What does TRP have to say about academic overachievers?

lulckygas · 2014-04-25T11:26:59+00:00

Exams and deadlines are coming up man, you CANNOT let yourself down now. Getting a good degree and good job is an attractive quality and you will regret it so much if you fuck up. Work on other qualities in summer after your exams if you don't have the time now.

KyfhoMyoba · 2014-04-25T11:19:36+00:00

you are making excuses. Continue achieving excellence in academia. Add (NOT REPLACE) to it some alpha behaviors. Plan it out, do so methodically. Start with learning to approach. Baby steps. DO NOT GIVE UP BETA PROVISIONING. Keep it, and add the alpha.

Stayinghereforreal · 2014-04-25T12:18:18+00:00

I always overachieved academically

Good work!

to cover up massive holes in my personal life.

Work on that, because you are making excuses.

Amazingly, some guys can actually have sex, and get good grades. Shocking!

In fact, some guys sitting atop the GPA pile of their tier 1 research university can even have a smoking hot, DTF-any-time cheerleader/gymnast girlfriend who herself dual majors in Chemistry/Physics with a nose-bleed-high gpa.

Trust me. There are men who lived that life. So quit making excuses.

shua2189 · 2014-04-25T11:38:21+00:00

The semester is nearly over, press onward.

I regret taking the easy route and getting a business degree.

Would your grades suffer if you replaced one hour of study with one hour of exercise?

theozoph · 2014-04-25T12:59:53+00:00

Before I had this dumb fantasy that I was going to meet a princess eventually.. and all I had to do was to study like a fucking dog to get it.

Then you had the wrong motivation. Studying STEM should have been a matter of interest for the matter, and/or a goal of having a valuable degree to further your career.

Never make women your mission.

Women string along on your mission, but they aren't it. Your mission is to become the best you you can be, not to bang as many women as you can.

Don't get me wrong, when women find you attractive, that is the sign that you have achieved a valuable life and a good frame of mind (inner game). But fucking women isn't what make you valuable, being valuable is what allows you to fuck women.

You can fake it for a time, but being a 50 y.o bartender must suck bags of dicks. So don't fake having value with PUA tricks, just achieve real value for yourself.

It's basically short-term vs. long-term strategy : be a bad boy now and fuck bitches, or work on yourself in your twenties, learn Game, build your physique and assets, and reap the reward for the rest of your life.

Don't short-change yourself because you're a thirsty motherfucker. Go into monk mode, build your career, your physique and general SMV, use your twenties to learn the ropes, and you'll cash it in later. Learn to prioritize and remember : a woman should never be your priority.

Peace.

RedPillDad · 2014-04-25T12:46:02+00:00

I can't bring myself to study with the same intensity that I had before.

RP truth can feel disempowering at first, like a punch to the gut. But you'll come back with renewed vigor, clarity and stronger purpose. Meanwhile, dabble in Game. Your RP advantage will be ruthless efficiency, as you learn to protect your increasingly valuable time.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T14:39:50+00:00

I think most people who get Red Pilled at an older age (post college) would look back and wish they had studied harder in high school and college. Remember, the #1 goal is improving yourself. Knowledge will be useful to your forever, fucking a few times doesn't do so much. Since you have "zero experience", I think you may be making the mistake of putting sex on a pedestal, thinking it would be the magic pill to infinite happiness. It's not.

You are playing the long game. You probably knew a long time ago that you would not get any payoff from studying hard until you got out of college. It's easy for your commitment to the strategy to waiver because you see other people having fun while you've been grinding away for years and you don't see the payoff yet. But let me confirm for you that the big payoff does exist. If you are a top student at a good university majoring in STEM, you will easily have a starting income of 2x median household income (the typical household has 2 working parents, both with maybe 10 years of work experience). Let that sink in for a second, you will be making 4x as much money as the average worker of ~10 years of experience when you first start working.

People in the upper-middle to upper class have low divorce rates, low infidelity, etc. Women in those classes have low obesity rates, far lower partner counts, have higher intelligence, and are far more physically attractive. The children are far more healthy and are much more likely to succeed in life. If you are not born into a family that is on the top, but you are on track to get there, it is pretty dumb not to do so.

