The Blue Pill, and other Red Pill detractors, are responsible for the Red Pill's growth

Skratt · 2017-01-13T06:10:44+00:00

Lol at everyone being quiet. That's how I discovered the sub so I'd know. XD

nemma88 · 2017-01-13T12:13:10+00:00

The Red Pill doesn't recruit members. The Red Pill doesn't advertise. Its members are sent there by people who are hating on it.

I found TRP via a link in /r/relationships, it was posted by a Red Piller. You occasionally get update posts with a notation to people sending them links to TRP also. TRP itself has asked it's members not to advertise. While the sub in itself does not, it's members certainly seem to behind closed doors.

I do agree though a lot will have come from such occurrences. I've seen TRM click bait doing the Facebook rounds before and I'm sure many people get back to TRP that way.

Offhisgame · 2017-01-13T12:20:30+00:00

The red pill actively recruits. On places such as dead bedrooms and and general manosphere. But that doesn't matter. They can recruit all they want.

I can't speak for all blue pill on PPD, but I for one would like the message out there. Everywhere.

I know red pill does not want their stuff out there, for one specific reason. They use bags of tricks, like D-grade magicians. Once the dirty tricks are exposed, they can't be used again. Red pill dirty tricks work on the very young and inexperienced, emotionally-damaged women and women who actually want sex.

Example of a big'ol bag'o'tricks.

I do not believe the red pill want women and parents in general armed with the knowledge of red pill 'plate spinning', red pill canned responses to 'shit tests', red pill manipulation of wives and red pill methods to get past 'LMR' and 'ASD'.

Nor will women be impressed by a set of men who think they are children and unable to function without direction.

And I don't believe society in general will be at all impressed with the red pill insistence on 'perpetual frame' at a time when marriages are breaking up due to lack of emotional connection and when so many men are committing suicide due to depression/lack of emotional connection.

The red pill seems to operate under an erroneous belief that women don't like the red pill because they 'don't want to see the sausage being made' or because 'they will be tricked into thinking worthless betas are alphas'. That is delusional nonsense.

If there was a forum of men who want to lift and generally improve themselves, no one would bat an eye at those lovely sausages being made.

And the thought of women being angry they'll be tricked into thinking red pillians are alphas is stupid beyond compare. If it's just a night of sex (that she wanted) how the hell is she going to know you're faking something, and why would she even care? If it's a relationship and you keep on being like you were at the start, why would she care what you were before?

The red pill sets young men up to think that manhood rests upon a bag of tricks. And if that bag of tricks is exposed, their manhood will shrivel like a popped balloon. Well, fuck, red pill, how about building men up instead of having them build a tenuous house of cards?

Eastuss · 2017-01-13T10:34:22+00:00

I would blame more r/relationships than TBP. Seriously, this place is a gynocentric hellhole and every advice given to a man is a more passive agressive "I have a vagina so I'm right and fuck you". You're basically better off reading RoK (and god knows how they are terrible) than listening to those fuckwits.

Ascimator · 2017-01-13T08:51:34+00:00

The Red Pill doesn't advertise

They kind of do. Not en masse, but I've seen some tactical linking on unrelated subs.

[deleted] · 2017-01-13T14:06:23+00:00

No such thing as bad publicity. All those /r/askreddit threads on "what's the worst sub ever?" increased their subscribers that's a fact.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-01-13T15:13:33+00:00

Feminism is the major reason why TRP and MGTOW are getting more powerful. Not all men are cucks without self-respect, so obviously many will become hostile to women after being called "misogynistic" "sexist" and privileged for no real reason.

Feminist women are not justified to whine about "misogyny" and "hatred" in TRP - that's what you get for hating on men in the first place.

wtknight · 2017-01-13T18:55:42+00:00

wouldn't you be better off ignoring it and letting it remain a small corner of the internet that most people will never find in their lives?

No, and banning it isn't right either. It's better to let them freely speak and then debate their points, which is why this sub exists.

