These days, women are playing by a mix of the old and new social rules when it comes to dating. This means that many men are spending money on women (in the form of drinks/meals/gifts) in order to gain her attraction.
But should men be doing this? We already know that 1 in 3 women admit to going on a date with a man just for the free meal, with no intention of getting to know him or giving him sex: https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/ (it might be more than 1 in 3, because some women could have easily lied in the study)
We also know that women these days don't feel like they are obliged to give sex just because a man is chivalrous, kind or treats her to a meal/drinks/buys gifts. In fact, many women see this as duplicitous or manipulative behaviour if a man does this and they can usually see right through it.
Women also earn their own money now and they can fall back on the state for help as well. They don't need to give up sex in exchange for a man's resources like they used to have to.
With all this in consideration, should men bother to pay for women anymore? It seems like a pointless thing to do in my opinion. Men should just let attraction naturally occur without throwing money into the equation - if there isn't any attraction, then move onto another woman.
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