We often talk about mistakes that women make, such as wasting their valuable youth riding the carousel. The same applies to men too. You can waste your youth chasing tail (and for many men, not catching any) when you should be acquiring knowledge, skills, and assets. If you are born into a lower income household and you were not gifted with genetics for really good looks, you will have to put a lot of time and effort into game in order to compete, as you have to make it to the top 20% of men in order to get good results, so people fall into the trap of using debt or ignoring studies to appear like a top 20% guy, when in reality they are leveraging their future away for temporary benefits. It's very analogous to how attractive young women could easily secure a long term future in the upper-middle class, but throw it away by riding the carousel and degrading herself.

You have set yourself up to enter the top 10% of men in income right at graduation. If you spend some time in the gym, you can easily get to the top 25% in terms of fitness. It doesn't even have to be that much time as most people don't take care of their bodies. Things are going to be very different after you graduate. It was for me. Play it smart bro, think about the long run.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T17:07:11+00:00

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[deleted] · 2014-04-25T11:03:06+00:00

Find balance in your life. To work and expand one part of your mind does not suit you as a man. Grow in all the ways that men grow. Physically, emotionally, mentally, socially, etc. You lost motivation because you were not doing it for yourself... or rather a self you no longer have. discover what you want and pursue it.

RPModulator · Fri Apr 25 12:00:26 2014 UTC

Well, at this point, it sounds like you are close to being finished, so, as long as you still want to do STEM stuff as a career, stay disciplined through graduation; that being said, I would think that you should definitely be able to keep doing some reading here. Once you can ease up on the studying a bit, then you will be in a position to switch your focus . . . :)

Good luck.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T13:20:33+00:00

There is no such thing as academic overachievers.

you sound like you have to much stress and some identity crisis

I wish I had the luxury to have one. I was a gifted kid up to highschool and tried to impress my peers by neglecting studying, becoming something I wasn't. etc.It ended with me loosing on both ends when at the end of highschool everyone just went away to other areas and I had nowhere to go to. well I failed highschool and have to go to UNI late and study like a dog to get to do what I want anyway.

you can't quite make up for the lack of social skills in your childhood. its a matter of parenting and talent. the reason is that your social skills are already developing as fast as they can, you can make up for lack of social experience later in life by learning the ways of people objectivly, but a teenager can't do this, esp given that his generation is new.

what you can do is set your expectations straight, but this too, is hard to do without proper parenting and environment. almost everyone does corrections and reinvents himself as he matures.

peaudecastor · 2014-04-25T14:07:08+00:00

Finish that degree with high praise my friend. You were right that being the best in your field has value. Just do it for yourself and not for a future unicorn.

Also, try to pursue some hobbies over the summer, get fit, make an improvised trip to nowhere.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T14:21:50+00:00

Don't quit now man. You've avoided the pitfalls that plague so many of today's youth (video games, drugs, low value women) and leave them with not only sub-par academic performance, but sub par life performance.

You never want to fail because you didn't work hard enough. Work your butt off.

Push hard through these last few weeks and destroy those exams like you know you can. Listening to some girl drone on about One Tree Hill isn't going to give you the satisfaction that this academic achievement will.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T15:14:49+00:00

If you're going to center your life decisions around your ability to have sex then you're bound to make bad decisions.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T15:21:32+00:00

you're kidding yourself if you think that you can't talk to girls and succeed in school at the same time. that's a big fat excuse you're using to procrastinate on getting started with your social life. it won't take any time out of your schedule to have lunch or dinner with another person. it won't take any time out of your schedule to sleep with someone.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T15:30:45+00:00

Especially in STEM, it'll pay off big time. Even if you're not the superficial type, having money will take off loads of stress, and will give you the time/freedom for any awesome adventures/activities you need to better yourself in any other aspects of life.

Gesnaught · 2014-04-25T15:59:42+00:00

This post and its comments came just when I needed it. Thanks op and RP community.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-04-25T16:30:14+00:00

Take your scholastic skills and drive and apply it to learning game and the Venusian Arts. First get through this year. Then I would consider taking a year off of school and work while studying game. Your life needs balance and a recharge before you forge ahead with your academics.

unmitigatedbadassery · 2014-04-25T16:50:42+00:00

I think you're making excuses here. A good degree will give you so much more than anything a woman can give you, now or in the future. And it's not like you have to choose between the two, you just have to wait a few weeks.

