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I finally told the girl who used me all year for school work I wouldn't help her anymore.

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April 3, 2015

I'm a first year university student and met this girl in my Italian class in September. It turns our by coincidence that she's cousins with a girl on my floor which I thought was pretty cool cause it meant i'd see a lot of her.We became what I thought at the time to be "good friends" who'd hang out all the time, flirt with each other and casually hookup. Everyone thought we'd date and I fell head over heels for this girl. But as time when on, she started to show her true colours. My friends and girlfriends all warned me about her saying she was just simply using me for school work and keeping my hopes up just so i'd help her, while she was fucking random guys. They told me she's a narcissist and a very judgemental person. I didn't believe them though cause yeah know, she's a sweet heart who laughs at everything I say.

We'll I then started to realize that she'd never help me, and when i'd ask for help and she'd always blow me off last minute. Then second semester runs along, she texts me asking if she can borrow a text book for the week, which I oblige telling her I needed to sell it at the bookstore by Saturday afternoon. She then ignores me after I gave her the text book and doesn't corporate to give it back to me until AN HOUR BEFORE THE SALE DEADLINE, which detailed me calling her and her ignoring my texts, and not even getting a thank you. I was pissed, but brushed it off.

She then made it obvious she was just using me, texting me solely for school work to which I obliged cause I was a pussy. But she'd still flirt with me when ever we hung out and she'd still wanna hookup, telling me how great of a guy I am. Then, a few weeks ago I get to my residence on a Saturday night at 2am and she's in her cousins room just three doors down from my room having a party with a bunch of guys and making as much noise as possible, I just did my own thing but knew she was going to fuck one of them. The next day a good friend of mine from my floor comes to me and told me she fucked a guy on my floor last night, the same guy who she told me she hated, and SHE TOLD MY WHOLE FLOOR NOT TO FUCKING TELL ME WHAT SHE DID. At that point I was pissed, but just told my self I need to stay the fuck away from her.

Since then she treats me the same, and ever since then, I have to hear from her cousin and her friends talk about all the guys she sleeps with in my own dam lounge where I live, which is quite a few btw. She had the balls to approach me at a party and talk to me last weekend, I was really drunk and don't remember, but apparently I told her to go fuck her self, and when she hugged me and told me she loved me I told her people who love people don't use them and walked away, she apparently just laughed it off and kept talking to me later on.

Well, yesterday she text me asking if I had done an assignment yet and I told her I did, when she asked I could help her I told her I was busy. When she knocked on my fucking door and practically begged me for the answers I told her I had to go out, and when I came back 2 hours later and she was STILL in my lounge with her cousin waiting for me to help her, she approached me and I told her after she asked, "I'm not helping you, it's not my responsibility to do your assignment, it's not even hard". Never have I seen a more defeated look on someones face, she just walked back to the lounge and didn't say a word. A girl on my floor later told me she was bitching me out the entire night and failed the assignment, while I gotta 90! It was worth 15% of our grade btw, fuck her!

TDLR: girl strung me around for almost a full school year and used me for school work, wouldn't take her shit anymore.

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Title I finally told the girl who used me all year for school work I wouldn't help her anymore.
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Date 03 April 2015 06:46 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]antariusz605 points606 points  (26 children) | Copy

The defeated look is the look of a woman trying to manipulate you into taking her back.

She wasn't actually sad about losing you, she was sad that she wasn't getting everything that she wanted.

[–][deleted] 125 points126 points  (13 children) | Copy

She also probably thought that she was allowing him to do her homework for her, he owed it to her because she was doing him a favor by hanging out with him. Hence the bitching out session to her friends. "that ungrateful beta!"

[–]Luckyluke2316 points17 points  (12 children) | Copy

i love how its come to that. girls think that by hanging out with them you will do stuff for them?

when did this become the norm?

[–]NightGod30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sometime before the Roman Empire rose to power. See: Helen of Troy

[–]GC0W307 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometime before we evolved speech.......

[–]1Ill_mumble_that18 points19 points  (7 children) | Copy

A girl isn't doing you a favor unless she is sucking your dick without any compensation.

Although I've had women buy me shit, I guess that counts too.

[–]copralalic9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

One chick made me hummus once, which was really awesome. No substitute for BJs, though.

[–]Booksarefun6668 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

To be fair, hummus and pita chips are absolutely god-tier snack food.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That would depend on the quality of blowjob and hummus. I've gotten some incredibly bad blowjobs in my time... To the point of, never mind, bend over, ok now get out.

[–]rpscrote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

7 layer taco dip is pretty much the shit too

[–]1Zanford1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She should have blown you while you were eating the hummus

[–]Luckyluke233 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

oh yeah, i don't expect them to do shit for me... I don't need them for shit to be honest...

[–]mrheh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The first one doesn't count because she should be happy to be sucking it. Now making me dinner and cleaning the house after I've worked all day is different.

[–]moiez3262 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Since white knights and nice guys were around

[–]mister_barfly753 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

About the same time that men stopped putting statues of warriors, leaders and great thinkers up on pedestals and put pussy up there instead.

[–]A419a38 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

She was sad about losing him. Kinda like I get sad when I lose a sock and have to go buy another one. Or like when my milk went bad and I had to buy another liter.

[–]Tman569122 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

In her case she was sad about losing 15% of "her" grade.

[–]gweneverexoxo34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

"She wasn't actually sad about losing you, she was sad that she lost her favorite doormat."

be careful of how girls treat you. be aware of the things they ask of you. when you find out their true intentions next them when necessary.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

This comment saved this thread. We're happy for OP finally getting out of that shit, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if OP didn't learn shit from it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh he will after it happens a few times. First time he'll blame her. Once the pattern sets in then it will all click.

[–]iAngeloz11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

This one comment made me follow this sub. Realest shit I have ever seen

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it's a double edged sword, so it will sting some as well.

[–]AlphaAccountant2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It looks a lot like the face a child makes when you take away his/her favorite toy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, just another shit test test

[–]koncept611 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know that look... Because I've worn it myself.

[–]1jb_trp223 points224 points  (18 children) | Copy

I have to hear from her cousin and her friends talk about all the guys she sleeps with in my own dam lounge where I live

No you don't. You have severe oneitis for this girl. You need to cut her out of your life. If people try to tell you who she slept with last weekend, tell them to not tell you. It will just make you jealous.

Block her on facebook, erase her number, if she texts you don't even respond. She's a leech who doesn't respect you and is using you. The fact that she fucked a guy on your floor and told all the dudes there to not say anything shows that you're just a joke to her--a joke she enjoys letting everyone else in on.

Heal up, date other women, and never talk to this girl again.

[–]Meglomaniac81 points82 points  (10 children) | Copy

Exactly this.

She told the alphas, not to tell the beta that she slept with one of them, because she is getting free stuff from you without having to put out. She didnt want the gravy train to end.

