Guy posts on multiple dating subreddits saying he prefers younger women, gets called 'misogynist'

buartha · 2018-06-13T14:41:44+00:00

What is a more likely and reasonable answer: is the OP a misogynist (Feminist answer) or are the users accusing him of being one simply insecure themselves of approaching the Wall and thus projecting (Red-Pill answer)?

Neither are necessarily true, although OP may well be a misogynist, I don't know. It's likely because people tend to vocally disapprove of blatant superficiality, either out of genuine disdain or as a form of virtue signalling. It's no different to a woman being shamed as a golddigger for exclusively dating wealthy men, and honestly I see the latter far more than the former in real life (unless the girl in the former scenario is <20 with a 10 year+ age gap, then you will be judged a lot more.)

Salty-Bastard · 2018-06-13T14:34:33+00:00

Misogyny as a term is diluted to the point where it now means simply "I don't like what you're saying and you're a man" instead of hatred of women. It's used by blues on this sub the way reds use the term feminist.

PuleaSpataru69 · 2018-06-13T17:11:40+00:00

What the hell...he only wants someone 3-5 years younger. That's normal. How does that make him a misogynist??? My husbnd is 12 years older than me. What is he??

I think the people in the comments are crazy.

nemma88 · 2018-06-13T15:01:07+00:00

What is a more likely and reasonable answer: is the OP a misogynist (Feminist answer) or are the users accusing him of being one simply insecure themselves of approaching the Wall and thus projecting (Red-Pill answer)?

It's basic social interaction that if the you group your audience in with negative attributes by association some will defend themselves.

I don't think it has much to do with pills as it has not being socially inept.

Suggesting to a audience of normal men that only those above 6foot are worth dating would be inviting backlash.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-06-13T17:50:53+00:00

Dude women on reddit and the internet in general have a pretty warped sense of misogyny and propriety at times. There was this story not too long ago where a wife found out her husband of many years (they have 3 kids) was taking pictures of her sleeping and in her underwear. She was super distraught about this and the majority of women on reddit were calling him “creepy” and a predator. They even said she should divorce him and file charges. Out of all the commenters, there was only a handful of us who thought the wife was overreacting and being unfair to her husband. It blew my mind.

says_harsh_things · 2018-06-13T14:39:23+00:00

As Mallory Archer would say "put it back in the deck".

"Misogynist" is just a trump card that women feel brands the offender as the wrong party, an indefensible position.

Electra_Cute · 2018-06-13T14:48:10+00:00

I think it is incorrect to call someone a misogynist for having a preference, but I also think it is fairly idiotic to think that flaunting those preferences will not bring about "shame" from other people. The OP is not the centre of the universe and it is unfortunate that he exercised his freedom of speech and people exercised it back.

The Red-Pill explanation for these comments is clear and simple. These commenters are likely women who are close in age to the OP's sister, and through female solipsism share the same insecurities of approaching the Wall, so they use Feminist buzzwords such as 'misogynist' to shame the OP. Their clock is ticking out. OP isn't a misogynist at all.

I mean you can do some discursive deconstructive analysis about why those users are saying that to him etc. etc. But I think it is odd that people are unable to see how a male's preference for a "young woman" can come off as creepy; thus misogynistic in some people's eyes. It strikes me as odd how all of these "Red Pill" users preach sex differences, then go on about "double standards" and "symmetry". Everything men do is automatically seen as "creepier" and that has little to do with some "feminist" someone imagined in their head.

KikiYuyu · 2018-06-13T19:40:14+00:00

He's superficial for sure. Being superficial doesn't = misogynist.

exit_sandman · 2018-06-13T14:33:04+00:00

What is a more likely and reasonable answer: is the OP a misogynist (Feminist answer) or are the users accusing him of being one simply insecure themselves of approaching the Wall and thus projecting (Red-Pill answer)?

False dichotomy.

