The Power of Abundance

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January 13, 2020

“So, is this what you do? You bring girls over from Tinder, put on some Netflix, and have sex with them?”

I look down at the stunning, petite, South American woman I brought over for the night. Her eyes are half open, her body still shuddering; we’re both coming down from our sex high while Joe Goldberg is doing his weird ass inner dialogue about Guinevere Beck.

I take a moment to reflect on my situation, my victory. The woman curled up next to me was a challenge. The shit tests were endless, the LMR I had to push through tonight would have frustrated the hell out of the old me, but listening to her deep sighs and feeling her trace her fingers on my chest made me feel proud.

“Um, hello?”

A light tap on my chest brought me back to the present.

“Hm? What’s up?”

“Answer my question.”

We lock eyes and I see that she’s not backing down; she really wants to know.

“Guilty as charged.” I say with a smirk.

“” She says then lays her head on my chest.

A few minutes pass before I’m hit with the question.

“So, when was the last time a girl was over here?”

Ice shoots through my veins and my mind starts to reel. My old, BP way of thinking starts to come back. What if I answer incorrectly? Will I lose this one? We only had sex once, I want more! We should lie! I take a deep breath and try to keep cool.

“Interesting question. The real question is why is Joe acting out over this one chick”? I say.

“Yeah, he’s weird. Now, answer my question.” She says, now propped up on her elbow and looking at me with a raised eyebrow.

“Wednesday. I-, yeah, Wednesday.” I say. I was almost about to explain that even though another prospect came over that night, nothing happened. But she didn’t need to know that.

“Wow, we move quick, don’t we”? she scoffs. At this point, she sits up completely up and checks her phone.

More minutes pass, but it’s awkward now. Do I explain that nothing happened? Do I ask her what’s wrong? No, I’m just going to sit here and watch a show about a stalker. She let’s out a huge sigh, abruptly gets up and heads to the bathroom.

At this point, my inner BP voice is loud and annoying. You fucking idiot, you ruined it. Why couldn’t you lie? Now we’ll never fuck this chick again. Go and explain yourself! Tel her we’ll stop talking to other people. Do something, anything! No, I’m going to sit here and watch a show about a stalker...but I’ll check my phone too.

The first message of interest I see is from the chick from Wednesday asking when we can meet again. The next message is from a prospect saying she hasn’t heard from me in a while and wants to catch up. My matches and messages have decent numbers on my datings apps. After closing my phone, it clicks. I have options. I. Have. Options. If this doesn’t work out, I have at least two options. If those don’t work out, grab more from the apps. Holy shit, I have options.

At the time of this revelation, she comes out of the bathroom. We make eye contact and she rolls her eyes.

“Well, it’s getting late. I’m thinking of heading out.” she says with a bite in her tone.


She stops in her tracks and looks at me funny before putting on her clothes and packing her things. In that moment, we both felt the power dynamic change. She could no longer hold the power of pussy over me and she knew it. I had options, I had power.

I walk her to her car, give her a kiss, and tell her to text me when she gets home safely. A text was sent later that night and I replied with a thumbs up.

This happened Saturday and I’ve not heard from her since. Does it sting? A little. Do I want to reach out and see if what I said made her mad/hurt? Of course. However, it’s finally clicked that no matter the outcome, I’ll make it. Why? Because I have options.

Thanks for reading 🙏🏾

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Title The Power of Abundance
Author mrbasic-
Upvotes 709
Comments 85
Date 13 January 2020 06:03 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime409 points410 points  (14 children) | Copy

Women can generally deal with being covertly slutty, but the moment you make it overt self preservation mode kicks in. This is why deflecting is so effective, she knows it, you know it, but nobodies confirmed it, so she always has the backing of plausible deniability.

In your case you made it known that you were fucking other girls, with the same method, which meant that for her to keep coming back would make her overtly just another no self-respect slut. Her plausible deniability was gone.

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[–]mrbasic-[S] 80 points81 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ah, I should I have used this as a response. Hindsight is always 20/20!

[–]warburgio6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

or 'im saving myself for jesus/this special after-marriage night/ure my first/im a virgin' or some other obv bullshit would prob work.

[–]PizzaAndProtein10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a virgin just works so well for me. It's especially good as a response when you're with the same girl multiple times or in an LTR. It normally turns a bit playful with her saying her too or whatever

[–]8380atgmaildotcom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck that you were right. If you really do have true abundance. If you are feigning abundance on the other hand, then you were in the wrong.

