Forbes fires columnist who points out that girls who get too drunk are irresponsible and that false rape accusations are real

Aerobus · 2014-09-25T01:59:21+00:00

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vissil · 2014-09-25T00:32:13+00:00

I don't understand what's wrong with the article.

Identify drunks at the door. I don’t care how pretty or flirtatious a young lady is; if she’s visibly intoxicated, don’t let her in.

In addition to the usual bouncers, assign several brothers to monitor female party guests. If any appear out of control, walk them to the door and put them in a cab heading back to their dorm. You can send me the bill. If they refuse to leave, call for an escort from campus police.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée.

This man is saying that brothers at the fraternity should be vigilant; he is saying that if a girl is intoxicated, one should under no circumstances sleep with her. The part he adds that's different from feminists, however, is that the females are irresponsible in their actions.

That's not allowed anymore? Don't mess with drunks, because they make bad decisions, isn't allowed anymore?

GruntStyle0311 · 2014-09-24T22:27:10+00:00

Men are censored because of feminist views on the grounds of "political correctness" no matter how much truth there is to them. And yet, the feminazis whine about how women have no power. Ha.

A woman could write the most heinous misandry article imaginable... And nobody would bat an eyelash.

Aerobus · 2014-09-25T02:02:22+00:00

Frezza is just the latest example in a long line of writers who have used their media platforms to suggest that college women are getting too drunk and falsely accusing men of rape.

This is what angers me. It's not a suggestion. IT'S TRUE.

BadgerBurger · 2014-09-25T00:10:03+00:00

There is nothing more abhorrent to a woman than the realization that she fucked a less desirable man, and that worse, other people may know she did.

They get drunk in the hopes that a high value man might decide to take her to bed. If she wakes up the next day and realizes that her suitor wasn't what she hoped, well... hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Red_August · 2014-09-24T21:38:36+00:00

"Fahrenheit 451" style thought-police are right around the corner.

Uckcan · 2014-09-24T23:28:26+00:00

Wow now you can't even say drunk people make bad decisions

RedBigMan · 2014-09-25T04:05:28+00:00

Frezza is basically saying WOMEN CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO ACT LIKE ADULTS AT FRAT PARTIES

And he is completely right. Under the new rules of Title IX every fraternity will have a huge bullseye on it. You cannot get drunk and have sex, because if you do - inevitably you will be accused of rape.

It will happen - and if frats want to continue to operate then they have to be on point about drunk girls and get them the fuck out of the house.

Girls, you're now getting escorted to the door - not to the bedroom. You just lost your frat party pass.

FortunateBum · 2014-09-24T22:02:44+00:00

I wish I could corner a feminist about this.

First, everyone wants sex, right?

Second, men and women all want the same amount of sex (right feminists?)?

Third, if the issue is women going to parties where guys want to fuck them and then they have sex with those guys is an issue, I fail to see what the issue is, whether these women be sober or drunk off their ass.

Is this the Victorian era where women were expected to never want to fuck? Women want to fuck, men want to fuck, they go to a party, get drunk, fuck - what is the goddamn problem? Seriously?

If everyone wants to have sex, and they have sex, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

I really would LOVE a SJW or someone like that to explain this to me.

nallalalla · 2014-09-25T01:13:52+00:00

"If you want to know who your boss is, look at who you aren't allowed to criticize"

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BIGBIGBIGMEANIE · 2014-09-25T03:20:32+00:00

Someone give this man a raise.

AAAkiller95 · 2014-09-24T22:43:06+00:00

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrezza/2014/09/23/drunk-female-guests-are-the-gravest-threat-to-fraternities/ Link to actual article.

[deleted] · 2014-09-25T01:34:01+00:00

Parents should be educating their kids to know better than to sleep with these women. Short term gain for quite high risk.

Ojisan1 · 2014-09-25T06:20:12+00:00

Common sense has been criminalized.

Won't be long now before pointing out the obvious is classified as a capital offense.

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[deleted] · 2014-09-25T03:20:29+00:00

Tracy Clark-Flory tweeted hate at this Frezza guy saying that he is the problem.

Not that Clark-Flory ever got the shit fucked out of her while she was drunk or anything.

Hilarious.

Doctor_Mayhem · 2014-09-25T05:18:32+00:00

Easy solution, don't fuck college girls while in college, find something out of that hostile enviroment. You will hear how "All the guys are just cowards" and shit like this but still better then false rape charges.

_orion · 2014-09-25T00:17:51+00:00

I'm sure if that was the case Forbes wouldn't have anyone to report on.

Squeezymypenisy · 2014-09-25T05:17:27+00:00

Sad to see it. His article had so much common sense. But most of America, even the world, lacks that attribute. But damn does it make it easy to manipulate and step on them.

totorox · 2014-09-25T11:30:07+00:00

Link to the unbiased article and site instead: http://www.mediaite.com/online/forbes-columnist-argues-drunk-female-students-are-threat-to-frats/

Thinkprogress is weasel-unfair while gawker is brutally so.

deville05 · 2014-09-25T11:55:02+00:00

Man i never thought id be glad to live in a third world country

TankVet · 2014-09-25T12:28:57+00:00

My problem with the author getting fired is that there seems to be a vicious double-standard for this sort of thing. Time Magazine has published plenty of articles that raise the hackles of the SJW type.