Lyanina · 2017-01-13T06:12:18+00:00

That's actually pretty accurate. I don't think it's the only way people find TRP, but I saw it being criticized (in passing, not TBP) on another sub and looked it up. And down the rabbit hole I went...

exit_sandman · 2017-01-13T12:04:15+00:00

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoNotDoThisCoolThing

BluePiller1776 · 2017-01-13T15:42:27+00:00

let me ask a more pointed question: if you think the Red Pill is a misogynistic hate sub that should be banned from reddit, wouldn't you be better off ignoring it and letting it remain a small corner of the internet that most people will never find in their lives?

But mocking the things I find stupid is my favorite past time

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Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-01-13T06:10:16+00:00

And? I am not sure what you want me to say here to dispute this.

I am of the personal opinion that all such people already were potential red pillers in the first place. There is an expression I have heard in Anarcho-Communist circles that every sleeping Liberal is a potential Socialist or Fascist when you wake them up.

wombatinaburrow · 2017-01-13T08:49:14+00:00

So all publicity is good publicity? That's nothing new, buddy.

[deleted] · 2017-01-13T16:45:27+00:00

Manosphere types are incredibly active in the comments sections of news sites and youtube. The pretty much began to dominate the comments sections of HBD and alt right blogs years ago.

Their entire online presence is largely proselytizing. It's just the method is general and vocal, like Black Israelites, and less personal dialogue-based, like Jehovahs or Born Agains.

bala-key · 2017-01-13T17:02:04+00:00

The Red Pill doesn't recruit members. The Red Pill doesn't advertise. Its members are sent there by people who are hating on it.

This is how I found it. Someone wrote about how awful the red pill is on some relationship related sub.

Macheako · 2017-01-13T19:54:10+00:00

The Red Pill doesn't recruit members

Gee f--king wizz Blue Pillers, now I wonder what we'd call that?...OH, that's right!!! You remember the old saying, don't ya? A good product does what?

It sells itself! Nuff said.

To answer your question though OP:

edit: let me ask a more pointed question: if you think the Red Pill is a misogynistic hate sub that should be banned from reddit, wouldn't you be better off ignoring it and letting it remain a small corner of the internet that most people will never find in their lives?

You're making a few mistakes here:

You're assuming opponents of the Red Pill are intelligent and calculating in how they handle themselves. I personally deny such an idea, so I would need someone to give me GOOD examples of Blue Pillers actually taking the time and f--king thinking about what they're doing or saying, but I have yet to see this simple display of autonomy.
You're assuming these people have the self-control necessary to allow people they disagree with the f--king FREEDOM to disagree with them. Again, from just about every blue piller you can be guaranteed they

I. feel a deep seated need to be in control of their environment

II. utterly incapable of discussing inflammatory ideas and ones they disagree with

III. have 0 nuance in their arguments

IV. display little to no deep and contextual understanding of their "points"

V. are almost entirely ruled by their emotional state

add all these together and you basically get a mini-authoritarian, though they'll never admit to it (DUHHHH!!!! YOU NEVER ASK A CROOK IF THEYRE GUILTY!!! THATS NEXT LEVEL RETARD SHIT). So it's because of these deep deep deep personal issues that they'll likely continue to argue against, rail on, and make attempts at belittling TRP. They're basically natural selection's opposition, so ya just gotta deal with it. In the end, only one pill will win, and unfortunately, we can't simply assume the "right" one will defacto be the winner either :/ Sometimes in history the Bad Guys win. Just gotta make sure you keep fighting if you think you're on the side a Good ;)

Popular-Culture · 2017-01-13T22:36:46+00:00

Therefore, TRP's growth can be attributed almost entirely to its detractors.

Shitty logic is shitty.

That's like saying the only reason the alt-right is popular is because people oppose them. Stupid.

Red Pill is popular with a small niche of low SMV guys who are frustrated, angry, and lonely. Then they find other guys just like themselves on line and a little "safe space" springs into life.

cxj · 2017-01-14T08:17:41+00:00

Tbh I think TRP is old hat. It was a gateway for lots of dudes into the alt right, but the Donald stole its thunder as the main hated sub on Reddit. Not sure what it's future is really

Title	The Blue Pill, and other Red Pill detractors, are responsible for the Red Pill's growth
Author	Popular-Culture
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Date	January 13, 2017 4:44 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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