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by SouloftheVoid on /r/TheRedPill
09 May 2019 03:27 PM UTC
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| Title | Alabama bill would criminalize false rape accusations |
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| Author | SouloftheVoid |
| Upvotes | 1234 |
| Date | 09 May 2019 03:27 PM UTC (9 months ago) |
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Murder is rare yet it's still illegal. WTF is this chick smoking? It won't stop anyone from reporting rape but people that are lying about it. Innocent until proven guilty is still a legal principle (for now).
They don't want to give up the female privilege of being able to destroy a man's life with a few words.
Yup, the same reason they are against paternity testing at birth, forcing a man to continue child support for a child that's not his after so many years, lifetime alimony, default custody to the woman, no research funding into male birth control or outright blocking it by FDA, higher taxes on men to pay for social programs that benefit women, lying about abuse to throw men in jail, etc etc etc.
God I'm never getting married.
Nope. Dont. It's a fucking trap.
Every wedding ive been too has been like watching livestock led to the slaughterhouse. The place settings and celebration serve the same purpose as blinders and massages before the kill.
And then you hear from some senile aunt how the bride fucked the best man night before and THAT'S why the groom got drunk and picked a fight.
That dumb cunt then let himself get browbeat into not seeking an annullment.
I just.. don't get it
That seems oddly specific.
Who hurt you? /s
I've only been to a handful but that one stands out because of the insider knowledge.
"Not all weddings!" /s
All of these things are designed with one purpose in mind: to offload the burden of the female parasite (and her thug-spawn) onto a man as to keep the welfare budget relatively under control. Monogamy and strict enforcement of both parties kept this problem in check a few generations prior, but feminism fought to unleash female hypergamy and offload the costs on men or the government (ie male tax dollars).
Marriage is a test of your confidence and intelligence. Get married and you are defacto a stupid loser, and therefore will have to pay the woman, lawyers and the government for your stupidity.
Confidence, intelligent and attractive men don't have to pay for sex and don't have to get married, so they don't.
Modern marriage is failing the biggest shit-test of your life, sadly.
Unless she got family money
Or just don't get married if you live in America (or the west).
In theory, that's for the kid, not for the woman.
The problem with a lot of women though is they have a concept of “it was real to me” or “it felt real” or “I thought it was real”. Anyone see the massive scandal on British tv last year on a reality show where this psycho bitch accused a man of assaulting her and wanted him kicked out and nearly destroyed his career until they found a camera angle showing the “assault”. When they confronted her afterwards all she said was “it was real to me at the time” Absolutely no remorse whatsoever shown by her. And no apology. And this was her being caught out on live national television! What chance does the average Joe on a her word against his stand? Them bitches are master manipulators and liars. It is trained into then from teenage years or younger.
I won a false harassment case against a woman, but the judge don't allows me to file for damages because 'The girl really though it was true, there was no malice'. Are you fucking kidding me. What about my destroyed life?
At least you won, many men don't even get that. But still the second part, that really sucks - more female privilege right there. Sorry to hear it.
Not a lawyer, but talk to some lawyers, bro.
Fuck what she said, you can appeal to a new judge, and plenty of lawyers and ambulance chasers would take your case for free I imagine.
Get yours, fuck that.
The real reason is "because female".
Female privilege is endless in our society, sorry this happened to you.
Blue pill cucks destory society. The world needs TRP more now than ever before. Treating women like children with the rights as a adult is hurting them too. Judge needs to step down and read the sidebar.
Sorry bro, instant pussy pass.
even when their wrong, their not wrong...
Good argument made to have many women locked up in a mental institution, they literally are insane.
Yes. That particular one on the tv show was a tv actress and after she did it many people who previously worked with her said yes she did stuff like this before, she has a history of it. She was crazy and dangerous.
Something like this has been long overdue.
The reality is likely much worse.
Given that around 80% of cases aren't proven one way or the other, it's reasonable to suspect that's the case.
Please help me find the source on this. I would love to have this for my jackass friend who says they are rare and not ba issue.
Here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21164210
Nice. Very small scale though.
Remember, that's just the ones that are PROVEN false. Most are thrown out due to no evidence (I.E., they are false but cant be proven false)
And this is just proven. Hopefully there's no statute of limitations on this like for the crimes that are being falsified. Men like these deserve justice in a real way.
