In a lot of posts on this sub, I see BP comments talking about the power of genuine love; how the real problems in a marriage are often things like stress, distribution of chores, etc. Meanwhile the RP perspective would often be that the man doesn't know how to seduce his wife, is too beta, isn't attractive to her anymore, doesn't know how to assert boundaries, etc.

Similarly for non-marriage discussions - "just be yourself " vs "learn game, learn to be more alpha, lift weights, etc.".

My suspicion: the BP comments come from either of the following 2 cases:

  1. Lower SMV women who don't care as much for alpha traits, because hierarchically they belong more with the beta than the alpha
  2. Women who date high enough value guys in the first place, so their dating issues genuinely come from normal things (e.g. stress) rather than RP things (e.g. losing attraction to her man once he's shown commitment). Even if the guy shows more commitment, even as his perceived SMV decreases, he's still high enough value for her to find him attractive and the relationship to stay healthy.

My personal experiences and observations support my suspicion. In an LTR I had where I was ~2 SMV points above her, I never had to worry once about being too beta. She fell under the category of both cases above: she wasn't hot enough to get more alpha guys in the first place, and her hypergamy was already satisfied because I was above her league. When I showed a lot of affection (which was very often), it was genuinely appreciated with no reduction in sexual attraction (or a reduction that didn't affect the fact that I was still out of her league). Incidentally, it doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong about the SMV difference, because the perceived difference was there either way; she asked me out right away and it took 3 months for me to like her enough to date her. So in both our minds, I was the higher SMV partner. Game / hypergamy matters.

In other LTRs I've had where we had more similar SMV, betaness/alphaness played a much bigger role in the dynamics between us. The more beta / loving / etc I was, the more I was taken for granted / seen as less of a catch, the more shit tests I got, and the faster the relationship spiralled into a breakup.

Essentially, being alpha (or beta) matters and can make or break many relationships. Likewise for other RP strategies, like being jacked, being high SMV, not showing too much interest, etc. Girls who don't think it matters either don't go for alpha guys in the first place because they're not high SMV enough to select for alphas, or date high enough value guys that the drop in SMV as he becomes more committed isn't relevant to the health of the relationship. Red pill truths might not be as relevant to my Mexican friend who (by her own words) only goes for tall white guys, or to my overweight androgynous friend who wants to date nerdy metalheads. (Or maybe they are still relevant to those friends, depending on the SMV difference between them and their boyfriends.) But they are very relevant to the average guy wishing to date his looksmatch in the modern dating market, or the average husband stuck in a dead-bedroom marriage.

As one final quick example, I've got a hot white friend who's dating a hot tall white guy, and she's privately expressed dissatisfaction in her relationship due to him being beta (worded in mainstream BP language), but they're still together because his perceived SMV hasn't dropped below her threshold. This would be Case 2.

I understand why many women here are bluepilled, but RP truths are still very relevant to most men.