[–]herpaderpadont100 points101 points  (1 child) | Copy

That would have been my response when put under pressure..

"I am not one to kiss and tell...." and don't give in. We aren't official...we aren't it's none of your business.

This leaves mystery and also assures you aren't going to start talking to other people about her promiscuous ways.

[–]mrbasic-[S] 48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for your reply.

As other comments have pointed out, there were better ways to respond to her, but I was rattled as fuck, not gonna lie.

[–]stirringlion19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Still, thanks for sharing! We never stop learning...And hopefully shagging.

[–]unamedasha23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

I had a fwb that I was fond of. I didn't want to hurt her so I adopted a "always tell the truth" mindset. She asked if I had met other girls, and I told her I went on a date with one. She asked if we had sex, and I said yes. Covertly, she knew we were not exclusive, but as soon as I made it overt, I upset her. She broke things off shortly after. My new policy is to not lie but to also not naively tell the whole truth all the time.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime43 points44 points  (1 child) | Copy

A guy I knew was cheating on his GF for years, everyone knew it. She would routinely be shown evidence of his cheating, but would turn a blind eye. Why? Because every time she confronted him he would deny it.

It's not that she really believed him, it's just that it was the story that best fit her narrative. Women do not care for or value truth, they value their feelings above all. This is why they will always subscribe to the narrative that provides the most comforting feeling.

If you're a man that desires results with women then offering truth and honesty is synonymous with offering a chimpanzee 100 dollar bills instead of bananas. It will have no effect, because she doesn't value it like the chimp doesn't value money.

To engage effectively you have to engage with her using a currency she deals in. With woman that currency is always emotions/feelings.

[–]lepies_pegao1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bravo! I really like that analogy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear22213 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Look.. when im with you.. im with you. that’s all you need to know. now cmon im hungry, we’re getting food”

[–]TheGreatConst9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

And the worst thing is if she is just a little bit crazy then this will evolve into "after-sex-regret" and it could lead to rape charges. Which, most likely, would be proven false, but it will give you a headache and could affect your social life as well. Moreover, when she asked him "answer me" - it was a frame of command. Why you should obey her and answer her honestly and seriously? It isn't about keeping the girl at all costs, it is about holding frame to the end.

[–]jh1871283 points284 points  (8 children) | Copy

Should have told her you were a virgin before and laughed. Don’t answer her questions straight up, don’t play her game, don’t enter her frame.

[–]Bluedog5x527 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sweet Thanks for the free red pill bro

[–]An_absolute_unit14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fr this is a golden lil tidbit for that situation

[–]nexellasdf39 points40 points  (5 children) | Copy

What do you do when they press you for answers though? I have tried this in the past and it often works but they also often push the question and demand an answer. I've declined to answer before but that seems to come off as dishonest.

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[–]stirringlion21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yep, and preferably open questions, not yes/no questions work better in this situation.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls use questions to dictate the frame of the narrative. The one answering them is in a subordinate position. The only way out is pressure flip or deflect or illogical answers.

[–]strikethrough12324 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Demand an answer? What’s she gonna do if you don’t give her one? Leave? Bye bitch.

Seriously though, if I can’t come up with a clever response I just say “Nope can’t tell you that” with a little smirk.

[–]MarkJohnPaul117 points118 points  (12 children) | Copy

Not discounting your abundance...but I think this all could have just been avoided if you just put the ball back in her court

As soon as you answered this dumb question you started playing her dumb game...

It’s also just such typical woman shit...she’s just asking some unanswerable question to marginalize you into being an “asshole” so she can say and rationalize to herself that she rejected you instead of running the risk of getting rejected herself BY you.

women aren’t tuned into rejection, so instead of risking being rejected themselves they say shit so passive aggressively that they can make you look bad.

it’s the banana in the tailpipe routine and doesn’t even deserve to be answered the first time.

Like even by your internal reaction that you hid (good job btw) it SHOWS that she’s putting you on the spot to LOOK LIKE the asshole and end up being the reason shit went sour, WHEN IN REALITY, this chick is just insecure and thinks pussy is some super valuable asset in a chick.

You prove it yourself when you feel the power dynamic shift and she understands her pussy don’t mean shit.

Then she leaves, my guess is because you played her game and answered the questions but didn’t educate her that pussy is literally inconsequential. It’s the bare minimum she has to have and give to be valuable to a guy.

So she can put the blame on you and now she’ll have even more shit tests and LMR the next time.

