you ignore him. If he starts being douchey and unpleasant (which will immediately happen 99% of the time if you are holding frame), you can LEAD the woman away from the douchey unpleasant guy that is infringing on our adventure. And if the woman wants to stay and talk to the guy - good - she never liked you anyway.

The most alpha thing you can do to a random guy who tries to move in on your pussy is to smile and be as friendly as possible, while simultaneously making clear that you are not going to let him be unpleasant to either you or her.

[–]Fulp_Piction7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

If you feel like you have to do anything, you've seen this guy as a threat, gotten too invested in the outcome and probably broken frame. That being said, an acquaintance tried spitting direct game at my LTR in a club once, I was just like 'cmon man you know thats not happening' and he ended up buying a drink.

Looking back on it I think he was testing me more than anything with the bonus that he had a lot to gain if I failed. I fucked up after by bringing it up with her, saying she should've done xyz. I feel like I was mate guarding but it seemed to work out. Thoughts?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I fucked up after by bringing it up with her, saying she should've done xyz. I feel like I was mate guarding but it seemed to work out. Thoughts?

Generally speaking, if you need to tell a woman you are with to not talk to other guys, then you're already pretty much dead. Women only feel strong attraction to one guy at a time and if you're not it then you're just wasting your time. The implicit message should be "the girl is lucky to be with the guy, and if she screws it up by talking to some other dude then he will go talk to another girl and she is just screwed," so she should know she is just fucking herself by talking to other guys.

That said, whether it is appropriate depends on the phase of relationship you are in. If you just met a girl you cannot tell her what to do but if you are married or in a LTR you can jointly set expectations about what is and is not appropriate. But if she violates those rules, you crying about it and filing a complaint with the manager like a Karen probably won't help - you may need to just cut her loose.

[–]cvbnjk4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How does one differentiate between mateguarding/jealousy versus setting boundaries in your opinion?

Plus in this day and age, women have more options than ever: whether it's a "guy friend" she's known for years or the random guy that approached her at a bar

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There are two possible approaches to the problem.

The normal/socially acceptable/politically correct approach would be that the man and the woman have a discussion, rationally determine what each is allowed and not allowed to you, and then fight if somebody breaks those rules. This approach sounds nice in theory but often fails in practice because 1) you can't possibly create rules for every situation and if new situations come up its an argument, 2) you can't rationally negotiate about emotions - if she is enjoying talking to some other guy she won't give a fuck about your "agreement".

The more emotionally correct approach is that you project the following emotion: "I am only staying with you so long as I am enjoying myself. The moment I stop enjoying myself I start becoming distant until I am gone." So for example, if I am out with my girlfriend and she sees her old friend from college I have no problem with her talking to him and catching up for like 10 minutes. But if they have a 30 minute conversation without me while I stare at the wall like a chump I am going to get bored and leave. And the most important thought in your girl's head should always be "I hope my man is enjoying himself." The language of emotions is much stronger and more sophisticated than that of rational agreements so if you project that your emotional experience is paramount she will make sure she doesn't talk to the other guy for too long.

As a practical matter, it is impossible to perfectly hold frame all the time, so you need to mix in a little bit of both approaches: you make your boundaries clear as a rational matter, but you also instill the terror that if she oversteps the boundaries there will be no arguing - you will just lose interest.

Plus in this day and age, women have more options than ever: whether it's a "guy friend" she's known for years or the random guy that approached her at a bar

Who gives a fuck about her options? You have to think you are the prize. I have dated semi-famous models and I was completely assured that they weren't going anywhere.

[–]cvbnjk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I definitely agree with your notes above, and actually prior to asking I had scoured TRP and AskTRP for what people had said and commented previously

It seems to me that everyone falls into two camps:

1.) don't say anything about boundaries or limits at all because you shouldn't have to since you are a high value man, and you don't care, and you're pursuing your mission. she should understand the boundaries and if she strays, you drop her and next bc she's not LTR material

or 2.) say your boundaries early on, but say them once. be clear early into the relationship or before LTR starts about what you expect i.e. you'd say something to her like "if I have a gf, my understanding is she does not flirt with other guys, especially keep contact or meet with ex's". but the key is to say it once, to make it perfectly clear, and then don't bring it up again

So the camp seems to be divided into say nothing (0) or say something once (1), but either way you have to be willing to drop and next her if she crosses those boundaries. I'm leaning towards the latter, like mentioning it once. But I won't repeat myself after that

[–]1Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are no black and white rules.

