You should NEVER ignore any signs of infidelity

Remember, when a man flirts openly with your women, it’s HER chance to demonstrate HER value by turning him down.

If she fails, you know you have invested in a bad product and it’s time to sell.

This shit is meant to make YOUR life easier. If she makes the wrong decision, then she demonstrated her value and practically made the decision to end it for you.

Don’t be a pussy and mateguard. People only mateguard because they are afraid to see their girl fail this test, and they’re afraid to see that their snowflake has bedroom eyes for a random. You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife.

This hits close. Good post OP. Girl I was in a LTR with was very attractive and flirty. I didnt pick up on any of it until it was too late. Too much time away from me and an older guy who managed his way in. You know how the story ends. Hindsight is a great teacher. There were more red flags than a communist parade in China. If she shows signs of this behavior, plate and plate only

OP has given a tip which is almost always learnt the hard way. I was dating this fashion designer HB8 who was extra flirty with almost every 2nd guy we met. Now there is this level of promiscuity and stuff in the fashion industry which goes, and I consistently ignored the red flag. It was like I was the golden star on the Chinese red flag and STILL ignoring it. Of course I learnt my lesson the hard way.

She went to work in a new town for a month, and immediately started riding Mr Chad in the new city. I was going to go see her on her birthday and Chad got to know I was planning to spend money on her. That is when HE called me up to tell me that she was basically sleeping on his couch and rimming him since weeks, lying to me in front of him on phone. Told me not to bother, and that he was gonna kick her out soon. We both are still in touch.

How to deal with this though , if you catch her cheating you : This is a gem I learnt here at TRP and helped me keep my dignity. Basically the advice was simple : "You did what you wanted to do, I'll do what I want to do now" and just next her. No drama, No Emotion.

Punishments have to be swift and harsh. Also, this entire free will concept brings a lot of calm in the process.

I like the the way how in the end he just hand his mug over to some woman in the audience, and she drinks from it. Celebrity life...

Even when she stated that she's married, you can see her hand off camera go to hold Russell's. They were holding hands on her accord for a good 5 seconds.

This. Do not tolerate branch-swinging behavior in any LTR.

My plates are free to do as they please, and I'll even love some of them dearly. But they'll never obtain my commitment for as long as they choose that path.

I agree with OP, but I want to emphasize that it's important to maintain frame when you see this kind of behavior in a woman you're involved with. You don't want to turn into that paranoid, pathetic beta calling and texting her constantly asking where she is.

Thot's like that should never be making it past plates.

So, if instead of having an LTR you maintain sexual relationships with multiple women (i.e. have plates) then none of this is a problem. No one woman can walk out the door with 100% of your pussy supply, and this lets you deal from a position of abundance.

The “you vs the nigga she tells you not to worry about” meme is a meme because it’s true. This type of behavior is so prevalent and so relatable that in order to talk about this particularly common and uncomfortable occurrence it has to be coated in a thick layer of plausibly deniable humor; a meme. Meant to be funny, relatable, and then gone.

Hollywood is known for being full of cucks and leftist, liberal wankers.

Is it any surprise IDGAF men like Russel Brand slays pussy. Nope.

And you are right.. Any inappropriate and sexual moves made by a LTR deserves a hard next.

In these kinds of situations its never a good idea to listen to explanations, trust your gut. Whatever she says are probably contaminated manipulative spin, watch what she does and how she behaves, thats all you need. If you feel strange about how she is behaving then trust your gut, there is simething there no matter how small.

Your example is horrible. If you marry a fucking movie start, you should 100% expect to get cheated on. She is hanging around most of the time with top 0,001% men in the world.

But the point you made is good. If I was to get into monogamous relationship (which I won't because monogamy doesn't work no matter how TRP alpha you are), I would avoid girls who are touchy and flirty with all dudes. Also like you said "I was drunk" isn't an excuse.

PS. You are not supposed to get serious with your plate. If that's the case that you catch feelings, you should upgrade her before "getting serious".

PPS. You don't have to be "traditional alpha" in your body language and behaviour. Russell Brand is a faggy twat and still he nails girls effortlessly. Self-confidence, status (and game).

Yup, exactly this.

If a woman is flirty and openly enables guys hitting on her, it doesn't really matter if she rejects them this time. Because if that's her standard M.O., all it takes is her being pissed at her partner, and suddenly she falls on his cock.