All that said, my point here is you gotta educate and give some of your more “hard to get” plates some guidance after you get them if you want to keep them around.

She left out of being a typical girl who thought her pussy was more important than it really is to you.

[–]Aeronautix28 points29 points  (9 children) | Copy

how do you avoid answering if she doesnt stop pushing for an answer?

[–]Nyrxmajor92 points93 points  (2 children) | Copy

Turn your answer into a joke. Say you’re a virgin this never happens or say you’re the third one today something so obviously false that she can just laugh it off. Then say something like the real question is when are we going for round two? Don’t break frame is the key. If she’s in your bed just don’t fuck it up don’t overthink her pointless questions.

[–]Aeronautix13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

thanks, good answer.

i wouldnt say its pointless though, the question is meaningful, but it for sure puts the ball in her court if you answer it for real

[–]Nyrxmajor14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah it’s more of a shit test to see how you can maintain your composure. I meant it’s pointless to answer them in a real way and would likely just backfire on you. So common to hear I bet you say that to all the girls don’t you? Or I bet you have girls over all the time. They just want to feel special even if they know deep down they’re one of many for you.

[–]MarkJohnPaul65 points66 points  (3 children) | Copy

So since she’s pushing for an answer to a question that isn’t even asking what she really means - You flip it and ask her a question that makes her explain herself or pressures her to confirm she means what she said.

It literally might take a few times of asking the same thing to logic your way through this bullshit emotional question because it’s likely she never asked questions like these in a way which actually asked what she meant.

Why? We have an example in this post - guys actually answer these questions. So be non judgemental in tone, and just guide her through

I generated a simplified example of what I would have said and how she likely would have replied based on the many situations I’ve experienced dealing with this typical kind of passive aggressive behavior.

“So is this what you do? You bring girls over from Tinder, put on Netflix, and have sex with them?”

“Is that what you think I just did?”

“Idk, I’m just asking”

“You don’t know what you think?”

“No I do - Ok fine. Yea, I think you bring girls over from tinder put on Netflix and have sex with them”


“ do you?”

“Is that what happened here?”



Done. Conversation over. Most chicks won’t go any further because they truly can’t come to marginalize themselves as the girl “he brought over from Tinder, put on Netflix, and fucked.” Not only that but also because it’s not even true. It’s a marginalization. You had to have a fucking well developed swagger and sense of game. You had to be charming, smart, funny, strong, overcome shit tests, and an assortment of other criteria when in comparison all this chick had to do was have qualities she was born with and all she did was make you wait to fuck her.

Anyway...Basically what I’m saying is sometimes chicks ask you questions that don’t really ask what they mean...they ask you questions they actually don’t want to even know answers too...or even sometimes ask you questions that frankly are none of their business.

When this happens don’t be afraid to ask a girl what the fuck she’s trying to say if you think she’s putting you in a position that will ultimately make you look like an asshole. when in reality she’s being the asshole by trying to make you look like one.

[–]Aeronautix14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

haha. sounds like a conversation with a therapist

i like it though, thanks for the reply

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy shit that's annoying to deal with. This sub is making me realize how smart and quick you have to be to deal with female bullshit. Personally I get annoyed as soon as I know I'm being shit tested and can't pretend that I have fun dealing with her crap.

[–]keepstay3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

that part of the game, you gotta learn to have fun doing this.

[–]Splitdiscs35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Treat her like a kid who won't stop asking for candy before dinner

[–]1Ill_mumble_that26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

"You better be going soon actually, my next girl is waiting outside the door but you're making her nervous"

[–]mrbasic-[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for your reply, man. Very insightful. You're right: as soon as I answered her question, I felt like I was scrambling and caught in a web.

Follow up question: you mentioned I need to educate and give my more "harder to manage" plates some guidance. Can you explain further? Or are there links about this to point me in the right direction?

[–]saltlamp6739 points40 points  (1 child) | Copy

In all honesty, she’s probably fascinated by you. And if you were good in bed on top of your nonchalant attitude, oof she’s definitely reeling. Making a girl feel a tiny bit insecure will make her want more, and want to prove herself more. My guess is, if you hook up again, she’s gonna turn it up a notch 👌👏

[–]mrbasic-[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what I'm hoping for, my man. Even though it was our first time together, the sex was on another level.

That's probably why I was tweaking when she asked me that question lmao.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_RC5196 points97 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is the kind of thinking all men should have.

Women are like city buses, another one will be along in 15 minutes.

