Being a wing man when you're the AMOG? (not a flex I swear)

MotiMorphosys · 2019-10-07T17:42:56+00:00

this actually digs at an important question. What exactly is a wingman? Is there any material on the red pill about how to wing or what to look for in a wingman? Even in all the old-school RSD stuff I watched, not much on winging was covered.

the same thing happens with me. I can think of two specific friends I go out with often and one of them I can't really help because he is far more betta than I. The other one is more alpha than I and also in a relationship so I never get anywhere and just watch one girl on the group try to suck his dick.

I get the feeling that with 2 dudes are gaming, any available girls in the set decide if they can't get anywhere with the higher value one, it's not worth it with the lower value one.

KillaJewels · 2019-10-07T18:10:41+00:00

Why fail tests? Pass them anyway. At the least, you show him how it's done.

Try shotgun approach. Randomly point out someone and tell him to open a set every now and then. He needs to get his confidence and wits up.

BTW, unless your wing has solid game, I wouldn't wing. Solo is better in this case, but I get you're trying to be a bro.

DAOcomment2 · 2019-10-07T20:55:17+00:00

Key distinction: a wingman's job isn't get girls for his friend but to help out while his friend gets girls.

He pilots the pickup. You're on the wing of the plane shooting down cockblocks and providing navigational support.

You can't wing a dude that can't pilot his plane. He'll crash the plane.

The navigational feedback he needs is that he isn't a good pilot. Point him to flight school. The initiative to learn is then on him.

TheIGKing · 2019-10-07T17:53:16+00:00

I had a buddy of mine a about a year ago in this position. We'd go to bars together, but he had zero game. He's a good looking dude, 6'8". 290lbs jacked. He just was a toddler when it came to women.

I recommended him books, introduced him to the red pill, and now he's smashing pussy. It took him a while, but if you can easily game girls in front of him, he'll be interested in learning.

Now we go to the bars together and it's hella fun because he's not socially retarded anymore.

Some of the books I've recommended to him:

Rational Male, first two volumes, Models, Way of the Superior Man

He bought those books right away, and he had his eyes opened in a few months.

Also, I know it's corny talking to other guys about red pill theory... I get that. Normally I wouldn't say shit, but if it's ya boy and you care about his development as a man, then you'd point him in the right direction and hope he figures it out. Once he figures it out, then you can actually learn a lot bouncing ideas, thoughts, and experiences off eachother.

BeeBopJoe · 2019-10-07T17:39:09+00:00

You can't game for someone else, he has to do it himself. The best u could do is point him in the right direction, tell him what hes doing wrong and suggest what he can do better.

Kabuki431 · 2019-10-07T19:39:07+00:00

You can bring a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.

My buddy is like that, i can bring him a chick whose dtf, but he still can't close

ToraChan23 · 2019-10-07T18:42:45+00:00

"not a flex I swear"

lol

XT3M3 · 2019-10-07T20:16:10+00:00

im in a similar situation. and you cant help those who cant help themselves.

i tell my boy that as a wingman, i really cant do much anymore since i entered a LTR. but i would scout the floor for him and strike up a convo if needed. but if you are going to step on your own toes and let your insecurities take over common sense, you are going to go no where.

pointed out 6 girls 1 night who would deffinetly be DTF ot at least Dance and party with him and guess how much he approached....

for game and getting girls its really up to your boy here. he has to make HIMSELF beter. you can only take him out and etc. but he needs to learn and fail and fail until he get its. and this is something i realize people dont want to do. they just want to be a GURU with the ladies and game right away.

mrrooftops · 2019-10-07T22:12:12+00:00

Your friend expects you to do all the work for him instead of getting off his ass and watching how you do things.

HoedownInBrownTown · 2019-10-07T18:28:48+00:00

Show him how you flirt by taking charge for the first time, then give him a go with another group and isolate him with a girl while you take the other(s) away. He'll soon get some good practice and learn lessons regardless of success.

Domebeers · 2019-10-07T23:00:00+00:00

Yes, you can pre plan your routine...this is basic.

If you're the wing, wing. I don't wing with people who don't get it, this is why, takes too much teaching. But if he's your bro, sit him down and go through it, you are going to have to pretend he is retarded and go through it step by step.

Livecrazyjoe · 2019-10-08T00:00:34+00:00

Why be a wingman. Honestly if this guy can't get girls it's not your job to help him. Hang out but do your own thing. Whether it's relaxing with the boys or trying to get girls.

Andgelyo · 2019-10-08T00:21:02+00:00

Let him learn on his own, and have him watch you do it

furcryingoutloud · 2019-10-08T00:41:44+00:00

If you need a wingman, you're doing it wrong. A wingman is so transparent to girls. They pick up on it and it looks so fake that it ruins any potential for a good time because the roles are assigned and a specific outcome is expected.

A hell of a situation to be in and you should not be putting yourself out there except to reinforce your buddy once he has effectively scored a girl. But I hate to break it to you, a plan is just a list of shit that never happens. So stop it with this wingman shit and fly solo, or stay in the hangar.

Slut_Slayer9000 · 2019-10-07T20:11:14+00:00

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

Some men were meant to be the Alpha and to fuck lots of different women and some men just aren't, thats the cold hard truth.

I have friends just like your friend and there is nothing you can do, they just need to flounder on their own. Otherwise they will be asking what to say, what to text, how to fuck a girl, what to do ect all the fucking time. It gets tiring. Tell him men were meant to fail, and thru failure you get better. The best you can do is introduce him to a girl and walk away/excuse yourself. Don't make yourself look worse though thats stupid.

Title	Being a wing man when you're the AMOG? (not a flex I swear)
Author	PreEntertain
Upvotes	108
Comments	39
Date	October 7, 2019 5:36 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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