Trying to gain some insight, because I felt I may have almost become red pilled.

Yesm3can · 2019-12-18T09:37:23+00:00

treat women with a great amount of indifference to attract them

The indifference has to be genuine and this is also personal from one woman/man to another. For me, this can work, because I am also like that. I need a lot of time to be ALONE and so is my husband. So when we are apart and went 'radio silence' on each other, we knew that it was not to shit-test or to play game or to cheat. It is because we are both loners. We will still come running to each other if one of us needing a kidney.

You know what sentence I HATE, HATE, HATE from men (when I was still single) when I tried to be honest to them about my loner personality? When I told them that sometimes I need my hermit time, many of them often said: "great! let's be hermit together"

They do not get the fucking point.

it doesn't fit me personally

Then you just need to avoid a loner woman who are looking to partner with another loner (for the treating with indifference part), avoid (often) more conservative/traditional women who expect their men to be stoic most of the time, for confident though, I think everyone, men or women, want to have a confident partner.

At the end of the day, while Red Pill can help you for ONS and short term flings (because many people can fake personality for a night or for several weeks), if you want long term, sooner or later you have to show your true self to her. And if you did not plan it to be long term, and it started with just some flings but you grow feelings, now you still have the problem of showing her your true self. And you cannot blame her if she left after, because she felt baited-and-switched.

rhapsody98 · 2019-12-18T02:02:31+00:00

I have to literally laugh out loud when someone says to attract women by being indifferent to them. That’s why women leave their men, because of indifference. It’s not attractive. At all.

_sikici_ · 2019-12-17T23:19:37+00:00

It is all about what u ask from life. Life isnt as good as the bluepill guys imagine but also isnt as bad as red pill mentality. It is all about preferences. Do you want to have sex with a lot of women without love. If the answer is yes, There are somethings u should do. You need money and you need to be good looking. Also you need to be masculine. So you can get many girls like that You can also do it without having noone of these properties but they just make things really really easier but i do not think you can get someone u really like to spend time with by being someone objectified as "alpha male" by the community. I am a guy who gets 10+ matches a day on tinder. I have a muscular body, hair, beard, money etc. But i do not have a girlfriend for 4 years. So having someone u really love is differs from what materialistic properities u have. You just cant act someone else to get girls and expect to be happy. You have to be urself and in time you will find someone. I know it is hard because society is full of men and women who only cares about materials. I am acting like a dickhead most of the time like i have no soul and emotions etc and trust me, it works. People think i am mysterious like WTF? I am a shallow dickhead its that simple. So to summarize it just be yourself and hope to find someone who doesnt give a damn about those retarded objectified things.

Rad1Red · 2019-12-18T22:08:30+00:00

This is going to be long, apologies in advance.

I wouldn't worry, mate. I don't think you've been redpilled.

However bad things are right now, you seem to have enough sense to realize that this is ONE woman who hurt you. Not "womankind".

She did you wrong, perhaps you did her wrong as well (idk), you certainly weren't right for each other. Sad facts of life. Be mad at her, let it out, let yourself heal like people used to for thousands of years before MGTOW became a whiny bitchez club.

That way, you're actually making sure you still have a chance to be happy again when you're ready (having grown as a person from the lessons you've learned).

Of course TRP is going to sound alluring. After all, you're promised a place in a special club of jacked "kings" who fuck non-stop and who have figured out The Truth(tm) about wymin and synthesized it in a bullet point list. Because you know, that's human nature for you, all nice and simple.

ALL cults do that. Religions promise nothing short of heaven to their followers, and theirs only, because they are the ONE TRUE WAY(tm).

Terpers go around claiming theirs is not a cult or an ideology. Naaah, it's a self-improvement club, a brotherhood. Mate, come on...

"Work out and have the guts to ask her out" is a strategy that's as old as time. It's not OF TRP. "Take charge of your life" and "take responsibility for your actions" have been touted since Marcus Aurelius.

Those are just the front, the shiny wrapping.

Other things are of TRP though. Noxious worm-infested ideas that, put in simple and eeeeendlessly repetitive terms and acronyms, help with the neuro-linguistic reprogramming of new recruits, such as:

AWALT. Oh, come on. ALL women? How stupid can you get?

