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[Meta] SJWs are reportedly working with admins to develop a stricter "no harassment" policy at Reddit. We should have an action plan in place for when TRP is banned

1068 upvotes
by WaynesCotting on /r/TheRedPill
03 February 2015 09:56 PM UTC
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According to r/undelete a Reddit co-founder and other members of Reddit are working to develop a site-wide approach to address what they define as harassment and non-civil behavior. You don't have to be a genius to know that this includes anything they perceive as anti-women or remotely critical of feminism, liberalism, etc. A feminist power grab will obviously target groups like SRSSucks, MensRights, and TheRedPill. With nearly 100k members I believe the censure of this subreddit is approaching, either with its outright banning or forcing the mods to implement an admin-approved behavioural policy.

I can't link you directly since TRP already suffers under strict rules linking to other parts of the site (hint: we're already second class citizens), so if you want more background information go to r/undelete and r/SRSSucks to see posts about "DiscussTheOpenLetter"

The titles of the posts in question are:

  • What is up with r/discusstheopenletter? And why are admins bowing down to sjw demands regarding sitewise hate speech rules. (https://archive.today/raryF)

  • Is Reddit about to Digg™ its own grave? Leaked discussion from private sub-reddit showing that Reddit admins, including co-founder u/kn0thing, are meeting with, "experts and activists" and may be looking at limiting site freedoms against people or groups deemed offensive. (https://archive.today/hMusq)

Google Cache searches for r/DiscussTheOpenLetter show that they're referring to things like r/MakeUpAddiction and their recent "you'll be banned if you disagree with us, because that's harassment and body shaming" policies.

My point is that TRP will obviously be targeted, if not by this than by something else that comes along with the winds of politically correct intolerance. We should have an action plan.

  • Valuable posts here and the sidebar should be archived. I don't know if there are any efforts to do this.

  • An alternative Reddit should be used. I've seen people recommend the following safe-haven from SJWs: https://voat.co/. To date this is the best alternative I've seen, and the format of Reddit is perfect for the type of content we post.



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Title [Meta] SJWs are reportedly working with admins to develop a stricter "no harassment" policy at Reddit. We should have an action plan in place for when TRP is banned
Author WaynesCotting
Upvotes 1068
Date 03 February 2015 09:56 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/28728
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2uomrv/meta_sjws_are_reportedly_working_with_admins_to/
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457 upvotesp3ndulum5 years ago

Ha, "I feel harassed because I keep going there and reading their stuff."

Ban fire while you're at it because it hurts when I touch it.

394 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/qJFr0qe.jpg

73 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

The hip hop community knows whats up

57 upvotesdennislang5 years ago

There's a lot of RP wisdom in rap music once you decode the ebonics.

15 upvotesalpha_n3rd5 years ago

You give me your number, I call you up, you act like your pussy on interrupt

I ain't got no problem with you fuckin me but I got a little problem with you not fuckin me

ODB was da man

-2 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

not lately. If you go back to the OG shit like GURU, there's nothing but redpill. They rap about ENLIGHTENMENT. Modern 'radio rap' and everything post-tupac is just "niggerniggerniggernigger." It's distasteful.

4 upvotesdan_legend5 years ago

You could have went with the whole drake being the perfect man slave to every girl he raps about who still dump him, but no, you had to go there.

-11 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

"ebonics" :D? Is that a thing?

Edit: It has a wikipedia entry only in English, I don't need to know a word like that...

41 upvotesgillstopper5 years ago

The only case where I would consider that genuine would be facebook since you can contact their family members and friends as well. But reddit? Don't even get me started on how little I care about people's comments

13 upvotesIbex3D5 years ago

I've heard a few where it was legit. Like when they get your phone number, email, FB, etc. One kid killed himself because they bullied him by text and would beat him up if he didnt respond. but 99% of cyber bulling is bullshit. Just dont read what they say.

42 upvotesRougepellet5 years ago

Similar to when muslims got offended about the cartoons by charlie hebdo and everyone told them to stfu.

44 upvotesnzgs5 years ago

Nonsense. If Hebdo was a libertarian magazine then people would be telling them they got what they deserved. There was so much establishment sympathy for CH because they are a far-left cultural marxist magazine that supports the general multicultural narrative in Europe. This is the same magazine that TWICE started petitions to ban the Front Nationale party. They absolutely detest free speech and so do their supporters. FLFTW16 is entirely correct - most people do not want freedom at all. Very very few people have the intelligence and responsibility to desire a truly free-market voluntary society. Marxism in its various forms never really dies because most people behave like followers and like being told what to do. The parallels with the red pill should be obvious.

3 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

This is the same magazine that TWICE started petitions to ban the Front Nationale party.

I had no idea... but I still support their right to free speech, even if they are using that speech to attempt to censor others.

If I used my power to censor those who would censor those who would censor people, I have become the monster.

Instead, it's necessary to become the stopgap and to say that even if CH was endorsing a detestable idea, it was still their right to support it.

I'm sure all of this seems obvious, but I sensed that you were advocating a pitiless stance on CH as though because their ideology was that of a cultural Marxist nature, they hadn't the right to say what they thought, regardless of content or consequences. (barring libel and slander of course)

76 upvotesFLFTW165 years ago

You mean when the rest of the world kowtowed and people said 'Je ne suis pas Charlie', and admitted that offending religions is stupid, and even the Catholic Pope said that it's wrong to insult religion?

The fact is that the vast majority of people are sheep and don't believe in free speech. In numerous countries saying that the holocaust didn't happen will get you a prison sentence.

People don't want freedom. Freedom is scary and offensive.

14 upvotesfrequentlywrong5 years ago

The most incredible irony of french free speech rally is that a provocative comedian who said something that could be interpreted as being on the side of terrorists was arrested for saying it the next day.

41 upvotesAnaxamandrous5 years ago

The Armenian Genocide is a neat one. Turkey has made it a crime to acknowledge it, and a couple other European countries have made it a crime to deny it. They say Talleyrand, when asked during a period of unrest, whose side he was on, answered that he would know tomorrow. In other words, he would declare once he knew who would win. Well in Europe if you're asked about the Armenian Genocide, asked if you acknowledge it, you are well advised to respond that you'll answer the question after you've checked your map.

I know some left leaning Europeans who argue in favor of banning the "Heil Hitler" crap and Holocaust denial. I have asked them if they realize how silly they seem, combating Hitler's memory by emulating Hitler.

I have to agree with you, most people only want speech to be free as long as it offends nobody, which of course means they don't want speech to be free at all.

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

I agree. I'm religious and I think we should be free to criticise (and insult) whatever we like.

6 upvotesMicroMinion5 years ago

Charlie Hebdo is one of the stupidest things that has happened in the last two years. We all know we are not free to say what we want, and if you believe in that lie you should really consider that tinfoil hat to keep the brainwashing radiowaves out.

Seriously though, Charlie Hebdo was a huge case of complete hypocrisy, and supporting their statement in contrast to some people who got arrested for saying things that don't even insult someone (see "you may not deny WW2" (no I don't deny it but if people want to tinfoil that hard just let them) as as an example, or any of the many, many different cases of censoring) is just buying into the huge propaganda

3 upvotesdan_legend5 years ago

The fact is that the vast majority of people are sheep and don't believe in free speech. In numerous countries saying that the holocaust didn't happen will get you a prison sentence.

The saddest part of it is when you try to explain to them how ridiculous they sound, EVEN THOUGH YOU AGREE THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED (or anything that relates to this example), and they immediately respond asking why you don't believe the holocaust happened. Sigh..

3 upvotesGnometard5 years ago

Turns out, I'm a racist for saying the Hebdo shit was not offensive at all and people freaking out about it had not even seen it. I'm still waiting for the ones that were "so bad you don't see them in the media" to prove my racism.

50 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

just remember that when another fucking idiot goes into 2x, acting as if it's a safe place to talk about the wall and solipism

39 upvotesrobostanleys5 years ago

If they're going to make 2X a default subreddit, they better be prepared when people come in and disagree with them.

2 upvotesCornyHoosier5 years ago

Isn't 2X already a default sub-reddit?

2 upvotesdan_legend5 years ago

That was his point, but it was poorly worded.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

"Don't talk about TRP in other subs" is the new "read the sidebar"

7 upvotesdan_legend5 years ago

It really is turning into Fight CLub..

3 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

By that you mean the solid, basic advice that no one seems to follow?

2 upvotesCornyHoosier5 years ago

Sadly it's true. I don't mention TRP at all anymore. Some of the time people go into my comment history though and then bash me for it.