If she's talking to other men in front of you they aren't an issue. If she won't talk to them in front of you that's a huge red flag. You set the boundaries you want and you fucking walk if she breaks them. How? Tell her like a child "these are the rules" before there is an issue Be proactive with boundaries, not reactive.

If your LTR still has Tinder installed that's boundary breaking.

More importantly if your LTR ever had Tinder installed, why did you foolishly upgrade her from plate status?

[–]Fulp_Piction1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough. I didn't throw the toys out of the pram, I was like - if someone's obviously hitting on you, just end the convo and come get me. She didn't immediately do that so I judged by the actions and it didn't sit right with me. I walked into the convo as he said it so maybe she was about to tell him to fuck off, who knows.

[–]Magicus17 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This!

I heard the new place to pick up women in clubs is outside the bathroom.

Cuz girls have their defenses down and their boyfriends aren’t around hovering since they’re watching their drinks.

Yeah.

Honestly, this is like back in the day, if you roll up on my farm and try to steal, I should be able to shoot you, but now iT’s A fElOnY.

[–]EffigyDijjih10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Funny enough.

A year ago, a few friends and I were enjoying some bar hopping in Santa Barbara. In our first venue I decide to head to the rest room after we ordered our drinks. On my way, I saw this cute 5'4ish blonde standing outside the door of the bathroom. I engage her and we start hitting it off fast. Got her giggling and starry eyed, when out of nowhere this 6'0 something guy comes up to us. He looks at me, then quickly looks at her giving her the "Is this guy bothering you?" eyes. Completely interrupting this fun conversation we're having. I got this grin across my face as I look back at my girl, we share a look then look back at him and start laughing. We laughed like two kids sharing an inside joke, watching someone who's completely clueless try to "get it".

I threw my arm around the guy, and brought him closer to her so that he can say whatever it is he wanted to say. He muffled mouth something, and without really even listening she asked him if he needed to use the restroom. The bathroom opened up, and she almost tossed ol dude in there herself. We went straight back to enjoying ourselves. After a minute or so he came out the bathroom, and walked clear past us. I let the little lady use the restroom, we say our goodbyes, have our hug and go out separate ways.

This was the first and so far only time I've ever experienced it, but man was it like something out of a movie. I wouldn't believe it myself if it didn't literally happen to me. I learned a lot from that night, and many other nights like it. I think every man should spend a few months enjoying the club and nightlife scene. It's some of the most raw and visceral examples human nature you'll ever see in front of you.

[–]aFida952 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Better yet get a job at a Bar or club...preferably front of house. Redpill training like investment training from Warren Buffet

[–]Pestilence19113 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I used to be a bouncer.

My coworkers thought I was gay because I didn't take home any of the women throwing themselves at me, and told them it was rape if they're drunk and I'm not (legally it is)

[–]aFida950 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

It was the same for me including all the female staff literally harassing you, although i used to be at the bar. Made me realize i actually like the chase lol

[–]Pestilence19112 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I swear, the summer I was there every female waitress had a breakdown and was crying in the back....every single one

[–]aFida952 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah man, It gives you some empathy for women. Most of them are hormonal and emotional messes who are just finding their place in the world

[–]Pestilence19113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw a huge redpill there.

Before I worked there we had a coworker, face tats, missing teeth, alright guy. Looks like a gangster, the first time we go there, a waitress walks up to him, and says I want to sit on your face, and they go outside and fuck.

It's really that easy. (He's now in jail for murder, but I think he took the rap for his sister/was blamed. Guy doesn't strike me as violent at all) He met my mom, and I saw love in her eyes too lmao.

And did you have issues with east Indian cab drivers groping girls?,. We had it happen a few times, and lots of women would talk about it, of course nothing ever got done about it cause the responding officer was always brown.