[–]1003rp11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

You do realize that he slept with her? It's pretty clear she is a slutty girl and while he was fucking her he started doing nice things for her and started to like her. She saw this weakness and started to use him as much as possible and lost interest. He became more interested in her than she was of him and lost frame.

[–]icanhazTRP3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

OP didn't fuck her. Where did you read that?

[–]the99percent17 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

'casually hookup'. Unless OP meant it as getting together to smoke joints, I would assume OP meant sex.

[–]DownvotesCatposts6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls will take their Betas to 2nd base but won't go any further. Iliza Schlesinger talked about that in a radio interview once, and she even tried to pretend that she wasn't leading her Beta friend on by doing it. Betas will call that "hooking up". Not necessarily OPs situation, but a common one.

[–]copralalic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's 2nd base, outside the clothing?

[–]SwissPablo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I think "hook up" here means "hang out".

[–]1003rp3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

He said they had hooked up in multiple places. Every time I've ever heard someone use the term hook up in college it's been referring to having sex.

[–]switchme8086 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Edit: checked his post history he did actually have sex with her. interesting.

[–]1003rp6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am glad that is cleared up. I believe that even though he may have been acting beta, she is such a whore she had no issue using sex to get what she wanted from people. sex for homework = sex for money =whore.

[–]GRRMkills 18 points18 points [recovered] | Copy

I don't think that telling other people to not tell you would help. That's like saying "Yeah, it does bother me, please don't hurt my feelings by telling me." That's a kind of beta thing to communicate.

Instead, I'd suggest just laughing it off and saying you don't care. Hell, A&A and encourage it (while you bang a bunch of other girls), that'll mind fuck her good AND communicate your alpha status to her and everyone else

[–]ch4os13375 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Instead, I'd suggest just laughing it off and saying you don't care.

Best thing in life is being able to do this genuinely and whenever you want.

General advice here: Not giving a fuck keeps your mind focused on what's important. If you can't control your anxiety/emotions, get some meds to do it for you.

[–]GRRMkills 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy

It is really important to be able to genuinely not give a fuck about some things, but I wouldn't say you should use meds to do it, at least not long term. I'm not giving a doctor's advice, but if you do want to use meds to help combat anxiety, a benzo like phenibut or xanax (for mild and severe needs, respectively) could be used to lower anxiety levels and help you throw yourself into those types of situations you're very scared of. This should act as exposure therapy (by far the most successful long term way of increasing your control of anxiety and emotions), and as long as you don't wreck your GABA receptors or become physically dependent, you should be much less anxious off the drugs in those same situations afterwards

[–]ch4os13372 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've personally used a low dose of Effexor XR (+ Melatonin for sleep when it would sometimes keep me up) for about a year and a half and did exactly as you said. Exposure therapy. I hadn't truly realised the physical feeling of anxiety until taking the meds and after could manually negate it.

I just wish I would have realized sooner because the effects are so game changing.

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[–]ch4os13370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Doctors are usually happy to give you them if you really need it so just say how it's effecting you. Tell your doc it's stopping you from what you want to do in life and give some examples. (Ex. College, going out, etc)

Ninja: If you get any panic attacks mention that as well.

[–]GIFtoGasm7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Although this is not relatable to me at all. You're the type of person I'm glad I share this sub Reddit with. Your guys type of brutal honesty always reaffirms everything I believe about the red pill.

Thank you mate.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan88 points89 points  (4 children) | Copy

Congratulations, You stopped being a Time-Ho.

Women never understand there are consequences for things until they hit them right in the face... like running into the wall at full speed.

[–]real-boethius13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is time that, as men, we started slut shaming time-sluts and resource-sluts and validation-sluts.

[–]mrheh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

fuckin love Patrice's Time Ho bit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

They don't give a fuck. Its the same when an alpha loses a plate, is he stressed over it? No, of course not because they know its easy to replace. The wall isn't as bad as people her make it out to be, there is a reason why male suicide rate will always be much higher than females.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No she just has to find a sucker willing to put a ring on it... but as MGTOW and TRP ideals increase in the general population the number of suckers who will take that risk will greatly decrease thereby limiting the chance for a soft landing.

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[–]ddrj9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

To add to this comment: don't let anyone take advantage of you OP, male or female.

[–]savedarticles243 points244 points  (26 children) | Copy

this is the best thing that could happen to you. It would have been worse if after a year you managed to fuck her. You may never have learned this valuable priceless lesson at a young age. Here it is: AWALT. This is why the red pI'll is so bitter. You were the beta and that guy she hooked up was the alpha. Alpha can nail her after meeting at a party while the beta does everything for her for a year and then gets nothing... worse he gets crushed.

Welcome to the club. It gets way better. Everything you read now will make way more sense and your entire life will be better. Consider yourself lucky!

[–]fake727245 points46 points  (9 children) | Copy

10000% this. AWALT is true for the vast majority of women. all girls, not just narcissistic ones use guys. They use them for hw, for attention, for prom dates, for casual hookups and most importantly for validation that they are worth something. every guy is giving her these things without asking for ANYTHING in return except for HOPE. hope is fucking worthless. make it clear in every scenario with a girl that unless you are getting something out of it she isnt worth your time. (because she isnt). this will either force the girl to give in to your desires or she removes herself from your life. if the girl is one that does that later then guess what, she wasnt going to fuck you after doing her hw. spend that extra time you have now lifting, cold approaching and just generally making your life more awesome.

[–]usul162843 points44 points  (1 child) | Copy

AWALT isn't true for the vast majority of women, it is true of all women, its right there in the label. If she thinks she can get something from you of value without giving anything of value in return, she absolutely will.

The group of women who will stop short of taking advantage of you are the ones who think they have to give/ought to give an IOU in return for those kinds of favors.

[–]zxDanKwan23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy gets it. "All" means "All." There are NO unicorns.

Just a couple months from now, I'll have been married 10 years. Wife knows she can't do better than me. I have shown her a level of self-determination and achievement that is worlds beyond what she has experienced elsewise.

And even to this day, if I don't hold frame, she'll take without reciprocating, and she won't even bat an eyelash.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If that's your only takeaway from this, then you fail at life.

[–]Glenbert10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

all girls, not just narcissistic ones use guys. They use them for hw, for attention, for prom dates, for casual hookups and most importantly for validation that they are worth something.

Um. Just so you know, most of us here have used women in the same way. This isn't some martyrs club.

[–]fake72724 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

never said I was or that we are. sorry if it came off that way.

[–]BooksofMagic4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It didn't. Don't apologize. In fact, wipe that word from your vocabulary. It's not your fault that he seemed to take some fault with your message.

[–]BooksofMagic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Um. Just so you know, most of us here have used women in the same way. This isn't some martyrs club.

Nobody here believes this is a martyr's club. Pointing this out is.... Pointless. It's no better than when women chime in to point out that they are the exception to whatever statement you are making. It comes across as an attempt to invalidate what the poster said.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just so you know, most of us here have used women in the same way. This isn't some martyrs club.