Also never allow your woman to make your hamster spin by telling you "oh, he's just a friend".

Yeah, a friend that will put his dick inside her soon.

It's laughable when a woman pretends she has a male "friend".

I see this same scenario in my pals bride to be, openly flirty and touchy around other men even myself which I don’t condone. I have no interest in another mans wife, I’ve tried to subtly warn him without directly telling him she’s bad news. Hoping he will pick up on it but no luck. Great post dude

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This has been my experience EXACTLY. Never believe their bullshit excuses or he’s just a friend or I was drunk and you were not there.

Here’s another favorite: OMG I was bragging about you the while time he really respects you!

Fuck. That.

Russell Brand, Chad Thundercock? He looks more like Mystery running his feminized PUA peacocking pick-up game. Also, her body language indicates she is submissive and plays along with attempts to dominate her, but that she was uncomfortable with his advances. He literally took her hand and led her onto his lap, and she went along with it, even if she didn't really want to or like it, she still submitted to it for no real reason. Also, that was basically an event that could have been trumped up into a sexual assault on live TV, and you can see that Fallon knows this and is uncomfortable with it. But since Brand is a celebrity, he gets a pass.

It's important not to mate-guard.

When encountering signs of a woman's flirtatious nature coming out to play at the sight of another man, let her. It's an indicator of multiple things and an opportunity to asses your status. Your woman should be charming, flirty, and desirable. After all, she is a direct reflection on you as a man. How often do we point at weak men with horrendous shrieking wives and say, "look at that example of what not to be?" It is entirely up to a woman's discretion to draw the line where the advances of another man becomes disrespectful to you, as her partner.

Say you wanna plate someone like Katharine McPhee. A C-list actress with well-maintained good looks, with connections in the entertainment industry and minor clout. This is a higher value woman than most, and she looks great on your arm walking into a hot-shot directors party in Beverly Hills, California. - Is that Lakeith Stanfield talking to Emily Blunt over there? - In order to manage that, you're going to have to be fairly wealthy, overwhelmingly successful enough to gain access to her circles and have clout of your own, or simply be a distinguished and recognized individual in your own world to the point that she deems you fit. As you level up in life you will gain access to higher value women, and it's up to you to decide what games you want to play and for whom. An actress operating in the entertainment industry must keep up with appearances. This means being flirty and demonstrably talented to any potential actors she may work with or producers that she might meet. If you've chosen to select her as a partner at whatever level, there is a certain amount of her outward nature with other man that you have to come to terms with in order to reap the rewards of getting her to come to your bed at night and be your arm candy during the day. If she is a high value woman, she will implement her nature as a career advancing tool - after all, sexiness and good looks are currency for most female entertainers - and draw a hard line in the sand to maintain loyalty to her single partner.

Remember that a woman's hypergamous nature is by default one that attempts to secure for herself the highest value man that she can and remain loyal to him until there is an opportunity to branch-swing. If a woman is promiscuous and has frequent or multiple partners, her value is lowered, both in the eyes of her prospective partners and the circles in which she moves in. Women are vigilant of this at all times. When a woman that you are seeing engages with other men, that is an opportunity to assess her value and her level of respect for you. Her behavior should be a direct reflection of the partner that you are to her.

"I’m a one-man kind of gal, and a kind of true romantic at heart."

Her hamster must be a gymbro

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3765941/I-don-t-regrets-Katharine-McPhee-talks-affair-married-Smash-director-ended-marriage-Nick-Cokas.html

None of this is any reason to next a woman, plate or whatever. At least not for me. I assume they will fuck others from the outset. Hardcore is not giving a fuck.

LTR? I would not have one. Plates can be there for the long term too. Then again, I'm old and really, really don't care.

If I had to do it all over again, I would still have children, but never live with or marry anyone. This frees you up to search for a good mother rather than a good wife. In retrospect, it's just not worth it.

Yeah cool and all but this is not real , it’s TV shit

The only thing that needs to be said here is "Correct, sir".

The real advice should be to never give a fuck about infidelity, never get married and instead of Long Term Relationshits man the fuck up, improve your SMV and built a herd of Long Term Plates. Monogamy is for the low SMV male, it should never be part of TRP yet it seems that deep down almost every poster in this sub is just looking to how he can become the best husband to keep his special girl around instead of enjoying his freedom and eating teenage pussy to the day he dies.