Didn't the FBI do an investigation and found it was 40% false? I can't remember the source but I'll try to find it.
That sounds way too steep, honestly. I don’t think there is any evidence supporting that prevalent a rate of proven falsity among accusations. Please let me know if you do find the source.
I posted the source but if you didn't see it here it is. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/7/false-sex-assault-reports-not-rare-reported-studie/
I could find this same research in wiki on "false rape" page. The thing is - there is no 40% of cases what "proven false", but 40% cases what were cancelled due to lack of any evidence. In sexual assault reports they could be "proven false" only if a woman herself acknowledge it or a man have had some solid evidence like video recording.
edit.
No, it seems in this research they just used polygraph until account of events matched. Which prevented most people from lying to the police.
Of course, why would they be rare if there are no consequences.
There is not going to be a source, most cases go away with neither side being able to prove anything.
It's actually something more like 40%. I read another more comprehensive study but for the life of me I can't remember where...
There was also a case study of the Bavarian police. Was called something like "Vergewaltigung und sexuelle Notigung in Bayern" from 2005. If I remember correctly, it placed the number of likely false reports as high as >60%.
Seems like the US got a better deal...
Just checked it out on wiki. It was 40% because police used polygraph and asked both sides until their account of events matched. This way it was "proved". In all other studies case would be "proven false" only if either victim acknowledged it or if there was some solid evidence like video recording.
Nope. Read the study ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653 ). It specifically states:
The polygraph was NOT used to categorize the accusations as false/true. The determining factor was an admission from the complainant. The false reporting rate they found: 41% (45 out of 109).
While there are some issues with sampling and questions about whether the small community is representative of the US population today, I would argue in today's culture of hysteria the false reporting rate is either very close or even higher that this.
Check other researches on wiki. Almost all of them tell same number - 20-30%. I assume what 40% is real percentage though, as system is far from being perfect. So this is just one of studies. What really terrible is what some other studies could tell you % as low as 2% - it means A LOT of innocent men were send to prisons.
Yes, because this is proven false.
There are a whole load more that can't be proven.
Note the careful wording. Proven false. It isn't the job of the accused to prove the accusations false. It's the job of the accusor to prove them them true. This is fundimental concept in the American Constitution and anyoner that disagrees with it borders on being a traitor.
Also they get very loose with the definition of allegation. They use actually criminal cases when they want a number like above. They use just merely someone saying something, aything when they are trying to get the three-in-four statistics.
In otherwords, it's all deliberate bullshit.
Found it. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/7/false-sex-assault-reports-not-rare-reported-studie/
Also the definition of rape is actually changing so that's another one to think of.
false rape accusations should have already been criminalised years ago
The excuse I hear being barked from front women from “rape crisis centres” on this country is that it would “deter legitimate cases from coming forward” (out of fear of themselves being prosecuted)
Awww. The poor dears are worried about being falsely accused of a crime? Welcome to my world!
That’s women for you. Always me, myself and I
The reality behind this position is simply "prioritise women over men".
If I make a false claim of theft, murder, assault, literally anything else - there is no doubt that I should be prosecuted.
The only time you hear "it would prevent real victims coming forward" is for rape and sexual assault, and the only reason you hear it is that this position benefits women.
Babylon figured it out - false accusation punishment should be equal to the punishment for the falsely alleged crime
woah, that is brutal. It is hell of a deterrent for people thinking of acting in such unscrupulous ways.
Better late than never I guess, assuming it passes.
Who’d have thought it would be fuckin Alabama being positively progressive lol
Alabama is more red pilled than most states.
Only in terms of keeping women in check. But most dudes there really let themselves go when they found the “one”.
This is a universal truth. You have to be somewhat knowledgeable about the red pill to see through this lie.
I posted this on that TwoX feminist subreddit, so go check it out if you want to see some female shilling later
I bet they just banned you for doing so.
I marked it as "NSFW" so that way it can be looked at as a "trigger warning", and didn't X-post from TRP
Honestly, I'm more surprised that they haven't auto-banned me for being subbed to TRP
Did you delete it or did they remove it?
Apart from the typical feminist savagery and ignorance, there is a very good post on that site that argues that you cannot criminalize false accusation because its hard to prove a negative. Most false rape accusations are actually 'lack of evidence' accusations, not really false. Unless the false accuser is caught on camera or she confess that it was a lie, it would be very difficult to prove that an accusation is actually false.