OP isn't a misogynist but that's what feminists will call him merely for looking out for his own interests and for selecting based on his own politically incorrect shitlord criteria instead of on the more "enlightened" and "in his league" and "mature" criteria women have decided he should use.

It's also not necessarily true that the women accusing him are insecure, approaching the Wall, and thus projecting. What's going on here is that women know very well what men find attractive. Women know very well that men select for physical appearance, physical attractiveness, youth, and healthy appearance.

Women also know when they have those characteristics, and whether they are are lacking in those characteristics. Women know this because they're taught and trained from very young ages what men like, and whether they have those characteristics or not.

Women hate it when you point out to them in any way, shape, manner or form that they lack attractiveness in one way or another; that they're not good enough, that they don't cut it, that they can't hack it. They hate it when you point out to them, even subtly, that they aren't good enough and that other women are "better" or "more attractive" than they are. They absolutely hate it, because you're JUDGING them, and that is something you as a man just are not ever allowed to do, ever, not for any reason. And you aren't allowed to judge them because that sets them up for rejection, and women cannot handle rejection. Women cannot handle being judged, and they can't handle being rejected.

MakeMoneyNotWar · 2018-06-13T15:29:19+00:00

They’re mad because he is 29. He is being petty about 2-3 years. 26 is literally only 3 years younger than 29. I can’t even tell the difference between a 26 and a 29 year old woman.

Gravel_Roads · 2018-06-13T15:47:30+00:00

In and of itself it’s not misogynistic. But man, these posts tattling on what some women said to some man on the internet and then saying “explain THIS, feminists!” is super tedious. Most people online are idiots who don’t know what words mean. Try not to take anything people say too close to heart.

That said, the stance that dude is taking is pretty gross for obvious reasons, and I have no idea what he was expecting. It’s a SHITTY premise to base an LTR on.

altmehere · 2018-06-13T21:08:58+00:00

Is it misandrist for a gay man to prefer a younger man as a partner?

That's a rhetorical question.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-06-13T23:40:44+00:00

Most accusations of misogyny have nothing to do with misogyny.

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-06-13T14:35:27+00:00

Sexual discrimination against women of any kind is considered misogynistic. Sexual discrimination against men is considered a preference.

There are huge pressures for women to appear young, both internal and external. Women are constantly blasted with messages of how to keep their skin, hair and body looking young. Women agree that young=hot, but you can't bend the mirror to where they'll admit it without being called a misogynist.

goatismycopilot · 2018-06-13T16:33:10+00:00

Women will bitch and shame over anything. Best to just ignore them when they do. If op can get younger girls then so be it. Most people will take the best they can get, but most settle

SpaceWhiskey · 2018-06-13T17:41:56+00:00

I mean, I don’t know what he expected. Proclaiming yourself to be shallow and asking people to weigh in on that statement is almost a guarantee you’ll be criticized for it.

DebatePony · 2018-06-13T16:53:53+00:00

What a silly post this is.

Of course someone who holds this kind of view is going to be lit up on a sub all about "relationships." It's a pretty controversial opinion and one that is very shallow.

What is a more likely and reasonable answer: is the OP a misogynist (Feminist answer) or are the users accusing him of being one simply insecure themselves of approaching the Wall and thus projecting (Red-Pill answer)?

Neither. OP has a shallow opinion, and people called him out on it esp when he mentions that he told his 28 y/o sister that only women who are 24-26 will stay attractive for a couple more years. Like how dumb do you have to be?

allweknowisD · 2018-06-13T16:34:06+00:00

Gets called misogynistic by 3 commenters over the 2 subs*

These “explain this, feminism!” posts are really reaching lately

KerPop42 · 2018-06-13T14:59:37+00:00

It's not misogynist, it's hypocritical. He's requiring that the women he dates be younger than him while expecting them to have lower standards and date someone older than them.

Also, accusing women of attacking him because he reminds them that they're getting to old to have kids is BS. Most of the parents I knew growing up had kids in their late 30s and 40s.

wtknight · 2018-06-13T15:27:27+00:00

This is definitely due to female insecurity, and is probably being said by women who have also chosen men based at least somewhat on their looks. Of course, some women are realistic and don’t criticize men for being like this.