She's now engaged to a 69 year old record producer. That producer has been married 4 times already.

Yeah, if I was in a committed relationship with a woman and she sat on someone's lap, I might nope the fuck out of that. No way would any woman who respects her man thinks it's fine to sit on another guy's lap.

Do you really lack the insight to understand that Russel brand is just that; Russel's brand. When he acts like Russel brand everyone play along. all of his interviews go the same way.... Do you really expect your women to be only yours? Are you stupid enough to think that your women isn't flirty with me behind your back when you're not looking??

OP is just using this example to justify a low effort post. If she acts like a slut treat her like one.....

women NEVER have unattractive (to them) male friends.

women will always have at least one other guy besides you in her life. he could be a friend, fwb, secret lover, etc but they value male attention more than anything.

women cheat when they value that free attention so much that when the guy pulls away, she has to "raise the bar" with her investment to keep his free attention around. just texting turns to calling, in person in public to alone, then just kissing to just making out... then PIV. she's invested.

women getting "free" male attention without feeling any obligation or pressure to fuck is the equivalent to men having NSA, unemotional, always available pussy.

Fellas just going to go ahead and say it. You can do everything right on your end. Hold frame, lift regularly, make a lot of money, etc. but if russel brand ends up next to your wife in a social setting and has the desire to bone her then you’re screwed

Actresses agreeing to do sex scenes in front of a camera should count as a red flag to begin with

Yeah I love the "he just a friend" excuse, I am thinking about all my female friends, and 99% of them I would bone, enough said!

Russell Brand. Of course. My last LTR said once "I bet I could sleep with Russell Brand if I tried". Loyal and never flirty, yet still said that one time!

Being openly flirty with other guys is a red flag, and you should never LTR a girl who does this. Many men have more difficulty picking up on another key sign, and that is changes in behavior, particularly coupled with a propensity to argue. When you see this happen, she's cheating or planning to cheat.

Good post. I think Brand is kinda a douche bag though.

Learned this myself with my first ever intimate GF. Almost a quarter century ago, but the shame at the ease at which I had been made a fool of still burns. Still, at least I was cognizant enough to know that something was severely wrong (there were other red flags that I saw as such, I just didn’t fully understand what they meant), which is how I caught her naked in bed with him in the first place.

The comments by others that “her ability to state your worth to her by refusing to flirt with others” is bang on. If your girl can’t keep her hands to herself, then you are just not worth it in her eyes, and she just isn’t worth the effort to keep. Trying to repair will only ever bring you pain and suffering, and delay the inevitable.

Casual and incidental window shopping is one thing, as long as you come home to eat (and there is no shame in appreciating attractive members of the opposite sex… from a distance!!); but sampling the tasters is a clear indication that someone is just a hop and a skip away from eating out. Without you or your permission.

On the plus side, look how easy it is to get a girl. Married, boyfriend, it doesn't matter. It's all open game.

I wouldn't draw too many lessons from Hollywood shit. This is all make believe. It's manicured. A show put on by people who present an imaginary version of reality to passive consumers. For all we know it was just an act and she was never attracted to him. What sells is "Ow wow look how sexually charged and inappropriate Russel Brand is!! HAHAAHA!! OMG!". It looks like this is exactly what they were selling here.

It's funny, you see that clip and what you take away from it is : "don't be like that woman's husband" and "beware of women like Katharine", but what I take away from it is "be like Russel" and "target women like Katharine".

Different perspectives I guess, but the important part is that Russel, if he fucked her that night, didn't care that she might fuck another guy the next day.

I know that some guys want to build something more lasting, but in my opinion, a relationship is not something you want to build your life around.

"oh, he's just a friend"

that red pill biz markie song

Don't take examples from Hollywood. It's a town full of deviants and psychopaths. What you see on TV and movies is scripted, an image they are trying to convey. For all you know Russell Brand is completely different without an audience. In any case he acts like the court jester, not the king. Don't be the court jester. The court jester dances like a fool for the real alphas.

