https://www.reddit.com/r/Trufemcels/comments/8qy10h/we_need_a_repository_of_pill_pink_science_with_a/?st=JNS9HDO2&sh=f103c52c

First set is related toward marriage. That’s obviously true. Women don’t want Chads for marriage because they know they’re unfaithful (http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/roybiolett/9/1/20120908.full.pdf)

They follow the dualistic mating strategy: fuck Chads during their prime and be betabuxxed by non Chads (during their post prime period) who are more likely to provide.

And a man is obviously going to feel better with a hot wife, but he will settle with an average or below average wife if he’s unable to attain a hot one, and that’s usually what happens. Their wives are wallish.

Second set: I absolutely agree with them. Men overestimate their looks. That’s actually an essential part of the blackpill.

A woman who’s “intelligent” is signaling that she isn’t a good long term mate (mainly for marriage), since she would also be likely to engage in STEM fields instead of fulfilling her duties as a mom. This has to do with the core biology of men.

However, this doesn’t mean that men won’t date unattractive intelligent women. They might not prefer them, but if they’re unable to attain an attractive woman, their high testosterone forces them to stick with what they can get. Faceandlms explains it well.

Third set:

“Men only see attractive women”

That’s hogwash. That’s simply hogwash.

Fat women actually have more sex than normal sized women (https://sci.libgen.pw/download/sci/59e686603a04465a6a5c4869)

I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this:

While a man desires/considers an attractive girl at first, he will go for an unattractive one if he finds out that he can’t attain the attractive girl.

And the above study I listed simply proves this.

“Man have unvaried tastes... Women in comparison like a great variety of men.”

I saw the study that she listed.

AVERAGE AGE FOR PERSON IN THE STUDY : 28!!!!!

28 is near wall tier for a female. She knows the clock is ticking and that she has to settle with an economically stable male, so obviously she’s going to change her taste about men around that age.

In reality, when a woman is during her prime, she will always want a “masculine faced” Chad for sex (http://evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/institutes/urbanethology/resources/pdf/johnston.pdf), while seeing other males as mostly friend tier.

Also, a foid can COMPENSATE with a good body by going to the gym. Men will consider a good body, much more than women who are concentrated on the face. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513810000425)

“Men imagine attractive women are the most into them.”

That’s due to PUA bullshit that teaches men that they can get any woman they want if they developed “game.”

“Men send the bulk of their messages to the most attractive women.”

That’s true, but once they realize that these attractive women aren’t responding to them because they’re busy texting Chad, they’ll easily go for unattractive women and send ‘em as many messages (https://archive.fo/VELwq)

Fourth set

Look, I acknowledge that the halo effect works for both genders. However, one gender disregards it and tries to bluepill unattractive men, saying that they need a good personality, and the other gender states the truth but is willing to date down in looks.

Women’s personality isn’t a big deal to men. Women simply have to EXIST to get men.

Fifth set

First point: And? I don’t actually deny that.

Second point: True...

Third point: Essential. I would say it might be even less than 20. But simply make a tinder as a granny and you’ll get loads of matches (https://incels.is/threads/women-hit-the-wall-at-40-bro-is-the-biggest-cope-ever-mgtowcels-gtfih.74693/). You will find average looking men who are desperate enough due to hypergamy to chase grannies!

Third point: True, men initially don’t want to date old hags, but if they can’t get young women they’ll force themselves to do it. Already addressed this right above.

Sixth set:

Alright this is simply hogwash.

If you visit the study, you’ll see:

“The average age of men and women active on this dating site was 32 years.”

32 YEARS. WALL TIER. Obviously these women will try to seek out unattractive men (below their looks level) who have MONEY and STATUS. They’re looking for marriage, STUPID.

In reality, statistics done on YOUNG PEOPLE on dating apps like tinder prove that if you’re a subChad, it’s OVER for you.

(https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a)

Also, this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MoSkyaAteis. JFL at people who believe women can be incels.

And inb4 “muh these guys won’t LTR me!”

The Chads probably won’t LTR you, but if you actually went for 6/10 and below, it’s simply impossible for you to find a man who doesn’t wanna initiate a long term relationship with you. Having sex with one girl repeatedly is easier (for sub7 men) than trying to chase several girls and pumping and dumping them.