Illuminated-Soul · 2018-06-13T17:16:27+00:00

I don't buy this women 'hit the wall' and men age like wine bull. Surely, if he's talking about women the same age as him, he's going to lose attractiveness in the same way as them. It's not 'misogyny' - I mean, people can have whatever standards they like - but it is an example of unrealistic expectations.

Raiil · 2018-06-13T16:36:07+00:00

I think a likely answer is that while I don't think he's necessarily a knuckle draggin' misogynist, he does strike me as a bit creepy. People with serious age fixations (male or female) always seem off to me.

[deleted] · 2018-06-13T20:27:51+00:00

I’m a guy who sides with the blue pill/progressive side 90% of the time. I think it’s fine for this dude to have preferences. Sometimes your preferences are asking too much based on how attractive you are, but having preferences is fine.

MercedesBenzoAMG · 2018-06-14T09:50:07+00:00

I think this is just Reddit being Reddit. If you said you preferred younger women IRL no one would give a shit as long as you weren't talking about underage girls.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-06-14T15:12:09+00:00

Once again men are candid with their preferences (and are called gross, pigs etc), which is why women often lie about theirs (personality! Must be funny!)

This is no more "sexist", "gross", or "shallow" than a woman waning a man to be tall. In other words - it isn't sexist gross or shallow. It's just how we are wired from an evolutionary standpoint. But did get a good laugh from those post Wall women

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-06-13T23:48:52+00:00

ahahhahahaha, I didn't even realize until I saw those links that the OP was just 29, and he wants a girl only 3-5 years younger. Jesus Christ, people get so triggered about a man having preferences/standards.

No problem if a girl wants a man a foot taller than her, GIRL POWER!

HarpyMaster · 2018-06-13T18:27:40+00:00

Well, he is. Let's not pretend he is not, shall we? Had the roles been reversed, you would be jumping at the woman's throat. Dont be hypocrites, guys. You'd call her a cougar and what not. Let's not pretend men are some angels, okie?

Pope_Lucious · 2018-06-13T18:54:21+00:00

“Misogynist” is the current buzzword insult a lot women use for any man who says something they disagree with or offends them.

His tastes are the norm. Men prefer young, beautiful women.

His sister isn’t a guardian for the honor of all women.

She’s just a bitch.

Redslif · 2018-06-13T14:51:27+00:00

Let's see the definition of a "misogynist"

A person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women

Saying that he prefers younger women over slightly older women is a preference and nothing more. But, if you have spent any time with women, you'd know that shaming tactics are the first weapon of choice for many.

Most women are not capable of staying calm and logical when it comes to the concept of age/looks due to insecurity and it's not surprising to see the posters getting all riled up at the OP.

dankytank · 2018-06-13T19:16:49+00:00

What is a more likely and reasonable answer: is the OP a misogynist (Feminist answer) or are the users accusing him of being one simply insecure themselves of approaching the Wall and thus projecting (Red-Pill answer)?

Both. OP may not be a loud mouth lady hater but his preference is still rooted in valuing women for their youth which is a bit out dated and that raises people's (women's) hackles. Now with cosmetics and better health care a person with good genes can look youthful in their thirties, would you rather take a pudgy 26 year old 5/10 who doesn't take good care of themselves or 8/10 30 year old with a good image. Innocense and sweetness depends on the person, not age. I know plenty of obnoxious young people. Fertility is linked directly to age but on a case by case basis you can still get screwed. You could end up with someone who has genetic predisposition for certain genetic defects, or they might have always been infertile and you only discovered it much later when you tried for pregnancy. So OP made a generalization and people are ripping him up, too bad, if he can get with young women, why can't he just keep that to himself and bang them?

void_magic · 2018-06-13T23:04:01+00:00

Men aren't allowed to have one preference, women get to have 100's.

washington_breadstix · 2018-06-14T04:57:14+00:00

That guy's first mistake was posting on /r/relationships and /r/dating_advice. Those places are toxic.