Also never allow your woman to make your hamster spin by telling you "oh, he's just a friend".

what do you mean? I normally just consider him an orbiter of hers unless I see any red flags

Some uber driver instantly was bout it bout it when I climbed into her car in scrubs smelling like a mix of formaldehyde, fecal matter and literal human remains. Situational alpha I guess. Had a wedding ring on and car seat in the back of the car. Didn't want to come in the first time but the second time she did come inside. Didn't do anything really but was an eye opening experience. Her mother was calling her to figure out where she was but she just ignored her. They are children who are unable to think about the big picture.

True story - my nephew attended a private pre-K. A few times I picked him up after school as a favor to my brother and SiL who occasionally had work obligations. The school was owned and run by a 30-something woman. One time I saw her husband there (who apparently had his own separate career) doing some carpentry work there to help her out.

I found out a few years later that they divorced after she had an affair with one of the dads of one of her her students. She was this quiet, serious teacher with a husband who was willing to do what he could to help her out. But still cheated on him. And shat where she ate (her own Pre-K business). AWALT.

Note: Brand was doing a lot of GRAND-STANDING. He was being entertaining, but that aside. I like what you wrote a lot.

So good one, and she probably wants to get down more before she hits the wall; its my opinion she would have always been like that even from a young age, and now she is just whipping her own little pony trying to get ahead with sexuality as best she can, in a use it or lose it sense; its her body/choice. But don't underestimate that it could have had more to do with the relationship itself than her desire for new dick.

She said she had a husband, Brand left or was kicked off is my guess by the producers for 1 being a right old dick haha and 2 interrupting the next interview - people go on these shows to not just be guests but to promote themselves and it was her moment to promote. She was also being a good sport in some ways. No need to cause a scene - and yet she seemed to really like it in a way, bringing out the husband bit ONLY when her reputation was in danger - never mind his honor - but who knows maybe he was cheating by that stage too, we just don't know.

Loyalty is huge to men and there is nothing in the modern western world to enforce it. Feminism is disloyal to the gender (I mean even guys want to take women out for a good time, feminists just want to rain on your parade), and modern women are open to the tendency of being disloyal to their men.

Its true, you really do need to match that in your life. I had not seen this girl in a short while, and not that I even would really but especially as it arose I would not blame her for this. Its perfectly fine and it relates to the video. One of the girls I am seeing atm had a date the morning I saw her, I did make plans with her too, it was nothing serious more like a meeting, and mine was more involved but I didn't even bother to worry, because that night when I set something up with her after cancelling the morning thing, it was time to get down. You got to think - this fool was just taking her out for coffee in the morning when he should have been setting up drinks (supposing she would have let him which she did not and would not have owing to her schedule and inclination) - she gave me several times to meet across the weekend, none of them night, so I arranged a day to show interest knowing I would probably cancel... so I set something up for later when I understood her evening plans were not massive (even though she originally wanted to leave her evening open for sleeping after her dinner plans). Do you think coffee-date guy had the mental acuity to realize what I realized? I mean we had already had sex a couple of times, but I doubt he was getting anything like that and was very much a brand new guy slotted in right before the main course (me) was going to meet her. Sure, sure, if coffee was what actually happened, but I don't think she is like that. You need to be a detective in your thinking. Rational not paranoid. He would have went out with her and had some coffee and she showed no excitement over it, I doubt he was doing much else because at that point she thought she was seeing me later before I said can't make it/got busy. She had a busy weekend, is all. Point being is a girl can date more than one guy, but a married woman has to be explicitly off-limits, its a different style of relationship.

I dont own this girl and she does not own me, if we ever catch feelings you pay that due respect, but right now? My point is the nature of it (minus the honor difference) is indivisible. Its just that in marriage you made a long term supposedly life-long commitment. To be broken only in cases of abuse or otherwise bad things.

Even then I can talk to girls when they're on their period and set something up with them, go over and get a hand job/suck, and whatever guy they'd been out with had simply bowed out. Life's what you make it - I can fire the girl up and maybe others can't. Also I know 'that time of the month' and 'I feel tired' are things that happen to people - its not their baseline - quite often they still want to nooky on instead of cursing nature or going to sleep early.

To the other story, neither of us expressed any alarm at that she dated or that I talked about other chicks in a non threatening way. Just like with how you treat girls you are trying to get to simply go out with you - you can't get butthurt if they arranged things with another guy and not you.

Girls don't get invested as easily as guys for many reasons and even dating she is liable to become dissapointed long before you do, but when they do get invested they seriously do get invested.