At the end of the day I don't really care. It's some silly "internet points". I don't even HAVE link karma. It's at the stock (1)

1 upvotesvengefully_yours5 years ago

They have said since I post here my opion doesn't matter, they just hating because I was correct and they were somewhat less than correct.

1 upvotescover205 years ago

I've disagreed there, in a RP way (but not calling it that usually) and gotten allies. Women who are not misandrist really have no way to call out those who are without a man representing them. The shitstorm they would get otherwise from their "sisters" would make your hair stand on end.

Feminism is hardest on the women.

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120 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

we are now a world of sooks, people screaming and crying because they are offended. its just sad.

25 upvotesMagnum2565 years ago

It's because society protects those people the most and gives them the most rights, and if you do anything to silence them or contradict their opinion then you're the bully and they're the victim. We now live in a world where the loudest most obnoxious fuckheads get the furthest, and the strong-minded, silent types get the least; it's not like in our grandfather's era where shutting your mouth and man'ing up was the best way to get things done.

8 upvotesTheGillos5 years ago

shutting your mouth and man'ing up was the best way to get things done.

It still is in the real world.

18 upvotesBluepillProfessor5 years ago

We don't live in the 'real' world but a feminist inspired illusion.

14 upvotesKnight_of_autumn5 years ago

And people are wondering why all of the Middle eastern countries aren't taking America seriously anymore. It's just going to be Rome all over again. The pre-eminent world power, crumbling at the hands of savages because they have lost their values.

6 upvotesu-r-silly5 years ago

"If there’s ever a time when you don’t feel safe or comfortable, hit that report button. We’ll be there."

from the "you'll be banned if you disagree with us, because that's harassment and body shaming" link in OP.

Very sad indeed.

71 upvotesUgUgImDyingYouIdiot5 years ago

One of my other accounts is a mod account in a "conspiracy/dark enlightenment" sub and I've had an uptick of SJW messages asking me to contact admins to ban certain users who are critical of leftist ideology.

25 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

do you tell them to eat a dick?

48 upvotesUgUgImDyingYouIdiot5 years ago

Yeah I called them hypocritical cunts

15 upvotesfistulatte5 years ago

What's the sub? I'm intrigued conspiracy/dark enlightenment is right up my alley.

16 upvotesRojoEscarlata5 years ago

hahhaa I was banned from /r/navy for pointing out that some JIDF where in the thread.

36 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Lol, the second TRP is banned is the second I never use reddit again

92 upvotesPumpDumpPumpDump5 years ago

Good luck. That's like saying "these guys are a cancer, let's smash them into little pieces to cure it!"

What happens then? Metastasis. You can't kill ideas, and 100,000 people is a lot of people. Now they're spread around reddit, spread around the internet. If people can't talk about this stuff here, they'll talk about it someplace else.

Realistically this sub is going to go away someday, but it's too late to stop people from thinking the crimethink. There's too many other websites and too many people who've been introduced to the ideas. The major news media has started writing stories about how terrible sites like this are, which is basically just free advertising. There's already twice as many subscribers here as the feminism subreddit. The comments sections on mainstream news articles often look like they're TheRedPill nowadays anyway, because so many people from places like this swarm them.

The only way you could shut us up is if we're wrong. If men try out the ideas here and don't get laid, they'll stop doing them. Although for some reason I don't see very many "I tried being confident and assertive and the women hated it and fucked a brony instead" posts.

But if we're right, the implications are far worse than these people understand. Everyone here is focused on self-improvement in a way I've never seen anywhere else. If we're right, that is a huge competitive advantage over anybody else, and a large chunk of the next generation of the country's business leadership is going to be people who subscribe to the ideas of this sub.

38 upvotesBreach_of_trust5 years ago

Since I started reading this sub, I've become the director of my own software consultancy firm and have employees. I always had it in me but trp was the catalyst. Purely anecdotal of course. Will offer my services to puerarchy this evening to develop a forum for them.

Edit: free of charge ofc

22 upvotesClaude_Reborn5 years ago

free of charge ofc

Never work for free.

You can do the work at your standard rate, and chose to give them a 100% discount, but never work for free.

Always let people know what you're worth

27 upvotesBreach_of_trust5 years ago

Free of charge doesn't mean free, I get the smile on my face when the SJW crowd realises their efforts effect nothing. That's worth a hundred times my daily rate.

3 upvotesRojoEscarlata5 years ago

You misunderstood him, wanting to share your work in order to push your ideals (or to piss SJW off) is a great cause.

Giving away your work "for free" ironically makes the work itself lose it's value, giving value/price even if you give them a discount of a 100% prevents it.

26 upvotesalphbux5 years ago

Although for some reason I don't see very many "I tried being confident and assertive and the women hated it and fucked a brony instead" posts.

Laughed my ass off at that one.

157 upvotesokkyle5 years ago

Excellent post. Very timely. I was honestly just thinking of this same issue earlier today, though I did not know about the changes to the no harrasment policy.

Not too long ago, reddit announced that it would start censoring posts from "climate change deniers." Putting aside what you may think about global warming, censorship like this should be a warning sign for TRPers. Remember, reddit is fundamentally a democratic website - up voting and down voting. This is antithetical to free speech, and basically means that when the majority doesn't like certain material, that material will be cast aside and eventually banned.

Truth is treason in an empire of lies. Time to start building a life boat.

19 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Source? While I believe you, I don't recall seeing this.

35 upvotesOhRoshambo5 years ago

The real problem with this is the number of bots. Censoring a subject becomes a buy 5000 downvotes for $15.

26 upvotesriverraider695 years ago

reddit announced that it would start censoring posts from "climate change deniers."

Reddit didn't, certain subreddits did. It actually speaks in favor of subreddit independence - you do what you want on your own turf. Plus it looks like they got sick of having the same unconstructive conversation, so it's more alike to banning trolls.

http://grist.org/climate-energy/reddits-science-forum-banned-climate-deniers-why-dont-all-newspapers-do-the-same/

17 upvotessweetleef5 years ago

Not too long ago, reddit announced that it would start censoring posts from "climate change deniers."

There's no better indicator of the weakness of an argument than prohibiting disagreement with it.

16 upvotesFatStig5 years ago

It's usually not even denying. It's questioning the wisdom of making trillion dollar decisions that will have on the order of the same downside as predicted climate change based on unproven models.

I'm no expert in climate change but I am in modeling and simulation. I would not trust any model that much.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Temperatures have swung wildly long before humans came along to perturb the CO2 concentrations by burning fossil fuels. And temperatures have shifted when CO2 stays constant. If they wanted to help the environment they would tax pollutants that do actual harm and not a fundamental molecule of photosynthesis and respiration.

56 upvotesputsch805 years ago

If someone hasn't backed up the sidebar materials that are hosted on reddit, it might be a good idea to do so.

5 upvotesPublicallyViewable5 years ago

Aren't all of them backed up by those archive sites?

6 upvotesbsutansalt5 years ago

Not really. Some will be by the larger Internet archive website and Google cache, but not all.

1 upvotesKill_Your_Ego5 years ago

There are links in the misandry bubble that go to spearhead articles that no longer exist. It's a shame.

24 upvotesDanReggins5 years ago

Reddit has banned controversial subreddits before, along with shadowbanning anyone who participated -- even if they were using separate accounts. They'd get the user's main accounts, too.

There are other places that already exist that are mostly SJC-free.

9 upvotesnaturalredpill5 years ago

Good. I will be out of here any way. I hope reddit lives long as the other myspace.

22 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

Everyone follow http://therationalmale.com/. Rollo's site is really good. Probably the most comprehensive blog on RP theory in the manosphere.

253 upvotes8thhenry5 years ago

Which books will they be burning? 21st century nazis.

28 upvotesRathadin5 years ago

I want to see them ban /r/redpillwomen after this subreddit gets blown up, that'd be some hilarious shit.

50 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

They'll probably get a pussy pass.

5 upvotes1independentmale5 years ago

They'll ban it "for their own protection." I've seen posts by SJWs claiming RP women need rescuing from RP men who have abused and brainwashed them.

5 upvoteskrustytheclown25 years ago

I'm a dude but I think that subreddit is pretty cool. They prescribe to the same principles as we do and their members encourage somewhat submissive behavior.

-2 upvotesFatStig5 years ago

They try. The hamster reigns supreme even there though.

1 upvoteskrustytheclown25 years ago

if you don't mind can you explain "hamstering" to me? I am new and don't have a firm understanding.

2 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

in a term "fallacious thinking."

16 upvotesNoRegretj5 years ago

I almost want to wonder how it'll be written down in history; but I won't be here to read it so fuck it who cares.