[–]boy_named_su79 points80 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

AKA AMOG tactics:

https://heartiste.org/2011/10/18/revisiting-amog-tactics/

https://therationalmale.com/2015/02/02/the-art-of-amog/

https://puas.forumotion.com/t218-amog-tactics-by-tyler-durden

[–]1ForeverKarlMalone[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

These are all great, thanks for sharing!

[–]EvolvedA5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This comment should be upvoted more.

There are plenty of proven ways that work and while OP's approach is in principle a good one, I don't think that apologizing to her about the interruption by the other guy is really a good thing. Yes, you maybe show better social skills than the AMOG and make him appear being below you, but you shouldn't apologize for anything that isn't your fault and that you don't honestly are sorry about. Also, it puts her in the center of the attention, on a pedestal, which is also a no-no.

[–]lukesterboi131 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

"Get out of here or I'll murder you"

That'll getcha arrested, bud

[–]cosmicdissonance116 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah the hyper-aggression typical of such a threat is telling of insecurity and immaturity imo, being alpha isn't having outbursts and getting caught in your own self centred melodrama, it's a step away from that mindset where your sense of authority precedes your behaviour, a subtlety, a knowing ones value. Don't be a fragile ego with a solid exterior, don't command someone to change, you are central, you shouldn't be worried.

[–]KIsarek107 points108 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the shit I'm subbed for.

[–]monkmodeimprove16 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I am currently reading the rational male and have taken the red pill. Do you guys know where I can read/learn some game tactics?

[–]Scabsandwhich6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tod V dating on youtube has some good game tactics. Best thing you can do is trial and error/finding your own approach style. Rejection happens in all facets of life, just have to embrace it. Practise wherever and whenever.

[–]skyrunner223 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to read the foundational stuff, Dont get bogged down in so many books because there are too many and getting out and practicing is how you get better. Can find pdf online for these below.

-Book of Pook (audio on youtube)

-Mystery method/revelations

-Bang/Day Bang/Game by roosh

-Mode One

Start there. Also someone in this thread posted link to roissy blog, his was best blog of that blog era ('08-12) to learn game. Since it was in blog format, others put his post in order to learn best on old Roosh forum. Take a peak

https://archive.li/7G5t9

[–]ShadowKnight3245 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The side bar, or the about section of the sub if you are on mobile

[–]Andgelyo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually going out there and hitting on girls works. You can read every book in the world about game but if you can’t apply it then you’ve wasted your time.

[–]debuggingaids1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Best thing to do first is fixing your mindsets, you probably have somethings that are not right yet. As for me, I feel today as natural in game, I didn't have to learn many tactics, what was fucking me up was my scarcity, loser and social anxiety infested mindset. When I was able to (long process) let loose of that, the rest just fell in place.

How to do it? Watch Alex social YouTube channel and read some books like the art of not giving a fuck, stumbling on happiness, how to conquer social anxiety and others. It's a process much more than learning something, but I guarantee that if you work on that, 80% of your game will be done, the rest will just add to the mix and improve you up to the top 5% of men in game.

[–]LotBuilder49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m a bigger guy so it happens less often but if it does I just hold my pointer finger up in his face like “hold on” then finish whatever we are talking about then I tell him “we are good, we don’t need anything” like he works at the venue. If they still try “she’s good too, she will come find you if she needs something, thanks, bye.”

[–]kaymaximus5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I thinks it’s way better to use the situation as a way to “test” the girls interest in you. You just see how she reacts to the other guys advances: she’ll either ignore him if he likes you, or will humour him if he likes him. At that point you instantly know where she stands and can use your time more efficiently talking to other prospects. With what you do, i think you may be missing on that chance.

[–]LotBuilder2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Possibly but I just assume she is into me and not him. If that’s not the case she will find a way to shut things down when I try to escalate. Often girls just go along with the guy that takes charge and has a plan.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Tangent: it's established that people are more respectful to taller men, height is almost a sign of authority.

[–]collegeguy1152 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes height is a status symbol. So is being jacked, having titanium frame, peacocking etc. Even better is actually having high status, if a girl sees you confidently leading a group she will be interested.

[–]4ktx4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm a pretty boy, 5'3. Trust me it beats height, interms of status. People walk up to me and ask me, "what are the girls saying". I'm perceived as popular.

