Hi guys, I just dumped my gf of 4 months for talking to her ex through messages. TL/DR at bottom.
I started getting this weird feeling about her in my gut, and I went through her phone (big no no, I know, but it seems like it was of help this time). I found a conversation with one of her exes.
Now I know these girls always have to have their orbiter, and this dude kinda had lame texts, initiating convo and saying he adores her, but here are the reasons which made me decide that this is break up worthy:
- She initiated it. She replied to his story.
- She was saying how much she respects him and how many things she has learned from him.
- They were talking about some memories and the whole convo had this nostalgia vibe to it.
- She sent him a photo of herself.
- He was flirty about her boobs and she was receptive.
- She never mentioned me or having a boyfriend although she had the chance to.
- The biggest one. SHE asked him out. Idk if they ever went out, cause the dude had other plans and refused her.
- The whole convo started 2 weeks ago and they chatted constantly through these 2 weeks, while she was going out with me
The girl was cool. Actually, the same day I found out about the messages, we had a great time, she invited me to meet her mother, I fucked her 3 times, she cleaned my house and did my dishes.
I think I'm half at fault here. I probably did something that made her want to branch swing.
I met with her after this and broke up with her, told her I'm not upset, it's just something I cannot accept. She sent me a big text afterwards trying to justify her behavior and make it seem like she did nothing wrong.
I'm gonna be honest, it hurts a bit. She was my first gf, lost my virginity to her. But fuck it, I don't like taking the easy ways out. As Winston Churchill would say, "if you're going through hell, keep going". Life goes on.
TL/DR: Gf of 4 months initiates convo with ex bf, sents him photo of herself, accepts flirty jokes from him, never mentions me although she had the chance and asks him out... SHE asks him out. All this while she was acting super nice to me and inviting me to meet her mother. I point blank breakup with her once I find out.
I have 2 questions:
- did I do the right thing?
- why the fuck would she invite me to meet her mother 2 weeks into chatting with this dude, knowing she might branch swing anytime soon? Or wasn't she looking to branch swing and was only fishing for attention from this dude?
Thanks!
EDIT: I appreciate all of your guys' replies. No matter how tough I say to myself that I am and shit like that, I must admit, it's my first breakup, lost my v card to this girl and kinda got a bit attached to her. Nevertheless, I always prioritize rationality over emotion, no matter what I'm going through and what I'm feeling, I'll always take the rational way out.
I was feeling sad, still do a bit, and your replies have helped me tremendously. Onto the next chapter of my life... I got a lot to learn and experience. Keep it red my guys. Have a nice day and keep inspiring people like me on here.
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The issue here is improper vetting or failure to vet.
OP posted 3 months ago about a problem with a plate and now says he has a girlfriend of 4 months.
Too many people say they are red pill because they subscribed to the TRP and askTRP subreddits and haven't done any work.
As to your point, placeholder relationships aka settling. It's the female version of plating. Difference is that the woman will keep the placeholder bf/husband for years for decades until she finds someone better.
American legal system and society awards women 50% of the man's wealth for doing this. (Sure the man gets 50% of her wealth, but that is typically minimal or even worse, signinifcant debt.)
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Speak for yourself pal.
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You didn't properly vet her.
3 months ago you posted about a plate that you knew for a couple of weeks and now you post about a gf of 4 months.
Yes you did fine by dumping her, but she should have still been a plate at this point. General rule of thumb is 6 months of vetting before upgrading from plate to girlfriend. First 3-6 months guys and girls are on their best behavior, honeymoon phase, after that phase you see the true them. Hard to lie for longer unless you are a sociopath.
You second point is explained under Lightswitch effect. Good info to learn and now you have experienced some of it.
Now go read the sidebar, which is in the top right corner dropbox under info (I believe) if you are using a mobile.
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Some will, some won't. Experience let's you navigate this.
Compare it to being in management. Some of your employees want recognition of their performance with cash/bonus (don't do this with a plate), some want titles (non exclusive gf is still a plate) and others want the pat of the back and praise given in front of their colleagues (seen in public with you). That keeps the person content or happy, but you have two more sides.
Bad employees and excellent employees. Bad employees you put on a performance improvement plan, which I have never had one pass. They either find a new job (some other guy agreed to exclusivity) or you fire them (they break). Excellent employees you promote. It's very rare to see promotions within a year, but it can happen to star performers.
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The rationalization hamster never gets tired.
“I didn’t talk with someone”
“But even if I did talk to someone I didn’t do anything wrong”
“And even if I did do something wrong it’s your fault because you didn’t make me soup when I was sick last month!”
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What’s up with guys not recommending snooping on phone, when it clearly saved this guy. Snooping makes sense if there is bad gut feeling.
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You did the right thing. Only thing you possibly did incorrectly was telling her your reason for breaking up with her.
If I read it right you told her why and that gives her closure and the ability to hamster herself out of agency.
If you told her you just weren't feelin it anymore or that you're super busy and don't have time for a relationship or some bullshit that would cause her to always wonder about what happened.
Good job having self-worth and not standing for bullshit though dude
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Is your reddit a reference to YAYVIDEOGAMES/throwaway
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I mean, are these stories real? "The day I found out about her messages, I met her mother, I fucked her there times, and she cleaned my house and did my dishes." What the hell?
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You absolute incel
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There was literally nothing he could do, he couldn’t control her actions. To claim his dick game is weak and that’s the reason she acted the way she did is pathetic.
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