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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think Alpha and Beta are just place holder words, used to help describe a much more complex social dynamic. This dichotomy is what most people attack when they speak of the Red Pill.
That being said, I think the Alpha vs Beta system serves it's purpose when introducing people to the Red Pill. To compare it to the martial art I train in..
When people are first starting to learn the martial art, they are taught in very direct means. "slide your right foot forward, twist 45 degrees, pull down to your belt". These movements are simply an imitation of the true technique, which is too complex for a beginner to grasp.
So coming back to the point, a new user can say "OMG I'M TEXT BOOK BETA!!" and start to change his actions towards the text book alpha. Somewhere along the way though, he needs to understand that these are just generalised guide lines, it is just imitation of what a true alpha did at some point. It allows the man to cultivate his internal "alpha" (ironically for lack of a better term).
This argument works for the PUA community as well. Imitate those who have internalized it so you yourself can cultivate these thoughts and actions, until it becomes natural and hence effortless.
If you never internalize it, and are constantly imitating it, then as you say, I believe it is in some ways a failure on your part.
I agree with everything you say and recommend it to anyone focusing too heavily on the alpha - beta dynamics. Failure is a broad term in this sense and I personally like to think of it this way.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This is failure.
Failing as a tool for learning is a strategy towards success.
[–]3trplurker 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Basically fake it until you make it.
[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some people get stuck in a rut of "faking it" and internalising a mindset that specific things are alpha and others aren't. It's really fucking stupid, it's what I'm calling out here. Gotta develop and eventually reach internalisation.
[–]3trplurker 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, its like the basic PUA stuff. It's for beginners to get some experience and a little bit of success to guide them on personal growth. It's not meant to be a permanent solution.
[–][deleted] 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're getting deep in the theoretical now my friend. Failure is an inability to achieve intention, it's a by product of learning.
[–]chill_geddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Realest thing I've read today
[–]Meterus 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To a degree, at least, success speaks it's own language.
[–]3trplurker 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only results matter. Something I happen to live by.
[–]jmikolash -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good thoughts man
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