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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i'm not married, but one of the nicest weddings i've been to was an elegant, understated garden party.
after the ceremony in a small church, we went into the church gardens where the couple had set up their own music, the parents were running a grill and dishing up beautiful home-made salads, and people just mingled and laughed into the night. no need to worry about transport, no professional photographer, a simple but lovely cake, the newlyweds and all their guests just seemed so relaxed and happy. they supplied beer, wine and champagne, which i imagine would have been the biggest expense for them, but otherwise i think it ran fairly cheap.
some people like all the pomp and ceremony, but for this couple simplicity was perfect.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sounds really nice, very comfortable and intimate. I love it!
[–]SuperSlavisWife 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Jon and I went for literally bare bones: a few relatives, a registry office, a night out of drinking and a meal together. We dressed up a bit and his brother snapped some pictures, but it was the most basic wedding it could be. And it was perfect. I would have hated to spend a few thousand on a single day and be surrounded by people who dislike each other and have the stress of planning an event like that. So it can literally be as simple as that, if that's what you want.
The wedding's not the important bit: the marriage is. Have as much or as little as you want and can afford, but at the end of the day the proof is in the pudding.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
aww that sounds so cute. that's what i want. I want to do courthouse and then a nice brunch or dinner.
The wedding's not the important bit: the marriage is
Absolutely - that's my thinking on it, as well. We're talking about a similar situation, courthouse wedding and small get-together afterwards.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I am not married (YET, I SHANT LOSE HOPE) but my friend told me that her coworker got married and spent less than $2000 total on the whole thing.
Ultimately, she paid about $1800 for her whole wedding and she had fun and it was memorable. I think she was a law school grad so I can't hate on her wanting to save that money for those loan repayments.
Things that I would want to maintain in my wedding would be 1) a hard budget. Women often want to go above and beyond for this one special day and I get the urge to do that, but it's not financially wise. You shouldn't go into debt for a single day event; 2) Small guest list. Maybe it's cuz i'm African and they can be FOOLISH about family events like weddings, but I don't want the headache; and 3) Affordable catering. My crew don't need third and fourth plates of nothin. If they that hungry, they can go across the street to IHOP unless they want to pitch in.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So did she just create a Facebook event or something? That seems super efficient, and I would totally be down with something like that if my SO is. Right now we're looking at a courthouse wedding (it's $35) but there's a really pretty park near the river that my coworker reminded me of and now I'm second-guessing that idea.
Beer and pizza though, that sounds ...right up our alley, hahaha. Catering and alcohol were my biggest concern, so the idea was to have it at a microbrewery his family is involved with because they tend to offer a ton of free beer. But pizza, pizza could work too.
[–]conotocaurius 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
alcohol
The best wedding I ever attended had a few kegs of beer (at around ~$100 each, maybe), wine from Trader Joes, and booze from Costco.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep! She invited all those she wanted, she was able to send updates, etc. Location info! I guess it was the quickest way to reach everyone!
I think they got a keg maybe? Idk. Considering everything, her wedding was virtually free.
[–]SSapplejackMid 20s, Married 3 years. 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We did real invitations (so our families could keep them) but did a FB group save the date. It also was a space for our guest to ask questions and perfect for us sharing info(Google map link to the location etc)
[–]lady_bakerEarly 30s, Married 8 years, together 10 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't have anything helpful - just wanted to congratulate you on marrying your man and being smart enough to keep the party small. Your memories and what you'll be reminiscing about in 40 years have nothing to do with stupid expensive flowers or trendy facilities - but you already know that!
We eloped. I'm really useless here. Good luck!
Thank you!
My best friend eloped too, it seemed so low-stress - I call it a pop-up wedding because we just kind of gathered in a public place, had the wedding, and then went down the road to a taproom where I'd arranged for them to be greeted with champagne.
