The hormone that makes people not want sex rises more rapidly in women than in men as relationships progress.

m4nup · 2015-02-05T00:34:12+00:00

In addition to prolactin, scientists have isolated a second compound that dramatically lowers a woman's libido:

Wedding cake

Waldo00 · 2015-02-04T18:20:10+00:00

Is that the cause of that feeling right after jerking off when I am so disgusted by the porn I just watched.

digitalchris · 2015-02-04T17:00:53+00:00

And the solution for it is, of course, cabergoline.

Mildly_Sociopathic · 2015-02-04T21:35:48+00:00

A while ago there was a study done on 1865 German heterosexual students aged 19-32, all of whom were in relationships. It had 3 main findings; "sexual activity and sexual satisfaction decline in women and men as the duration of partnership increases"; "sexual desire only declines in women"; and "desire for tenderness declines in men and rises in women".

So, for both parties to have their needs fulfilled, the course of action should be having sex and rewarding with tenderness or showing tenderness and having sex as a reward. Now, many of you here (and on /r/deadbedrooms) will know that the latter simply does not work and so, should opt for the former. In other words, the man gets his needs fulfilled (sex) and as a thank you, the woman gets hers too (tenderness/commitment/general beta behaviour).

Later on it said "The course of female sexual desire is assumed to reflect an adaptive function: to boost attachment in order to establish the bond".

Now, the last part is pretty interesting. It explains the honeymoon period perfectly. Sex is used, and in high frequency, to create an emotional bond between the two people. More sex there is, the stronger the bond and so, higher the likelihood of the couple staying together after a decrease in sex. It can also be pretty easily be used to explain dread game and the result of a decline in commitment on behalf of the man. As the relationship is threatened e.g. the woman finds herself competing for the man with a more attractive option or the man becomes distant, emotionally checks out or shows less commitment, an increase in sex will be used to prevent this relationship from ending. Resulting in the man not seeking other potential options and/or not ending the relationship all due to his needs now being fulfilled.

TheRealMouseRat · 2015-02-04T17:20:52+00:00

So is this scientific proof that spinning plates is the best viable relationship model?

lowendhypothesis · 2015-02-04T13:20:10+00:00

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joe0382 · 2015-02-04T17:05:15+00:00

Yeah, that's why men need to have a few mistresses on the side to fix this problem. Science proves it.

2015-02-04T18:56:37+00:00

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nzgs · 2015-02-04T22:22:42+00:00

caber is used to control prolactin sides with certain steroids (typically trenbolone) and vitamin B6 can be used for a milder version of the same effect. A lot of pornstars use caber since not only does it drastically reduce the refractory period (the time in which you immediately lose libido) but you shoot bigger loads with it too. Combine that with the libido boost from testosterone and a bit of zinc supplementation and you have a pretty nice porn star stack.

NoRegretj · 2015-04-07T21:06:45+00:00

We need more science like this, recently most of the posts are more theory and blue pill examples and spiritual hippie shit, look these are great but, a lot of us are drawn to the science behind it.

The recent increase in user base here has brought about the lack of scientific posts and this is just what we needed.

MattyAnon · 2015-04-07T21:33:33+00:00

Anyone else find it weird that science "proves" this, just as men start to publicly complain about it on the manosphere?

LeGrandDiableBlanc · 2015-04-08T14:37:55+00:00

Did anyone else catch the tacit admission of alpha fucks, beta bucks?

Human behaviour seems to be under the control of two evolutionary programs: one that results in fertilisation, disillusionment and a series of partners, and the other that enables humans to develop the lasting relationships that lead to long, happy and healthy lives.

mordanus · 2015-04-08T00:49:20+00:00

I would like to do a massive study and see if you could increase this lack of desire for sex in men while maintaining their drive in other areas. The end result would be men that made absolutely no exceptions for any women. If you took away our desire for sex women would have no control over us in any way and would be forced to fend for themselves. I for one would love to see a civilization of women who realized they just weren't as capable as men.

User-31f64a4e · 2015-04-07T22:19:59+00:00

Orgasms release oxytocin, the bonding hormone, so prolactin plus oxytocin depravation have a lot to do with the seven year itch.