Honestly, I just wish this stuff were an honest discussion. I think it would be better for men and for women if these things could be addressed with intelligent, considered conversation rather than instant moral outrage.

AddictReborn · 2014-09-25T12:30:05+00:00

"Just this week, eight prominent frats announced they will work together to develop training programs for their members on binge drinking and sexual assault." Yea. That will fix the issue. Because clearly fraternities don't understand the dangers of binge drinking. Not like the article in question listed a ton of ways they try to prevent binge drinking and heavily intoxicated individuals from entering their house. If anything, I bet everything in that article will actually be told in these meetings by their nationals in an effort to help prevent their chapters from getting fucked over and kicked off campus because someone got too drunk at a party and shit went down.

qtyapa · 2014-09-25T13:02:38+00:00

I want Emma Watson to make a speech on this.

August12th · 2014-09-25T13:58:37+00:00

what really rubs me the wrong way about this is feminist along with society ironically claim to want equality for women but everything about the actions taken with this article indicates they cant even take hypothetical criticism equally. Shouldn't feminist be up in arms that they are being sheltered and treated like children? the really sad part is if this article swapped genders or even had racist connotations it would have been more or less fine.

[deleted] · 2014-09-25T14:20:26+00:00

In my opinion the parties and sex isn't worth it, your there to try and educate your self, focus on that. the days of parties at such institutions is over, spoiled by those whom do not wish to take responsibility for their own actions.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

If you want that fine wife and home and family some day, work on those things after your done with your education, not during.

teeelo · 2014-09-26T03:37:19+00:00

Ugh, I'm as frustrated and dissapointed about this as you guys but please consider this most likely has something to do with Money.

If not catering to the audience results in decreased funds, morals be damned.

Sad state society is.

aazav · 2014-09-25T01:45:23+00:00

"But I want to be the victim - unless you're not cute, or I decide differently when I'm sober."

nrokchi · 2014-09-24T23:33:10+00:00

The objections raised by other parties are not the concerns raised by individuals like Frezza. Those who attempt to portray this simply as girl whom are too drunk being assaulted and seeking justice are not viewing the whole narrative. This example is heinous and does deserve swift action--I cannot think of a person who believes sex with an incapacitated person is okay.

The issue raised by Frezza here rears its head when one drunken night at a frat house many moons ago can be used as blackmail against any male at that party, which is followed up by some joke tribunal of he said, she said and instructions from the Department of Justice which places the emphasis on the "preponderance of evidence" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt". There is no cross examination. There is the presumption of guilt when engaging in the process. You get no lawyer. It is a matter which is handled entirely internally by the schools by individuals not qualified to judge a pie contest, let alone the future implications of "substantiated" accusations.

raouldukeesq · 2014-09-25T02:57:10+00:00

False rape accusations are relevant. Girls who get too drunk being irresponsible is irrelevant.

JihadDerp · 2014-09-25T12:19:14+00:00

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Atavisionary · 2014-09-25T18:02:25+00:00

this stuff needs to be documented, the internet is wonder ful for putting duplicious behavior in check in general.

don't let them document you and erase their own tracks.

edit - documented and aggregated.

flexiblehold · 2014-09-25T20:58:45+00:00

I wonder if date rape hysteria is the ultimate shit test. Wouldn't it be primarily betas who a) commit date rape b) worry about committing date rape?

Too many betas and orbiters are intimacy sluts, they'll cuddle, sleep with a girl (no boners or touching though, teehee!), listen to her talk about how "dating in this city is impossible," etc., without realizing that by withholding the aforementioned they have leverage for poon.

I could see such an AFC getting drunk, going home with a girl thinking he's finally going to get ass, fumbling and fucking everything up, she relinquishing the pussy reluctantly (if for no other reason than she is drunk and horny and at least he's got a dick), with the next-morning shame, guilt, and second-guessing overwhelming her.

I'm not trying to say there aren't psychos out there who rape women under the pretext of a date, but statistically the number of them is necessarily low, and can't possibly account for the epidemic. It's not to blame women, either, but we must understand the aforementioned dynamic -- betas get laid, too, just not as often, and typically in awkward fashion.

Date-rape-hysteria-as-shit-test works by sapping the confidence of unsure betas before they even meet women, let alone take them out ("I better not take advantage of this little daisy, I will be a gentleman and self-consciously request even the smallest K-close instead of making a move that might construe me as a dog."); it also allows women to discard, disqualify and reverse-hamsterize the betas she does settle for, especially if she is pre-wall and he doesn't have money.

thro_way · 2014-09-24T23:41:36+00:00

Honestly it's just good business sense.

When was the last time you were able to walk across a college campus without hearing some blue-haired coed gossiping with her friends about Richard Branson's 5 New Leadership Techniques?

This "can't-get-enough-Forbes-magazine" mania that's so consistently entranced generations of college aged feminists has always been their cash cow, so it's only reasonable that they'd go to such lengths to avoid pissing such a prized demographic off.

MrOaiki · 2014-09-25T04:20:42+00:00

But how is the columnist's observation of drunk women relevant, when it comes to men sticking their dick in these women without any form of explicit nor implicate consent?

Title	Forbes fires columnist who points out that girls who get too drunk are irresponsible and that false rape accusations are real
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Date	24 September 2014 09:02 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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