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No One Would Have Died If PUAHate Killer Elliot Rodger Learned Game

Roosh Valizadeh
May 25, 2014

On Friday, May 23, Elliot Rodger killed six people because he was frustrated and angry from not being able to experience intimacy with women. He left a trail of Youtube videos, internet postings, and even a manifesto that clearly details how his sexual frustration was the principal reason for his murderous rampage.

Six lives would have been saved if there was a societal mechanism to steer sexually frustrated males like Rodger into learning self-improvement, game, and masculinity, the very values that are taught here and on many other manosphere sites that inexplicably have been attacked, disparaged, and even sought for eradication by the American media and blogosphere, men’s rights activists, “PUA haters”, and progressive organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center. All these groups are complicit for creating a cultural environment that allowed this massacre to occur. It is them who must accept responsibility for these seven deaths and make the moral change to their ideologies in order to prevent such an act from happening again.

It’s important to state that Elliot Rodger was undoubtedly mentally unstable and required professional supervision. Diagnosed with Asperger’s, he clearly exhibited narcissistic and sociopathic traits that no doubt prevented him from empathizing with others. Nonetheless, his videos and writings do display an above-average intelligence and the propensity to connect with individuals in certain cases. He was not that much worse off than many socially awkward males who grew up isolated as teenagers, unable to perform well in social interactions. I’ve personally interacted with men who functioned lower than him, but were later able to successfully meet average-looking women and achieve intimacy with them.

Rodger’s manifesto clearly states that his utter failure with women drove him to murder. The problem that he experienced is not unique—many men in Western society graduate from high school or college to realize that they have absolutely no skill or ability to seduce the opposite sex. We live in a society where being shy, normal, or a little awkward is duly punished by entitled American women who have been encouraged to pursue exciting and fun casual sex in their prime with sexy and hot men as a way of “experimentation.” They are enabled by the culture to seek out bad boys while rejecting the nice guy who is “boring.” This behavior continues until they find that they are past their physical prime, whereby the nice guy is plucked from a spartan sexual existence and expected to keep his mouth shut when a trickle flow of informational torture reveals that his bride-to-be has experienced more than a dozen different penises in her vagina, anus, and mouth—the same mouth that is supposed to kiss his future children good night.

The choices presented to Rodger

What options does a man like Rodger have if his existing social ability is simply not able to attract the women he wants? What should he do to enter a relationship with a reasonably attractive girl who has not yet had dozens of penises inside her, who is sweet and kind instead of bitter and jaded from becoming a professional attention whore on Facebook, Tinder, and OK Cupid via the iPhone that she’s addicted to? It depends on who you ask. Here are the answers that Rodger either received or could have received:

His university

Rodger should have checked his male privilege at the door and atoned for the sins of thousands of years of “male patriarchy.” He was likely exposed to infantile “trigger warnings” during the course of his education. He received direct propaganda that insinuates all men are potential rapists. American universities are becoming firmly anti-male with their extreme left ideology and policies. Just recently, the Justice Department has ushered in directives that attempt to restrict the definition of consensual sex, making any attempt by Rodger to fornicate with a female at a college party a potential rape encounter that would have gotten him kicked out of school without a trial. Pro-female policies now dominate most American universities. Rodger would definitely not have received a sympathetic ear to his plight.

American media and organizations

They have been telling him for years that he’s a sexist creep without even knowing it, and that only feminism, the promotion of female needs above men, is the true path to “equality.” Before he would even find a useful resource that helps him learn how to meet women, he would have been exposed to endless articles demonizing those resources as racist, misogynist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and cis-normative (whatever that means). Think I’m exaggerating? Here are some examples:

The amount of negative publicity written about Return Of Kings, me, game, and the manosphere in general seems endless if you spend just a bit of time on Google and Twitter. It’s clear that any mention of game in the mainstream sources that Rodger would definitely have been exposed to (the sites above receive millions of unique visitors every month) clearly shows that he would have been inclined to develop a negative opinion of game before fully knowing what it’s about. It appears that a goal of many popular publications is to inoculate and brainwash men like Rodger into believing game is actually equivalent to rape.

PUA Hate and Men’s Rights Activists

Would Rodger have received help for his loneliness if he found MRA’s and PUA haters? Definitely not. MRA’s would simply sit him down and detail how male circumcision and male rape by women are the most pressing concerns of men today. They would have given him absolutely no aid on solving his loneliness problem, advocating for him to instead become a victim.

PUA haters, best exemplified by the forum PUAhate.com, are even more dangerous. As an active member of this site, Rodger was surrounded by a community of men who nurtured and cultivated his hate. These men don’t believe in game and instead think the only path to a healthy sex life is to be rich and good looking, two beliefs that Rodger actively believed. It is through PUA Hate where he was able to meet other virgins and mentally unstable men to provide him with comfort while encouraging his budding hatred not just against women for serving him rejections—something that pro-game advocates accept as normal—but also society as a whole for not giving him what he believed he deserved. To give you an idea how twisted the members of PUAHate are, his rampage was actually praised. There are not many sites on the internet where someone is lauded as a hero for killing others, but PUAHate is one of them:

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PUA Hate suddenly went offline, but we must wonder if Rodger used the site to privately communicate with other men to actively plan out the killings, and if more of them are in the works. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out in the future that the site’s owner destroyed evidence that showed how Rodger’s PUA Hate friends knew of his intentions.

