In America, we live in a world that is falling apart. As much as some of these red pill authors don't like Jordan Peterson, I find his ability to focus and think deeply on problems inspiring to say the least. One thing that he said that was impressive (paraphrased) - "I was looking for a truth that was irrefutable, a truth that I could not break down or tear apart. And that truth was that life has suffering and at it's worst suffering with malevolence." Something to that effect, and I think if we are all honest - it's hard to refute that.

This brings me to the central idea of this post, America is falling apart. It's interesting to hear the MGTOW guys complain about how the family court system is all messed up, how feminism is ruining the west, how we are barely at replacement for our birth rates, and how it's seemingly getting worse. The far left liberal agenda is to womanize / feminize anything that is left of boys throughout years of poor eductation.

Add on top of this that we are creating a welfare state due to women voting for more entitlements (not only women, but women clearly vote to spread wealth and for more entitlements - case and point the new democratic star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who essentially is pushing for free school, free healthcare, free everything - CNN asked how she would pay for the 40 trillion dollar plan - she didn't really know).

Furthermore, the state of the modern western female is also in jeapordy - which I believe Roosh V was able to capture in his book Game, quoted here from his first chapter:

Beautiful girls in big cities are now directly and indirectly offered sex more than 1,000 times a month from men on the internet, in bars, on the streets, and within their social circles. If a girl has a basic internet profile, spends time on social networking, and goes out twice a week, I guarantee that she is offered more C*** than even the most famous women of the past. A girl is not interested in 99% of the men who offer her sex, but try to imagine the effect on your psychology if 1,000 women a month were trying to have sex with you. What kind of person would that make you? I can tell you what I would be like if I were getting over 1,000 sex offers every month: I’d be spoiled rotten, thinking that I deserved all those women just because I existed. I’d be flakey, cancelling dates often, because I’d constantly be unsure whether I was getting the “best” possible girl. I’d be bitchy to women who didn’t read my mind and failed to treat me exactly the way I wanted, because don’t they know that I could sleep with hundreds of other women any time I wanted? I’d be moody, always dependent on the reactions I get from women. If I received less attention one weekend than usual, I’d throw a temper tantrum and demand immediate satisfaction. I’d also get bored easily. With so many women constantly trying to entertain me, I wouldn’t be able to tolerate five minutes with a boring girl who didn’t jump through hoops to make me laugh. Lastly, I’d be primed to value novelty more than stability. I’d become addicted to experiencing one new girl after the next, and believe excitement and fun were worth more than stability and commitment. My attention span would morph into that of a small child. Haven’t I just described the modern woman? While a large part of who we are is shaped by our genetics, environment plays a huge role, and when your environment is getting nonstop attention from thousands of people trying to have sex with you, your personality and even your humanity will become degraded, making it hard for you to connect meaningfully with anyone. Trying to find lasting love, comfort, and stability with a modern woman is like trying to have a deep conservation with a cat that just wants to chase after a red laser dot darting around on the floor. I’m sure you’ve had the experience of losing a girl’s attention in a bar or nightclub and watching her get approached by another man not even ten minutes later. Even girls in small towns are getting hit on a lot. I’ve met girls from backwater European villages who can describe to me all the local beta orbiters who are trying to sleep with them, the Spanish or British tourists who have approached them in the mall, and men on the internet who are outright offering them gifts and free travel just for the chance of landing a date. Understand that the amount of dating choice a woman has is the primary driver that determines how we must structure our game. The more choice a woman has, the more methodical our game has to be.

Add to this what is known as marriage 2.0 - described well here:

https://adventistredpillmen.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/marriage-2-0-vs-marriage-1-0/

Which I can summarize (as it's a super long post):

  • People are marrying later and less
  • contraception allows women to frivolously engage in promiscuity with no consequences
  • men are no longer providers (even as Roosh points out) - we are now clowns, clown game is game that revolves around entertaining women - they don't need our money because of the state / feminism
  • divorce is fine, no fault, women can initiate due to "disastifaction", it's cool to divorce in society, vows no longer mean anything. Not to mention divorce is an industry (divorce corp - I haven't seen it but I hear it explains it very well). American feeds off more divorce and more marriages - it's a bonus for our economy.
  • broken homes, more single mothers

By no means is this comprehensive, but with all the problems I've outlined - a fallen family court system, feminism expanding and making things worse, political correctness inhibiting our ability to have rational conversations about important things, gender equality - equal pay for being female and in the same job (forget competence, quality, quantity of work - just being female is enough for equal pay), an ever increasing welfare state with incompetent politicians asking for free everything and socialism (because they don't know how bad socialism is), a falling birthrate that is below replacement level (30 year lows), a modern female who is becoming conceited beyond belief, worsening attractiveness due to an obesity epidemic, marraige 2.0 with men now seen as clowns, the further breakdown of family units which are the best by far way to raise a child...

I know I am critical and can sometimes be pessimistic, but these critiques are in someways undeniable and very difficult to refute. (I know that I didn't go deep in proving each of these points but there are many who have in the past)

Myself, I'm mid 30s and approaching what will be my peak. I've been fortunate to dodge any type of baggage (divorce/kids) but I can feel jaded by this system. I could identify with a lot from this post I saw on The Red Pill form called Michael's Story:

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

Also, while I don't consider Milo Yiannopoulos to be an upstanding character, his writing was hitting home in many points:

The Sexodus, Part 1 by Milo Yiannopoulos 
The Sexodus, Part 2 by Milo Yiannopoulos 

What is the solution for the west? I know there are unicorns out there. And we may be able to find one - sure it's possible, but it seems like we're navigating a minefield. And then what is the hope for our country with so much garbage going in and garbage being dolled out to our citizens. I don't know if I buy 100% into everything ever written by the Red Pill guys, their solutions to just make yourself really awesome, enjoy life, have lots of sex - I'm not sure if that's age old wisdom or something a teenage boy would write up in a fit of frustration and rage. Who knows?

As I started this point, one thing I have a hard time refuting is the terrible path America is walking down and it's not clear how we can navigate out of it. The media is becoming worse and worse, you hear the feminist propanganda being thrown out there and how everything is made to put women on a pedestal - it's not good. And with Roosh's scathing review of the modern female I posted above, it's hard to know if building a world that caters more to females is a good idea. Their egos are likely approaching saturation point - and who knows what this modern female will be like in 20 years.

I don't mean this to come off saying, "women are the problem, nothing is wrong with men." I disagree. Men can get better, we can be stronger, more dominant, more decisive - but a lot of that our culture is against and indoctrinating us to be like the blue pill person that these forums describe. So yes, men need work also but it starts in us getting rid of our cultural indoctrinating BS they've been selling us.

What is the solution for the west? What is the solution for America?

I actually don't know. But I'm thinking about it. One good problem solver I know said, you first need to clearly define a problem before you solve it. And that's what I've been doing here is trying to define the problem. I don't think - make yourself and your life really awesome and have tons of sex with tons of women is the right answer though. Many men who go down that path don't end up satisfied.