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Hey guys,

Coming from a manosphere/PUA background I realized what a lot of these guys are looking for is either a long-term monogamous girlfriend or the other women to form "emotional connections" with. Their primary goal is not to have or enjoy sex. At the same time, many of her gurus/coaches/mentors outline that the solution is to pay them money, so paying directly for sex is wrong but paying them a lot of money is right. Many will tell you, "Just seek a mentor dude."

Validational relationships/sexSince I'm an open-minded guy I did PUA for years. I made myself more attractive to women(fashion, grooming, voice lesson). I learned how to cold approach, number close, set up a date, take the date in my house and escalate. and I GOT RESULTS. However, it wasn't necessarily what I expected. I got a girlfriend and I thought that once I got a girlfriend I could 'rest on my laurels.' Instead, it was more 'WORK' I had to manage my girlfriend! Throughout our whole relationship, I felt my girlfriend was getting more out of the relationships than I was. I would be the one giving her massages, giving her oral(this part is fine with me) but also helping her out on all her issues and problems. Most of the time it felt we were doing things she wanted to do as opposed to what I wanted to do. It felt like a JOB! The pua/coaches/gurus response to all of this, "Buy my relationships management course dude." I felt I was PAYING with my time and effort.

Transactional relationships/sexIn contrast, when I met this SB, I felt she was catering to my needs. She needed help to pay for her college expenses. Therefore, I stepped in to help. I would only see her once a week and we had a set agreement, so I was throwing money l almost never talked to her at all throughout the week. After a long week of hard work she would come, cook my food, give me a message, she would give me BJ's. I was investing WAY LESS than when I was paying these gurus/mentors/pua's I was also investing way less with my time and effort. I felt I was getting more out of the relationship even though it wasn't even my goal and I was also felt I was giving back to the community.

Conclusion: I still do both and I do the PUA/Game as well for my students, and I'll do the cold approach and social circle Game. however, it's not for everyone. I wanted to share this since I feel many "Manosphere" guys apart from being misogynists have a narrow view of relationships. For them the only valid form of relationships are validation but I don't agree. In the future, I feel more guys should start learning about the different types of relationships there are. I do think they fulfill different needs and each guy should have the freedom to pursue what fits best for them.

What do you guys think?