[–]rad_dynamic2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Authority and masculinity. Taller men are just more masculine. They are physically stronger. Which is why they will always have a few points extra if everything else is completely equal (but, it never is, so there is hope for you short people).

[–]4ktx2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Pretty boy > Authority. Girls greatest asset is her looks. Pretty boy boyfreind is confirmation that she is pretty.

[–]rad_dynamic5 points6 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Masculinity (and confidence) > Looks

Going for and getting a high value man also qualifies a woman that she is in the top percentiles in attractiveness.

[–]4ktx1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I'm usually perceived as the highest valued man in the room. Even at 5'3. Pretty boy = Perceived popularity = Status.

[–]whatever491 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Like actually If I saw ur pretty boy ass outside the club I’d physically dominate u

[–]4ktx4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Why do you feel the need to dominate me?

[–]whatever491 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

You sound like a cocky prick calling yourself a pretty boy if u we’re taking all that shit in person you’d get stomped little guy

[–]theycallmeiago2 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Literally just got tooled bro

[–]whatever490 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What is this your backup account 😂😂

[–]4ktx3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Insecure? Don't hurt me bro.

[–]whatever490 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m dead u actually used an alt account to try and chirp me talk about insecure

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If the interaction degenerates, move on to another girl. It's not worth getting into a fight over some girl you don't even know, especially if you're smaller than the other guy. It might seem macho to pick fights with people, but in reality it's just stupid, especially if you're dealing with other people who have been drinking. You might get your ass kicked, and some people carry weapons. Even if you woop his ass, the police are almost always called, and you risk getting arrested. I may sound paranoid to some of you reading this, but these are worst case scenarios, and is even slightly risking any of this worth the possibility of getting with some bar skank you don't even know?

[–]Revolverboi4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep some people forget how fast you are in a prison cell or in the hospital. The anxiety afterwards if someone reports you isnt worth it trust me.

[–]PolukranosWordEater2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I worked in a bar I knew a few girls who would goad guys into hitting on them just to see if their boyfriends would fight them. Those are dangerous shit tests that you should immediately leave the woman if you suspect she does that.

You don't want to be the guy that fights in those situations cause if anything she will keep on pushing. One couple I saw the girlfriend kept trying to get him to fight and make him jealous until he ran her and another guy over. It's gets out of hand very fast.

[–]Scabsandwhich5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a fuck approach :p I'm short too. I can take or leave her. If shes pretty enough, ofc other guys are gonna hit on her. Fortunately theres a million other ladies to go hit on as well. Dread game and DAGF approach. Never the end of the world.

[–]beachbbqlover4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My trick was to laugh at him and just gesture for her to say her response.

Of the three times this has happened to me so far, not once have I successfully been poached.

[–]schoolboy__5 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Hey what if I feel like I’m not interesting enough and the guy is really interesting?

Also what if the guy knows me and tries to flirt with her? Do I do the same? Ignore a friend?

Sorry new to this.

[–]1ForeverKarlMalone[S] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If it’s your friend and you’re competing for the same girl, that’s not optimal. Optimally, you approach pairs of girls together and be each other’s wingman.

If you’re not interesting enough, feel free to memorize a few routines and scripts to start out with. Everyone needs to start somewhere

[–]schoolboy__2 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Will I’ll just give you an example, I’m talking to a girl in school and it’s just her. He just happens to see me and I shake his hand. Then he tries to talk to her.

[–]1ForeverKarlMalone[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Talk to your friend and tell him it’s better to work together to approach sets of 2 or more girls instead of competing for the same girl. If he doesn’t want to then he’s not your friend as well as a dumb person

[–]Scabsandwhich2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're probably pedestalising her. Have you fucked yet? Lol just kidding, but seriously, who cares. I'm sure you're not the only guys talking to her. Is he a good hommie of yours or just an acquaintance? Competition is a thing, and you've got to be number 1 if you're going to win against the odds.

[–]schoolboy__3 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

He is just an acquaintance. Yeah I kinda don’t like being competitive. Also I don’t really care much but I do get ‘envious’ (not sure if it’s the right word) that makes me feel a little mad. It just hurts because I’m too nervous around her. I guess I am putting her on a pedestal and haven’t tried moving things forward. I have had other girls tell me that I play hard to get when I’m just really nervous lol.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Approach more girls then, to get rid of your nervousness. Practice makes perfect.