AWALT can, paradoxically, take any meaning they want it to, and still simultaneously refer to "all women" somehow. Seen it first-hand.

Though, of course, when you call them out on it, AWALT doesn't REALLY mean AWALT, it's supposed to mean something along the lines of "men, beware".

Words have meanings though, that is the point of language. And "all women are like that" means "all women are like that", not "wait a minute, that's not what I meant, women caaan be like that, and only some, and some not yet, but they have the potential yada, yada". :)

Duh, I have the "potential" to be a murderer. So do you. We all have the "potential" to do anything.

"My anecdote is better than your anecdote and my anecdote is science", i.e. "field reports". Where idiots who cannot see their nose in front of their face analyze complex situations from an ironically solipsistic perspective.
Skewed, laughably simplistic views of human society and interaction like AFBB.

Because you know, actually making something of yourself, being a good father and a trustworthy providing partner is shameful, it's not "alpha" and should, in fact, not be aspired to; it's "beta bucks" and us monkey-like wyminz don't wanna fuck that unless we get paid.

We all know that the pinnacle of human evolution is being a deadbeat gym rat Chad who fucks more stupid cheerleaders than you.

At the same time though, all women are "hypergamous", even if society does not compel them to. So we do want the beta bucks. Or don't we? Make up your mind. Wait, it's not the beta bucks, it's...

The supremely vague "SMV" (SMV 7, SMV 1111-234/456), treated as a quantifiable thing, when in fact anybody with half a brain understands that the "value" of a human being, on the "sexual market" or otherwise, cannot be quantified in any meaningful way.
Techniques meant to dehumanize and belittle the "enemy", borrowed from psychological warfare, such as "wyminz iz solipsistic" or "wyminz iz the oldest teenager in the house". Thus you can treat them like half-brained monkeys and "dread game" them with a clear conscience, they like it that way.
Entitled platitudes like "watch what they do, not what they say".

Now analyzing other people's behaviour is not and has never been a bad thing. It's a survival mechanism. When done right, it yields results.

But here's where the entitlement part comes in. In TRP terms, that means no wymin are ever self-aware and their word can never be trusted. Men know better and you should always ask men. I.e. the high priests du jour of TRP.

Plus once he "sees what they do", any idiot can understand why they do it. Or, in fact, what actually happened. By following the holy book of Sidebar, terpers magically become capable of assessing any situation from the outside, with help from people from the outside, because the actual people involved are idiots who don't know where it's at. /s

And so on, and so forth. That is the actual puss that goes into the "red pill".

TL;DR: I don't think you have been redpilled, I'm sorry for the tough situation you're going though and here's a couple of explanations on why the red pill is a bunch of noxious crap.

Edited for bullet points.

Silva_Shadow · 2019-12-30T22:15:21+00:00

I consider myself red pilled and mgtow which means I'm absolutely avoiding women, and I will not allow women near me because I'm not in a good place to process my feelings after my last breakup. I see so many truths in the red pill but Im not the kind of person who wants to use women for sex, I did it once with someone who wanted a relationship I think, and i feel like I killed something inside me when we broke up. I'm incredibly bitter at women for the truths the red pill has exposed me to, because unlike all the posts on this sub say, my experiences with women absolutely line up with the red pill philosophy. I tend to read on here because I need a balanced view and I absolutely can't find anything on this sub that convinces me that the red pill is anything but truth, but I'm not trying to hurt women or get women for sex. I'm firmly going into the camp of self improvement and if a good woman comes along then I'll be with her and I know how to handle these shit tests and NO I'm not into dread game or flipping the power dynamic so she suffers, all I know is that I'll let her have me for as long as she wants and I'll let her go when she wants and ill be hurt all over again, so I may as well leave women alone until I can be happy with myself.

A week ago, a woman that I would have loved to have been with literally put herself in a position for me to date her, but I refused and told her I wish I had her when she was younger, and it broke my heart to refuse her, in fact it left me upset and lowered confidence because she was literally telling me that I was her last good option left, I wanted to not exist at that moment.

briskthesceptile2002 · 2020-01-01T16:20:08+00:00

I don't like most redpillers but ams

That guy's something else imo

Title	Trying to gain some insight, because I felt I may have almost become red pilled.
Author	the_DashingPickle
Upvotes	11
Comments	6
Date	December 17, 2019 10:44 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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