But the question remains when did the whole thing start. I dare to say that using women is a reaction born out of frustration more than anything else. If being a beta nice guy got you a mutually fulfilling relationship instead of being taken advantage of, I dare to say that most redpillers would stick to their "the one" and be a dutiful boyfriend and abstain from seeking out NSA sex.

[–]grewapair27 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

Translation: women are going to try to use you your whole life. Unless you're in the top 80 percent looks wise, they will just use you endlessly.

Not all of them are like this, but the ones that aren't tend to be shy and so you won't interact with them nearly as frequently as the users.

Looking back, I'd say 90 percent of the women who had anything to do with me were using me. For transportation, for money, for homework for whatever.

You have to test them constantly, and be prepared for the 90 percent who fail the test.

[–]copralalic9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not all of them are like this, but the ones that aren't tend to be shy and so you won't interact with them nearly as frequently as the users.

Don't go for shy/awkward women. When they come out of their shells they are exactly the fucking same. AWALT = A-fuckin-WALT.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

THIS. I love shy women. They are my go to personality type because they're submissive, easy going and tend to have pleasant demeanors. But, they still pull all the same shit the crass, aggressive women do, they're just more subtle about it. They don't get in your face when they're angry. Instead, they give you the cold shoulder. I'd almost rather deal with the aggressive shit tests, because at least those feel like verbal combat. When a bitch starts in on me, I verbally pound her into the pavement, without guilt, because she started it. It's far more difficult not to feel guilty about making a shy, quiet, pleasant woman feel sad, whether she started it or not.

[–]Thewinsomeserpent12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its not just the 80th percentile for looks, TRP would not be 105k strong if men could fix their problems with nothing but mascara and boob jobs.

[–]zxDanKwan10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting a boob job so you don't need a woman around anymore is just a variant of the MGTOW approach.

[–]604GT11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]GRRMkills 10 points10 points [recovered] | Copy

I find it funny that this comment is so highly upvoted when he did fuck her (or my reading comprehension is seriously messed up). According to OP,

We became what I thought at the time to be "good friends" who'd hang out all the time, flirt with each other and casually hookup.


But she'd still flirt with me when ever we hung out and she'd still wanna hookup, telling me how great of a guy I am.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

I suspect this is just kissing and some heavy petting.

[–]GRRMkills 12 points12 points [recovered] | Copy

Hook up = sex to me. I can't imagine making out with a girl a number of times and not even getting blown once or twice

Edit: He fucked her. See quote from another comment below,

I fucked her on occasion, an important detail was that I thought I was the only one, she made her self seem more innocent than she was.

[–]fake72723 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Since he says the girl "fucked" someone else but only "hooked-up" with him I think his version of hooking up is just making out or maybe oral but not all the way. the term hooking up is useless for most conversational context. it almost always needs to be explained more.

[–]trpadawan-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

EDIT: reading

[–]GRRMkills 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy

Are you people fucking dense? Learn to read like the other guy, he literally said he fucked her. The lack of reading comprehension that you are exhibiting is appalling

[–]trpadawan-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Calm down dude, it's just reddit.

[–]Revive_Revival47 points48 points  (5 children) | Copy

Ass, cash or grass

The only people that deserve stuff for free is family or friends in need (and even then i would expect something in return, a favor or a fucking thank you at least)

Cut her out of your life, nothing is free in this world

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[–]1Ill_mumble_that5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Getting someone powerful to do a favor for you is much, much, much more effective. Even if its something small and unsubstantial. You can then say to them, I owe you a favor. Read up on Benjamin Franklin effect. From there you can ask them to do you even larger favors.

[–]whataboutudummy4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Correct, people feel more favorable to someone they have done a favor FOR, while doing favors actually seems to breed contempt or be neutral.

There's research, Google if yo interested

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[–]whataboutudummy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just so you know, i didnt mean to contradict you, though i did...i do believe that sometimes it does work the way we would intuit.

[–]Surf_Or_Die34 points35 points  (14 children) | Copy

It never occurred to her that if she had spent all the time that she tried seducing you into doing her assignment she probably could have finished it off. She sounds like she's pretty and is used to getting white knighted.

[–]tristan41249 points50 points  (4 children) | Copy

She's gorgeous, which made the whole thing hard. But i've realized she's a bitch..

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Next time you see her, just ignore her outside appearance. You will start to see her manerisms and her inner self will be obvious to yo

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (8 children) | Copy

And yet she'll complain about not getting/holding a good job after graduation. Even though she cheated her way through school.

[–]Echelon64 24 points24 points [recovered] | Copy

Or they'll just sleep their way to the top.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or have kids, stay at home, and get hubby to pay off their student loans.

[–]italian_mobking15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

All the while fucking around and not putting out for hubby.

[–]A419a5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry, BB gov (all of us) will take care of her.

[–]nomad-oz4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I sat opposite an illustrator at work. He was brilliant very skilful. I asked how he went in Art School, was he top of his class. He told me he never scored an "A" directly. He said he did all the illustrations for these two girls in his class, just quick sketches and they always got "A's" yet never managed to get one himself.

Since then. I've occasionally asked guys I meet if they ever had a similar experience helping out women at school or work. Apparently this is a common occurrence. Especially girls choosing to be with nerds for group assignments then letting the guy do her share of the work.

You don't even have to an orbiter or friend zoned for a girl to use you.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I loved those girls. They hopped on my group for programming assignments and then did nothing. I'd always make sure the teacher knew they contributed nothing... When they couldn't explain how what we submitted worked, he'd give them an 'f'

[–]skoobled1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And the headlines are women doing so well academically. More like a combination of positive discrimination and shaking the goods to get the guys to do their work for then

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet63 points64 points  (0 children) | Copy

You awaken one embarrassing failure at a time.

And you become stronger with each victory, big or small.

This will be your first victory of many. Keep making YOUR NEEDS your priority, and you'll never be uncertain about what to do in any situation.

Welcome to the Red Pill, and to the rest of your life.

[–]barmaleo29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ask next time "What will I get for it?" Just for sake of her reaction. It's a really effective and fun way to confuse an entitled princess.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan46 points47 points  (19 children) | Copy

I wonder how many of these bitches get their degrees just sucking whatever cock happens to be going (professor cock / nerd boy cock etc)

[–]Areimanes21 points22 points  (13 children) | Copy

You can't take a woman seriously in any position when they have quotas and 'positive' discrimination in place (not even mentioning the feminine wiles every girl can pull out on a whim on unsuspecting betas).

If I was a woman, I'd be a staunchly opposed to feminism or any woman who attempts to equal the playing field by mandating that companies hire women (see Germany, 30% of the board has to be female in 2016) for the simple reason that you will always be seen as a token women.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

see Germany, 30% of the board has to be female in 2016

Good bye meritocracy and laissez-faire.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's not the end of the road for them. They've dusted off the old gender paygap myth. News articles adressing this topic are magically popping up in mainstream magazines like Der Spiegel at the moment. They all use the same flawed studies which let aside the fact that women work less time than men, only mentioning it as an assumption which nobody can be sure about, in a tiny subordinate clause.