[–]pianovirgin695 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls care about power - not goodness or badness

"There is no good or evil - there is only power, and those too weak to seek to take it." - Voldemort

[–]DrinkBloodWithAStraw3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember in one of the RSD programs that I downloaded (legally ofc haha) , there was a long infield compilation where RSD Julien and Tyler would try to steal each other's girl. And interestingly, the few infields where Tyler would be reactive to Julien trying to steal his girl, Julien would be successful in doing so. The key would be to remain grounded and unreactive.

I can't find the name of the program, but if you search through the contents of juliens old programs I think you may find it.

[–]cydestiny7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing that is even brutally effective is that stop licking the side bar or Rollo's book, get out there, try things out.

Don't just learn game, optimize the shit out of your game.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Also to OP, your title reads like an ad I'd see on a porn site(not that I've ever visited one).

Phrases such as "brutally effective" are more used up than Kim Kardashian.

I like the content, however.

[–]Trp272727221 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, it got me to click.

I’m a sucker for clickbait, and it was a good read, so I don’t mind.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He got me too, I suspect it's because we're more inclined to read red pill material.

I critiqued it so OP will keep this in mind if he writes for a more alien audience

[–]armenian_UwUcide0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You clicked the article too, didn’t you? Keywords are cliché, and you can say they’re cheesy, but yet here we are.

[–]L1amas6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is RP 101... It's the girl's job to swat snakers away, not yours. If she's not taking that responsibility, then you've done something wrong.

[–]1319Skew3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every so often there some good posts here. Thanks for the info OP

[–]the-victim1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm, What if the girl is social & friendly and feels bad ignoring the 3rd person? It has happened to me. I felt it was natural to approach the situation exactly how you mentioned. Ignore and make him appear socially immature for approaching us uninvited.
That's until the girl started making conversation with both of us.. and at some point I was just sat looking thinking to myself wtf?

[–]Skyrailmaxima0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

In a situation like that Its best for you to make an exit. Shes not interested in you and is now going to get competitive validation from two guys. Think about the inverse- talking to two girls whom are both interested makes them more competitive and willing to escilate. (That is how 3 ways happen generally between girls whom are friends/know each other getting competitive over sexual prospect escilation) for women that parrallel of outcome is being showered by attention/validation with no sunk cost.

If you want your best prospects to come out cash out with an excuse 'im going to get some air' and make it exclusive while not asking how she feels 'youre invited to accompany me'. If she is even marginally more invested you won a free second location extraction - if not there are plenty more women out there.

[–]the-victim1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank for this! That is exactly what I did, I decided to remove myself from the conversation as if I didn’t care and I had no time for games. I knew she had mild feelings for me and I guess by removing myself showed weakness. She ended up spending most of the night next to that guy and ignoring me... they ended up kissing and the next day she probably had regrets and said that she loved me..fucked up right?

[–]Skyrailmaxima0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I probably would find it best to file under awalt. She wants you to be an orbiter like I'm sure that you want plates. She just came with the bio-software to be manipulative preloaded, and you can pick and choose what traits, good, bad, both - you want to express. I suppose you can consider what that would do to some poor blue pill chap, not good. At the end of the day though it serves a good data point on what their general strategy looks like. Good bullet dodge.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your girl? Ug... She isn't yours. She's a warm, pleasant hole for your cock--maybe. Anything else is eternally up in the air.

[–]19abto3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You. Are. A. Genius.

Such simple advice, yet makes pure logical sense.

Thanks for sharing.

[–]chloebrowne3 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Tell the guy "excuse me we're in the middle of something"

or

Laugh and tell the girl "lets go somewhere quieter"

[–]Praeda182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100% this. It’s never worth the potential escalation, not is it worth entertaining other prospects for your girl. It’s already (realistically) a temporary arrangement, why expedite the process?

[–]justgotalpha1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Let me ask you something? How tall are you ? Do you even lift? Maybe you dont look tough enough ! Im 5’6 7ish on TRT AND BUFF i COMMAND RESPECT EVEN FROM TALLER DUDES! If you look like a little bitch they will try to test you . THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BECAUSE IL INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THEM MAKE A JOKE AND THEN TELL THEM IM SPITTING SOME GAME TO THE GIRL AND EMBARRASS THEM BY MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE A COCKBLOCKER.