[–]StingrayVC 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The best advice I can give you is to not stress out about it. Problems are going to arise and some people might have weird ideas or even insist on certain things. It's your wedding. You do what you two want and don't stress about what other people want. Don't stress about the small problems that come up. It's just a wedding and while it is important, it is not the most important. That is what comes afterward. It's the beginning of your marriage, not the only day.
This will come through to your guests and they will all be more relaxed and they will have a better time. It will be more genuine for everyone. I am always reminded of this scene from Little Women when I think about weddings:
Meg looked very like a rose herself, for all that was best and sweetest in heart and soul seemed to bloom into her face that day, making it fair and tender, with a charm more beautiful than beauty. Neither silk, lace, nor orange flowers would she have. I don't want a fashionable wedding, but only those about me whom I love, and to them I wish to look and be my familiar self. So she made her wedding gown herself, sewing into it the tender hopes and innocent romances of a girlish heart. her sisters braided up her pretty hair, and the only ornaments she wore were the lilies of the valley, which `her John' liked best of all the flowers that grew. You do look just like our own dear Meg, only so very sweet and lovely that I should hug you if it wouldn't crumple your dress, cried Amy, surveying her with delight when all was done. Then I am satisfied. But please hug and kiss me, everyone, and don't mind my dress. I want a great many crumples of this sort put into it today. And Meg opened her arms to her sisters, who clung about her with April faces for a minute, feeling that the new love had not changed the old.
Meg looked very like a rose herself, for all that was best and sweetest in heart and soul seemed to bloom into her face that day, making it fair and tender, with a charm more beautiful than beauty. Neither silk, lace, nor orange flowers would she have. I don't want a fashionable wedding, but only those about me whom I love, and to them I wish to look and be my familiar self.
So she made her wedding gown herself, sewing into it the tender hopes and innocent romances of a girlish heart. her sisters braided up her pretty hair, and the only ornaments she wore were the lilies of the valley, which `her John' liked best of all the flowers that grew.
You do look just like our own dear Meg, only so very sweet and lovely that I should hug you if it wouldn't crumple your dress, cried Amy, surveying her with delight when all was done.
Then I am satisfied. But please hug and kiss me, everyone, and don't mind my dress. I want a great many crumples of this sort put into it today. And Meg opened her arms to her sisters, who clung about her with April faces for a minute, feeling that the new love had not changed the old.
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There were to be no ceremonious performances, everything was to be as natural and homelike as possible, so when Aunt March arrived, she was scandalized to see the bride come running to welcome and lead her in, to find the bridegroom fastening up a garland that had fallen down, and to catch a glimpse of the paternal minister marching upstairs with a grave countenance and a wine bottle under each arm. Upon my word, here's a state of things! cried the old lady, taking the seat of honor prepared for her, and settling the folds of her lavender moire with a great rustle. You oughtn't to be seen till the last minute, child. I'm not a show, Aunty, and no one is coming to stare at me, to criticize my dress, or count the cost of my luncheon. I'm too happy to care what anyone says or thinks, and I'm going to have my little wedding just as I like it. John, dear, here's your hammer. And away went Meg to help `that man' in his highly improper employment. Mr. Brooke didn't even say, Thank you, but as he stooped for the unromantic tool, he kissed his little bride behind the folding door, with a look that made Aunt March whisk out her pocket handkerchief with a sudden dew in her sharp old eyes.
There were to be no ceremonious performances, everything was to be as natural and homelike as possible, so when Aunt March arrived, she was scandalized to see the bride come running to welcome and lead her in, to find the bridegroom fastening up a garland that had fallen down, and to catch a glimpse of the paternal minister marching upstairs with a grave countenance and a wine bottle under each arm.
Upon my word, here's a state of things! cried the old lady, taking the seat of honor prepared for her, and settling the folds of her lavender moire with a great rustle. You oughtn't to be seen till the last minute, child.
I'm not a show, Aunty, and no one is coming to stare at me, to criticize my dress, or count the cost of my luncheon. I'm too happy to care what anyone says or thinks, and I'm going to have my little wedding just as I like it. John, dear, here's your hammer. And away went Meg to help `that man' in his highly improper employment.
