Ive had no luck with women my whole life. Ive asked humbly for help but nothing has worked. TRP has given me some hope and motivation, but its not enough. Im still where I was when I came here looking for answers.

damaskrose · 2015-02-04T03:45:38+00:00

From your post, it seemed like most of the women you ask out are people you just met? Strangers or loose acquaintances?

I can't speak for all women, only myself. I can tell you that whenever someone I considered a 'stranger' asked me on a date, I turned them down 100% of the time. It didn't matter how attractive, charming, outgoing, or funny they were. 'No' was my default response.

The reason is simple: When you go out with a random stranger on the street, what are the chances you'll have anything in common? Maybe 10%? Now, what are the chances you'll be compatible enough to form a lifelong relationship? Probably less than 1%. Forming a lifelong relationship was my goal, so every time a stranger asked me out, I knew there would basically be a 99% chance that it would be a waste of my time. I decided I simply wouldn't bother with dating strangers. Again, my responses probably would have been different if I had been looking for casual sex or "the dating game," but I've never been interested in those things, so I can only speak from the perspective of someone who seeks long-term relationships. You say you don't know where you're going wrong, but if any of those women are anything like me, then it might have nothing to do with you at all. They might just consider dating 'randoms' to be an inefficient use of their time.

Every guy I've ever dated has been a friend or close acquaintance. If they're a friend of mine, then there's a 100% chance we have something in common rather than 10%. I already know I'll have a good time with them. I've probably talked to them enough to know whether or not some of their goals align with mine. Friendship was like a pre-date screening process, so I wouldn't waste my time going on pointless, awkward, and expensive dates. Rather, I could "hone in" on the guys I thought were most likely to be a good match. And at that point, I'm just as likely to ask them out as they are to ask me. I made the first move on my now-fiance.

Logseman · 2015-01-27T10:47:06+00:00

So, let's start from the beginning.

You are 24 years old. You are a heterosexual man who wants to have sex and possibly a relationship with a woman. That's a legitimate aspiration, and it shouldn't amaze or scare anyone off you.

At your age you seem to be fairly successful already, with a good grasp over who you are and what you are good at, a job that seems to hold promise and friends who love you and can recognise your virtues. You also have a sense of humor which shows in that you rock your bald head much more maturely than people who double your age and fuck around with wigs and stuff like that.

You also seem to be able, according to what you're mentioning, to romance women. However, you're getting noes. Notice that getting rejected many times in a row is also legitimate. Just like you want to bed a woman, they are also completely legitimated to say no to you.

That said, if you're doing all this right, what is preventing you from getting a woman to say yes? Where does the disconnection happen? Since your communication with the women who have said "no" to you is the only common factor between them, the easiest answer is to say that you're communicating properly with them. That is also legitimate. You can be doing all the right things and marketing yourself poorly. However, what does TRP add for you?

TRP's recipes work... on some women. There's a whole /r/redpillwomen subreddit for you to find them here, and there are more out there. The question is: if you're comfortable with who you are, why are you trying the recipes of people who are not comfortable with themselves? Why would you try to romance women who are also not comfortable with themselves? The moniker self-improvement is a way to disguise a radical transformation: the one which usually operates in people who feel sad and helpless and use TRP to overcome those feelings by replacing them with anger. Are you in such a situation? Is your life in such a drain that your sadness over not getting women has taken over your whole personality and left you ripe to join a cult built on anger?

PhantomFairy · 2015-07-01T13:01:42+00:00

For me, and I can only speak for me, a lot of stuff you've said would be a major turn-off immediately. I appreciate this is just Reddit, so you can be open and say things you wouldn't say to stranger. Your post is no reflection of you IRL, but for me the following things say "Run from this guy! Run!"

rather popular in all the schools I went to

I am definitely intelligent and I am known as of those guys who can be best friends with a nerd and a jock in the same breath

I am definitely an extrovert and have been described as having charisma and integrity and all sorts of excellent soft skills.

the most beautiful shaved head only second to Lex Luthor himself.

LOTS of friends and supporters and people who genuinely like me and care about me

I love myself very much, and I believe I am a catch.

hoping to God I find a woman before I become wealthy or successful, because if I managed to start doing well with women after that point in my life, I could never trust a woman ever

All that says to me is "The guy is arrogant, egotistical, possibly narcissistic and probably delusional".

When people start talking about how much other people adore them it reminds me of the TV talent shows, when someone says "My friends all say I'm a great singer"... then they break into blood curdling wailing as 'singing'. The amount of times guys have fished for compliments from me and I've ended saying stuff like "Erm, yes, charisma? Integrity? Yeah, sure" whilst thinking "please go away".

I wonder how many of these adoring friends and supporters would counsel you for a 2AM heartbreak?

You want answers? Every woman is different, but personally I'd suggest toning down the Me! I'm such a catch! Me! stuff.

2015-02-04T09:00:34+00:00

You're not hot enough

Dress better, get fitter

That's exactly what TRP would tell you but it's also common sense.

2015-02-12T03:17:07+00:00

http://markmanson.net/archive

This motherfucker, right here.

PUA turned dating coach writer turned vagabond turned mens advice writer turned general life writer.

Start from the bottom (he was more into mens dating back then and work your way up)

watereol · 2015-07-17T17:41:12+00:00

Im like a 6/10.

I am Indian

Im 5'7"

But none of this matters

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ComplexBuffoon · 2015-01-27T13:55:56+00:00

TRP can get a woman to say yes to me. That's the point isn't it? All I hear is no. Women aren't giving me a chance to show them who I am or what I can be. Yes, this does make me angry, should I not be? I'm just trying to date and have some good intimate one on one fun forget trying to bed them. I've seen the same women that turn me down jump directly in bed with idiots and assholes. That shouldn't anger me? Everything I have done suddenly means nothing if I can't get a woman to just have dinner with me. It makes me angry. It makes TRP a viable option. I just wanna see a real yes for myself in my life. If TRP is what eventually does it for me, is that so wrong? Or does it scare you guys that

ComplexBuffoon · 2015-01-27T14:01:35+00:00

... (continued) that a great guy like me can be so easily jaded and ready to depart to darkside. It's funny you say I'm marketing myself poorly because I'm a marketer by profession and I'm God damn good at it too. Maybe my problem is I'm being too honest. I'm being too genuine. Maybe if I treated women like one of my marks from work instead of just at regular human being I can get them to date me and sleep with me. I should just lie to them for the sake of the sale of myself, because that's what you are saying.