[–]1Sir_Distic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your capslock button is stuck.

[–]justgotalpha1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yup it got stuck on purpose so that these beta bitches can finally get it!

[–]1Sir_Distic1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Riiiiiiigght. So you're the big bad Alpha?

[–]justgotalpha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im not saying im the biggest baddest alpha. All im saying is that alot of guys in here havent really internalized TRP principles. Like if OP is saying it happens to him in EVERY SETTING! Than he has a problem going on that he has not fixed. If bigger guys come to interrupt you is because they do not see you as a THREAT PERIOD. Once i started hitting the gym hard , working on my goals, social skills and improving my presence this has not happened. Note that some women will also do this as a shit test inviting other guys to join the conversation ( i know weird shit test but it happens) you pass it by introducing yourself and being in the moment showing that you dont care.

[–]TXJohn830 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

seems like it would work, now for COVID to end and the bars to open...

[–]Andgelyo1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Covid is gonna be here for a while, especially if you live in America lol

[–]PRW63-5 points-4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

America is open for business. It is just local city/county authorities getting in the way,...and some business run by larger Corp entities run by paranoid Execs. Most of us think it is all BS and just do what we want. Except for the mega-cities (that many people are trying to escape from) all the bars, clubs, outdoor concerts are open and chugging along. In one area I hang out in all I have to do is cross to the other side of the river (county border) and everything is fine. Businesses that try to force restrictions we just don't give them our money and go elsewhere.

[–]Andgelyo1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lmao I actually almost died from Covid, had pneumonia and was out of work for a month, and I’m a healthcare worker. I can’t wait until dumb assess like you get hit hard with that shit.

[–]PRW630 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

had pneumonia and was out of work for a month

Then you almost died of pneumonia, not Covid. Then be responsible as a healthcare worker and get the pneumonia vaccination as I have,...there are two of them. They last 10 years.

It's an anonymous forum,..for all you know I'm a doctor and out-rank you.

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know you’re not a doctor, a doctor wouldn’t dare say that shit ever. All the doctors I know wear masks until their skin peels off.

[–]PRW630 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it will help you to figure out the vaccine, here are the two pneumococcal vaccines

  1. PCV13 or Prevnar 13. It protects against 13 of the most common bacteria that cause pneumonia

  2. PPSV23 or Pneumovax23. It protects against 23 other remaining ones.

The way it works is that when you catch a flu virus it prevents it from progressing into pneumonia which is what normally kills.

As far as doctors wearing the mask till their skin peels, that makes me wonder what level of healthcare worker you are. The doctor I was with yesterday carries one and only puts it on in a relevant situation. The doctor I was with the last several Thursdays does the same except last Thursday where she didn't carry one at all (or at least I never saw it). This doctor (Centers for Advanced Medicine) at the following link only wears one in the proper context and gives the science behind why a mask should never be worn continuously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5lQHYyzZc

[–]Irene_90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen to this gospel of the Red Pill. Bless you brother for sharing this wisdom with us. A man who upholds such a frame is indeed like a king.

[–]Huskydawg20200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Best strategy is to not have one, but a rotation of replacables, in the first place lmfao😂

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For me what you've done is the peak of true "game". Sure know some of the fundamental theory of day game and night game but use your experience to mold and better yourself.

[–]Bobbybouche15010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You had my attention at "this happens more to shorter guys" and you lost it at " for this you will need actual social skills" but all that stuff in the middle is gold 👌 good Post.

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1, ignoring low status male’s attention is incredibly effective. It makes your status to the girl that much higher. I don’t do clubbing or partying anymore, but this is good advice.

[–]KillaJewels0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya dude, ignoring is the way to go. It's so effective. I've had duos and trios of dudes tryna interrupt my set many times. I completely ignore like they're not even there and keep my set's focus on me and what I'm showing her.

She sees you are confident in that way. It turns her on like crazy. I actually LOVE it when someone tries to interrupt my set, because it's an opportunity to build attraction

And if she's for the streets and is about the bullshit, you just ignore HER and exit the set. Most of the time, she'll come back to you pretty quick like a little puppy.