Mr. Brooke didn't even say, Thank you, but as he stooped for the unromantic tool, he kissed his little bride behind the folding door, with a look that made Aunt March whisk out her pocket handkerchief with a sudden dew in her sharp old eyes.
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There was no bridal procession, but a sudden silence fell upon the room as Mr. March and the young couple took their places under the green arch. Mother and sisters gathered close, as if loath to give Meg up. The fatherly voice broke more than once, which only seemed to make the service more beautiful and solemn. The bridegroom's hand trembled visibly, and no one heard his replies. But Meg looked straight up in her husband's eyes, and said, I will! with such tender trust in her own face and voice that her mother's heart rejoiced and Aunt March sniffed audibly. Jo did not cry, though she was very near it once, and was only saved from a demonstration by the consciousness that Laurie was staring fixedly at her, with a comical mixture of merriment and emotion in his wicked black eyes. Beth kept her face hidden on her mother's shoulder, but Amy stood like a graceful statue, with a most becoming ray of sunshine touching her white forehead and the flower in her hair. It wasn't at all the thing, I'm afraid, but the minute she was fairly married, Meg cried, The first kiss for Marmee! and turning, gave it with her heart on her lips. During the next fifteen minutes she looked more like a rose than ever, for everyone availed themselves of their privileges to the fullest extent, from Mr. Laurence to old Hannah, who, adorned with a headdress fearfully and wonderfully made, fell upon her in the hall, crying with a sob and a chuckle, Bless you, deary, a hundred times! The cake ain't hurt a mite, and everything looks lovely. Everybody cleared up after that, and said something brilliant, or tried to, which did just as well, for laughter is ready when hearts are light. There was no display of gifts, for they were already in the little house, nor was there an elaborate breakfast, but a plentiful lunch of cake and fruit, dressed with flowers. Mr. Laurence and Aunt March shrugged and smiled at one another when water, lemonade, and coffee were found to be to only sorts of nectar which the three Hebes carried around. No one said anything, till Laurie, who insisted on serving the bride, appeared before her, with a loaded salver in his hand and a puzzled expression on his face.
There was no bridal procession, but a sudden silence fell upon the room as Mr. March and the young couple took their places under the green arch. Mother and sisters gathered close, as if loath to give Meg up. The fatherly voice broke more than once, which only seemed to make the service more beautiful and solemn. The bridegroom's hand trembled visibly, and no one heard his replies. But Meg looked straight up in her husband's eyes, and said, I will! with such tender trust in her own face and voice that her mother's heart rejoiced and Aunt March sniffed audibly.
Jo did not cry, though she was very near it once, and was only saved from a demonstration by the consciousness that Laurie was staring fixedly at her, with a comical mixture of merriment and emotion in his wicked black eyes. Beth kept her face hidden on her mother's shoulder, but Amy stood like a graceful statue, with a most becoming ray of sunshine touching her white forehead and the flower in her hair.
It wasn't at all the thing, I'm afraid, but the minute she was fairly married, Meg cried, The first kiss for Marmee! and turning, gave it with her heart on her lips. During the next fifteen minutes she looked more like a rose than ever, for everyone availed themselves of their privileges to the fullest extent, from Mr. Laurence to old Hannah, who, adorned with a headdress fearfully and wonderfully made, fell upon her in the hall, crying with a sob and a chuckle, Bless you, deary, a hundred times! The cake ain't hurt a mite, and everything looks lovely.
Everybody cleared up after that, and said something brilliant, or tried to, which did just as well, for laughter is ready when hearts are light. There was no display of gifts, for they were already in the little house, nor was there an elaborate breakfast, but a plentiful lunch of cake and fruit, dressed with flowers. Mr. Laurence and Aunt March shrugged and smiled at one another when water, lemonade, and coffee were found to be to only sorts of nectar which the three Hebes carried around. No one said anything, till Laurie, who insisted on serving the bride, appeared before her, with a loaded salver in his hand and a puzzled expression on his face.