37 upvotessailorJery5 years ago

In the words of Achilles, that's why no one will remember your name.

1 upvotescrazytrpr4 years ago

99.99% of RP are not of Achilles stature. No one will remember their names if they go down in flames fighting to the death for TRP either.

84 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Surely you understand the difference between a company deciding what is or is not allowed on its website and state sponsored censorship, right?

14 upvotesInfiniteBauer5 years ago

Of course reddit can do whatever it pleases, but something doesn't have to be unconstitutional to be subject to criticism. Freedom of speech is a private value in addition to a public right.

91 upvotesrpkarma5 years ago

It's a shame you're down voted, as you have a decent point.

Where the lines blur however, is that the Internet is almost a state unto itself. However, it's a "state" that's entirely owned by corporations. That's why it's worrying, as while you are correct, the corporations that own the Internet could ban your speech, and enact that ban rather simply.

That's why it's worrying. Imo anyway.

30 upvotesCypher2115 years ago

His point isn't really valid to be honest as the parallel isn't about state sponsored censorship vs website censorship. This is about institutional censorship, and we see this happening at all levels - in companies, in intellectual circles, at a state level, on websites, the list goes on. Institutional censorship is always bad no matter what organisation is endorsing or enforcing it.

3 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

Institutional censorship is always bad no matter what organisation is endorsing or enforcing it.

Unless they're censoring trolls/shills.

10 upvotesLt_Muffintoes5 years ago

If a community is vulnerable to them, it's not worth much. You can't troll mathematicians, because what they are discussing is rigorous and true. If the red pill is fundamentally true, trolling and shilling are very obvious.

3 upvotesCypher2115 years ago

I originally wrote a reply disagreeing with you but the more I think about it the more I agree - that's a fair point.

3 upvoteslongerdistance5 years ago

In many places on the internet "troll" has become synonymous with "someone who disagrees with me".

Don't underestimate the ability of people to change the meaning of words to fit their agenda.

0 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

no. Censorship is censorship.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Freedom of speech was created to protect you from the state and nothing else. If reddit doesn't let you speak, there's nobody stopping you from making a better website yourself.

5 upvotestones20135 years ago

up until recently reddit represented itself as being very libertarian and a haven for free speech. But now its owned by a big company thats image conscious. And they got pretty damn big and rich by representing themselves as such. Reddit wouldnt exist today if they had been censor happy in the beginning.

10 upvotesaazav5 years ago

Then it's institution sponsored censorship, with Reddit being the censor.

6 upvotesThePedanticCynic5 years ago

Corporations run the world, not governments.

Read the second and third books of the Foundation series. The Mule and the Trade Federation. That's where we are now.

I don't know who the Mule is in this analogy, but we have plenty of corporate interests running the US; and they're not even hiding it anymore. That's how in control they are.

2 upvotesoccupythekitchen5 years ago

Yeah but reddit is successful because it gives different people different safe heaven for different people to discuss their opinions. They could censor theredpill to not go to r!front but other than that is bullshit

-1 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

that still has to be enforced. At what point does government get to coerce private people to act on their private property to a non-shareholder?

Imagine reddit were your house, and someone wanted the right to yell like an idiot in there about the KKK, would anyone be against kicking him out? What if it were a more palatable message? Should that make a difference?

Either way, until you have shares, or a placard with your name on it, remember the power dynamic here, you have none

1 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

and someone wanted the right to yell like an idiot in there about the KKK, would anyone be against kicking him out?

No. If the site owner decides that a specific person or a specific message are not welcome on his website, they have the right to remove those people and messages. i.e., you do not have the RIGHT to speak freely in a private forum.

Of course all of this comes with the open admission of censorship. Reddit would need to be formally recognized as a place for SOME ideas.

And thankfully due to the free nature of information, reddit censoring people would ultimately mean the "cool" people being censored will go find a home somewhere else which would ultimately replace reddit.

As a general rule, the more censored a forum, the less populated a forum.

1 upvotesrpkarma5 years ago

Man you're all ascribing thoughts to me that I don't have. I was just pointing out that while state censorship is different to institutional censorship, the oddity that is the Internet has blurred some lines.

2 upvotesrattamahatta5 years ago

The poster was responding with a less nuanced approach in mind: "book burning" and "Nazis".

28 upvotesAnderfail5 years ago

Come on man, you do realize they want to get this shit codified into fucking law right? These people are authoritarian and want total control over you and your own thoughts. Their endgame literally IS 1984 where you will go to prison for "wrongthink". Blow them off at your own mercy, but I won't be sticking my head in the sand.

24 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

All hail the second amendment! It was designed as a defence against such tyranny. Lock and load boys. The founding fathers would be disgusted.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Fuck the zombie kings. Our rights only exist in the effect that we can enforce them.

2 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

Grab yer pitchforks guns afforded to you by the zombie kings then!

2 upvotesShekelBanker5 years ago

I see your point but might I remind you not everyone's an American? I'd be looking into at least 8 years jail if the government finds out I own an AK from the 1989 revolution.

5 upvotesmy_sfw_alias5 years ago

Spoiler alert: They just found out.

23 upvotesDrXaos5 years ago

The algorithm to determine what is allowed on its website will be governed 100% by the desire to monetize from mainstream advertisers.

That will be the exclusive arbiter: might these upset the sensibilities of any advertiser in Indiana or their customers? If so, it's out.

BTW the CEO of Reddit is suing a previous employer over sexual harassment and discrimination.

26 upvotesFatStig5 years ago

Women are the primary consumers. Anything that upsets their feelz will be banned.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

If you don't like the way the ceo is acting why don't you send a message and stop using her product?

1 upvotesNewdist25 years ago

I'm already using adblock.

Fight the power, man.

0 upvotesGhostInTheRedPill5 years ago

The algorithm to determine what is allowed on its website will be governed 100% by the desire to monetize from mainstream advertisers.

Therefore we should be buying directly from the ads shown on the subreddit's pages, more than any other part of reddit, if we wish to best protect this space.

As shillish as I felt typing that, it's the fucking reality of the situation.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Yes, but Reddit is (supposedly) very much about free speech.

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Free speech only goes as far as I agree with the opinion stated.

2 upvotesNS_white5 years ago

I'm sure he does. However, that doesn't mean we can't do something about it

0 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

like go to the 10,000 other places that would serve the same function?

2 upvotesNS_white5 years ago

I think for the sake of the community it would be best to stay here. We need to act as a chip in the feminist agenda, something someone from reddit can stumble up and become awakened.

1 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

I don't have women that I'm not even sleeping with change my behavior

3 upvoteslolskaters5 years ago

Both SJWs and Nazis are/were very effective at censoring speech containing viewpoints differing from their own.

Pointing out the difference in the measures taken by each group to bring about that censorship shows that you are missing the point completely.

10 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

I really wish we'd stop using the nazi comparison. It's become so cliche it's almost a meme at this point, pointing out hyperbolic rhetoric

surely you can find someone else in history other than the nazis and the commies who stifle speech

5 upvoteslolskaters5 years ago

Yeah, the difference between nazis/commies and SJWs is that the only power the SJWs have are twitter campaigns that get the occasional Mozilla CEO fired.

1 upvotescrazytrpr4 years ago

If you can get the CEO fired that is power enough, they can get you fired again and again. That's a tough way to make a living. You don't need brownshirts if all it takes is a twitter campaign.

-1 upvotesOchreata5 years ago

The is especially so because the vast majority of people's perceptions of the "Nazis" comes from Allied propaganda. There's an irony there most miss....

0 upvotesDev_on5 years ago

Are you being obtuse on purpose?

-2 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

You've missed the point completely.

3 upvoteslolskaters5 years ago

Censorship is censorship. Whether or not the censorship is state sponsored doesn't say much unless we're talking about the legality of it.

1 upvotescrazytrpr4 years ago

Reddit can do what it likes just like we can take our eyeballs elsewhere at least for now. People have to understand that no amount blathering about the first amendment will change that.

I do agree private censorship is still censorship. Unfortunately it has to be combated differently. You cannot simply sue or protest: I have a right blah blah!!! and expect to "win".

Surrendering by moving off reddit would be an answer.

Second, OPSEC, time to change names more frequently. Frankly I don't care what reddit does, I do care if I lose my job.

1 upvotesjagrmeister7215 years ago

Censorship refers to restricting free expression, irrespective of whether the restriction comes from the government or elsewhere. In this case, pressure groups are attempting to do just that across various channels. Corporations can do as they please, they have the right; and we should exercise our right to criticize their attempts to control information by adherence to social agendas.