Now, without loyalty or obligation (though some may exist naturally between two people as a form of understanding/reciprocation rather than honor or doing the right thing as much)... the above is even more tenuous.

The trick is knowing about it like the red pill espouses - but also just rolling with it.

People who get married these days are simply asking for trouble.

With the chick in the video we also don't know why she got married - maybe it was for connections, etc, or some other attribute not directly related to being super happy first/foremost with the guy. Too many what ifs but it is a huge coincidence she got divorced soon after this and it may well have contributed to it.

Did Brand get laid from this though? I doubt it. But look at her actions moreso - she cheated on the director guy, and she could be engaged to some record producer, an older guy.

I suspect she is a gold digger, and as witty and charming as Brand is, and I like him a lot, though here he was brushing immaturity/clown.... as all that he is very much B-list and probably not on her radar to feel much for him.

But Brand also would have picked up on how loose and fast she is and the way she was reacting giving him encouragement to at least see and push it.

I think a relationship for this particular girl is like a weight around her neck. She didn't flirt back hard here of her own volition overly much, maybe it was more having fun.

Thats poor advice when I am being forgiving and reasonable-doubt like looking from the outside in. Nah. Its a hard and fast rule. You wouldn't catch me doing that to my wife if I had one most likely. So what would I do?

Even so, just by sitting on his lap I would file for divorce. I would be trying to get the ball rolling. She is far too loose and fast and makes a mockery of her then-husband no matter if they were having trouble or not. Also, she is probably an idiot who just wants to be seen on camera, etc than anything else. Her priorities for marriage are wrong, and indeed, maybe she got married too early - but the husband should have thrown off his blinders that night and got stuck into her - which is another reason why maybe they divorced soon after it. Was it a year? I couldn't live that long with that - I would have started proceedings right away.

You can't go back from that, she was sitting on Russels (probably great) dick. Stuff that.

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If it happened to me well I already said what i would do because of life experiences. When I was 18, a chick sat in my lap at a party due to lack of chairs and she LOVED it.... right in front of her long term boyfriend who was like 'wtf dude/bitch?' She told him to calm his farm and she got up then sat back down and moved her butt around over my dick trying to make both of us comfortable. It was a hoot and he was pissed off and went inside, she thought he was being a child - but really while she may not have wanted to cheat and we did not, and her friends around her before too long (and she had her arms around me and shit because its not the best chair/lack of chairs) and made her get back up. She was just proving a point maybe by then, and there was a lot of drinking involved, but thats that - I would not do that to my missus.

Second time I can remember an 18 YO girl sat in my lap at a party with her BF there, who was very close to me as a friend, he was young too and I had given him some advice. She was too break up with him before long. She fell pregnant first and he basically couldn't be a good dad. She's a single mum now. But she knows what butters life - and thats basically me because I can look after her and that day when everyone else had passed out ,and I had beaten the fuck out of this guys brother, and my good friend for trashing the house ( I was asked to eject him after his antics) but we made up later... well she hung out with me and you could tell anyway she really liked me and later she told me she wanted to break up with him, and of course he was awake again by then but anyway, she wasn't happy. These are two people saying how much in love they are in front of everyone and there she is sitting on my dick, and the next time pulling me down into her lap - all in the form of a game and laughing and crap but she couldn't control that level of emotion.

No one can. But as adults, in general, and even then, sitting in a lap is grounds for divorce, only unhappy girls look elsewhere. You need to be fucking them to sleep, not having your girl drag guys into her lap or vice-versa. I mean this kid couldn't look after her - his own brother was coming onto her and I pulled him off her, he hit me and I hit him back and we got over that until we fought later on again... and the previous night same brother had tried to grope her (so the bf asks me if its ok?) .... had to smack his brain around a bit saying its not cool even if he is your brother/drunk. That night I needed a place to sleep and another girl at the party gave me a spot beside her in bed - non sexual I just wanted to crash out.

Sitting in laps?Instant divorce. If on the receiving end - you [should] fuck her ASAP.

What about PUA advice to ignore other guys? I don't know which way to take.

On one side to ignore and be alpha. On the other to react and be beta. Any opinions?

I've been in russel's situation a few times. I guess I should be glad I wasn't the girl's bf/husband.

That's Chad Thundercock? He looks more like a poofter to me. When he opens his mouth, it's even worse.

How is that not mate guarding though?