There's 4 billion women on this planet. 4 billion. Let that sink in for a minute any time you put 1 on a pedestal.

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[–]RP_utiliser45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah but its not about her now is it

[–]8380atgmaildotcom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is almost everyone (including most people in this thread) are feigning abundance.

[–]Lieisnotreal25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't understand why you actually told her.
I just say "shush"
If she keeps asking I just keep silent and start talking about something else when I feel like it.

[–]no_delay16 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd add in that she's boring me

[–]breakdatass2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Confirmed. Just stare off at nothing, think about something else.

[–]ModernDao49 points50 points  (2 children) | Copy

My immediate thought is that this is a comfort test which could have been handled much better.

In a similar situation in the past, I replied something like, "Gentlemen don't kiss and tell, and neither do I."

When she challenges that, I would not give details but say something like "we just started seeing each other, and yes, to answer your question darling I am seeing other women, but I really enjoy the time we spend together. It's too early to be exclusive, and I don't feel right in divulging intimate details about my interactions with another woman." Really drive home, truthfully, that point about really digging her & spending time with her. If you don't genuinely enjoy spending time with her, then it's for the best. If you do enjoy her, there's no harm in making that clear.

Making her feel special goes a long way to keeping things copacetic. If she really likes you, she'll eventually push for exclusivity. Cross that bridge when it comes, not before.

Mostly I find that spinning a lot of plates is more trouble logistically speaking than it's worth, though having overlap is somewhat unavoidable for a man who's got options.

[–]mrbasic-[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm going to use a variation of "don't kiss and tell" moving forward, it's a really good response.

I honestly didn't think of this being a comfort test, but looking back there were definitely hints of her covertly seeking some type of comfort.

Thank you for your reply.

[–]SheriffBart4266 points67 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't listen to the naysayers. She was gonna become a pain in the ass shortly anyway.

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[–]Snyder7915 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty accurate 🤣 That’s what makes one un-optimistic about long term relationships and marriage...

[–]Domebeers35 points36 points  (6 children) | Copy

"go to the apps to find more" day game too man youll find better women

[–]mrbasic-[S] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly, that's a goal I'm working on. Over the holidays, I realized I use dating apps as a buffer from being rejected immediately and in front of other people. Time to get out of my comfort zone and just do the damn thing.

[–]Domebeers17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

It will do wonders for you. Rejection is a scary thing but realize 90% of the guys don't even have the stones to go get rejected. Once you learn to get past that your 'women world' opens up. I am not able to land 9's on tinder, I'm a normal guy, but I can land 9's IRL because most guys don't even go talk to them.

[–]Snyder7913 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

You think day game gets better women? In what sense like more beautiful or more intelligent with more brains and good personality?

[–]Domebeers16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

eh, if a woman wants to fuck, and she is even halfway attractive, she can. So you have to ask yourself, why is a broad on tinder?

The very fact that the broad is on tinder is a 'red flag'.

[–]KristianSlayter11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

That question was already answered. “90% of guys aren’t willing to be rejected”. Most beautiful women are approached less often than mediocre women. Because men see them as out of their league. So they go to tinder because men are more confident and being rejected isn’t as scary there. That’s why beautiful women use tinder. Because they get approached more. Not because they are all damaged.

[–]mobuckets13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been on Tinder forever, used it heaps and managed to get some decent results.

How do I implement day game? In fact I don't do any real life gaming at all really..

[–]oldslut13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

agree and amplify, ignore, or pressure flip would have been my go to here

[–]poshmarkedbudu11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Next time say something like...

"Do you mean, how many today?"

Smirk and continuing agreeing and amplifying. Don't give a straight answer.

[–]phibetared6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It amazes me how flawlessly this answer always works. If she asks again you say "this morning, at 9:32am was the last time", implying her question is ridiculous.. If she asks AGAIN, then you look at her like you are bored with the line of questioning and it is time to move on. You controlled the situation and she hasn't been outed as the latest cheap conquest. Win/win.

[–]when_its_too_late8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would have said "just this morning" on purpose.

[–]Lambdal712 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to be a bit more cheerful about it, not guilty quiet brief.

Say Wednesday in a quizzical tone without being over the top. She will fin dit interesting instead of insecure, make her feel that you have experience in this that she can ask you anything about it and that she doesn’t have to worry.

This is very new to her and she finds it very interesting. Women love learning about man-women dynamic.

[–]bosslife2424 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

My only question is why aren't your Books on the New York Times best sellers list yet? That was epic writing!