They demand that every company must publicly list all wages they pay to their employees, so that it is made sure that females earn the same as men.

They even invent new expertises, like that of Karin Tondorf, Dr. in - yes you guessed right - social sciences and self-proclaimed expert for "Entgeltgleichheit" - literally "compensation equality".

She demands that criteria should be introduced which make it possible to actually compare every job to its other and determin the "right" compensation for it. In an interview she mentioned the job of a geriatric nurse to that of a driver for dirty laundry. While the latter recieves a "Ekelzuschlag" ("disgust compensation") like it was negotiated by their union, the former doesn't. Needless to say that the former was mentioned to be female while the latter was described as being male.

Also keep in mind that this femitard is actually getting paid with taxpayer's money to waste the day away with fabricating this kind of bullshit.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

I say when women start dying on job sites at the same rate as men, then they can start yammering about a "wage gap". When women start dying of black lung and asbestos poisoning at the same rate as men, then they can start yammering about a "wage gap". When women stop taking 3 months of maternity leave after popping out a womb turd, and leaving her co-workers to pick up her workload, then they can start yammering about a "wage gap".

Until then thy can STFU.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

When women stop taking 3 months of maternity leave after popping out a womb turd, and leaving her co-workers to pick up her workload, then they can start yammering about a "wage gap".

Here in Germany you get to take "parental time" after birth, which means you are getting paid ~60% of your wage by the state for up to 12 months. Fathers can do this as well as mothers. If they decide to split the time you can even recieve money up to 14 months. Your employer has to give you back your old job afterwards. I have a friend who did this two times because his wife makes more than him.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

That's why I love Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, black guy. HATES affirmative action. He actually busted his ass to get where he was, but everyone thinks he got where he is because he's black. There's someone who actually earned their position without discrimination.

[–]1cover2010 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'll continue to apply the statistically correct assumption that (other things being equal) affirmative action recipients are less talented and skilled than those who did not receive that advantageous treatment. I am fully entitled to think this.

If they want me to stop thinking this, all they have to do is repeal the affirmative action laws, then I'll gradually stop thinking it as results of more fair selection processes appear for my review.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's simply true. If you got in a position because of a quota, you are not as qualified. Thinking otherwise would be insanity.

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[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

That is the juicy irony in it all, isn't it? Every program they lobby for, every "exception" they demand, every welfare system they demand, more and more help from daddy is all a tacit admission that they are less than men.

It's the same reason I get blank stares from people when I tell them that Affirmative Action is racist. It's only once I point out that AA is basically a statement from the government that blacks are inferior, cannot compete on their own merits, and need strongarm coercion from government to get ahead in life.

[–]1cover204 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don't care. Those are real advantages, real money, real careers they get and you don't because of that status.

As a consumer I back that advantage out of my decision making as much as I can, preferring providers who did not receive affirmative action.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think that's one of the primary differences in men and women. Men go to college/university for the purpose of learning a skill, trade, or a profession. Women go to college/university just for the sake of going to college/university. Men get a degree as a means to an end; women get a degree because the degree is the end, it is the "goal".

This is the real reason that men are overwhelmingly the ones with STEM degrees. There is not some "Misogyny Boogeyman" who's mysteriously raping and killing women who try to do STEM. It is simply that STEM/"hard" degrees don't appeal to women, because hard work and intense critical thinking do not appeal to women. It really is that simple.

Additionally, when it comes to the hotter girls, I don't think they even feel the pressing need to get a hard degree. Just get a nice, easy generic liberal arts degree so mommy can be proud on graduation day.

After all, why try to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer when you can simply marry one after you're done riding a hundred cocks finding yourself?

[–]1cover209 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's not just that it doesn't appeal to them. Most people who can do STEM, do it. The reason is that most girls can't do it.

They seem at least as smart as boys up to early HS. By the end the boys are pulling ahead, especially in math related stuff. Girls can do biology but rarely physics. It's normal and biological. Girls' brains don't contine to develop, testosterone helps in the development of spatial reasoning ability, etc.

This was obvious in my advanced math classes in HS where the % of girls went down every year. By college they were basically absent.

[–]1003rp6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or maybe since there are more genius men and more stupid men, and the fact that woman tend to be more average in intelligence, the stupid men are unable to get into college and that leaves only the smarter men. Since women tend to be more average in intelligence, more woman get into college than men; but not as many are at the higher range of intelligence needed for the STEM degrees. The who are able to get into college tend to be smarter than the women who get into college because men's intelligence had a wider standard deviation. I believe that since many less intelligent men didn't get into college in the first place and plenty of other smart men just didn't go because they had other opportunities, the men left who do to college tend to be very intelligent and driven towards the harder degrees with promising jobs after.

[–]1cover202 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's true according to the statistics, and it doesn't contradict what I wrote, if only the top 50% or top 20% of the bell curve (of all people) can do STEM.

But even for a guy and girl with the same full-scale IQ, the guy is more likely to have better mechanical aptitude (tested on the ASVAB but not the SAT, so it doesn't help the guy get into college) and also math aptitude, and the girl is likely to have better verbal aptitude (tested on the SAT.)

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

No matter how good looking a woman is, a bad personality will almost always make her ugly.

[–]byronshadow16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Batten down the hatches. Her next move might be to tell her friends "He kicked me out of his study group because I started seeing a guy. He's such a creeper."

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

agreed. let the facts of this case become common knowledge as they are.

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

Good stuff.

It's good to see beginner-level experiences along with the expert guys who are spinning multiple plates and can easily get same-night lays. It shows other people who are just starting where they should be focusing, and helps them see a path between them and expertise.

Re-flaired to "Field Report".

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

GOOD GUY CRAZYHORSEINVINCIBLE: in a subreddit full of self-important, wannabe alphas, he's encouraging instead of a garden variety dick.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

There are adult ways of saying things besides memes, man.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shaming in trp? This is new.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed; this is echoes of my one-time Blue Pill self. My college age crush expected more and more, till it got to the point where I'd drive 60 miles roundtrip to pick up her car for repairs, leave a GOOD ENOUGH car for her to drive in the meantime, then drive it back out to her when finished. I finally snapped and broke orbit and all contact. No looking back, and I've had a great 30 years of sex life since; she became fat and hermit-like and still asks mutual friends about me.

If I had read tales like this back then, it would have saved me years- a common sentiment on TRP. Thanks for posting and good luck!

[–]putsch8028 points29 points  (8 children) | Copy

Ironically, now that you've demonstrated to her that you know your own value, she may actually become interested in you. The fact that she spent the evening complaining about you shows she's already on the path to doing that.

Of course, the bitter irony that will come with it is, as soon as you show any attention to her or proceed to slip back into betatude, she will immediately start treating you like she used to.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan22 points23 points  (7 children) | Copy

Doesn't happen very often. Usually, once a woman has slapped the "beta" tag on you, it's pretty much permanent. Even if she does begin to show interest upon ditching her, that interest is only "interest" insofar as getting you back into your nice, neat little space in her orbit, where she likes you.

