I posted this on /r/TheBluePill, here it is again.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/3aiv9b/done_with_the_red_pill_reddit_forum_heres_why/

I'm an alternative thinker.

I typically don't play by societal rules.

I was married at one time, but I know longer believe in the idea of marriage.

Over the past few years, I've been trying to figure out what I believe in relationships. The PUA stuff was to me, mostly garbage with some helpful ideas and things that got me off my ass meeting women.

Last year, a colleague of mine introduced me to "The Red Pill", and sent me links to The Rational Male blog and the TRP reddit forum. I was intrigued and liked the name. Sounded like something that would be helpful.

The blog, and the book by the same name, had some very interesting ideas. I like the concept of oneitis being toxic, men being the more romantic of the two sexes, the "myth of the lonely old man", and even "plating", which, I think I misunderstood a bit. I did not like things like the whole world of men being divided into alpha and beta, and some of the "truths" like All Women Are Like That", that didn't ring true to me.

Now the forum. I thought it was someplace to go for men to express frustration and come up with helpful ideas on how to deal with the opposite sex.

Instead what I found was a lot of closed-minded, angry, bitter guys...many of whom HATE women, but want to use every chance they get to "pump and dump" or "plate" them (which turned out to be just another term for fuck buddies).

Most recently, I suggested that instead of insisting on AWALT, that guys be open to the idea that all women are interesting. This has helped me to up my dating and meet higher quality women. Well I got attacked and downvoted there to hell. One guy mentioned he liked to "slap his plate". When I questioned him on the use of physical force, I got attacked and downvoted even more.

"All women want this!" "You must never have sex!" "You're clearly BB!" "You are not RP. Being nice and looking into her eyes during sex is as blue pill as it gets!"

And on and on. I'm not even talking about being physical in bed, I'm saying, I'm not into hitting women in any context, even if she's asking for it, as this just represents her trying to relive her trauma. Anyway. Hardly anyone over there is open to new ideas.

They have their bible and if you aren't preaching what's in it, you are clearly "still plugged in" and will get voted down and torn up.

Anytime I see a group that's so dogmatic on the rules, sees things as black and white and you're either "in" or "out" (plugged in or unplugged), it's time to move on.

Where I thought I was getting some helpful truths, I was actually getting cult-like behavior, misogyny, and a lot of guys that claim to be "enlightened" but are actually moving the M/F relationship thing backwards.