. . . .
That is the prettiest wedding I've been to for an age, Ned, and I don't see why, for there wasn't a bit of style about it, observed Mrs. Moffat to her husband, as they drove away.
That last bit is key. It is the marriage that matters and if you go into your wedding with that in your heart and mind, it will naturally come through into the wedding itself, not matter how much or how little you spend or do for that day.
I haven't thought about that book in ages, thank you for reminding me - that's a really beautiful line, too. I'm really happy so many are telling me that keeping it simple is okay, I think some big circus of a wedding would just be overwhelming and not enjoyed by either of us.
[–]sugarcrush 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We had a destination wedding. It was both small and cheap. We skipped out on a lot of the traditional things (no bridesmaids/groomsmen, didn't send out any formal invitations, no dj or dancing, etc.) but it was beautiful and everyone had a good time.
Pros: As stated above, cheap! I think everything wedding related cost maybe $5000, and that included some upgrades so it could have been as cheap as $1200 I think. Obviously we also paid for our room and what not but that doubled as the honeymoon. Speaking of which, starting your honeymoon before the wedding even begins is pretty awesome, lol.
100% stress free. Seriously. We just had to pick out the options we wanted and the wedding coordinator at the resort did everything.
Wedding was quick and low-key overall, which I liked because I didn't want to feel like some spectacle.
Cons: Not everyone will be able to go. We had about 20 guests, but I was totally prepared for it to just be us and our parents. Depending on your family, this may cause drama (mine was totally fine with it). Some people get weirdly judgy about destination weddings and insinuate that you must not really care about your family and friends and that you didn't try hard enough to have a real wedding.
Overall, I am extremely happy with our choice. I would like to have a larger anniversary party in the future where we celebrate with our new friends and everyone who couldn't make it.
My SO is vehemently against destination weddings because he doesn't want to inconvenience anyone, but that sounds so stress-free...
[–]sthuttonEarly 30s | Married 9 years, 11 years total 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's been a long time, but here's what I remember (and don't remember!)
Be chill. Stuff is going to go wrong. It just is. How you handle it will speak volumes to your soon to be hubby. Two examples - my car was broken into early in the day about 6-weeks-ish before the wedding (basically the suggested time frame for sending out invitations). In the middle of the night, I woke up and realized the box with our invitations (all filled out, ready to mail, just waiting on the stamps) was stolen out of my trunk. I started crying, thinking of how long it took the invitations to get to us in the first place, plus filling them all out. Poor me panic freak out. My poor hubby-to-be got up (in the middle of the night) and drove around to look in dumpsters in the area to see if he could find the box for me. Sigh. I still feel horrible about that. Second example - on our wedding day, right after the reception started, hubby stepped on the back of my dress as we were walking. I feel the tug at my butt and hear RIP. I looked at him like OHMYSHIT, covered my butt with my hands, grabbed my sister, and ran to the bathroom to check whether I had an ass hanging out for all our family to see. (I did not; just the bustle connector button ripped off, so I held the back of my dress in my arm the rest of the night.) When I got back to hubby, you could see he felt SO BAD. And for what? Because my tailor didn't bustle it up enough? No. He felt bad because I gave him the 'whatthefuckdidyoujustdo' look.
Go cheap on things that you're 'ehhh' about but don't feel bad about splurging on things that matter to you. I splurged on my dress, and he splurged on the booze (gotta have Crown). We went cheap on photos. We had a good photographer, but the photo package - we got the bare minimum, cause guess how often you go back and look at the album?
Don't feel obligated to have a big wedding party, or even a wedding party at all. I had my sister and hubby had his father. It was very special like this and felt like we were honoring them more than if we had each chosen 5-6 bridesmaids/groomsmen.
Too many guests = not many (or possibly any) memories with them. We only had 60-70 guests (hubby has a large family), but I still barely remember even speaking to half of them.
