I posted something of the following to a friendly chap on another sub reddit. I thought I'd make a post on here.

I remember when I was younger, a group of women telling me it's like a rite of passage to be hit on by older men, it's like a meme for them as they go through their twenties. Men in their 40s and 50s coming up to them, reminding them of their dad with their old man skin and balding head. But these guys were so confident in their chances, they were utterly clueless that these girls weren't attracted to men who could be their Dad. At work, an older guy could be seen as a kinda of a teddy bear, someone non-sexual or post sexual due his age to young women but from his point of view mistake their friendliness for attraction.

They don't tend to get that women don't view men their own age and older men the same, even if said older man has a slightly better job.

These older guys found these women attractive 15, 20 or 30 years and obviously still do now. They've forgotten that they've aged a shit ton and, while they might've had a chance back then, they don't now.

Big age gaps are rare and especially rare when there's genuine attraction. The vast majority of marriages and long term relationships have couples around the same age. If it were the case that men peak in their 40s or whatever then women in their 20s would go for them... but they don't.

It's a well known meme - the creepy old man. And it goes on and on. I see it at my workplace, the older guys flirting with the HR girls and they just want them to go away. No doubt on of those guys thought she was giving him the old side-eye tho ; ) It's amazing how clueless older men are.

People chide women about not being able to handle aging. But I think women take it better than men in some ways because they know they're becoming less attractive with age and take steps to mitigate it. Whereas a 40 something man (maybe undergoing a mid life crisis) thinks that he's a stud up until his looks fall off a cliff - to borrow a phase I heard on here. On reddit men somtimes even get a bit pissy or bitchy about it when you point out that young women prefer young men... as if it's a controversial point.

The red pill guys say that men their 30s, 40s are a relatively better position than women of their own age because they have a greater age range to choose from. Women want their age or older whereas men can date younger AND older.

But a fair amount of red pill guys think that women over 28,30 have hit the wall and are not worth dating, baring exceptional circumstances.

So they actually have a low amount of prospects. If men over 35 or so don't even like women over 30 and most women under 25 probably aren't sexually attracted to them then they don't have a broad dating range at all. Obviously it's not absolute and older (sometimes much older) guys do date, have relationships with predicates that are not based on money and lifestyle although I would say they are rare.

The crux of this problem could be because men like to be able to fix things, and overcome problems through pragmatic and logical approaches. They also put an enormous amount of stock into how desired they are by attractive women (which often means young women). If it turns out that it might be too late, and these things are now outside of their control, no longer as 'fixable', it's a very bitter pill to swallow.

I would recommend any man under 30 to make the most of his youth and not be taken in by extended monk modes or 'revenge fantasies' and to make the best of his 20s which is far and away the best chance you have of dating attractive women in their 20s.