Apathy towards women in general?

nicethingyoucanthave · 2019-10-09T16:09:59+00:00

I don't know if it's normal but it definitely happened to me.

Maybe part of it is the loss of mystery. Blue pill guys believe in magic - maybe not overtly but that's the essence of how they view the world. If a girl likes them it's just a magical gift that the universe gave them. With TRP, you systematize things and can look back at a relationship and understand exactly what you did which produced attraction in her. The magic is gone. It's a bit mechanical.

Maybe part of it is the ugliness you see when you peek behind the curtain. All of human nature and sexuality has been designed, by natural selection, to perpetuate the species, not to make you (or her) happy as individuals. But our culture has been crafted by our conscious minds and includes things we wish were true or fantasize about. Unconditional love is a great example. It's a cultural fantasy. It's not part of human sexuality. The truth is ugly in juxtaposition with the fantasy.

Maybe part of it is that through experience you've achieved a proper calibration of your expectations. What I mean is, when you were blue pill and had long droughts, followed by a random cup of water, the water tasted wonderful. When you learned where to find water and drank your fill, you start to realize it doesn't taste that great. It's just ...okay. So now, you have a realistic understanding of what a woman will bring to your life, and it's ...just okay.

what's the fucking point?

For me, I find enjoyment in flirting. I love playing in the cognitive space that is a one-on-one interaction between the sexes (even if there are other people present). I love working with the model I have of her subconscious - knowing that she is instinctively fulfilling her role as gatekeeper of sex trying hard, even without knowing it, to evaluate my fitness. I love walking up to the line, revealing a bit, and then backing off.

What I just described is the gender-flipped version of a girl teasing a guy. Girls who know that men are subconsciously looking for signals of fertility and receptiveness, and enjoy nonchalantly giving hints. Like for example flipping her hair back to reveal a bit of skin (signal of health) or touching your arm when they laugh (signal of receptivity).

That's our mating dance and it's fun if you know the steps. You can decide for yourself if you too find it enjoyable, or if you'd rather do other shit. At least through TRP you have that choice. I'm not trying to have kids though, so the fun of it is the only point, for me.

liquorbaron · 2019-10-09T17:28:54+00:00

It doesn't help that the quality of women on average in the west keeps going down. Higher quality women that you wouldn't mind spending effort and time on are becoming less of the norm. That's not putting pussy on a pedestal... it's just valuing your time over what little a woman actually gives you back in return (I mean how many women can actually cook a decent meal or at all?), especially nowadays.

You might be in the MGTOW category now. Lol.

Narcissist456 · 2019-10-09T19:29:23+00:00

Yeah the vast majority of girls are dumb and shallow. They’re looking to fuck/date someone more attractive than themselves. Look at the online dating app statistics, women are only swiping right on less than 5% of profiles.

No one wins in this cultural dynamic. Women don’t get the commitment they want and the vast majority of men don’t get the sex they want. It’s lose-lose. Which is where the apathy starts kicking in...

itiswr1tten · 2019-10-09T15:59:53+00:00

Have you reached the point at which you're maintaining multiple sexual relationships with multiple women, or no?

Aurimania · 2019-10-09T17:27:10+00:00

Man i feel the same. And i love it.

Harshtroof · 2019-10-09T22:54:42+00:00

When you boil it down to a purely evolutionary level, women serve no other purpose in a man's life than to receive his seed and have offspring. Mother nature doesn't care if you are happy, whether you enjoy their company or want to be their friend. All that matters is that you stick your erection inside of them and release. Anything above and beyond that is extraneous and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

You can try to stop bothering with women and avoid them altogether, but unfortunately the automated script written in your hind-brain will never stop pushing you toward doing the sole thing for which you were born, procreate.

Yashugan00 · 2019-10-09T20:17:08+00:00

that's totally fine. and there is red pill subs for that. mgtow

GGrub8 · 2019-10-10T14:14:29+00:00

It's normal.

Women are supposed to be feminine, elegant, dignified, well-mannered, modest, bubbly, creative and stimulating.

Nowadays they're loud, trashy, depressed, ignorant and masculine because society allows them to be like that.

Of course you find them repulsive and you'd rather spend your time elsewhere.

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-10-10T06:10:42+00:00

Man 25 is a weird age for a man especially. I'm about to be 41 for context. So think about the amount of Life you've had between age 9 and now and I've had the same amount.

I remember writing something thinking that I should have made it by then. Now these days even though I haven't "made it" per se I'm still a heck of a lot closer toward where I'm going and being the person that I want to be. I really live with abundance now. Everything's there for you to take if you spend some time getting to know yourself so that you actually know what it is you want.

It sounds to me like you're being really interests spective and really develop in yourself. When I look back on that emotion that I felt back then at the same time when I was almost 25 years old of feeling a disappointment in myself because I hadn't made it yet, I realize it was actually not a negative emotion but an emotion that was based in ambition and drive and I was bettering myself even though I didn't realize it.

don't worry so much about how you're feeling about women right now or how you feel about them in the future. I remember going through two different 1 year periods where are I was celibate and not really dating. This is long before I'd ever heard of Monk mode but even at that time I thought of it like that. I just wasn't that interested in any of the women I was meeting.

Trust me as you get older it gets easier to get laid and the headache is less. Don't even worry about whether or not you meet a woman that you like to keep around. If you meet one that you like to keep around it'll just feel like the natural thing to do. Keep an abundance mindset.

I'm married again but things are free and easy and I don't worry about stuff. I've been through it a couple of times before I know I can always do it again if I have to.

25 is a lot younger than it feels like right now. Don't get locked down.

deathhandmachiavelli · 2019-10-10T12:28:27+00:00

" All of my focus goes to my career, my fitness, branching out into other hobbies, etc. When I'm not doing that, I value my downtime and would rather spend it alone than going out with a woman or even having them come over or whatever, "

I see a lot of people saying this.

Honestly, I can't relate at all.

I LOVE spending time with women. It beats focusing on work (career) or hobbies. Psychologically, relationships with women should be, and are, much more fulfilling than hobbies and work.

I also see a lot of people saying that they can't find women who are up to their standards and portray all women as low quality, damaged, losers.

I also can't relate to this.

I know and see lots of great girls out there.

frognads · 2019-10-10T12:43:11+00:00

As gay as this sounds, I really enjoy the energy (like the feeling or atmosphere) of having a girl around who I'm fucking. Not all the time, but it brings me genuine joy when I do.

I have gone through a phase recently where I got the feeling you described in social settings. I did't give a shit if she was down or whatever. I was starting to miss the hunger I had earlier.

I then found that when I was able to combine the two (attitudes?), such as a reasonable amount of apathy and outright sexual hunger I did fucking amazing.

4egonTargaryen · 2019-10-09T18:18:10+00:00

Self-improvement, the red pill. That’s called juxtaposition

Madhatter747 · 2019-10-09T17:56:55+00:00

Haven't found the right one yet?

Title	Apathy towards women in general?
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Date	October 9, 2019 3:43 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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