1 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

What you have forgotten in the process of your reasoning is that there is no longer a difference between reddit™ and the state. For example, DARPA aka a branch of the goverment, funds DIGRA, who plans and funds things like Feminist Frequency. This example is FAR from an exhaustive list of examples of leaks and times when it has been shown that government force is behind a campaign for censorship or datamining.

It wasn't long ago that I saw Reddit™ admins were actually trading information with government branches.

From Google™ to TimeWarner™ the MEDIUM of your information is actually being used to influence the CONTENT of your information.

This is not science fiction, or fantasy. At this point, it's common knowledge. Censorship on websites are just expressions of censorship from the state.

(though of course this cannot ALWAYS be said to be true, it cannot ALWAYS be said to not be true either.)

1 upvotes8thhenry5 years ago

Yes I do but these same Internet thought police have their hooks in the schools/government. For another topic but the BS my kids hear school echoes the SJW crap here. My last few years in the army were more about being Beta boy than a soldier.

1 upvotessailorJery5 years ago

think about from whence the pressure to decide the rules for content come

1 upvotesForensicFungineer5 years ago

It's not state sponsored, but it is borne from a mob mentality and carried along by threats of non-conformity to the politically correct status quo.

You can look up a hundred people that were doxxed and reprimanded because of perfectly legal opinions that they had.

1 upvotesniczar5 years ago

Censorship is censorship, whether state-sponsored or not.

111 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

This is exactly what happened with 4chan

Being offensive is the new being communist

McCarthyism witchunting in the 21st century

12 upvotesHV1235 years ago

You hit the nail on the head with a massive sledge hammer.

The law, in the anglosphere, at least is massively shifting over to "offence" being an offence.

3 upvotesLD_in_MT5 years ago

A lot of cool websites we're created by people in their 20's who were full of idealism. After a decade, many have decided it's time to move on/cash in. Corporations take over and all corporations can agree about is profit. You can say whatever you want so long as it doesn't threaten profitability.

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37 upvotesShade_Raven5 years ago

Moot bent over to SJWs a while ago and now he has even left because its shit

24 upvoteseinexile5 years ago

4chan has been overrun by moderators with social justice leanings. Moot personally banned GamerGate and related discussions from the entire site, then spent a week or two dicking around with /pol/ until most of its regulars left for greener pastures.

That board has since been restored, but it's a much bigger shithole now than it was a few months ago. Where it was once a place where outcasts went to debate with people who value free speech, it is now a place where outcasts go to jerk each other off. The people who value free speech all left.

Edit - Maybe they're just having a good night, but 4chan /pol/ is actually in pretty good shape right now. I don't wish 4chan well but I also don't want to lie about them or kick them while they're down.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

I hear people are assembling at 8ch.net

3 upvoteseinexile5 years ago

You didn't hear it from me.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

You obviously haven't been on /v/ or /pol/ lately

6 upvotesinternet_terrorist5 years ago

4chan

it's going to change without moot

13 upvotesbm2l5 years ago

Do research before commenting.

3 upvoteslegauge5 years ago

http://p.pomf.se/5801

Time to wake up and smell the shitstorm coming.

18 upvotesbalalasaurus5 years ago

/u/3409852034 has thankfully compiled a handbook of Red Pill posts. Definitely worth checking out/ downloading.

7 upvotes34098520345 years ago

Thank you for mentioning the book.

In the event that this sub goes down, you can always download copies at www.redpillhandbook.com

59 upvotesjohnyann5 years ago

You guys need to understand that Reddit is a WONDERFUL mind control devise. The up votes and down votes are a fantastic way to dictate speech and popular opinion.

And don't tell me it isn't gamed every day.

Reddit just got an injection of like 40 million dollars, and moved to San Francisco. They need to monetize. Im almost positive that Reddit did some kind of deal with the DNC to get Obama to do an AMA.

This is only the first step. Next it's gonna be about protecting brands and services they're allied with.

12 upvotesalphbux5 years ago

Wasn't part of the DoD or NSA actually staging downvotes and upvotes on particular things, not just on Reddit, but also YouTube and other things online?

10 upvotesmickydonavan4175 years ago

That's how Justin Beiber got so many views for Baby.

2 upvoteswaynebradysworld5 years ago

God I love that song, it was my ringtone for like 6 months.

32 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

This happened recently on Fark.com. At first, many simply made jokes about it I even made a few pics poking fun at it. Nothing major until the deletion of posts and temporary bans for anything someone found offensive. In the end, I decided to find a home elsewhere and ended up on Reddit.


Link for those who are interested in seeing the pics I made.


Edit: Corrected link formatting.

16 upvotesyety1755 years ago

How long will it be before reddit Is Tumblr 2.0

5 upvotesKJL135 years ago

About five minutes. There was someone on r/pf that claimed they were LGBT i.e. every one.

28 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

TRP won't be banned. We see it come up in media as being portrayed as the evil of al evils, the woman hating sludge fest, the self righteous man-disease cesspool... My bad bros, you get the idea.

The reality, we are 90k or more deep of endorsed contributors, frequent posters, non frequent posters, and lurkers.

I've seen post after post, compliments after thank you's after please help me's on this subreddit and its branch subs, that it's hard to even gerbil your way out of acknowledging the movement that is going on here.

I'm not talking about some woman hating movement either. I've said it before and I'll continue saying it. I like women, a lot even. I highly enjoy the company of women, but I hate forces that pull me from my own goals in life. It just so happens that women, when a sexual interest applies, brings forth the most bull shit I've ever experienced.

Anyway, I assume the administrators of reddit as a whole have spent some time here. I'd even venture a guess and say at least a few of them frequent this sub because they agree with it. They have alt usernames, they have proxy servers and VPNs they go through, but they're here.

They'll always be here and so will you after you've experienced reality. TRP will never go away.

16 upvotesUSNavySeal5 years ago

What an excellent post.

I feel like most of the hate the redpill gets is because the landing page is usually littered with noobs who write crap about how they fucked plates or treated women like shit. If only these morons would realize how fucking powerful RP is when you fully understand it.

I mean, my life has changed so drastically, I've actually completely changed my life. I get shivers when I think about what would have happened if RP hadn't saved me.

I agree with you when you say it won't go down. It's way too big.

15 upvotescurious975 years ago

I would like to emphasize once more how important it is to backup the sidebar material/top posts. There is some excellent material on here and it would help the new website a lot if there was a foundation to build upon.

13 upvotesvacuu5 years ago

The top posts (even most of the upvoted posts, I'd argue) are where the gold is at. The sidebar is but a small fraction of the content, and is already available elsewhere on the web.

To lose the archive of posts here would be huge.

-1 upvotescooltrip5 years ago

If you had to leave in less than 30 seconds, all you really need to back up in your mind is just 3 things: 1º) women are hypergamous (they're only loyal to superiority); 2º) they are hypergamous because they are inferior (so treat them as such and don't put them on a pedestal; this is all the "game" you need); and 3º) only looks and handsomeness matter to them about men.

3 upvotesFatStig5 years ago

3 is wrong. Those are secondary factors. Power, status, and dominance matter most to them.

0 upvotesHowasheena5 years ago

Elaboration:

When they're young they are attracted to the outward signs of power, status, and dominance: they want a confident asshole.

Only when they get burned several times, and grow older, do they begin looking for the reality in addition to the appearance.

16 upvotesAerobus5 years ago

We need to start archiving some of the best posts of all time.

I will be able to help with this project in the near future.

-4 upvotessir_wankalot_here5 years ago

People can start by making blogs. It is pretty difficult to take down a domain name. Then the blogs can be linked together. It really isn't an issue. Someone should make a usenet group.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

That's the great thing about TRP; it isn't one single point of gathering because you can always go to Roissy, Rollo, Illumintable man, GLO has twitter, Roosh, etc.

If TRP gets banned then people will search the manosphere and find new blogs they didn't know existed

13 upvotesRathadin5 years ago

What makes this place valuable is that its on a massive site that everyone knows. I've only been using Reddit for a little over a year. I knew about "The Red Pill" in a vague sense... since I'd read Neil Strauss' The Game back in 2005, but I've found a ton of resources that I didn't know existed just from this subreddit alone.

11 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

Illumintable

Great fucking name! Looks AND sounds amazing. Illumintable. We need to get this shit in dictionaries.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

When I try to google your name/site it's an act of shame

2 upvotesIllimitableMan5 years ago

Hahaha. That's really funny man. I want people to be able to find my site though. http://illimitablemen.com/ - bookmark it if spelling isn't your strong point.