Yes, she may even use sex to make this happen, and that's where a lot of men get fooled. It will be just enough missionary "cum in a condom" sex, not the hard, passionate "cum on my tits and face" sex.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think he could make her his whore if he had the taste for it. She already sexed him. If he makes it clear homework for sex he could keep upping the ante until she is licking his asshole and letting him piss on her for a math quiz. Just saying.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, the pissing on her should be reserved for chemistry quizzes.

"Now identify the pH level of my piss, whore!"

[–]Rawrination1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wish I could give you gold for this comment.

[–]GC0W301 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If he does this, he totally needs to do it the night when the cafeteria served asparagus!

[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Now identify the pH level of my piss, whore!"

You need to start making funny porn.

[–]1cover204 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The latter depends on how much of a sex god you are. As a newly alpha you may not be that far up the experience curve, but getting in the panties at all is significant and could be the start of a new adventure. Women bond through sex.

The reason it may appear that a beta can't get out of the friendzone is that betas rarely change. I've had a girl react differently to me after I changed a bit, and could see it in her body language while we talked, and then she said "you've changed ..." and I could have tried more at that point if I had wanted.

A tingle is a tingle. It's involuntary to her, it's caused by you. Don't have too much respect for a woman's emotions and feelings. In a different context (LTR especially) we know they can change several times a day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with the other replies. I'll go a step further to say that women really do want to see beta men alpha up. But make no mistake, she'll shit test you far more severely. If she's already slated you as a beta, she will fight hard to maintain her version of reality. But IF you succeed, she will be putty in your hands.

This is advanced shit tho, not for beginners. You have to actually BE powerful (generically speaking), not just use mimicked behaviors as temporary means to appear so... unless pump and dump. Awwriight.

[–]zxsteven12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reminds me of when I was in college. Met a snowboard model, for some reason taking intro to programming, same shit, called me every time for homework. After the second time, it hit me, fuck this girl. So next time she called, I told her to fuck off. Next time in class, she's in my regular seat waiting. God it was annoying.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Briffault's Law states that a woman will use you until you stop providing anything of benefit (i.e. time, money, transport, etc).

Next time you're interested in sleeping with a girl, make your intentions clear off the bat. If she doesn't want to know, then move on.

Anyway, most of us have been there. Just stay vigilant!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

I'm confused. Did you actually bang her or did she just keep telling you she'd bang you eventually but never did?

[–]meuglerbull5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

There must be a generational difference here because I have no idea what he means by "hookup" as a verb.

They're already spending time together when he says that, and it makes this FR a lot different if there was that much sex.

[–]pbjandahighfive5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

To me, as a 27 year old male, when I say I hooked up with someone it means I fucked them.

[–]GIFtoGasm2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah this is actually relatively important to what happened. I bet he made out with her once.

OP clarify.

[–]tristan412 12 points12 points [recovered] | Copy

I fucked her on occasion, an important detail was that I thought I was the only one, she made her self seem more innocent than she was.

[–]JihadDerp9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Allllllll women are like that. The innocence card. Ugh. I can't... There's no such thing as an innocent woman. If there is, she just hasn't met the right alpha yet. The panties drop and the legs spread so quick you'd think gravity was working overtime.

[–]ISTpREDator6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well...what's the problem if she put out? We're you just pissed she wasn't monogamous? Cause you probably should have just kept fucking her and using her to your advantage finding another plate. I was confused about what your problem was when you said you hooked up occasionally. It seemed like a mutually beneficial transaction.

[–]real-boethius8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It sounds like his illusion of innocence was shattered and this is what has upset him.

From a TRP perspective, she was bringing something to the table. He was bringing something to the table. What's the problem? It looks like the problem is he thought it was not a business transaction and she was helping him to think that.

She was whoring herself out though giving as little as possible) but pretending it was something else.

If not too late, and I was OP, I would be subtly inviting her to consider whether this is getting too one-sided ie lots of homework for not much sex, and she needs to thing about how she can put things in balance again.

Another minor factor to consider: It is actually really good for your own learning to explain things to other people and help them with their problems (see eg book "A Mind for Numbers" for more on this). So I suspect OP was in fact benefiting to some degree from the time spent together. Though he might have been better off in a study group of peers.

[–]Kolbykilla8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

OP, why didn't you just strike up a deal where you use her for sex and she uses you for school?

[–]usul162813 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Pssh, not a fair trade. A fair trade would be: she gets to have sex with me and in return she can practice cooking and cleaning in my house.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

I had the exact same situation.

She was not even ashamed about it, "You know, most people would think I was just taking advantage of you. But I'm not, lol :)". Subtle. We used to sit together every class and she would ask me to explain. Every assignment and test we would work and study together. By work, I mean I would give her answers. By study, I mean I would teach her the course. When she broke up with her boyfriend, the blue pill beta inside of me jumped for joy. I thought I had a chance. The next time we "worked" together, she started telling me all about the Alphas hitting on her, and showed me her Tinder, complaining about why Chad Thundercock wouldn't message her back.

My Red Pill senses came to me. I have completely cut her out. I now sit as far from her as possible. When she texts, I look at it and put my phone away. Whenever I see her she says "Hi MaslowsHammer", I smile and only respond "Hi."

Good job OP, she was a leech, just like mine. Never give a leech help, it will only hurt you.

[–]1cover205 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

My rule: Never Help Girls .

I think you should become more comfortable talking again to the leech. Sit close to her. Don't return her texts because the only appropriate replies could be evidence of sexual harassment. But talk to her, don't retreat from her. And when she tries to "work" or "study" with you, decline / go away / outright refuse / laugh at her. That will hurt her, which is what you'll enjoy.

Your next step is becoming comfortable talking to such bitches. Soon you'll be dropping their panties.

[–]4delicioustreats0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I take the MMSLP shrek analogy-- there are donkeys and there are princesses-- never help girls you're not fucking.

Never allow them to use you, unless you're benefitting mutually.

[–]mEatBucket0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My personal rule is that "you should never do something for a girl which you wouldn't do for your best friend". Minor things, sure whatever. Bigger things you tell them to fuck off but end up doing anyway because deep down you actually want to help with no uterior motives. I wouldn't drop my life for my buddy and neither for a girl but some minutes? Fuck it lets do it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

your expression needs to be fixed it doesnt make sense.

[–]mEatBucket1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wrote it drunk, my apologies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd agree that becoming comfortable with such bitches is very important. An excellent tool in your Red Pill toolkit is knowing how to turn would-be leeches into plates, i.e. avoiding Beta habits and using Alpha habits.

However, I will not become friendly with her again. Recovery from the Bluepill is the same as that from any maladaptive addiction. When you want to stop taking heroine, you don't keep shooting it. You cut it out of your life. Realize what habits make you weak, and stop those habits.

