Do most men have to come to terms with the fact they have to beta-bucks/use money to attract women into their life and get sex?

RepresentativeSwan1 · 2020-01-06T02:41:27+00:00

It's not so easy to just 'come to terms' with that fact. It wouldn't be so terrible if the women were genuinely sexually attracted to beta-bucks men. I would beta-bucks myself in a heartbeat if that were true.

From my perspective as a man, the prospect of being in a relationship with someone who you aren't sexually attracted to is unfathomable. But many women -perhaps not all or even most, but a significant percentage- seem to think of sexual attraction as something that is optional, and can be forgone if a guy ticks all the other boxes. I shudder to think of how many married men there are currently living under the illusion that their wives genuinely love them.

I don't believe that only 20% of the male population is capable of being sexually attractive to women, but the actual number really cannot be any greater than 50%. If you are a below average man, you will never experience true love from a woman.

M4sterDis4ster · 2020-01-06T10:38:20+00:00

Most men are not aware of it. This is why TRP claim that most of the men are more attractive in their 30s than 20s. Which is true, only if he uses his financial situation or status in society in his advantage.

TRP also has bad advice giving and many men think they will become Chads with plate spinning, which is biologically impossible for at least 50% of men.

TBP at least admits they will be cucked and in polyamourous relationships and monogamous with bank loans and credit cards.

NPC55 · 2020-01-06T03:35:44+00:00

My teen years and most of my 20's were when mother nature made sure I was keenly aware of reality, welcomed by me or not. I was not aware of the phrase "beta bucks" at the time, but I would say a couple years after I finished university I understood and came to terms with the fact that women were never going to love me the way they did my more attractive friends. So if other men are like me then I would say by around mid 20's they understand this. By then I think you have enough life experience to kind of know whats up.

taapy234 · 2020-01-06T03:50:43+00:00

Your question is the defining idea of monogamy for many people.

Very few people get married because they "loved" each other, or that women chose their husbands because he is 6666 (6 feet, six pack, six inches, six figure income), this idea only got popular since the explosive growth of OLD.

Like, seriously think about yourself. Who TRULY and HONESTLY gives a fuck about you? government? your political party? or is it... your family?

Monogamy is one of the only ways people are able to survive in many cultures. Which is why monogamy is defining thing in nearly every culture and country around the world.

Average Men "settle" for a woman because they know they can't actually compete with the chads. This is the reality of most men. Their only hope to get laid is to be a Beta bucks so that they can have children and get laid once in a while when his wife gets horny.

Women "settle" because they tried hypergamy and failed and are desperate to have children before her ovaries get drier than the Sahara desert.

wekacuck · 2020-01-06T02:38:04+00:00

A lot of men have to come to terms with the fact that many women will only have sex with them in a relationship. I'm not sure that "bucks" is the entirety of that story, but yeah.

majani · 2020-01-06T07:38:10+00:00

The idea that women are only "less visual than men" in a pragmatic sense was a harsh realization, but it saved me from a lifetime of trouble ahead. If it ever came down to it, I'd rather stay single than be swindled into a relationship with a settler.

So many relationship problems can be attributed to settling in the looks department, like high divorce risk, cheating, lack of respect, dead bedrooms, resentment, high materialistic demands (she expects him to "compensate"), excessive "shit testing" and nagging, being drama prone, difficult to please, picking fights, etc, etc.

All that for some unenthusiastic sex once a month? No thanks! I know what REAL romantic and sexual attraction looks like, and I screen out the settlers because any relationship with them will be misery down the line. If a girl I meet isn't showing strong evidence of immediate physical attraction, she can't be trusted for serious commitment.

wtknight · 2020-01-06T02:13:32+00:00

Most women make plenty of their own money these days. Men have to start using their money to make themselves look more attractive so that they can attract maybe one woman if they are lucky. All it takes is reading the various subs on here to see how disgusted women are about how most men take care of themselves.

saladfingers4141 · 2020-01-06T02:55:46+00:00

God these threads turn into a depressing pity party.

ontherailstoday · 2020-01-06T08:25:35+00:00

Men are high maintenance. If you don't desperately need one you aren't going to want one unless the deal is sweetened somehow,

30dirtyfingers · 2020-01-06T09:29:28+00:00

Thats the thing, you dont have to have money. I know plenty of broke guys with plenty of female attention.

MuleFool42 · 2020-01-06T20:30:45+00:00

Historically yes. These days, TRP and PPD informed men understand that providing Beta bux just for sex is a raw deal. That's why there are so many TRP and MGTOW men.

It's much cheaper to use those 'beta bux' on an escort than to pay for a wife with another man's child already. Besides, once marriage happens, sex declines for most couples year to year.