Music is important to set the mood. DJ, band, or even your own mix on CDs (am I old for using CDs? haha). Just make sure it's the mood you'd want at your wedding. We went cheap here and did our own mixes. Looking back, I wish we had hired a band to liven things up, and that's more us anyway. We love concerts.
Photos - I know I already touched on the photos, but this is a different aspect. If your hubby-to-be hates being in photos, don't make him pose with you, and your family, and his family, and your siblings, and his siblings, and over here by this flower, oh and over here by the cake. You get the picture.
For the honeymoon fund vs gift registries...you're always going to have people in your life that will not want to (and shouldn't feel obligated to) just give money. I think you could start a honeymoon fund, but do make sure you have a traditional registry also.
Just make sure it's not just about you and the wedding you want. Let him give input and find out what's important to him.
[–]kitsunethreetails27, married 7 years, together 10 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We had a small wedding, just under 20 guests. It was nice and stress-free. We got married at the same little church his parents were married, we had the dinner at our favorite Greek restaurant, in a nice little gazebo area that was big enough to fit us all, and then his parents had invited us all back for an after party at their house.
We also cut a bunch of costs:
I got my makeup done at Clinique at the mall, when you buy $50 or so dollars makeup, you get the makeover for free. Worked out great for me and my two bridesmaids since we all use Clinique products.
As a gift my sister-in-law asked if she could make our wedding cake for us. It turned out beautifully.
My husband's friend took our photos during our wedding and reception.
We didn't have to rent a hall since the restaurant could accommodate us on the floor.
As for the wedding gift, since it was just mostly family and a couple friends, we didn't have a registry so we got mostly cash and about $300 in gas cars. We used that towards our honeymoon up in Niagara Falls. :)
[–]0leanderr 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My wedding was a small dinner in my house, my parents and grandmother came over and helped me make the appetizers, I made the main course. His parents were there as well, his father officiated. Very small. No honeymoon, just papers being signed with the people most important to us.
Probably not what you were looking for, OP. But I thought I'd add my story too :)
[–]maya_elenaMid-20s, married, 3 yrs total 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Realizing that this is a bit out of scope for this sub-reddit, but one cannot have enough useful advice for events like these. Therefore, here is some of mine, based on my experience (which went quite well):
1) Designate an obmudswoman (mom, maid of honor) who will triage any and all problems Day Of.
2) Have a set of low-priority things that enthusiastic people can help out with (flowers, guest book, seating people, etc.).
3) If you're doing it indoors or with a dance floor (not beach or grass), get silver or white ballroom dancing shoes. Wear them to your dress fittings. Get a dress you don't trip over (i.e., no train).
4) Canvass people in advance if they plan to do speeches or show videos. Also, work through the timing and traffic patterns - ceremony to reception, dinner, speeches and dancing, and dessert.
5) It's better if the newlyweds have their own "sweetheart" table rather than a big one for the wedding party.
Edit: formatting and wordiness
[–]yetieaterHusband (9yrs), mid-30s, 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree with all the above, but especially:
I would also suggest your Fiance designate an equivalent, because sometimes it helps to have a gopher on both "sides", and some jobs are more suited to ushers (or groomsmen or whatever the local term is for you), than bridesmaids/mothers, such as shouting for people to pay attention when certain things such as photos are happening, or simply moving something heavy.
[–]lackadaisicalily 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's your budget for the wedding?
Small, don't want to blow our savings. Roughly $1k, but there's wiggle room if he really likes the idea.
[–]littleteafox 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Looking forward to hearing more stories!
Personally I am of the mind of having a very small destination wedding ceremony, followed by an actual party a few weeks after :) I really like the idea of keeping it chill, casual, understated, and outdoors. I've read about having flower crown stations (where guest can make flower crowns) and I rather like that idea. Give us introverts something to do ;) or just have fun selfies with it, and great for kids.
I'd prob want to create my own music playlist -- I have non-mainstream tastes in music. I'm also liking the idea of wedding cupcakes with different flavors as opposed to a giant fancy cake.