A woman using you is no different.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You were waaaay too nice to this cunt. Ass, grass, or cash dude.

Also if someone tries this shit with you - give them the weong answers and fuck them over.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't sweat this one man. You learned a valuable lesson. What's more, she is definitely the type to think that she will be able to manipulate her way off the CC and penetrate an Alpha heart when she deems fit. Jokes on her when she hits the wall hard as fuck and has to settle for an ultra beta at 32.

[–]maxmangel7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a lot to learn from this. You don't ever want to be the guy so easily fooled again. Sometimes the steaks will be bigger.

[–]chadchadington4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good on you brother.

I've become more selfish lately. When a woman talks to me it's usually because she wants something. When I engage with a women my thought process is:

1) Can she increase my value? 2) Will she give me sex? 3) Will she put me in a position to get sex from her friend? 4) Will she put me in a position to gain more business connections or increase my social circle? If it doesn't benefit me I don't act like a dick but rather passive dismissive. Always smile gentleman...even when you're walking away.

[–]jcrpta9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

TDLR: girl strung me around for almost a full school year and used me for school work, wouldn't take her shit anymore.

Women's brains are wired totally different from men's. She didn't see a problem with her behaviour - if she could get away with it (which more often than not she can because betas like you let her) it was OK.

Count yourself lucky you learned this at a relatively young age.

[–]JihadDerp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, honestly, I went through three years of this. I missed out on a lot of collegiate sex due to my "relationship." Thank the gods you're learning your lesson now. 30+ year olds don't even compare.

[–]Linrraba2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being there,done that. Congratz,bro. If I were to suggest you something it would be talk to her as little as possible to avoiding sounding butthurted. It will make harder for her to manipulate you.

[–]1Jaereth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You now realize the true nature of this manipulative bitch.

Yes it sucks it happened like that but get used to it. This is how 95% of women operate. Never let your guard down.

You seem to have a bit of the oneitis too. Best thing for you to do to put this whole thing behind you? Start fucking multiple other girls. That should be your goal. No more contact with this one.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

College is about learning, wait until you enter the workplace and find how women try to get you to do their work.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

so you never hooked up with her?

[–]Steve_Wiener3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

you probably could have just straight up traded schoolwork for sex with this one

[–]neopet2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good job man! Make sure you completely cut her out of your life to avoid any sort of relapse in a time of weakness.

It's also important to remember that how you treated her enabled this sort of behavior, and this situation can repeat itself over and over with the other pretty girls you meet throughout your life.

Work on yourself, question the value of every girl in your life and know your worth. The great thing you learned here is how to tell a pretty girl "no" and mean it.

[–]PIGamer862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Remember that moment and always hold form.

[–]StrikePrice2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

She had the balls to approach me at a party and talk to me last weekend, I was really drunk and don't remember

Never lose control, my friend. Never lose control.

[–]1cover201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah I don't really agree.

He didn't lose control in a bad way, but in a redpill way. Having this stuff come out of your mouth naturally (i.e. not "controlled") means your redpill self is emerging.

[–]mEatBucket0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Losing control is so much fun though!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guarantee if she put a third of the effort into her schoolwork that she puts into being a trashy slut she would be a top student.

[–]prokra5ti2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd tell her I'd help her with her homework, but I'd need a blowjob first... you know... to help concentrate on the work.

Then, after getting a blowjob, tell her to fuck off and stop using you.

[–]RPNLBSS2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congratulations on breaking free from a manipulative female. Btw, some good advice I read last week. Make an alternative reddit account just for TRP.

[–]evergonitenitenigga5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

just putting this out there. judging by what you have told guys never hooked up. stop lying to yourself. you were a classic orbiter. nothing more nothing less. you guys might have kissed, but one thing's for sure, your penis was never in or around that bitch's mouth.

if you were banging the shit outta her, you wouldn't sound bitter here on a goddamn redpill sub. just sayin'. i embrace all the downvotes, since for the longest time, this sub has been infested by people from r/relationships and r/askwomen.

[–]SkaTSee1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you could always proposition help for sex. Just plainly say you'll help her out for a quick fuck. Betcha $20 she'd be down. That is if you even want to sleep with her. Just don't get fucking sappy over her

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She used you, yet instead of her discarding you like a used tampon, you dropped her. A bump to her ego, but I'm sure she'll find another guy to put her tuition fees to good use, while she parties away into debt.

Welcome aboard, OP.

Anecdotes like this really goes to show just how little women think of weak, passive guys. Women want a guy with this shit intact - a man with balls.

[–]xtralargerooster1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hah... now you better hope she finds someone else to cheat on. If she determines that she is going to fail out, she might just announce to the dean that you had been academically dishonest for her the whole time and they don't give refunds for tuition even when you aren't going to finish school, homey.

[–]1cover200 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

She can accuse him. he can deny. Studying together, providing some answers on homework, tutoring the course is not going to get him in trouble.

If he had written a paper for her and she could prove it, that woudl be more dangerous. If he had taken a test for her, very dangerous. But it doesn't sound like that happened.

Don't be afraid to play mind-games on girls. Guys can win these games, but in the words of a state lottery advertisement, "you can't win, if you don't play".

[–]4delicioustreats0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"He raped me in his dorm room when he said he'd help me study"


[–]1cover200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You say no it's a lie.

A girl won't even be believed by other girls if there's no evidence. They are not especially inclined to believe or have sympathy. Read a bit of /r/relationships if you doubt this -- it seems a guy has to step in to convince other girls, which is why a white knight can be dangerous. But if it didn't happen, just say so.

And knowing this works, a girl won't usually try shit against a guy with self confidence to say what he wants to say. They don't see a soft target, they respect. And yes they often get tingles.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey at least she gave you some sex. It saves you from being a total sap. You could have changed the situation and started using her if you had wanted though. Oh well, who would want herpes.

[–]1DRMMR761 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're a lucky bastard. I've been through the same shit, except nothing physical beyond making out once or twice for a few minutes. At least you got laid. She prostituted herself to you and you both got what you wanted while you still wanted it. The deal ended when you moved on. You still got something in return for all the help though, which is much more than what most Beta oribiters get.

[–]thedude1224871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have an opposite story. When I was a freshman in high school, I had a Study Hall in the cafeteria. They only had 2 people at each table, and they sat at opposite ends from each other. This cute hippy girl (easily 7/10) who sat at my table would always ask me to help her study French. I was way too much of a beta to realize she didn't give a fuck about studying for French but that she was interested in me. I didn't make any move or show any interest in her because I thought there was no way that a girl as hot as her could possibly be in to me. I know now because I've scored women that are hotter than her.

Looking back on it, I realize how many signs I missed. Example - she'd sit next to me at the table instead of across from me, she asked really dumb questions that the answers were really obvious, etc. It would be nice to go back to high school knowing what I know now.

[–]ivebeencaught1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope you got the true lesson from your story.