I bet the dyslexics hate me.

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20 upvotestoo_long_didnt_read5 years ago

Putting a women in charge of anything is usually a bad idea. They are followers, not leaders.

15 upvotesrandomtask20055 years ago

Depends on your goal. Women are perfect for leading the fight in political battles. They argue over little things like "phrasing" which can be a massive deal in contracts. Consensus building or stakeholder analysis would work well for them too.

I would trust maybe a handful of the women I know in a leadership position (as in two). Mostly because they don't act like women in the office. It's all business.

1 upvotescocaine_face5 years ago

Exactly this. Discounting women entirely for kneejerk reasons is a dumb idea and will lead to you being weaker than your opponent.

39 upvotesAntixD5 years ago

we don't harass anyone,it's when they visit here and fuck with us and we fuck them back up,that's not harassment,that's poking the bear,if they don't like us don't visit here,simple

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2 upvoteslongerdistance5 years ago

post-modern progressive thinking

Maybe today, but the real common denominator is that it's the thinking of any ideology based on lies. Because to such an ideology, like feminism or fundamentalist religion, it is essential that everyone believes the lies.

They cannot defend their ideas logically so even someone just disagreeing with them is a threat to their ideology and fake peace of mind. To save the ideological consensus their will have to "remove" the threat in whatever way is convenient.

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1 upvoteslongerdistance5 years ago

Allegories to be interpreted based on our current moral framework, with no real reason to believe they were written with that intention. I see no value there.

I will say that taken literally the old testament especially is very redpill. It's a very interesting view on the inner workings of an ancient patriarchal society once you've taken the pill.

8 upvotessweetleef5 years ago

If you are pushing an illogical agenda, eventually people realize it's illogical and reject it. At that point, you have to resort to force to make them obey. The force available here is to ban the speech.

Communism, cults, doctrinal religions, wars for profit, fiat currencies, militant feminism, etc. - same scheme, different labels.

77 upvotesKill_Your_Ego5 years ago

www.puerarchy.com

The backup plan is already in place. Bookmark it now.

53 upvotesWaynesCotting [OP]5 years ago

I see, it's http://www.puerarchy.com. Am I missing something though? It doesn't look like a user forum where everyone is equal, which is what makes TRP so great. Instead it seems like an entity controls the content of the site rather than the collective users.

I don't want someone lecturing to me, I want a community hub.

27 upvotesGarl_Vinland5 years ago

/u/redpillschool (the top mod here) runs it. There has been a lot of talk in the past about adding a forum like feature to it. If TRP goes down go there for news.

9 upvotescsehszlovakze5 years ago

The site needs phpbb badly. It's an older forum engine but as a normal user I had no problems with it.

8 upvotesbuckfitchesgetmoney5 years ago

Come to the 21st century https://github.com/vanilla/vanilla

8 upvotesMetacognitiveMan5 years ago

Nah. Discourse is 21st century. :-) http://www.discourse.org/

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Please add a forum. I've met so many good men who aren't mods on this sub.

24 upvotesredpillschool5 years ago

It's just our offsite meeting place, new forums will be either hosted or announced there.

19 upvotesNeoreactionSafe5 years ago

I've seen this happen before.

The original site goes down... the new one gets newly populated.

The new site becomes popular.

The original site comes back, but by then the new one is preferred.

Will go to new site when "it happens".

11 upvoteseasyrandomguy5 years ago

reddit's software is open source: https://github.com/reddit/reddit

3 upvoteswe_kill_creativity5 years ago

So many deleted comments after this. Any idea what they were about?

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10 upvotessquiremarcus5 years ago

Reddits format isn't really complex. How difficult would it be to make a Reddit clone.

12 upvotescsehszlovakze5 years ago

the whole source code is on github, and there's Voat which advertises itself to be SJW-free

2 upvotessquiremarcus5 years ago

made a voat account, any idea what traffic the site gets?

8 upvotessweetleef5 years ago

Voat

I like the look of it. I'd be happy to use Voat, if it means even a brief escape from the screeching SJWs and perpetual victims that reddit is infested with.

reddit looks close to reaching critical mass and pulling a digg - it seems to happen to all forums and "social media" sites eventually. Once they get big enough, the mods get really full of themselves and power-drunk, and start forcing their own vision on everybody. Look for some new "big site upgrade" with a layout change or "reddit 2.0" or some such bullshit as a signal to jump ship.

3 upvotessquiremarcus5 years ago

It doesnt have a few features but it is good enough if i need a replacement for reddit

9 upvotesDetectiveDing-Daaahh5 years ago

I'm so triggered right now.

19 upvotesDark-Ulfberht5 years ago

Fuck 'em. Let's up the ante. Reddit's peaking anyway.

Who wants to build some new shit?

10 upvoteseasyrandomguy5 years ago

reddit's software is open source: https://github.com/reddit/reddit

1 upvotesDark-Ulfberht5 years ago

Huh. I just need to buy some server space.

TIL.

1 upvotescocaine_face5 years ago

Redpill specifically or general purpose?

1 upvotesDark-Ulfberht5 years ago

I was thinking more general, like an upgraded and polished version of 4chan.

I know 4chan conjures some stereotypes, but what I mean here is that there is minimal censorship and moderation. Think what you may of them the /b/rotherhood does appear to truly back free speech.

-34 upvotesAnarchyBurger1015 years ago

Find a bored beta boy, tell him you'll let him date your sister after he gets the forum software all configured. :D (neglect to mention that your sister is a 37 y/o bull dyke, and runs an organic health food store)

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3 upvoteseasyrandomguy5 years ago

reddit's software is open source: https://github.com/reddit/reddit

0 upvotesAnarchyBurger1015 years ago

lol! Never figured an offhanded joke like that would inspire so much downvote nerd rage. ;)

1 upvotesFatStig5 years ago

I agree the downvotes probably are exactly who you described. However learning how to do it yourself is fairly good advice. Saves you money and make you less reliant on others.

1 upvotesAnarchyBurger1015 years ago

Yeah, forum software isn't that bad. Except for some hairy updates, and sometimes dumping half or all of the message database due to various problems. And then the armies of spammers, rage quitters, griefers, and the 9-24 month period where the people who started the forum are at odds with some of the early adopters, and sketchy friends who went nuts over forum drama, etc, etc, etc.

If you want to see a cycle of drama, jump around timewise on a place called bushcraftusa dot com. It started out as some primitive camper sorts sharing tips, swapping lies, and generally having a good time.

Then it turned into a more and more commercial venture, and the forum mods started looking at forum members as revenue streams and content generators. So now, something like 97% of the original 3-6 month point user base have been banned over drama, or because they were deleting their content(usually because they weren't getting paid/compensated for its commercial use). So you've got forum mods, people with 5-7k posts, a million thank yous, etc, etc, all banned.

But the good news is, the forum owners made money hand over fist with all the knife and other product vendors who coughed up bucks, all the people who coughed up membership money so they could upload their tutorial images onto the board rather than a hosting site(who then got banned, and ganked out of their content), and something like 10% of the buy and sell forum traffic.

So, yeah, maybe they burned 3000-4000 users, but they pushed up their usage stats something like 30,000 more in, uh, 6 years. :D Course, it only took em 3-4 years to get to 50,000. ;) Price you pay when you get into pissing contests with all your content generators. lol!

Something about forums, sort of like mixing ex-cons with a few cases of 40oz malt liquor, you just know nothing good will come of it. :D

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise? While I am grateful to the awakening that TRP has provided me, staying online when I could be reading, lifting, or otherwise improving my life is somewhat counterproductive to the heart of TRP.

On another note, what's stopping we, the members of TRP from developing our own website that serves as the new hub of all TRP knowledge and discussion? At this point, Reddit only serves as a vehicle to TRP to me, and it would be quite convenient having our own website.

3 upvotesCloughtower5 years ago

I imagine the traffic would make things cost-prohibitive

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

We are Red Pill. We focus on action and finding solutions. There'll always be unlimited reasons as to why things are difficult, but we find solutions. This is just one potential solution.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Reddit is based in sanfran now, expect a cleansing.

Soon to be followed by decline and closure.

6 upvotesRollo-Tomassi5 years ago

Just a quick note here, TRP subscription is only 4,229 away from 100K now.

The Rational Male is averaging half a million views per month. No advertising, no monetization and no compromising Red Pill truths.

Reddit may not miss TRP, but there will be another dedicated forum. If nothing else, I'll see to it personally.