[–]bilabrin3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My goto for questions I don't want to answer is "Well I'd tell you but then it wouldn't be a mystery" * Big smirk

Drives them crazy and then they keep chasing into that frame and you can tease them around endlessly. The sad thing is it can be something really small that they can already figure out but it'll fuck with them for years. I had one ask me about it years later after we broke it off.

[–]Diddlydangerous2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah after getting good at sealing the deal got to comfort to prevent buyer's remorse... reinforce that it was a good decision from the pov of her mating strategy... i.e. locking down a winner in a relationship.

[–]uwey2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Always tell the pictures of words.

In short, the truth should be withhold to grave. Always SPIN, SPIN it hard, bullshit all day so they stay. Only tell truth when you want them to GtFO.

Pussy getting old if you fuck it for more than a year. Time to get a new car.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Options are great. Not just because you can have other pussy.

A lot of guys think abundance, or options, is about saying 'fuck it, I don't care what happens 'cuz I can fuck option number 3 tomorrow'.

That's true, but that sort of laziness means guys can not be improving, learning and getting better.

The beauty of options is if you fuck up, you're spared the often crippling feeling of having zero pussy, beating the shit out of yourself and dealing with all the negative emotions which blur the mind of being able to constructively learn.

With options, you may fuck up with one, but you're able to think 'damn, well at least I still have sex on the cards, so let's focus on the lessons learnt'.

There are a few things here you can learn. Keffirlime said it. Women don't mind engaging in the process. Being seduced, fucking a guy very soon after meeting him. All that jazz. But then they have a little cognitive/emotional dissonance.

They enjoyed the good feelings of being seduced and fucked. But they then think 'will I just be another slut?' 'How overt is this guy about his business'? 'Am I just going to feel like a whore'? 'Will I be pumped and dumped'? Are there now BAD feelings to be had?

I view the post sex 'so is this what you do with lots of girls?' question as a combination shit test/comfort test.

She wants to know that you fuck and other girls are attracted, but she also wants to know you handle your business in a way the girl doesn't feel like a slut and satisfies her ASD and plausible deniability.

There can be a few ways to deal with this.

'I don't kiss and tell. A gentleman respects other people's business'.

'I enjoy sex, but there is a lot more to me. You're not accusing me of being easy, are you?'

'I always enjoy seeing the same woman on a regular basis. We get to find out what really makes each other tick'.

You want to sub-communicate that you handle your shit discreetly, she can be rest assured she won't be pumped and dumped, and she won't just feel like a slut.

You have options, so use the fact that you don't have to worry about going sexless to reflect and learn what to do differently next time.

[–]blue3y3_devil6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

“So, when was the last time a girl was over here?”

Correct answer: When did you last go to another man's home to have sex?

Flip and amplify.

[–]firefarris3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why does this read like a romance novel for the red pill audience? This stuff is getting old…

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I honestly feel this should have been filed under 'building power.'

[–]NormalAndy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Well hopefully she is still in the kitchen making us a sandwich."

[–]californiawaves231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Terrific writing OP and we appreciate you sharing your experience. I have no doubt someone here will get hit with similar pillow talk and be able to use the valuable contributions and comments made here.

My favorite post sex shit/comfort test.... “Are you seeing anyone else?”

They’ll test you at the very moment they think they can get you to slip... stay present folks.

[–]JMVanOrmer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always respond to these games with playful banter even when they relentlessly push the issue. But my problem is she still gets mad because I won’t answer seriously...

[–]Lieisnotreal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Another thing, what's with the netflix step... ?

Putting on netflix just so you can start caressing her like a little virgin boy while watching a film...
This is not how a man has sex.When she comes to your place offer her a drink, talk a little, grab her ass, spit on her face and then clean it with your dick I don't know just don't use that netflix shit it's ridiculous.
Seems to me like people use netflix because they're too scared of looking at her in the eyes.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Next time tell her "I can't remember the last time this room wasn't occupied by a girl..." or the classic "I hope you'll be my last..."

But it takes a while for intuitive grasp to come into the present. In the beginning it always comes too late.

Something about her raised tones seemed to have disturbed you. It's so subtle this becoming her obedient puppy thing, we sometimes fail to realize the frame game is always on. It's never like that with other guys - they're too direct.

Girls use questions to dictate the frame of the narrative. The one answering them is in a subordinate position. The only way out is pressure flip or deflect or illogical answers.

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“When is the last time you had sex, had a girl over, etc.?”