I bet it's timed to coincide with the typical age of a child appearing 9-10 months from first intercourse with a new partner, but I don't know.

I also bet some of this has to do with trying to get a woman to focus on existing children rather than making new ones, but again pure speculation.

2015-02-04T22:45:15+00:00

So that's what is in the wedding cake.

zephyrprime · 2015-02-04T23:14:13+00:00

You mean "Prolactin is apparently what pushes us to not want partners.".

CrimsonDeep · 2015-04-07T22:09:20+00:00

So in other words, don't get married unless you know you have a side bitch when your woman's tingles stop @ 1 year.

RevengeFantasy · 2015-02-04T07:24:34+00:00

Women love sex almost as much as men. Good sex.

If you're fucking her good and keeping her satisfied, there's no reason for her libido to wane.

And we all know most men can't fuck for shit (funny Louis CK clip on this), this whole generation is being raised on pornography and for a lot of these men, it'll be the only sexual release they find.

2015-02-04T17:28:34+00:00

Fuck that hormone..get me more T

UlyssesElias · 2015-04-08T03:32:27+00:00

I maybe mistaken but I thought that only pregnant and breastfeeding women have higher rates of prolactin compared to men. As a relationship progresses, a woman may become pregnant, give birth and breast feed. So you get a false positive if you don't control for that.

2015-04-08T09:33:32+00:00

If anyone has ever used Cabergoline recreationally (a prolactin inhibitor) they will know just how powerful the effects of lowered prolactin are. I think it definitely contributes to our drive to find new partners, among other things

On .5mg I can have sex multiple times in a day and still need to jerk off. Cialis and Cabergoline together and I'm fucking better that a pornstar

2015-04-08T15:52:54+00:00

I can only imagine how the bluepill tumblrinas will try to hamster this away.

johnmal85 · 2015-02-05T02:33:27+00:00

Yeah, but women's sex drive peaks later in life when men's crashes... what is your theory on that? It kind of negates the whole caged animal thing.

2015-04-07T20:30:32+00:00

Is it plausible that this is supposed to counter hypergamy as to not have a man cuckolded? Is the prolactin raised only around their partner?

nomad-oz · 2015-04-07T21:44:41+00:00

So, for both parties to have their needs fulfilled, the course of action should be having sex and rewarding with tenderness or showing tenderness and having sex as a reward. Now, many of you here (and on /r/deadbedrooms) will know that the latter simply does not work and so, should opt for the former. In other words, the man gets his needs fulfilled (sex) and as a thank you, the woman gets hers too (tenderness/commitment/general beta behaviour).

Perhaps a better course would be to become more angry / confrontational daily until you get sex, then provide tenderness the next day. I bet she would soon become conditioned to giving sex to avoid confrontation.

draketton · 2015-04-08T08:48:45+00:00

the hormone Prolactin makes people not want sex

Prolactin is apparently what pushes us to want new partners

I see a contradiction

Is prolactin the "i don't want to have sex anymore" hormone or the "i want to have sex with new and exciting people" hormone?

BlueFreedom420 · 2015-04-08T02:01:04+00:00

I don't think its just this hormone. Women were never really interested in sex in the raw. Women use sex to lure men, and create a bond. Once that's over, why put out?

2015-04-08T03:20:07+00:00

I thought it was wedding cake that made women not want to have sex.

2015-04-08T06:08:08+00:00

Women have a fundamental need for drama, dread, unpredictability, and even danger. If you create the above in your LTR, I am guessing you're keeping her prolactin spiked and fighting the tendency for it to decline as time passes. The problem with most "great guys" who have successful, functioning lives and well-intentioned beta male personalities is that they do not create this up and down kind of drama that women love.

It's another reason why as a guy you have to always strive to improve yourself, to avoid being pinned down as "This is who Joe is, Joe is X and X is Joe, and that's just what Joe will be." Evolve and grow; never be complacent. On a subconscious level, to her it feels like you're a new guy, and her libido keeps spiking.

Title	The hormone that makes people not want sex rises more rapidly in women than in men as relationships progress.
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Date	February 4, 2015 6:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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