24 upvotesC00l_Guy5 years ago

Leddit has always been a marxist hellhole. Even more so since the crackdown on sub-leddits any contrary opinion is mass-downvoted by bots.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

We start a men only reddit then. Femmit would collapse under its own stupidity.

6 upvotesgrimreaperx25 years ago

You know what's funny, now that you mention it, here in trp we don't have to worry about each other because most of us are on the same page. Sure we have some new guys passing the anger stage but usually they chill out. Feminism however is just a train wreck. There is so much disennsion and anger there all the time it's like a hive of yellow jackets. Basically trp has been very stable in its agenda and all the accusations people make against hardly ever stick.

5 upvotesNeo-ReactionaryHarry5 years ago

To answer the real question, where should we go, I have a list:

1) Rollo's Blog

2) ReturnofKings Blog

3) Heartiste

4) BoldandDetermined

5) Youtube

1 upvotesprodigyx5 years ago

Yeah this is a good list. Hoping /u/yahyahyahya and /u/WaynesCotting will edit this into their posts.

2 upvotesyahyahyahya5 years ago

Will take a look at this when I have a chance. Currently archiving top 100 posts from each category.

6 upvotesTheReason135 years ago

Successful advocates of truth are those who kept their forbidden knowledge to themselves and formed secret societies and organizations. These people learned from the mistakes of their fathers that any attempt at enlightening and educating the masses would end in ridicule and inquisition.

The "freemasons" for example are some of the most powerful, and also the most wealthy people on this planet. Their had been a time when this organization literally manipulated populations to their will. The secret to their wealth is merely knowledge of the realities of this world, knowledge they've been groomed from early ages to accept and master. Much like us here at TRP.

Our exile is inevitable, its simply a matter of time. What troubles me is whether we will disperse or regroup at a bigger, more independent, more private, more organized base.

There has never been a future for us at reddit, our future is dependent on our independence and reddit can not offer that. We need to leave here anyway.

1 upvotesChicken_Hands5 years ago

I like of your way of thinking.

5 upvoteswe_kill_creativity5 years ago

The same thing was being talked about on r/conspiracy. If some of you missed it, there was a really creepy thing the admins did recently regarding a post about nothing more than a building that called itself a daycare.

The post didn't even start on r/conspiracy, but rather r/saltlakecity (of all places). There was a building which claimed to be a daycare, but no resident of the city can recall ever seeing a child outside. It was deleted there by the mods. I mean every fucking comment, no matter how harmless, because they claimed people were harassing the "business", which they weren't.

I don't intend to go into all the details, as that's not my point. My point is this: how the admins will delete a post and even the mods can't do shit about it. (In fact, if this post ends up becoming another discussion of that daycare, the entire post may be deleted, so be careful and wise)

So the original post gets deleted from r/saltlakecity by the mods (that's important to remember, by the mods), and then the conversation migrates to r/conspiracy and becomes pretty popular there.

There ended up being 2-3 posts about it, because somehow they kept getting deleted, and it wasn't by the mods. I was talking to the mods about it, and they weren't sure if it was a malfunction of a spam filter, or just the admins removing it for god knows what reason, so the mods put them back up, BUT! ... all pending finding out if the admins removed it.

Because, and this is my whole point, if the admins remove a post there is jack...fucking...shit....that any mod can do about it.

The end of the r/conspiracy story is such...

The mods stickied a post to the top of r/conspiracy stating, in no uncertain terms, that they all personally disagreed with the removal of the posts, but there was literally nothing they could do about it.

So basically, the idea that we should prepare for a rule/policy change or whatever is already a moot point because IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING...

Just wanted to let you know.

2 upvotesTerryYockey5 years ago

I think the poster child the SJW's had in mind was that colossal toolbag who was constantly posting in here (AppleNewton) calling any man who disagreed with him "faggot", "moron", "pussy" etc. and immediately attacking any woman who posted (rare, but still) with "cunt", "bitch", "whore", etc. and harassing them into quitting the sub.

That knuckle dragging neanderthal fancied himself as a "big dawg", a true "alpha". He was so delusional it was as painful as it was comical. His every word and action was completely contrary to the values of this sub.

He even went as far as to post a link to a females user's nudes she'd sent him when she stopped being receptive.

Finally the POS got shadowbanned by the admins. But why he was allowed to carry on in here for as long as he did is entirely beyond me - but I'm certain it's the anomalies like him that the SJW's and detractors like to point out when making their "case".

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When the shit hits the proverbial fan I reckon I will sit myslef beside the dying embers of Western Civilization, marshmallows in hand and a "told you so" grin on my face.

8 upvotesArvresit5 years ago

Why not make a redpill board on 8chan.

5 upvotesUGoBoom5 years ago

A few months back, someone did.

It's just a bunch of shit posts right now, but it could be a destination.

3 upvotesInvolution885 years ago

Won't work. It would be like setting up a trade school in a circus. Nothing against trade schools or circuses.

hint: shitredditsays and shit4chansays were started by the same kinds of people. The two communities have grown in completely different directions and they ended up having virtually nothing in common. A /redpill board on 8chan would probably devolve into a bunch of shitposts.

4chan/8chan run on very basic things. Asinine comments about dubs. Using offensive words to death. General idiocy. They run on kek. Let them eat kek. You get the idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBiX4XS9HQQ

4chan/8chan are great. They are great at organising grassroots movements. To the point where astroturfing is their biggest problem. They are great at taking on the MSM. They are retarded when it comes to developing an ideology or sending a cohesive signal.

2 upvotesOjisan15 years ago

Honestly the format of a reddit-style site is so much more conducive to the type of conversation and posts that happen here, versus 4chan-style sites.

Someone suggested a more reddit-like option, personally I would prefer that, or even a slashdot-style site.

If this were a democracy that's what I would vote for, but I have faith that this sub has some excellent moderators who I think will work something suitable out. Reddit cannot kill this idea of TRP, and any wound they inflict (banning this sub) will be temporary at worst.

0 upvotesJoshthathipsterkid5 years ago

This is exactly what i thought. Far less censorship and far less reddit like rules.

0 upvoteshermit0875 years ago

4chan/8chan has always claimed to hate trp and pua whenever the topic has come up, which has always seemed ridiculous to me because most of the userbase clearly supports trp principles.

An 8chan board would always fall victim to being trolled not only by SJW's, but by hypocritical channers who would otherwise claim to support free speech.

1 upvotesArvresit5 years ago

If they let mlp have its own board I think we'd be okay too. I'm more worried about user base being lost I'm the exodus regardless of where we go.

3 upvotesbkmnalpha5 years ago

is there any way to download a mini-version of TRP and put it in a torrent? or at least the top 100 or so posts

6 upvotesCypher2115 years ago

It's not just the content though. People come here for the discussions and interaction with people of a similar mindset. If the 'social aspect' (for want of a better phrase) goes away then that's a problem in and of itself.

There's nothing wrong with backing up content though either. There's some great posts on here that I'd like to archive. I guess I could just go back through them and copy-paste the raw text if I have to...

3 upvotesbkmnalpha5 years ago

if these subreddit gets closed down, it will be like a slap to the face

i already know that most people dont have a stand on anything , no frame , no nothing, and sjw are using that fact, but deep inside i want to believe that people will see what is right and stand for it

but with the closing of this sub i know that we are meant to be lone wolfs, personal success is our only goal , not improving society/other people

i know i sound like a drama queen, but fuck it, if this subreddit gets closed it is a time to be sad

1 upvotescsehszlovakze5 years ago

yeah, the red pill handbook, not very difficult to find

3 upvoteseasyrandomguy5 years ago

reddit's software is open source: https://github.com/reddit/reddit

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

I guess they'll be banning any fitness-related subreddits as well, since we all have to be accepting of landwhales and their unhealthy lifestyle.

6 upvoteseinexile5 years ago

There is one high-profile public forum left on the Internet where you can always speak your mind without being punished for it.

Use it already.

And no, it's not motherfucking 4chan.

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2 upvotesruboski5 years ago

Couldn't sometime get internet archives of every post in TheRedPill?

2 upvotesJaereth5 years ago

The thing is, reddit is a hip and fun place to discuss ideas and stuff like that, but in the end, they make no guarantee, literal or implied, that your free speech will be protected. I mean hell, whoever owns it could shut the servers down tomorrow if they so choose.

People always act like they owe us free account holders some pure, free speech forum where censorship is strictly prohibited. Yes, reddit has taken a stance against censorship in the past, but once again, they don't owe us jack shit, and can do as they damn well please.