His parents, psychologists, and professors

They also did not provide Rodger with useful answers. His parents were aloof and his father never taught him how to be good with women (the manifesto details how supplicative his father was to Rodger’s stepmother). His psychiatrists likely wanted to pump him with meds to zombify him, maybe even trying to label his frustration with women as latent misogyny. His professors would push the leftist dogma where men are the source of all societal problems. He should humble himself, they’d prescribe, to others who don’t have as much inherent “privilege” as himself.

Return Of Kings, The Red Pill, RVF, myself

If Rodger came to me, he would have received actionable and effective advice. He would have been exposed to material detailing how socially corrupt American society has become, and how being a beta male provider—his principal strategy in trying to get laid—is no longer useful in achieving intimacy with women who now see men as entertaining clowns that should provide them with excitement, drama, and tension. After these truths would be painfully delivered to Rodger, he would have to make the personal choice to accept them or not, but based on his intelligence level, I have little doubt that he would, as it would match what he saw on campus with what he termed “obnoxious” (i.e. “alpha”) men getting the girls he wanted.

After digesting the red pill (our sphere’s metaphor for truth), he would start his game training. I’ve clearly laid out a program that has helped thousands of men who were in almost the exact same situation as Rodger. There is no evidence that Rodger executed even basic game theory. We can’t say for sure if he would have been a good student of the game or achieved high success from using it, because his mental illness no doubt affected his faculties, but the bar to success for him was low. According to his manifesto, all he wanted was a date. As in… one date. Take a look at his own words:

I was hoping I would get some sort of answer from girls [from posting my Youtube videos]. IN fact, a small part of me was even hoping that a girl would see the video and contact me to give me a chance to go on a date. That alone would have prevented the Day of Retribution, if one girl had just given me one chance. But no…As expected, I got absolutely no response from any girls. […] Women don’t care about me at all. They won’t even deign to tell my why they’ve mistreated me. This just shows how evil and sadistic they are. Oh well, they will realize the gravity of their crimes when I slaughter them all on the Day of Retribution.

Would the teachings that this part of the internet offer give him that one date? Would the advice of the men on RVF have given him the encouragement, motivation, and support to stop wallowing in self-pity and grandeur to approach women with the game that women today want? The answer is yes. I firmly believe that we would have given him his date, and it’s this date that would have quieted his deranged propensity to kill, or at least postponed it until an intervention could have occurred. Only game and red pill truths would have been sufficient in changing this deadly outcome. Everyone else, from his parents to his university and especially to the media he may have consumed, absolutely failed to help him in a way that we definitely could have.

Even after the killings, the media is parading out the phantom spirit of misogyny, perpetuating a tired cycle of shaming men in the name of protecting women, even though Rodger killed more men than women.

Who cares about the males that Rodger killed, because, like, misogyny! The disregard for any concern for men, including the ones killed by Rodger, means that more men will churn through this toxic anti-male culture, maybe one day deciding that killing is also their only option for deliverance.

I was not in a different boat than Rodger

I know Rodger would have been helped because I experienced much of what he did. I was lonely and lacking in female affection, but this was way back in 2001, before game was treated as the devil it is today. There was no cultural barrier for me to learn its principles. There was no PUA Hate that would’ve allowed me to connect with other bitter, demented, and possibly criminal men. There was no Buzzfeed (everyday sexism!) and Huffington Post (homosexuality is great!) to brainwash me into thinking that approaching women and having masculine sexual desire is sexist or misogynist, or that I must embrace a pro-homosexual lifestyle and the needs of gays over my own. There was no institutional formula in attacking what I learned and what thankfully gave me the intimacy I desired.

Seven people are dead because society has decided that shy and awkward men like Elliot Rodger do not deserve a girlfriend and that there is absolutely no way to improve his loneliness and loserdom through learning game or any other social behavior. At the same time men like him are ostracized, there is no legal means for him to solicit prostitution (in California) to release his biological and very pressing urge for fornication. Current cultural dogma wants to sweep the millions of lonely men like Rodger under the rug while instead  focusing on gay marriage, “street harassment,” lack of empowered girls in video games, “rape culture,” and the horrors of letting young girls wear pink and play with dolls.

The new “let them eat cake” is “let these socially awkward privileged losers have xbox and pornhub.” Yet we still feign outrage and surprise when every so often one of them picks up a gun and starts shooting. The same people who attack game refuse to give men like Rodger a way to achieve sexual happiness, and for that they are indirectly responsible for these deaths, which could have been avoided if Rodger was steered into game and not shamed for it.

More people will die unless you give men sexual options

Until you give men like Rodger a way to have sex, either by encouraging them to learn game, seek out a Thai wife, or engage in legalized prostitution—three things that the American media and cultural elite venomously attack, it’s inevitable for another massacre to occur. Even game itself, as useful as it is on an individual level, is a band-aid fix upon a culture which has stopped rewarding nice guys while encouraging female whoring to benefit only the top 10% of alpha males, all in the name of societal progress. Game is a tiny release valve on a cultural pressure cooker where meaningful relationships have become sick, fractured, and unfulfilling compared to the time of our grandparents when traditional sex roles existed. Game may not have led Rodger to find his dream girl and live happily ever after, but it would have given enough results to stop him from killing six innocent individuals and himself. Until you allow and encourage all men to get sex by some means, these massacres will be more commonplace as America’s cultural decline continues.

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Title No One Would Have Died If PUAHate Killer Elliot Rodger Learned Game
Author Roosh Valizadeh
Date May 25, 2014 4:30 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Blog Return of Kings
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