[–]bigbuckteeth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m 6’3” and get guys trying to steal the girl I’m flirting with all the time just like you described. It’s just how the game works. Good post though! Ignoring the guy definitely works

[–]KiloVelo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once I asked a guy doing that "are you gonna follow me around all night?" seemed to work well.

[–]Giant-__-Otter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember that once she is at plate or over status, it's her job to shut that guy down.

[–]SeasonedRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This has happened to me maybe a couple of times. I agree with the commenters who say to ignore and not react with anger, but also, consider what kind of aura you are giving off such that someone would do this in the first place. I'm not being critical, so don't take it that way. In my experience anyway, predators look for easy prey. Don't appear to be easy prey.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

good strat. I usually go with something like "awww looks like you found a puppy" or "looks like someone has a crush on you", something like that.

[–]ArcangeloPT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is awesome! Thanks my guy

[–]fuckmingaseatpingas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post, these are defs the tactics to employ if the girl’s just a plate or whatever, but if she’s your mrs you gotta kick off 100%

[–]Tzar_930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What’s funny is, in these situations I tend to just stay for like a minute, anything longer than that I ask for the girls contact details and then move onto another.

Sometimes the girl will end up right back with me, we bump into each other again or I contact her the next day and it all fizzles out.

Sometimes the girl will like to try and keep me and the other guy there for as much attention as she can then probably end up getting scooped by another dude.

Whenever I get interrupted by another guy, I take it as a test for the girl for how attracted she is to me. I throw her away and if she fancies me enough she’ll make her way right back to me. If not meh

I’ll grab another.

[–]Jcorb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So, this reminds me of a situation that happened to me a couple of years ago at a party, and it still haunts me to this day, never quit being sure how I should've reacted.

I was talking to these two girls (twins), and I think one other person. A guy walks up next to me, and is clearly trying to peak around me to talk to the girl closest to me; it looks like they know each other, so I kind of step back a bit, to welcome him into the "circle" we'd kind of formed.

But when I do that, he just steps in front of me, talking directly to the girl, physically cutting me out of the space.

I literally glanced around, like "the fuck? did anyone else see this shit?", but everyone else was caught up in their own conversations. At this point, I didn't see any way to get re-involved in the conversation, because he was standing closer and talking quietly enough I couldn't hear, so I just walked away and talking to my buddy.

I kept thinking that, in hindsight, when he started to step in front of me, I should've just calmly -- but firmly -- placed a hand on his shoulder and nudge him back to him spot in the circle.

I've wondered if something like that would be too aggressive, but then part of me also thinks it's sort of the perfect power-move; you don't even have to say anything and can continue the conversation as normal, but it ensures he knows that he knows he's in your space.

But then, who knows? The situation has never happened again, though it definitely killed the momentum I felt like I'd had with the one sister.

[–]Xxhennyhendrixx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to relax and let her choose.

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

instructions on how to prevent a guy from stealing YOUR girl?

iow, bc you approached first, you're first in line to be refused/rejected, and she has no say in the matter. lmmfao.

she's not your girl... you're up for consideration. and if you get the pussy, it's not your pussy, it's just your turn to get it. if she's attracted, she's not going anywhere. if another guy approaches and she walks off or ignores you, oh well... get better.

instead, value yourself and have the confidence to approach, inquire, and move on... and LET HER COME (BACK) TO YOU.

desperate chasing is desperate.

this sounds like the guy who wants to beat up the UPS driver because his wife ALLOWED the UPS driver to fuck her.

[–]Highroller42420 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao, a day in the life of the asiatic manlet.

[–]CAPIreland0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the short term, yes, this works. If it's a slightly longer term, it does not. I had a plate whose male housemate took a massive dislike to me. I'd sometimes order some food to hers, and we'd watch something/play something in the sitting room. The housemate (clearly very into her), would always tell her that he thought I was using her, or was manipulative, etc etc. She'd tell me, and I'd not really react. She'd always also ask me that day what I thought of him, and I always chose my words carefully: ''He's a very sweet guy, I think.'' or ''I don't think we quite get on, but that's ok, I can see he's a decent guy anyways.'' So, from my end, not really engaging in the ''fight'', because why would I? After about 3 months of this, I began to see her change her act towards me. She'd not tell me what he'd said, but she began using his words. If I left after sex, she'd say in a text ''I don't like it when you use me''. If I was being nice to her, she'd get cold and ask me if I was trying to manipulate her. I got bored, and just never went back.

