Dread level 4 Implementation

SteelSharpensSteel · 2018-10-26T01:12:34+00:00

Really, there are a number of problems here. You initiating too much, which turns into a codependent and validating behavior. You not resetting every day. You not getting over your anger. You not actually doing shit about building a life outside of your wife.

Here's dread 4 - Dread Level 4: Begin conditioning your availability to your wife with her treatment of you. Your are busy now. You don't have time for a sexually disinterested, annoying, or angry wife. Take up another cause if you need to. This is a great time to join a martial arts club. Read The Ironwood Collection of Alpha Moves by Ian Ironwood.

Before Dread 4, you need this: Learn to recognize and start passing Shit Tests. Begin building a strong, indefatigable frame where you are not affected by her sexual denials. Develop an action plan to improve the major areas of your life. Begin to build a life apart from your wife.

Look. You fantasizing about plates is well ahead of where you are. You are still needing the basics. Frame. STFU. Pass shit tests. Lose the anger. You mention this a few times in your post: "When this happens I also start to slide back into her frame. It’s really obvious. I’ve seen this cycle a couple of times."; and "building resentment and anger over a period of time"

Good on you for posting in OYS, and you're making progress, but people rarely are where they say they are.

You should review the basics on frame, ensure that is solid, then work your way up. Be attractive, don't be unattractive. Build a life outside of your wife.

Also:

man, I want a drink.

There are no answers here.

The_Litz · 2018-10-26T06:38:27+00:00

Reset, reset, reset. Every. Fucking. Day.

The entrepreneur gets out of bed each morning thinking he is homeless and today he must find shelter and food. Full reset. Even with a Rolls in the garage.

And here is the trick, after getting laid, you must ALSO reset! Resetting is not reserved for the day after getting shot down, you do it even after steamy hot pornstar sex.

I found I relax too much after sex and become complacent untill I want sex again and then want to do something about it. Dread drops and then picks up again. Keep dread level.

Work up to DL 5 and live there. For life.

Your plate idea is terrible. You are reacting to your wife's frame and want to punish her for not fucking you. Fuck plates because you want to have sex with a 6ft blonde Swede or a 4ft Pygmy, not out of revenge.

r_u_a_badfish2 · 2018-10-26T01:11:48+00:00

Hey thanks for sharing.

But, 2 fucking months and no sex? What are her reasons for this?

screechhater · 2018-10-26T02:09:36+00:00

Ya

It’s a viscous fucking cycle. But the key factor is you must stop basing your happiness on her willingness fuck or not.

Your life cannot and should not hang on her words.

Seriously. This is the key factor. The gym becomes your temple. Work all your frustrations out there. Operate other places cool, calm and collected.

For all I know she is some thick entitled HB 4 and you are 100 lbs overweight. So I ask you, what is the truth ?

You must seriously base your new reality on the principles here in the sidebar. X amount of years equals x amount of months

Two months without sex ? Are you seriously ok with this ?

Look. I’m going to crack it wide open. You are not attractive. Women will drop the fucking act of being too busy, the kids need me, etc with the right guy. That includes my LTR and me. Yes, it is infuriating. But it’s the nature of it. Embrace it.

Stoicism and not giving a fuck are your operating procedure now. But I caution you to not be the “dick”.

RedPillCoach · 2018-10-26T02:29:46+00:00

Dread level 4....spend significantly less time at home (I started already), make her a roommate and sparsely give some kino/affection and engagement. I tried in the past to full-on remove affection and that was retarded.

Yes removing all affection is retarded. Turning your wife into a roomate is also retarded. The idea is operant conditioning. Begin rewarding good behavior with time and attention and begin punishing bad behavior with the loss of your time and attention. Reset every day.

BobbyPeru · 2018-10-26T04:39:29+00:00

2 months? What? You’ve been at this a year?

You are either not doing any of the readings or lifting or your wife just plain hates you.

I think a year in, I was already having sex 2-3 times a week

RPWolf · 2018-10-26T17:14:14+00:00

I went 9 months with no sex at the beginning of my RP journey. Its in my history. It will NEVER happen again. That said, it was my fault for multiple reasons and I will list them.

1) When I thought I was attractive, I was still a fat fuck and physically weak.

2) My initiations were shit and it took me a long time to get out of my BP conditioning back rub initiations.

3) I wasnt resetting every morning.

4) I gave ultimatums and threats about sex. Ultimatums are for faggots.

5) My wife could smell the butthurt I said I didnt have a mile away, no matter how hard I smiled.

What changed:

1) I got fucking attractive. I got muscles, other women noticed and her friends and family made comments to her.