Better to pay up front for the sure thing, and the variety, which is more to the male sexual strategy anyway.

reluctantly_red · 2020-01-06T02:02:53+00:00

Perhaps. But they can do this without breaking the bank. Guys need to invest in themselves. Women can come along for the ride.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-01-06T02:46:04+00:00

Would you say most men have to come to terms with this reality?

Yes,

Women are really quite picky with the kinds of men they find physically attractive.

Yes.

Which surely means that most men have to accept they have to use their money and resources to attract women and get sex?

Yes.

Finally someone is realistic about this instead of going on a tangent about how women are evil and unfair. If you want pussy, you better have the looks or the money.

smoke_mardeljano · 2020-01-06T06:03:34+00:00

a lot of men in this decade are okay with it. i honestly would rather be alone for the rest of my life then to lure a woman into my custody with issues of printed paper. these people who put enough trust in their funds to attract a woman as opposed to their personality or looks are doomed to a divorce.

CHAD_TDK · 2020-01-06T04:02:27+00:00

Do most men have to come to terms with the fact they have to beta-bucks/use money to attract women into their life and get sex?

I don't think so. A lot of them are in denial and/or they are still wishing hard that it's not the case.

The good news is that the above applies mostly to relationships, if one were to acquire enough game and only go for sex and not for relationships, that's actually less expensive; (hooking up is less expensive than dating).

topofthecentipede · 2020-01-06T12:41:40+00:00

If you want to date/marry someone that's more attractive than you then yes. Money/looks/personality together are the holistic package of anybody. So if you wanna punch above your weightclass then having more money doesn't hurt. If you're a 7, happy banging/dating 7's, you can date people your own age in your own income bracket, and be fine. If you're trying to get that younger 9, then that usually takes a combo of all 3. But think of it from that 9's perspective. She has a lot of earning potential herself and is already hot. Why wouldn't she just find her equal match? Same with you if you're in that same boat.

CMOAN_MAYNE · 2020-01-07T14:14:12+00:00

Tbh I don’t see anything wrong with it.

Being able to make money is a virtue that you should flex.

Chrchgrl85 · 2020-01-06T02:20:17+00:00

I don’t pay attention to a man’s money. I was brought up to always try to take care of myself first and I have mostly done that. If I want something, I buy it. I don’t wait for a man to buy it for me. Besides, anyone in any relationship is going to get sick of paying all the time; I just want a partner that can SHARE expenses, not pay for all of them. I’d feel like a freeloader..,.

Workaholiconew · 2020-01-06T02:02:49+00:00

Well... There is the alpha alternative.

But if you want sex and women attracted to you, it is alpha strategy (sexually attracted to you), beta strategy, (attracted by your resources) or some mix of these 2.

There is minor alternative strategies but I wouldn't invest on them, it is always a prerequisite you mix it up with the aforementioned strategies in some way of form. (And obviously, moral reasons).

Orange_Paisley · 2020-01-06T17:18:25+00:00

You do not have to be a beta bucks if you are otherwise a good partner. Just pull your own weight and not be an asshole or a clingy bitch. That is literally it for most women with jobs.

2020-01-06T03:25:32+00:00

The victim complex is strong with this one

rus9384 · 2020-01-06T15:19:33+00:00

I think it already is a common sentiment that if you don't have a good job you are an unattractive prospect.

THAT IS blue pill.

Red pill is that you can work 2/2 without getting paid much and still get laid if you have good looks and game.

9penguin · 2020-01-07T09:01:08+00:00

What you have to come to terms with is the fact that women's sexual attraction is different than men's. Men's sexual attraction is mostly physical. Women's sexual attraction comes from attachment, they're mostly demisexual. Make her feel safe, loved and cared for and she'll feel sexual attraction to you. Money may make her feel safe but if that's all you offer but you expect her to go gaga about you, you're delusional.

AutoModerator · 2020-01-06T01:54:07+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair according to these guidelines., just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

reluctantly_red · 2020-01-06T02:32:28+00:00

"Every cheap hood strikes a bargain with the world ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl. ..."

thjn · 2020-01-06T07:38:57+00:00

Men always had to do and represent something to attract women. First they have to be rock musicians and DJs then investors, politicians, artists, ... (men are human doings).
Women just have to be to attract men (women are human beings). Women that are attracted to bare money (that can be lost at any time) instead of potential, are short sighted and not too bright.

Maybelowsmv · 2020-01-06T02:00:06+00:00

I thought women have better sex in their 30s? At least according to girly sites

Title	Do most men have to come to terms with the fact they have to beta-bucks/use money to attract women into their life and get sex?
Author	BumblingBeta
Upvotes	26
Comments	191
Date	January 6, 2020 1:54 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ekmwa4/do_most_men_have_to_come_to_terms_with_the_fact/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/do-most-men-have-to-come-to-terms-with-the-fact.304287 https://theredarchive.com/post/304287