No it isn't AWALT, you were being used, you avoided that whore and whatever STI she probably is or will be carrying or even welcome to TRP.

The real lesson here is: Listen to the people that have nothing to gain from telling you the truth and possibly everything to lose by pissing on your perfect snowflake.

Congrats on getting this albatross off your back.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

wait wat the fuck. You would help her with her studies and then she would have sex with you. There is nothing wrong with this deal, both parties are exchanging something.

By the sounds of it you wanted a LTR with this chick and she was not responding to it... First of all - why the fuck would you want to be in a LTR with a chick who a) is still in college as you are yourself b) who sounds slutty as fuck

Sounds like you were being extremely clingy buddy. One of the big giveaways in this thread was when you said " SHE TOLD EVERYONE NOT TO SAY ANYTHING" she obviously knew you would judge her as you expect this girl to be some unicorn that comes from the mystical land of narnia and only sleeps with you and delivers to your every whim instead of the college slut which apparently everyone on your campus is quite aware off, except for you??

This chick was alot more redpill then you, learn from her imo

[–]skoobled0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She has to fuck him first. Otherwise watch her weasel her way out of the deal

[–]RichieFinn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the prodigal son has returned. Welcome back to reality, and hope you learned some lessons.

[–]Goldfulgore1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let this be a lesson to you OP. There are many girls like her, don't be fooled that she was a special case.

[–]Hell_Brake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


Make sure this doesn't happen again. As you get older, that 'school work' could be:

  • a mortgage

  • a loan (car, student)

  • rent

  • credit card debt

  • another man's children

My only advice to you though is follow the old adage; where there's smoke there's fire. Not only was there smoke, but, there were people telling you there is a fire. Pay attention and listen next time.

[–]FuriousMouse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT and if you want to know why keeping orbitters (yes you were her orbitter) is a natural part of every woman, think thousands of years back in time.

Men were warriors, hunters, protectors and providers whereas women raised kids and kept the house. Women were dependent on men for everything.

Young women who were in the age between their families and having a family of their own gained a lot by having men around them that would provide them with food, clothes, shelter, protection and shiny stones without having to do anything in return but smile and flirt. The women could keep these men "on hold" while they looked around for the "right alpha". And if they would get pregnant, the orbitters could easily be turned into providers simply by sleeping with them and claiming the child was his.

This strategy would maximize womans chance that their own child would have "alpha" genes and become an alpha, but also have a good "beta" provider to raise the kid.

[–]TheSmellOfOnions1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't even know you but this makes me happy.

[–]trenbalone3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

At this point you can just ease her back in by making sure that if you help her with anything you get something in return.

[–]funquip2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You actually have a shot at sleeping with her now, than you did before when you were her lousy errand boy.. GOOD FOR YOU!

[–]aesthetics4ever1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I thought at the time to be "good friends" who'd hang out all the time, flirt with each other and casually hookup."

LOL Seriously my dude?

At no point in your story did you mention a time when you made a move or signaled your intent to smash. Did you expect for her to instigate?

Every man goes through this to some extent. Better for this to happen now while your young. Understand that you aren't entitled to sh*t with anyone. Study hard and improve your game.

[–]starraven1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that you took all this time to write such a non-issue is nauseating. Move on.

[–]1raceAround1261 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Back in university, we had to do some coursework in an older programming language. None of us had ever seen it before but the professor thought it relevant should we ever see a completely foreign language that we at least try to make sense of it.

My study group, or rather a mate I used to hang out with for learning stuff, were doing our work. Now he'd had this girl that had locked him into her orbit for a fair while. He was always doing shit for her, buying her coffee and you guessed it, helping with coursework.

Anyways a couple of days before deadline, we were sat checking each other's work as we often did. I brought up things he missed, him me. Anyway, this girl gets a hold of him. She's not even started the work, she's so confused and so very weepy and crying.

Long story short, he ended up giving her his OWN coursework to turn in and rewriting his work but "just different enough" to make it look like it wasn't cheating. I looked at his rewrite and it was a shambles. Errors he made in a painfully obvious way, half of it didn't answer the question posed, etc. I was just as blue pill as him at the time, but even I was saying, "You're going to get complete shit for this work. Just hand in the work you did that you spent three weeks on..."

The male hamster spun wilder and wilder the more I tried to convince him! What irritated me is that he even added some bits from my work. The scores we got were me 96%, her 94%, him 77%. He had nearly totally screwed up his year after that stunt and ended up just barely getting a distinction. Of course she had no problem given he was always around to help.

After that incident I just said, "We aren't going to be studying together anymore if you're going to keep chasing this girl. Firstly, she fucks everybody in sight at the students union - including her former best friend's Dad - she's using the fuck out of you and you will never ever get her in your bed!"

Of course, he chose hoes before bros. The last I heard from that setup was she graduated with a 2.1, him with a 2.2. Would you believe he proposed to her in front of everybody - yes even their respective parents - at the graduation party? You can pretty much guess what her answer was given his degree was about as useful as a cheap piece of toilet paper. There's no way he would have slipped that low if he wasn't constantly rewriting his own work after handing his over. Stupid fuck.

[–]Zchavago0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well you fucked up by imagining all these great ideas of the two of you. Never do that. Because reality is never close to what you may imagine, good or bad.

[–]Fizzyjizzz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

top quality /r/justiceporn material right here. Good on you OP for not staying in denial.

[–]cruyff80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I had a girl do that to me.. When I refused point-blank, the next thing I heard was that she'd filed a sexual harassment complaint against me. People are weird.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Define "hookup"? If it means what I think it means ...

I'd totally trade my text book and homework help for a girl who'll flirt and sleep with me.

[–]GC0W300 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He fucked her.

In the original post, his beef seems to be that he was expecting sex AND commitment from a girl who only wanted to provide the former.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love this. Don't take shit from her

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One crush ended up doing that to me. Obviously I was beta as fuck at the time and didn't realise that probably meant she wasn't attracted to me anymore. When I realised that I was guiding her so much and she'd never even help with anything, I literally stood up and walked away. That worked fairly well actually.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you keep saying you're "hooking up" with this girl. Confusing.

Anyways. You're on the first rung; anger

Ideally you wouldn't have shown her how butt hurt you were, but it's better than nothing.

Remember- no point in getting angry at a girl for being a girl.

[–]Totsean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, you learned, just keep learning and avoid making mistakes.

Good luck.

[–]thinktankman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you're in college keep every interaction with your flings

[–]benyadigg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn man, thats harsh. Good job on showing her what the fuck is up. Stay vigilant bro and never let ANYONE use you.

[–]Espada180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As a student catching feelings for a fellow class mate is recipe for disaster, I especially avoid girls when it comes to school work.

[–]1runnerrun20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're too far gone with this one, don't even try to get in her good graces anymore. Practice being friendly and pleasant with her when you run into her while at the same never helping her again. That will teach you some feeling of power you can have over women, which is about the best you can still gain from this situation.

