I'm a fairly fit guy and in good shape (5'10, 166lbs), and I like my ladies slim to normal, but it seems that wanting a slim or healthy weight female is now considered "high standards" by a huge entourage of people as the average American female is disgustingly overweight (5'4 / 171lbs). I'm not going to get out the scales when judging a woman to date, but using 140 to 150lbs as a loose guide, anything considerably more than that looks overweight on an average height woman unless she is muscular or very large framed.
I'm not talking facially beautiful slim or healthy ladies either, just average looking faces - or even below average. It seems simply being a healthy weight woman in America makes you an automatic 6 or 7 in SMV, where as guys are going to be judged on facial attractiveness, height and general genetics before fat / bodyweight. Its simply a lot harder now for the average healthy weight guy to get a healthy weight girlfriend.
So a "less attractive" or average looking man who is fit and healthy in weight can never monopolize on a "less attractive" or average healthy weight female as she has way more options being one of a few healthy weight females around + hypergamy. A good looking man would simply rather be with an unattractive but fit woman than a goodlooking fat woman who's good looks are hidden because she is too fat. Only 29% of American women are of healthy bodyweights and most men are competing for that small pool, so of course women are going to pick Chad, the tall guys etc. Basically, fat women create hypergamy in the non-fat women.
Is a healthy, fit but facially ugly/plain man like me better off looking abroad for a healthy weight partner?
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