2) I fixed my initiations. I game my wife now. ALL THE TIME. I have fun with it. I neg her, tease her, call her a pervert at innocent commentts etc. Sometimes it doesnt lead to sex. When she understands it doesnt always lead to sex the pressure comes off and she realizes she can actually have fun with it. This takes practice and is not possible to do when you are seething in resentment.

3) Figure out how to reset. This was the hardest thing for me but you have to do it. I started telling myself when I would get up that I was upright, breathing and accomplishing my goals. Again if you carry butthurt into the next day you are just starting off the day 10 steps back.

4) Not sure if you do this but honestly I think you do. It doesnt work. AT. ALL. Its for faggots and I didnt realize this until I realized that you cannot control anyone but yourself and your reaction to others. Its pointless. An ultimatum is a desperate attempt to not do the work and hope you can threaten someone into an outcome. Actions not Words!! Nothing says fuck you more then not letting someone impact you. Move on with your day and accomplish your goals. Look, shes not stupid she knows you want to fuck. Hell, I bet she wants to fuck but not when you are walking around the house pissed off from a rejection 2 days earlier.

5) You have to get over the butthurt. Your wife can smell it a million miles away. As long as she can sense the butthurt she knows she still has you in her frame. This was the biggest thing for me. When I stopped giving a fuck she started responding.

Your situation isnt new or special. I will tell you what /u/man_in_the_world told/asked me that made the light bulb come on. Do you like your wife? If so then enjoy her company, enjoy her presence. Shes not yours, its just your turn. Actually enjoy your turn and shit will change. Or keep fucking initiating non-stop, get pissed for days, rinse and repeat and go no where. Your choice.

FoxShitNasty83 · 2018-10-26T07:59:28+00:00

Try this as a test, tell the wife your going out for a bit. She will ask where are you going.. you say out for a bit see you later. (Your an adult now she isn't your mum you don't have to tell mummy where your going not because it's rude but because it's none of her fucking business)

Go out to lift or a drive or have a pint in your local watering hole the (local ale is always a good start). It dosent matter. Take your time, try and relax for fuck sake, check out any hotties / village bikes that might be lurking and chat with the locals.

When you come back or even in between she is going to give you shit. Where have you been, who have you been with? Where!! (Hampster).

I have been out. STFU.

If it escalates leave the room, if it escalates still leave the house again so she can calm the fuck down. This is simple controlling behaviour and shit behaviour at that.

There is nothing wrong with a man going out and doing stuff either by himself or with others. You don't have to be with your wife and this is good for you. It's gets easier

bueller6626 · 2018-10-26T14:00:37+00:00

Ill give you my 2 cents since this is the only thing that worked for me. It doesn't matter how physically attractive you make your self or how assertive/aggressive you are if she feels that you are too HUNGRY. Your wife's behavior is UNATTRACTIVE. You should not feel like you want to fuck her if she is acting like a cunt. I feel like this is a huge shit test that everyone misses. Hitting on a harpy communicates neediness. You don't need her validation. Chat up your lady friends and hold onto those feelings when you go home.

As far as pulling away, don't make it obvious. Slowly withdraw your attention. If you are in fact an attractive male, she will approach you. Reciprocate when she does. You can try to give her a little less than she 'needs', but I find the correct amount of comfort and attention is the exact amount that she solicits, no more no less.

You really don't 'need' sex from your wife to be in state. Repeat this over and over in your mind if you must. She will test this. Im playing on God mode. My wife will grab my cock then shut me down. Be Cool and good luck.

IRunYourRiver · 2018-10-26T01:48:47+00:00

Spending less time at home means more time in gym lifting or martial arts. Double bonus.

As mentioned, doing a daily reset is key. Because that takes you out of her frame, if you were in it yesterday.

Leadership should generally be positive.. not brooding butt-hurt. The reset will make your outlook more positive. Some things you just have to IDGF about and move on.

Reach180 · 2018-10-26T12:40:58+00:00

My assessment is that the butt hurt factor when I get shot down is zero, but after a while (take now, 2 months no sex) I grow resentful and mean, I start not wanting to kino and show affection, because I don't really want to get cock blocked again.

How many times have you initiated sex in these 2 months? How do you go about it? Is it the tired reach over on the couch before you both head to bed after you've been watching TV for 2 hours?

Take today, I’m obviously annoyed I got turned down yesterday, and the sub-communication is terrible, petty fights, little shit tests I handle poorly, wife physically withdrawing from me.

So after a year, you haven't figured out DL1 yet.

adeptintact · 2018-11-04T06:24:13+00:00

Life is too short to be with a wife that won't have sex with you. Start having sex with the potential plates. Be ready to divorce if your wife finds out.

Title	Dread level 4 Implementation
Author	Jupi_ter
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Date	October 26, 2018 12:55 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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