[–]espocitaEarly 30s, LTR 15 years 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Me too!! I don't have advice yet cause I'm only getting started, but I do have a question I've been thinking about lately since I'm new to RPW. For the most part wedding planning seems to be left entirely to the women, does this differ at all in a RP relationship? Shall I bring every idea to him for a decision? Hope I'm not hijacking this post!
Depends on what he wants. Mine doesn't care about the majority of it, but he will have final say in cost and venues. Otherwise, I'm just ...running amok, haha.
[–]am3liia 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I am planning a wedding - he definitely cares about food, the costs, and the bigger stuff! But, he would hate it if I was constantly asking for advice about flower arrangements, or if he prefers teal, aqua, or turquoise, haha. Don't take over the entire wedding and ignore his desires but if he delegates something to you, don't keep bothering him with it.
[–]espocitaEarly 30s, LTR 15 years 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you, this was my instinct on how it should work. I really value his input and he definitely has a very artistic eye so I will definitively bring some of these bigger items to him. Also, teal, aqua, turquoise... are you me?
[–]am3liia 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love those colors!
[–]Kittenkajira 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I'll comment more later, but I wanted to say that you can get a honeymoon registry through travel agents. They give you little cards to put in your invitations that have instructions for your guests on how to contribute to the registry.
If you just want money from your guests, you can add that to your invitations. We put "If you would like to get us a gift, please bring along some dollars for our life together" on the bottom of the directions card.
[–]maya_elenaMid-20s, married, 3 yrs total 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think that's a good idea.... let people get what they get. There are a ton of forums on the Internet (weddingbee, thenknot, weddingwire, etc., etc., etc.) that dissect the etiquette of gifts, registries, invitations, dress codes, etc.etc. etc. etc.
I'd say the fine line between not insulting your guests' generosity and seeming entitled is to have a registry at some mainstream place (Macy's, Amazon) with items of different expensiveness, tastefully referenced on your wedding website and nowhere else.
[–]Kittenkajira 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I got that wording and idea from an internet forum. I see nothing wrong with asking for what you want, even if that is money. I went to a wedding a few years ago where they just wanted Home Depot gift cards.
What the heck is this wedding website business you're speaking of?
[–]maya_elenaMid-20s, married, 3 yrs total 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can set one up for free - weddingwire.com or theknot.com are the sites I know of. Very easy to do and very handy for posting information and getting RSVPs online - something many, if not all, of your guests might prefer. Not the best platform for managing guest lists or budgets, but useful.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I did not know about this - that's a good idea!
I don't like the idea of just getting money, seems ...not us.
[–]Kittenkajira 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It depends on your situation, that's for sure. We will be downsizing to a smaller house to save money while we try for children, so we definitely don't want a bunch of stuff. I would rather have a simple honeymoon, so didn't want to do the registry. So for us, money is the best, and we will have one of those boxes for the cards at the reception. If people still bring gifts, we'll be fine with that as well.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That makes sense. We're saving for a bigger house to upgrade once future children get bigger, so dipping into that savings is off the table. I think the box idea sounds good, and obviously we wouldn't turn down any gifts.
Thoughts on a small gift registry for the folks who really want to buy one?
[–]Kittenkajira 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually the gifts they will get on their own without a registry will be very thoughtful. Do you think those who really want to buy a gift would ask you what you want? You could keep a few wants in mind for when someone asks. It may get confusing if you request money in lieu of gifts, then have a small registry.
[–]yetieaterHusband (9yrs), mid-30s, 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the box idea sounds good,
Just a tip from a friend's experience, but be careful to ensure such a box is secure - wedding venues can have a lot of guests who don't know each other going in and out, so security is difficult to maintain, and such boxes are a tempting target for thieves.
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[–]am3liia 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Kittenkajira 0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]maya_elenaMid-20s, married, 3 yrs total 3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
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[–]maya_elenaMid-20s, married, 3 yrs total 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Kittenkajira 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Kittenkajira 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]yetieaterHusband (9yrs), mid-30s, 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link