Actually, that was his second mistake. His first mistake was caring at all what other people thought about his dating preferences. As long as the activities he partakes in are legal and consensual, he shouldn't have to apologize for them.

Entropy-7 · 2018-06-13T17:50:19+00:00

I'm in my 50s. Have you looked around to see what women in their 50s look like? I was dating women in their late 20s and early 30s. Frankly, if I could have gotten away with it, I would still be dating teenagers. However, I threw in the towel and married a 30-something who is 17 years younger than me. I'm not some Chad and I am not rich and I am not whatever, but I am a guy who has enough going for him to pull this off.

Misogyny means hatred. I don't hate women, I don't even hate women over 40 but rather I have no use for them other than in a professional capacity.

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Yonderlander · 2018-06-14T06:45:33+00:00

Yeah I don't think it means he hates women. It's slightly douchey, I think he should be less honest!

mgtownigga · 2018-06-14T10:27:33+00:00

yeah it's always a double standard. You have to also realize that women, young and ESPECIALLY old, take this as a personal attack. They don't like the idea of guys their age dating down; it's an insult to them

marche_ck · 2018-06-14T10:51:51+00:00

Can someone go throw this guy some red pills?

[deleted] · 2018-06-14T17:23:04+00:00

You are being pretty misogynistic because you're focusing almost exclusively on women's X when it comes to Y, and that's kind of gross.

Doesn't matter if you're a Chad. You can tell a woman almost anything you want to degrees of degradation I used to think were impossible a woman would take lying down when I was a teen.

And I'm not talking about kinks nor kink shaming here.

Besides I'm a misogynist simply for being unattractive and existing in the same space as women.

xrorox_rp · 2018-06-15T08:59:37+00:00

Actually, even the fact of calling him immature and shallow is already a form of shaming.

Most people of both genders will try to redefine what should be desired, and strangely that definition catter to themselves.

Even in a place like the RedPill you see such effects about the alpha definition.

Kratom_Dumper · 2018-06-15T16:13:16+00:00

That is pure bullshit and just a typical western feminist response. I have noticed that outside of the feminist countries, it is often viewed as completly normal and understandable that a man will marry a much younger female.

I want my wife to be 18-22 years old when I am 35-40.

consios88 · 2018-06-15T22:16:02+00:00

Women are just mad because the jig is up. Their dual mating strategy of alpha fucks , beta bucks will be less effective if guys their own age want to go after higher value women and get more bang for their buck. Assuming that the man is potential beta bucks, nothing wrong with choosing to give your resources that you worked hard for to a higher sexual market value younger woman.

wuboo · 2018-06-16T04:10:49+00:00

TBH that's not much of an age difference

GayLubeOil · 2018-06-13T16:06:54+00:00

In order to accept the Misogynist premise you must first believe in the liberal progress myth. So basically every person born before the year 1960 is a misogynist including Karl Marx.

In other words if you use the word misogynist unironicaly your admitting to being a self centered retard who sees xerself as the locus of morality.

Women are prohibited from responding to this comment. That's one of my triggerz.

wickedogg · 2018-06-13T22:13:10+00:00

As long as the person is not attracted to underage children, then it's nobody else's business who he's attracted to. If he was into men instead of women, that would be way more misogynistic, but you never hear women calling gay men misogynists.

The bigger problem is that there is some expectation that men have to change their attraction to satisfy other people:

You have to be attracted to fat women.

You have to be attracted to older women.

You have to be attracted to ugly women.

Why would my attraction change just because I'm older? Just because 19 year old super models aren't attracted to me when I'm 70 why should I stop being attracted to them? They weren't even attracted to me when I was 19, so it's not like anything has changed for them.

Title	Guy posts on multiple dating subreddits saying he prefers younger women, gets called 'misogynist'
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Date	June 13, 2018 2:23 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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