The thing is, if TRP was just a group of idiotic chauvinists, we wouldn't be drawing the heat. A lot of guys are sick of their shake in the sexual market and start learning strategy to improve their lot. We don't want to become Japan. So even if the website owners do shut down our nice free forum here, I think the ideas are out there already. The words already out that some guys are reinventing the game.

2 upvotesniczar5 years ago

When you see what Sarkeesian and her band of narcissistic nutjobs classify as "harassment", it's not too far off.

2 upvotesbder3l5 years ago

make a board on 8chan (8ch.net). everything that isnt illegal is allowed there, no accounts needed to post, and it has a big community already. you make your own boards, just like a subreddit.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

This, plus based Hotwheels deserves our clicks.

2 upvotesRedpillc0re5 years ago

Well what did you expect guys. It seems to me the - once to be admired- US culture has really gone down the drain over there.

From the moment your society accepted "Trigger warning" (the idea that language should not evoke some feelings) all i m thinking is that the hopeful, optimistic days when the Internet was the ultimate freeing medium are over. It will start with systemic attempts to ban all provocative speech on websites, and then move to a higher level, cutting off the internet access to anyone who dares to say something that someone somewhere might not like.

The "no harassment" movement is the equivalent of the "occupy" movement. Both are deeply evil for the same reason: they do not allow others to get what they do not have themselves; "if i am lazy and can't make money, nobody should" / "if i don't like this idea, nobody should". Unless somebody crushes those retards with vengeance, they will win, because they act like a mob of sheep.

-1 upvotesoldredder5 years ago

actually Occupy had nothing to do with that - quite a lot of it was to call out massive criminal theft and to demand return of that money. If you actually follow the money quite a lot of us got robbed and still are being robbed and we can point-point names of bankers who did it and laws they broke and laws they're still breaking.

Eric Hunsader at Nanex is still tracking & proving it - he's not an Occupy protester. He's a finance analyst.

Comparing Occupy to this "no harassment" policy is... absurd.

0 upvotesnzgs5 years ago

Nonsense. Criminal theft is government taxation supported by these same Occupy useful idiots, which you cannot oppose or opt out from. Bankers never robbed a single person, they don't have any power to force you to pay them, the POLITICIANS robbed you, the same socialist fucks you probably voted for. Funny how all these Occupy idiots love Obama so much even though he was the guy who signed off on vast amounts of state theft, consigning future generations to debt slavery. If these people hated theft so much they would be libertarian capitalists!

These socialist idiots are complaining about the enormous bail-outs paid to bankers which were used to maintain profits. In their stupidity they rushed to blame "capitalist greed" (an oxymoron) when the original problem was government itself undermining the free-market and its natural selection process of bad businesses going bust. So the politicians steal money from taxpayers, give it to bankers, bankers say "Oh, well thanks, guess we'll just carry on then", and all these hippy retards set up tents in the street to demand more taxation and more government.

I am fucking sick to death of this banker-hate. You're either on the side of free trade and competition or you're on the side of state theft and subsidisation. Beta males and women tend to be socialists for a reason - they hate competition and natural selection whether its in the dating world or the business world. Don't be a fucking socialist.

1 upvotesoldredder5 years ago

Nonsense. Criminal theft is government taxation supported by these same Occupy useful idiots

Nonsense: most of the Occupy people were against that, not for it.

Some didn't even understand it, which isn't good but is expected because in school no one is taught to use critical thinking or look for evidence.

The bankers are robbers breaking racketeering laws, insider-trading and forging court documents to transfer ownership of property (houses, bank accounts) with NO legal precedent to allow them to do so.

For example: Bank of America foreclosed on homes they had no legal claim on, including homes which HAD NO MORTGAGE TO ANYONE!!

I can't just kick you out of your no-mortgage house and claim you're in arrears to pay me on a loan and it's collateral.

I can't just forge documents in a court of law and make you homeless then sell your home or demolish it.

But that's precisely what Bank of America did.

That's theft, fraud, racketeering and several felonies per event and we're talking THOUSANDS of such events.

4 upvotesherewegoaga1n5 years ago

Everyone meet back up at 8chan. It's been an honor serving with you blokes. Goodnight and good luck.

R.I.P. TRP on reddit. "Gone but not forgotten."

3 upvotesLoWii5 years ago

I don't think the sub will be banned over something like this. The only subs that have been banned in my knowledge were subs for which the legality of the content was highly debatable, like /r/jailbait. Reddit and most online communities usually do support freedom of speech, in the true sense of the term.

28 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

4chan used to be the poster-child of allowing everything except that which is outright illegal, now they're swamp of SJW crap with mods "sanitizing" the site.

13 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

honestly moot is such a pussy for doing that. he has no honor and should die for it.

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his site will slowly die and he will have nothing

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0 upvoteswaynebradysworld5 years ago

I'm sure you have heard this before, but it helps quell bitterness regarding human nature.

Women, like water, take the shape of the container they are in.

1 upvotestensorstrength5 years ago

Looks like its time for there to be a new Reddit

1 upvotessundaybrunch115 years ago

This is the time when I truly hoped reddit had a significant rival...

1 upvotesCoffeeMetalandBone5 years ago

Seriously has anyone set up a forum yet?

1 upvotesEntrefut5 years ago

If Redpill gets taken down, I'll take myself elsewhere and laugh at how Reddit is digging it's own grave.

Edit: This is probably the one Sub that would come in handy for when the SJWs start demanding more than reddit expected. Only a matter of time before they'll all be confused as to why they're being used and they need the insane amount of information on this sub to figure it out.

1 upvotes_random_user_15 years ago

I thought free speech was unbiased what the hell is this ? banning a reddit page because they don't follow the "women are heavenly beings" bullshit. We don't abuse anybody here but I guess this feminist monster is only going to damage itself pretty bad brace yourselves people.

1 upvotesnzgs5 years ago

It's a private website, there is no free speech, they can ban whatever they like. Telling private individuals and companies what to do is something feminists would do.

The sensible free-market response is to leave reddit and create a new hub somewhere else.

1 upvotesPadre555 years ago

Ah, in a way such bannings and censorship would be a good thing overall.

Even Reddit, which is basically merely a hodge podge of subjects/interests, eventually comes under such controls. Free Speech and exchange of ideas is merely an ideal after all and one that is discarded to protect the status quo once a sufficient base is achieved.

Ban TRP and the exiles will merely filter elsewhere to exchange information and ideas. Instead of one warehouse of 100k members, 1,000 warehouses of 100 members.

1 upvotesShekelBanker5 years ago

We need a Samson option, I vote to take over SRS and 2XC in case TRP and the TRP-related subreddits get deleted.

1 upvoteslone_wanderer1015 years ago

They would be crazy to do it. Its suicide.

1 upvotesSeekingTheWay5 years ago

I am able to set up a custom reddit on my server dedicated to TRP only. Should anyone believe this is deemed required, let me know.

1 upvoteshe-man_rules5 years ago

first 4chan, now reddit. very discouraging.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

WTF is this open letter about?

1 upvotesthefoxman885 years ago

I do most of my reading via mobile so hopefully https://voat.co/ get a mobile app. We should start "cloning" new content from TRP into Voat in parallel so when the time comes it will be a streamlined transition if needed.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

About: *Valuable posts here and the sidebar should be archived. I don't know if there are any efforts to do this.

Is there any top post of single month?

1 upvotesCaptnCookie5 years ago

From a scale of kaceytron to big red, how sure are we that TRP will be targeted? That's fascism.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Huge data dump of EVERY SINGLE post from this sub. Cache it all on another website for searchable access.

1 upvotesHennez5 years ago

I think we should take it as a wake up call: so long as TRP community doesn't have its own website or blog or whatever, this knowledge would be subject to these waves.

There are many quality blogs and websites around (Rational Male, etc) but we should take steps to backup as many posts as possible in order to preserve as much information as we can and later find our own place.

Remember what happened in Greece before and after Salamis battle: Athenians could not defend Athens and realized that their "city" was not the place but the PEOPLE who had learned to value the democratic system and decided to evacuate all the people, under this reasoning TRP is not this subreddit and has never been. TRP is about all the people who have come to understand, share, value and live by an understanding that living is worthless unless you fight every second of your life to reach your best state possible.

That's why I would be more than glad to help in anyway I can in order to keep the posts, discussions and all the material possible.

P.S: As you know, the Athenians later won that battle and even though it was really hard to see their city dessecrated they had the courage and pride to rebuild it. And nobody will ever take that from them.

1 upvotesOjisan15 years ago

Could the mods of this sub offer a sort of "sign up sheet" where, in case some punitive action is taken by the admins, all our reddit usernames would be kept off-site in a list? The mods could thereby mass message those users (via reddit, to preserve anonymity of those who desire it, but in a direct message rather than in the sub) telling us where the TRP refugees will gather.