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Let’s address some other studies listed by other people.

user: mossiness

First two points are absolutely true. I don’t deny them. Women (in marriage) seek a man who’s willing to provide, and men (in marriage) seek looks first. However, if men can’t find an attractive girl (for marriage), they’ll settle with whatever they can (as long as she’s not a single mother). And that’s what happens. They marry post wall hags.

Third point: The study she used simply made the men and women respond to surveys (very liable to virtue signaling).

Obviously women will say “oh I just want a man with a good personality for companionship” OR “I’m in the relationship for companionship purposes!”

Even if the results are somewhat true though (I would doubt that would truly be the case for women above 28), they have to do with the fact that male normies are shamed by society for being virgins, so obviously they’ll want to date women to show other men that they’re alpha and not losers. This is also the reason why men exaggerate the number of partners they have (https://sci.libgen.pw/download/sci/59e652723a04465a6a740f4d)

During their prime, it’s true that women want to be in a relationship for companionship, but if it’s companionship with CHAD.

Fourth point: Nice cherrypick. When you analyze female behavior, all the dating experiments indicate that women will do ANYTHING to be with a Chad, even if he’s a child rapist.

OKcupid did a study on on the halo effect and found that looks=personality (largely) for BOTH genders (https://archive.li/QNCbf).

Women associate heavy negative personality features with men whom they deem unattractive, and insanely positive features with Chads. A study showed that women pre-judge Chads as WAY MORE “extroverted” (socially confident) than non Chads (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4873083/pdf/ejop-11-677.pdf)

Fifth point: And women are happier if he has money, since they know that Chad isn’t marriage material. I already talked about this.

Sixth point: That’s true, but the thing is, they don’t just leave their current partners.

When you analyze female behavior (rather than simply asking them and not taking into account their virtue signaling ability), you will find that they will want to CHEAT with Chad once they have a high sexual market value, and leave their current partners.

“Women whose mate value increases substantially will become (1) more emotionally dissatisfied with their current partner, (2) more likely to evade a partner's mate guarding efforts, (3) more likely to cultivate backup mates, (4) more likely to initiate new relationships with higher mate value men, and (5) less inclined to stay with their current partners” (https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/The-Mate-Switching-Hypothesis-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2017.pdf)

They also become mean to non-Chads once Chads reject ‘em (https://sci.libgen.pw/download/sci/59e6ae733a04465a6aeac991)

7th point: Addressed the whole age issue already.

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User: greensilvermoss

First point: this has to do with reasons OTHER than the “shallowness” of men usually.

For example, who is going to raise the children once the woman is sick? Men don’t like embarking on “female” roles.

Second point: JFL at the cognitive dissonance

This is the same study that showed that fat women have more sex, lmao!

“D-does this prove that men are more shallow???” The reverse.

“But sir! This proves they’re using ugly women only for sex!”

Debatable. Maybe the sexually successful men do this. But then again, it’s very unlikely for you to NOT find a 6/10 or below man to want to LTR you as a below average female.

Women on the other hand fuck Chad on the first date.

Third point: Let me respond this in another way. If anything your conclusion PROVES hypergamy. Above average and average men, usually coupled with ugly females, will obviously question the attractiveness of their own females once they are exposed to women more attractive than them. This isn’t true for your usual female who’s fucking Chad left and right.

Also the methodology used is liable to female virtue signaling.

When you analyze male BEHAVIOR though, do they have a tendency to leave their current partners like women do (as I pointed out earlier)??? Nope. You haven’t provided evidence for this.

Also, the way women rate men is very harsh (https://archive.fo/489UV), so it could be that these “attractive” males they’ve been “exposed” to in the speed dating experiment aren’t attractive at all.

Loads of factors to be considered in the experiment she used.

Also regarding the quote (used by user trufemcel) of men feeling “less in love with their wives” after being exposed to pictures of nude females.

Obviously this would happen since they’re dealing with married persons. Men are most commonly married to nagging post wall hags, and women on the other hand don’t see Chad as fit for marriage (they’re settling with a beta cuck provider).