Whether your motivation is self-improvement or crushing her soul in revenge, let me repeat that this is absolutely the most powerful thing you can do right now: be friendly, even happy to see her and chatty, while at the same time holding firm and not helping her with anything or committing to any engagements with her. If you can manage this, you're well on your way to becoming a new man.

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lol nice man... i love stories like this... glad you stood up for yourself...

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you pal! Now dont take the anger pat as i did/do. This is going to happen all the time as long as you allow it because all women are like that, and thats fine. See the world for what it is and not for what you want ir to be.

[–]ufaild0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Two things

1) if you're drinking to the point you can't remember what happened, you have a serious health problem. It may not seem like that when you're young, but trust me, you will not remain invincible for long.

2) Be careful telling manipulative women to fuck off like that. They have all the power to ruin your life, and they have zero accountability at that age. They can tell the police you raped them just to get back at you. It's much better to just next them.

[–]TekkomanKingz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude it's college he just had one binge drink session. Not everyone is an alcoholic.

And she is a known whore on campus. He'd probably have a few friends coming to his defense from what it sounds like.

[–]mynameiskevin150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is great work you finally got that stress out of your system.

[–]XinGuang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hah, what you did at the end was sweet. What happens now? Has she finally stopped talking to you? Is she plotting revenge?

[–]blackberryx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its one thing to take to red pill but to apply the lessons you've learned is a real step towards self improvement. good job OP learn from this and do not let 1 woman get to you. your still young and in college, opportunities to get laid are always 1 conversation away.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ironically, I got to be in the position of the girl. Long story short, my junior year of college I got booted from facebook. When I eventually got back on i didn't bother re-adding people from my earlier years that I didn't talk to.

My last semester I needed to borrow a textbook for class and I knew a girl there, who happened to live on my floor freshman year. I only realized between classes that I actually needed the book so I sent her a facebook message.

I then got a ranty message back about "how i'm using her" and "why aren't we facebook friends anymore". I was just like, can I have the book.

[–]sorry0fucks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like other commenters mentioned, she is in so much surplus that she doesn't even care about losing you while you're in scarcity so you wrote this whole post about her. Honestly it's great you grew the balls to tell her to fuck off but don't take too much pride in it or let it define you. She has other guys ready to do work for her and other guys ready to fuck her. Escape that paradigm and make yourself the main character of your life instead of a hopeless loser. I speak from experience.

[–]Kite230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You took the Red pill brother! How does telling that ungrateful bitch to go fuck off with her pussy pass feel?!

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She then ignores me after I gave her the text book and doesn't corporate to give it back to me until AN HOUR BEFORE THE SALE DEADLINE,

You should've cut it off right there. If that were me, she would've gotten a, "What the fuck is wrong with you? Go eat a dick."

[–]Paranoidexboyfriend0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anytime a woman goes out of her way to say how passionately she hates some guy, its only a matter of time before she's sucking his dick. Intense hate and intense lust are just opposite sides of the same coin.

Its the truest when the reasons they describe for hating him are "he's so cocky, such a player, what an asshole, so rude, etc"

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ok, now you know how to be around girls. They're all like that, and if you treat them along the same lines as telling her off, you will get your dick wet. Make them prove themselves to you.

[–]mrheh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You were (are) her bitch dude. Cut her off and if you she tries to talk to you don't. Bang her cousin.

[–]WakingUpAlice 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

At least she didn't fuck you, and pretend to string you along as an emotional tampon for 2 years. Shit sucks, but it could have been way worse. Proud of you brother, never settle for less than what you deserve. The power is in your ability to fuck more than one women, date more than one women and be picky as you want.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


at least he didn't get his dick wet?

Are you some kind of eternal optimist, glass is half-full but pussy is dried up for him?

I mean srsly.

[–]brianjamesxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It sounds like you have a lot of reading to do and the sidebar material is waiting for you. This sounds like your anger phase and the one experience that made you say enough is enough. I wish you the best of luck on this road to recovery. You have a lot of work to do.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I ruined your streak and upvoted you above 666 - where it was when I opened it.

I am glad I didn't run into too many girls like this but I was in comp-sci so not many women to start. Thankfully they all seemed smart enough not to need to ask like this.

[–]YoungRedOne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Brav-fucking-o. I think most of us have been here and I'm proud for you. One step in the right direction, good stuff old chap. I wanted to hear something a lot meaner but you did great.

[–]1cover200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well done OP. Rather than having a big breakup with her when you felt most emotional, you waited (whether intentionally or not) when she was expecting you to give her 15% of the grade. When you turned her down she did not have time to find a backup or learn to do it herself.

This is all right and fair. It should hurt her. Well done!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

gratz on not being such a bitch. I have never helped a girl with homework and when they invite me over to help them we just end up watching netflix instead.

[–]Mihawk010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is why you dont talk with bitches, you just fuck them.

To make this simpler, always fucking touch them and escalate. If whenever she comes to talk to you, you start groping her, etc, leering, making jokes of her fat ass that you wouldn't mind hitting, well she will either ignore you, or she will like it and come for the D.

So basically, always escalate with bitches.

[–]sterlinghtsmi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good on the grammar though.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

An alpha male doesn't get drunk, work on it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This isn't true. There are alpha males that have any number of vices. Being alpha doesn't mean you're virtuous or have rules like 'I don't drink'. It's more of a mindset where you do whatever you want and own the consequences. There are a fuck ton of alphas that get drunk, beat their wives, do meth, etc. Hell, there are alpha males who murder, and prison rape other men. I'm not saying any of those things are good traits to follow, but unless the person is weak and can't control themselves then it doesn't detract anything from their alpha state.

Edit: I see the context of your comment, and get what you were saying, but really, getting drunk wasn't the part where he failed, it was losing his shit, and later blaming it on the alcohol.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like this comment. Helpful. Thanks.

[–]Entershikari0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Respect yourself dude ! Don't let any bitch waste your time, it's your most precious ressource as a living being. Spare it for yourself and the one who deserve it.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best story I've read in a while. Reminds of a week ago flying back home and some post wall formerly hot blonde was late for her flight and wanted to check in. Just said "can't do that, sorry." Wish I hadn't said sorry though.

[–]drqxx-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fuck her then leave her again.

It feels better the second time.

[–]fg2intw2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That would work except for one thing.

The fact that she won't fuck him. Or at least, if I'm interpreting the story right.

[–]drqxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Then fuck her best friend or sister.

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[–]MOldMuckyTerrahawk[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This whole story belongs at /r/thatHappened

If you can't prove the story is fake, shut the fuck up, downvote, and move on.

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[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The Red Pill does not promote or condone criminal activity, and neither will you if you expect to continue posting here.

Sit in time out and think about what it means to contribute constructively to this sub.

[–]UlyssesElias-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

No come on. A casual snub and being a bit of a freeloader doesn't deserve criminal sabotage!! Please don't lose perspective!

[–]UlyssesElias-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The two of you were never more than acquaintances. Don't give her any more than you'd give any other acquaintance.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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