Often times they do, or the accused has an airtight alibi during the alleged "rape".
Okay, so those women have nothing to fear.
It's actively false ones we want to criminalise.
Like when we find texts that conspire to accuse him, you go to prison. Simple:)
It's not false rape claims that are the big problem, it's the definition of rape has been made so broad.
he stared at me in a funny way. EYE RAPE! EYE RAPE! EYE RAPE!
Finally...one college slut who I had a one night stand with told everyone I tried raping her because I wouldn’t be her boyfriend. Another “female friend” tried doing the exact same thing Luckily I always overthink stuff and never delete my messages unless it’s been years (might even begin saving them altogether because of metoo). Another girl I tried sleeping with but rejected me had a bf (she allowed me in her bed) told campus safety that I went into the room without being invited and that she didn’t knew me lmfao
I swear... all these three incidents have almost fucked my life over, and after the very last one, I swore to never even have any western female companionship, not even friends, not even go to dinners, no North American/European women in my room... nothing, it ain’t worth it anymore
I hope Hispanic born women In Latin American countries haven’t been infected by this psycho type behavior
And this is the entire reason a bill like this was even created in the first place. Hell, the Rep even said it was due to something that happened to someone he knows. Yet all the cunt sycophants rail against it. I kept having friends and family members asking me when I was going to settle down and get married. They finally stopped asking after the last answer I gave them......"God Himself could come to me in a burning bush and saying I would be banished to hell if I didn't man up and marry His shit creation and I STILL wouldn't do it."
Why do you think women specifically target you for this? What pulls your SMV down that makes them think they can get away with this?
Regardless of SMV, it’s the fact that they can do it They know it’s a legal weapon they have to lock down a man, or finish a man’s life if they choose so
We know. But they tend to feel more justified to do these type of attacks on men where they think they can get away with it.
If you have a sizeable history of it happening to you, there is something about you where women think they can get away with it.
At that time it was being naive and not knowing that being manipulative is a major conditioning tool in every single North American/anglodescendant/European woman. Also I still believed that all women were angels (and not that 90% are literal backstabbers)
Also it was the fact that I had a history of being a player (I have quitted... not worth it anymore), I was at a highly liberal college campus (feminist groups and cultural Marxist groups have a lot of power... my last English teacher was definitely an full SJW feminazi that was 100% one sided with females and tons of complaints from male students and the board of directors didn’t do shit).
You also forget the fact that 90% of these women are so entitled that, independently of any factor, when their reputation is at stake (maybe losing a high SMV dude from getting caught cheating) and/or vengeful mind takes place because you rejected them, they will use anything in their power
Fair enough. I was just wondering about the specific question i asked but if you feel it doesn't apply then no worries. Yeah i'm aware this happens to everyone regardless of SMV.
I asked the question because i get very polarising reactions from women myself. Half good, half bad, very little middle ground. Bad can go to good once they get to know me a bit. But i believe this is due to my behaviour not really matching my subpar looks, and the behaviour not being strong enough on its own to blow away any bad perceptions before they occur. They feel something is off and so reach a nuclear reaction quite quickly so i sort myself into a category. Sometimes i can get past them, sometimes not. But there is an incongruency there that they are uncomfortable with and feel they need to address.
i hate alabama (football) and would never cheer for anything in that state. i wouldn't move there if they were giving away money.
but on this topic... all i can say is:
"ROOOOOOLLL TTTIIIIIIIDE!"
thank you.
now, "LSU...LSU..LSU."
man fuck a buncha Loose Slut University LMAO.
but yeah.....the state is pretty fucked up.
dude sluts are fun... and unlike bama, they're not kin.
I heard there are reports of incest.
As well as I know the state and the people those reports are probably true
What people might not realize (including the idiot anti-rape activist quoted in the article) is that while it might be punishable to file a false police report, there is zero penalty for false rape accusations in family court, which are often used to take away a man's kids. This bill would also punish those family court accusations, which would go a long way towards fixing the problem of women lying about rape to get custody.
Based Alabama.
Anybody have any links to other subs discussing this? I'd love to see just how loud some women (and their cuck lapdogs) are shrieking about it
Try that X chromosome feminazi sub...