Think of it as a few long, tough weeks in the gym. Just man up and finish that shit. Make it your goal and don't let ANYTHING deter you. Also continue going to the actual gym during this period, it'll help you relax your brain and give you energy.

This is what I did when I was writing my thesis. And I aced that mofo. So I don't see why you can't.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T16:54:21+00:00

How will a girlfriend add any value to your life right now?

How much will your degree and a well-paying job add value to your life?

trpMilo · 2014-04-25T17:17:09+00:00

Dude, studying hard as fuck IS red pill. You're investing in yourself, girls will love you when you make a shit ton of money. Just don't become a beta provide for the wrong girl

FortunateBum · 2014-04-25T17:45:46+00:00

You're doing the right thing. Women like status. You're working hard to increase your status. Once you get to a certain level, women will be throwing themselves at you.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T18:43:40+00:00

there is no such thing as overachieving. its a word made up by losers and five for lifers(people that will have a five digit income forever) to make themselves feel good.

Chinny4daWinny · 2014-04-25T19:17:51+00:00

Forget about women right now. This is your life on the line. You need to work on your self improvement (what you're doing right now).

After you finish your studies you have 40+ more years to chase women.

Remember: you are the prize. Women swoon over a good man so work and make yourself a great man. Don't chase the women. Once you're done, they'll be chasing you.

icanteventhecat · 2014-04-25T19:49:02+00:00

Former academic overachiever here.

You're also assuming that you have to pick fun OR success at university. The truth is, you like most students, probably waste lots of time doing unproductive not-so-fun shit (like posting on TRP, sad but true!).

The truth is, if you're spending 10 hours per day studying, you're probably not actually studying 10 hours. How do I know? Because I've studied with the people who study 10 hours, and they did less than I did! Maybe I only got a B+ average at a top school, but I stressed out 1/3 as much as those who got A's. Also, no one gives a shit about my marks. Be conscious how you're spending time. Try the Pomodoro technique.

In my experience, the people who had the most fun (and fucks), got the most of university, and are generally the most successful outside school are the people who were involved in tons of campus activities (no social justice/feminism plz!). There's definitely a synergistic effect that will improve your academic performance. On top of that, this is the best way to meet women.

If you haven't already, join extracurriculars. Do co-ed intramurals, volunteer, join industry-related clubs, etc. Have that take up your free time. Do not waste your university experience overworking and fretting about women.

[deleted] · 2014-04-25T20:10:46+00:00

Princess? That is such a blue pill term. Your vision of dating is warped by movies/ romantic comedies.

medguy22 · 2014-04-25T21:40:26+00:00

This is male hamstering.

Dr_Acu1a · 2014-04-25T22:47:26+00:00

As an academic overachiever, I say overachievers fucking rock! Currently studying for Step 1 of medical boards and ignoring pretty much everyone in my social life. I told every single one of my friends, every girl that I'm trying to fuck, even my family, no one is more important than this exam. If they want my company they will have to wait.

Boards are a little bit more exaggerated than finals since it more or less can decide your career. The point is when you have important shit like that, no one else matters.

laere · 2014-04-26T00:48:04+00:00

Dude you're fucking 21. You're like a little fucking kid still. You have plenty of fucking time. Also take some time off studying and chill or something. Do you really have to study 10 hours a fucking day realistically?

HIMYM14 · 2014-04-26T23:49:14+00:00

There is no such thing as overachieving. The only people who say that are the bottom feeders trying to bring you down. Strive to be a boss in everything you do.

JohnGalt316 · 2014-04-25T13:10:34+00:00

that's just sad

are you indian or some third world conservative culture? maybe you can go to the 3rd world and pick up a nice wife

Invalidity · 2014-04-25T15:44:52+00:00

If you have truly adopted redpill principles, you would push yourself even further to get the best quality of women that you can get. Whether this is looks, personality, values, etc. TRP insists on self-improvement. Develop the foundations for a career. Improve one's own fitness. Pursue goals and passions outside of work. Become somebody whose value is beyond a job title.

Title	What does TRP have to say about academic overachievers?
Author	The_BitterTruth
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Date	April 25, 2014 10:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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