Like our own version of the "emergency broadcast system" in the US where they would tell us (supposedly) where to go in case of a major attack or natural disaster.

1 upvotesRatherPlayChess5 years ago

To be prejudiced.
i.e., to pre-judge someone or something before hearing testimony or being met with evidence.

The opposite of which is postjudice. To judge after being met with evidence and testimony.

By their own standard, if the social justice crowd are going to issue a site-wide rule banning prejudiced people, I say we start by banning those who consider themselves the ultimate authority in judging people as prejudiced without evidence or testimony.

1 upvotessymko5 years ago

In the 12th century Æbbe the Younger, the Mother Superior of a monastery got her nuns to cut off their nose and upper lip to protect their virginity. The raiding Viking were so disgusted when the saw what happened that they rased the entire village completely burning it to the ground.

TLDR: let Reddit admins screw themselves over. In the end we will be unaffected.

1 upvotesthenarrrowpath5 years ago

These are the very people that the constitution protects us against.

1 upvoteszephyrprime5 years ago

Well, it'd be easy enough to set up a new site dedicated to TRP but I feel like such a forum would decline in popularity. It'd probably be better to go to a new site like VOAT or start up a new reddit clone.

It is clear that Reddit is firmly in the grasp of the sjws. The inclusion of 2x into the default list of subreddits is a clear indication of that. We should get ready to make a move when the inevitable happens.

What I fear is that they will try to kill this sub by degrees instead of all at once. Doing it by degrees would hurt readership more than trying to kill us off all at once.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Well it has to have a high frequency of users, obviously we are unlikely to find something as good as reddit.

Choosing an obscure site does allow for more protection agaisnt SJW subversion and I'm sure porting (Still loosing a lot of members) this sub over we could carry a sustainable user base.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

How will SJW's have content if they ban subs? As all of it is bitching about what men talk about.

1 upvotesMasonjarteadrinker25 years ago

Lets say it does get banned? Then damn we were some lucky mofo's to have come across this while it was up.

1 upvotesTheReason135 years ago

Successful advocates of truth are those who kept their forbidden knowledge to themselves and formed secret societies and organizations. These people learned from the mistakes of their fathers that any attempt at enlightening and educating the masses would end in ridicule and inquisition.

The "freemasons" for example are some of the most powerful, and also the most wealthy people on this planet. Their had been a time when this organization literally manipulated populations to their will. The secret to their wealth is merely knowledge of the realities of this world, knowledge they've been groomed from early ages to accept and master. Much like us here at TRP.

Our exile is inevitable, its simply a matter of time. What troubles me is whether we will disperse or regroup at a bigger, more independent, more private, more organized base.

There has never been a future for us at reddit, our future is dependent on our independence and reddit can not offer that. We need to leave here anyway.

1 upvotesStuperishstoner5 years ago

When this goes through im leaving Reddit. The current rules they have for privacy and harassment are a good balance between freedom and accountability. They are destroying this balance and in doing so destroying one of the fundamental aspects of Reddit.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

What if we just made this subreddit private. We could do whatever we wanted then.

1 upvotesvengefully_yours5 years ago

No harassment? You mean they would have to stop sending me moronic inciteful messages? Oh wait, they can do any fucked up thing they want, they are always the victim. They can send themselves hateful messages and blame it on us, not like it's the first time.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

Already subbed to the voat sub

1 upvotesnuesuh4 years ago

Voat might be the future. Mods are less aggressive towards non-SJW's there.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

It'd be hilarious to mess with them if the end comes nigh by changing up the sidebar and up-voting a bunch of completely PC, kitten picture type posts.

EDIT: Or not. You know, let's just let the place be shutdown and give the SJW's their ultimate satisfaction.

1 upvotesWhereRtheAnswersSway5 years ago

Reddit is supposed to be an user-based forum where content is systematically filtered through the voting system. I don't think they'll be huge a huge filtration or deletion of threads on The Red Pill, more likely it's just to remove all of the threads specifically made to 'demonize' individuals, like the guy who killed himself after reddit falsely identified him as the Boston Bomber. If reddit really does begin to filter out posts it deems to be 'hateful' or 'harrassing', I don't think the Red Pill has any side barred material that targets individuals, or classes, or even sexes for that matter. The Red Pill is about self-improvement, so I doubt we'll have anything to worry about on the grand scale of the subreddit.

1 upvotesYaBoiTibzz5 years ago

Doesn't TRP already have an off-reddit website?

1 upvotesBloodMoney15 years ago

Honestly just take it easy Redpill. I would not get worried over possible theories or conspiracies. Even if the decide to make some type of change then o well reddits lost for the interesting sub.

This a big wonderfull internet that has room for Redpill.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

I wouldn't sweat it.. If they do ban then so what?? It's the internet, reddit isn't top dog anyway. others will pop up

-6 upvotesBIGBIGBIGMEANIE5 years ago

What a bunch of fucking sissy-ass faggots. If these dense pieces of shit don't like what they're reading, they can browse somewhere else and not see it. It's that easy.

Fucking liberal nutjob faggots.

-10 upvotesDev_on5 years ago
  1. Put down keyboard

  2. Go outside play with my dog.

Perspetive man, it's a forum on an internet.

-1 upvotesbalancespec25 years ago

OP can we get a source for thie supposed censorship? I call BS, they have coontown and spacedicks, there's no way they're going to clamp down on redpill when they have stuff like that on here.

0 upvotesomrsafetyo5 years ago

The idea that the red pill is being shutdown is a MASSIVE assumption. No one says that anywhere. There is no source on that. OP made a massive leap.

1 upvotesprodigyx5 years ago

If you can't see something this obvious coming, then many things in life are going to take you by surprise.

1 upvotesomrsafetyo5 years ago

I don't think it's that I'm blind, so much as uninformed. I'm fairly new to this sub. I saw someone reference it, or the members here condescendingly, and got curious as to what it is. I subscribed, but didn't look into it much, but have read a bunch of the posts on my newsfeed. I don't really understand the philosophy yet, and haven't done enough reading, so I'm really just a learning observer at this point, like a jury member should be in court - uninformed, and neutral.

I just stumbled across this: http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/time-reddit-dump-red-pill/

Didn't realize that was happening, and personally I haven't seen the behavior they describe yet, and I'm sure it's exaggerated to some extent.

I suppose OP's idea is plausible, but I still think he made somewhat of a leap. It seems to me that part of the attitude this sub reinforces includes assertiveness, so to me it's not a leap to assume that OP might take an idea and assert its truth, even without being able to support it.

1 upvotesprodigyx5 years ago

Unfortunately it doesn't matter what this sub is actually about. All that matters is the perception of this sub. And reddit sees this sub as a bunch of women-haters.

4chan has been destroyed by SJWs (like literally destroyed, Moot said fuck it and just up and left). This was accomplished by bringing in a large number of new mods. The same thing has happened here on reddit. It is only a matter of time before this sub is destroyed in one way or another.

0 upvotesJerfFoo5 years ago

Suggesting the Reddit will sink itself is hilarious. /r/TheRedPill is a niche community, most people will never notice it's gone.

-1 upvotesbalancespec25 years ago

This will be the death of Reddit.

I don't think it will happen, people would leave in droves.

9 upvotesxwm5 years ago

No, most of reddit won't care. The only people that will care are the people directly affected by it, and maybe a few people who understand the implications.

TRP will find a new home, one that is more stable. More people will flock to see 'the shit that got a sub banned' and we'll get a few more subscribers.

Nothing else will change. Unless they ban more subs. In which case reddit will die by inches. Which they won't let happen. So they won't ban any others.

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12 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

No one actually reads the sidebar and complains about it. They just cherry pick the occasional fringe idiot, or hear someone say something about TRP they just made up and take it at face value.

This sub doesn't disparage women in any way, it doesn't blame women, it's not about women, it's about men and how to stop being a weak modern western man. TRP realizes you can't change women's nature, but it's the acknowledgment of this nature that pisses off the rest of reddit the most.

People hate this subreddit more than anything. More than the most racist vile places on the internet. It's insanity.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

TRP is one of the most despised subs, if not the most universally despised sub on reddit. The difference between this and a hate sub is while both espouse unpopular opinions, one of them makes logical sense. There is nothing more dangerous and therefore hated than an intellectual opponent you might lose a debate to.

-11 upvotescdogg755 years ago

maybe we can convince ANONYMOUS to DDOS reddit until they return free speech back to reddit, once they start banning...





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