I’ve been answering this question for years with either an agree and amplify response: “what time is it?”

Or, the one that works like a charm: “out of respect for the past women, I don’t kiss and tell”

She cannot press you any further because this response is almost forcing her to “understand where you’re coming from”. How can someone disagree with that response and not come off badly?

It’s been very useful.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lost a couple of really nice chicks in a similar fashion. My theory is that a high value woman, the kind you put a ring on, will understand that, like a second hand BMW, you aren't her first, she isn't your first, but who cares, its still a high value asset you have. Obviously within reason, nobody wants a stunner, smart, funny, but high mileage. Let the young, immature, self doubting, fake confidence toting ones come and go

[–]Flying_Wingback1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your response about Joe acting out over one chick was fucking perfect response AND answer to her question. Should’ve left it at that and changed the subject

[–]z0mb1equeen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now it's all down to how good you fucked her. If you did, her mind if blown right now lol.

[–]tchower0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had something similar to this happen with a argentine girl from class last month. I got her number and stored it and she was being obvious with her flirting and hitting on me, I high fived her and she hugged me, then kicked my feet a few times under the desk in a sexual way. So I called her back later on the phone but didn’t text her but she still didn’t return my call or anything like that, the inner simp in me wanted to call her again or follow up with a text but I had to keep in mind the abundance mentality, but have not heard back.

Girls have way too many options these days, but when you hold the power and she doesn’t have the pussy power over you, you will stand out from all the other guys, and that’s a lot better than being a desperate and needy simp, and it’s better for you also to have that abundance mentality moving forward mentally. Plus I took a Vaca with my buddy not too long after and fucked a latina, and there’s all kinds of tits and ass to look at everyday and pussy all over the world that you can look at just walkin’ around.

[–]lumpedt-4 points-3 points  (7 children) | Copy

y’all are really as bad as females in whore-psychosis. except you’re so blinded by rage and entitlement that none of you can see that you’re walking parallels of what you claim to hate.


[–]Vespersweep6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

What do we claim to hate? Commenters with low reading comprehension?

[–]lumpedt1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Did you not join this forum simply because every woman you had been with previously realized that she too, had options?

[–]Vespersweep4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I joined this forum to learn from endorsed contributors. This forum is borderline shit because most posters don't read the sidebar, or if they do, they don't understand it. Then, they share their undeveloped opinions instead of internalizing and improving. RP posting has become its own form of masturbation. AFC thinks, "if I'm active on this sub, i must be working towards becoming alpha". Those who trickle the knowledge down to chumps like me? They don't spend their time on RP as much as I do. Each has their own way. Goals get you there, not TRP sub. I embraced RP philosophy because it helped me across the board. To elaborate, it helped me find direction and purpose as a man. Before, I was trapped in Nihilism and romantic paradigms. I was weak. I codependently defined my value by whoever I was with, friend or girlfriend. RP helped me find peace with myself, implement raw social truth into my modus operandi, and rebuild many paradigms. Most here need to learn to be truly content with being alone. That's the core of abundance mentality. You won't act from scarcity if you fill your own cup. To answer your question directly- No, not because every woman I'd been with had options. Moreso to have a "big brother" I could listen to while rebuilding a weak, toxic self. Similar to having a reference book for an activity. Take what's good, toss what's bad. Also, it's not wise to sum up an entire community with a generalization. It comes off as foolish.

[–]lumpedt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I respect everything you wrote, and you wrote it well. I agree with everything you stated, except for the last part. (Considering this sub overgeneralizes the entire female population.) I think RP philosophy is fantastic, and offers a viewpoint on life that is beneficial to both men and women - so long as they have morals to tag along with it. No one should feel the subconscious need to act from scarcity, though that’s easier said than done. Men and women do it though, and if they aren’t acting out that way, they tend to act out of fear or anger. I like that you’ve turned your progress inward. And I’m happy you’ve chatted and been conscious of your growth, socially and mentally. As I’m sure you’ve seen there are users both on here and MGTOW that claim to understand the philosophy, claim to understand techniques, but instead of growing and learning for themselves, they choose to live lives full of lies and self-induced grandeur. They believe they hold the keys to the kingdom of never-ending pussy and respect. Yet still, as I’m sure they did before, they have no respect for those outside of them. Varying opinions and knowledge are made inaccessible to them by their own minds because they have become so convoluted in the idea that They Understand It All. Consequently they shit on good people, and call themselves masters of the art. (Those are the ones I have problems with.)

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