Look under other discussions to see how they are reacting to it in the politics sub.
Fuck yeah! as a victim of false harassment accusation that changed (destroyed) my life and my family, I just hope the fucking bitch get what she deserves. There is no such law in my country, I hope its implemented like rape accusations, that you can denounce them years after the fact.
Finally, I would love to see this be federal, but I'm a states rights guy and hope it just gets passed along naturally as is best IMO
I don't live in Alabama anymore, but I did grow up there. May move back home soon due to family members getting older and the drop zone I used to go to being shut down back in '17. But yeah....even in backwards ass, low education, bastard womb filth born out of wedlock Alabama you can find liberal cuntfaggots railing against legislation that is meant to protect men. EVEN in redneck, snuff dipping, gun rack in tha back of the pick'em'up truck Alabama there is liberal cancer of the 3rd wave militant rabid feminazi and cuck/simp type that gets sand in their pussy or their dick slit over anything that impedes the immoral agency of women.
At least we've still got a really great college football team. ROLL TIDE!!!!!
I feel lucky to live a life far from fornication.
This feminine primacy crap gives me stomachache.
The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies: For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.
Since the invention of the anti pregnancy methods, and the rise of feminism, we’ve been living hell. The soft, silenced, feminine type of hell. Men suffering systematic slavery to serve the woman who cheated on him and her children of another man, paying the costs of his house without the right to live under its roof, getting their life-long effort ripped off, imprisoned.
Why?
We got tired of feminists whining about the history of men dominating the world. Looking back at it, humanity was better off like that.
What did humanity get from feminism? The more a country intrenched in feminism, the lower the fertility rate is. The older the population and the weaker society is.
Giving the pussy the steering wheel will be our demise.
It’s time to pull back the excessive corrupting power that ruined the sexual dynamics balance.
Anyway WE can support this bill??
If rape accusations that were provably false were actually prosecuted, twice as many women would be sentenced for it than actual men sentenced for rape. Let that sink in. That's how common it is.
Shouldn't false rape accusations be up over 50% then? Highest over seen is 40.
Nah, I meant that 2% of accusations are proven false by police and never even brought to court, and .6% of accusations actually end up in a conviction. So if law enforcement actually made the arrests they should, the ratio of jailed women for false accusations to jailed men for rape would be roughly 2-3x
0.6% ? how can it be so low. What happen with the other 99.4% accused men?
Wait, I just looked into the stats. That 6% is out of all instances of rape, reported or not. I'm gonna have to revisit my numbers.
Hi I'm back! According to RAINN, out of every 230 reported rapes, 4.6 arrests will happen. That's about 2%, and is the lowest end of the estimated false report rape (e.g. provably false allegations divided by total reports) So my .6% was wrong, yet the thesis is still right. Link if you want to break down the stats: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
You see the reason rape convictions are so low is because the report rate is so low (the % of cases moving on to the "next step" with rape is similar to that of robbery and other crimes, so it's not justice system bias)
It had better be as harsh as punishment for an actual rapist and the lying bitch should be publicly exposed.
It would be a felony with up to 10 years in prison.
Did anyone hear about Patrice O'neal's False Accusation Story? If you haven't you must.
Guess the world is slowly waking up
How is this not already illegal?
Hopefully, there will be 49 more like it
Doubt it's going to pass. At least from the article, it implies that if there is an accusation, somebody will go to jail. Unless this law clearly defines ill-intent on the part of the accuser, then this is pointless.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm confused - are allegations proven to be false not already illegal?
Not specifically, and this bill would make it a felony punishable by up to 10 years.
As long as the allegation is proven false beyond reasonable doubt, seems fine to me.
I have a hard time picturing anyone who speaks this way getting a bill passed. This guy sounds like some toothless wonder from Bumblefuck County.
So then it sounds like you're in favor of women being allowed to make false rape accusations with no consequences. I think the sub you're looking for is called The Blue Pill. You can find it in a Reddit search.....if you're intelligent enough to know how to use the search function.
And it sounds like the sub you're looking for is MGTOW.
Be better than the other tribalist morons who clutter up this site and the rest of the internet. I can jab at some guy's broken sentence structure and meandering thought process without supporting anyone or anything.
As if your language is any better lol.
You don't like what he has to say and you're fixating on how he said it.