Lesson: Yes, in the short term, ignoring an attack shows that you are above it. It's a drop of water hitting stone. But if you let it go on and on and on, and continue to ignore it, slowly the water cuts through the stone.

In the long term, you just have to change the game. Catch them off guard, and put them on the back foot. Make them say stuff you know they whisper behind your back to your face, in a situation where doing show makes them look small.

[–]mydogfartzwithz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha this works until the girl happens to be low value and looks at the guy

[–]ReservoirHemly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did what you mentioned every now and again and it works. It really depends on the situation as well. There is no be all end all tactic like someone mentioned on here. There were times where it made me look like a weirdo with no social skills when I would ignore the guy especially when the girl expects me to shoo him away.

There was a tactic I would use where if a dude would come up and try to interrupt and I would motion him to the girl and say ,

"Oh, give it your best shot, go ahead".

Most guys would freeze since they never expect it or of he did attempt it would be weird. The only time it failed was when a dude had the balls to go ahead and make out with the girl right after I said that. Bruh I was shook! It only happened once but it could happen again.

Just goes to show you kind of have to read the situation and find out what works for each setting. Nothing is 100% garunteed.

[–]heretherenowthen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good post but why in the living hell would you ever say “You... get the fuck out of here now! Or I’ll fucking murder you!” I can't even comprehend why you'd even think that'd be okay. I guess you realize that that's wrong judging from your post though.

[–]uwey-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

No women ever worth more than you win a bro.

No need to fear god like enemies, but you do need to worry about moronic teammates.

Gain a male pal is > lose a gal. Girl is plenty, a competent confidant is far more valuable.

Know when the situation flip. Know women will never worth your time in long run. Only women worth your time is not beauty instead the connection (her family) and political power.

[–]ASTRA-LUX1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

a competent confidant is far more valuable

What's to value in some scumbag trying to steal your woman?

Weak as fuck frame you got there, pal.

[–]uwey-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You clearly never experienced “don’t fuck with wrong person” rule.

Let’s say you get to invite to a party and cause a fuzz with the someone powerful, you would think your strong frame help you at all.

Prepare get your life fucked if you actually insulting a wrong person.

Ego like this, get you fucked. Any women is never worth your time, I am willing to give them away, especially plate. Only women worth defending is to not put them in that situation.

Guys have that much ego must trend carefully.

[–]throwaway-aa2-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I finally discovered the secret after I tried to interrupt another dude’s set and steal his girl.

So you’re tired of other men interrupting your sets but you’re cool interrupting others? Explain that one for me.

[–]DudeManLion-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool stuff I'll have to try it

[–]whataccent-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great concise post. Wish I had this in the past before I stopped trying.

Bonus points if you can suggest what to do if a guy gets in your face. Once I was at an outdoor festival and struck up conversation with a female college acquaintance. No subtext. I was literally catching up with no intention on following up. Her date comes over and gets in my face. He's this smarmy looking dude in dress attire. I might've dropped him on principle these days, but police were arresting people already.

Long story short, how do you react when a guy flexes on you?

[–]macrian-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I fully agree about what you said, and the same with people that actuualy know the girl. Sometimes I am out with my LTR, random people can come up to her. Guys, or girls, that she knows. Friends, coworkers, wtvr. I always reply to them or get in the convo. e.g. this one guy, we met once, in the "what's new" question, he started talking about his dog being injured by a car etc etc and I automatically took control of the conversation, asking questions about the dog's well being etc. Guy stopped talking to my girl and started talking to me instead. He was actively trying to get sympathy points from my LTR, got sidetracked by me, and left

[–]Legatti-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Buddy, if a man tries to “steal yo girl”, and she’s into it? Chances are, she was never that into you anyways. She’s a human being and if she wants to leave she can, otherwise that isn’t a relationship.

[–]Ray_Poward-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

he ignored you because you were short, and he didn't see threat in you. that's all.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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