I am 24M and I have a friend who is 21, she is really nice and we've known each other for a year. She is my sister's acquaintance and we met at my sister's birthday party. I have a crush on her although she isn't exactly my type. Lately I feel like I've been getting vibes that she likes me back.
Last week I won a raffle and have 2 tickets to see a famous singer perform next month in a nearby city. She also happens to like this singer so I asked her if she wanted to go with me as a date. I said I can book us a hotel room and we can spend the night together. She said she'd love to go, but only as friends. She says she's alright with us splitting a hotel room as long as it has two beds. She told me she doesn't feel ready to date anyone at the moment, and she doesn't do flings either, so unfortunately we can only be platonic friends. I said I'll think about it. I was quite hurt because honestly I don't have much experience with rejection, and I was annoyed that she turned me down.
Today, i asked my female coworker to go with me to the concert as a date. She immediately said yes and seemed quite excited about it although she admitted that she never listened to any of their songs. Still, I'm taking her out for drinks on Friday. But just now, the friend who I asked originally asked if we were still on for the concert. I told her honestly that I already asked another woman, and she seemed disappointed but dropped the subject.
When I told my sister about what happened, she said I'm being really douchy. She says her friend is a huge fan of the singer and I should take her instead of my coworker who doesn't even like the band but only wants to go because she likes me. I said she can't understand because she's not a dude. Because let's me honest, if I had the choice between going out with a girl who only wants to be my "friend" versus a girl who is super into me and wants to take things to the next level, then obviously I'm taking the second one. AITA for just being honest about what I want?
EDIT: Because a lot of the hang up is over the hotel room thing: YES I would have been fine if the first girl agreed to go with me as a date, but wanted separate hotel beds/rooms. Nowhere do I even say that we have to share a bed...
But the part where she says she’s not ready to date anyone essentially means she is not interested in me. She likely said she’ll go with me as friends just to be nice and not hurt my feelings. So why would I make the experience awkward for the both of us when I could bring along someone who actually is interested in dating me? EDIT OVER
[–][deleted] 434 points435 points436 points (48 children) | Copy Link
TOP COMMENT (gilded 8 times so far):
Lolololol.... "lose a friend"... something tells me he doesn't need those kinds of friends.
[–]ZodiacBrave98 361 points362 points363 points (22 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he's an asshole. Let's go with that.
This guy has two ways to play this:
1) Be a Nice guy friend. Result -> No Date
2) Be an Asshole . Result -> Hot date.
Hence, women date assholes.
[–]CoMaBlaCK 215 points216 points217 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s an asshole because it’s toxic to be a man who values their own self interests.
You’re supposed to only be a doormat and the second you get tired of putting in work for no results you’re a ‘nice guy’
Meanwhile the girl who’s ‘not looking for a relationship’ will blow chad in his car while one of the bands songs are playing on their first date like it’s no big deal.
[–]muricanwerewolf1Mansplaining on Nightmare Difficulty 127 points128 points129 points (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s not really even an asshole move, he was honest about what he wanted and intended to do. Any woman that gives you a “ill think about it” without a deadline to get back to you is gonna run that deadline out, and it makes sense. It puts you on notice that it won’t work out.
I’m proud of this young man for finding a plan B and gratified the first girl was honest about what she wanted.
[–][deleted] 59 points60 points61 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The idea was that he is being called an asshole and lo-and-behold the asshole got a date, thereby the opposite result they said he should get.
[–]muricanwerewolf1Mansplaining on Nightmare Difficulty 64 points65 points66 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s just such childish thinking I can’t take it seriously. Like if a woman agreed to go on a date with a man, and said “hey, you know what, not feeling it, gonna have to cancel” while it’s def gonna hurt the mans feelings it’s her call, and he’s expected to suck it up.
So the constant message for men is in dating, nobody owes you anything, and then a woman turns this guy down for a date and he’s an asshole for not taking her out anyway? The entitlement these women feel on the account of another woman is unreal.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“Here’s 1 million dollars, do you want it?”
“That’s so nice! Let me think about it...”
Let me think about it = no pussy tingles for you and let me play mind games to mind fuck some weak betas to maximize my returns.
[–]TomahawkSuppositorySurvived the hoe hunger games 64 points65 points66 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Do t practice “toxic masculinity” and have no sex. Practice “toxic masculinity” and get more ass than a toilet seat.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You sir sound like a fellow Leykis Student, I salute you!
[–]TomahawkSuppositorySurvived the hoe hunger games 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Been once since I was 24 years old.
[–]BreathManuallyNow 61 points62 points63 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I was dating this girl for a while, we fooled around a bit but she was kinda flakey and decided she just wanted to be friends. She wasn't just saying this as a way to break up, she really did want to be friends. She even bought us tickets to Arcade Fire and she would invite me to parties.
I was fine with this for a while but then she would start asking me to hang out every Saturday night until I told her no because I wanted to reserve those nights for romantic dates with other women. I said I'd hang out with her on random weekdays though. She was kind of offended by this and couldn't understand why I didn't want to use up Saturday nights on someone that just wanted to be friends.
So yeah, I chose to be an 'asshole' as well because I wanted to get laid and I would do it again.
[–]orcscorper 39 points40 points41 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, I'll hang out with you every Saturday night, just invite a single girlfriend to hang with us. Not setting us up or anything; just chilling. Maybe we'll click. No fatties, please.
[–]SirOsric 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You. You're good
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Had the same thing: a woman I’d fooled around with twice, then decided she only likes me “as a friend”, but wanted favors, rides, to hang out every weekend. I lasted a few months then realized I was getting used. Deleted her number, moved on. If you really want to see her flip out, just ignore her completely. Women go into stalker mode when they realize their source of free attention as dried up
[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sweet baby jesus, you hacked the female firewall.
[–]LimaSierra92 34 points35 points36 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, that equation made more sense than the shit I was learning in math class!
[–]ZodiacBrave98 74 points75 points76 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Asshole in guy speak = Bad person, avoid him.
Asshole in girl speak = Not giving her what she wants, when she wants it. The guy in question can still be a good dude all around
[–]CavannahWAATGM Endorsed 34 points35 points36 points (2 children) | Copy Link
It's like the "girl inches" vs "real inches" for dick sizes
If you or I (or likely any one of the people on this sub) call someone an asshole, it's because they evidence poor quality of character and negative traits.
If a girl calls someone an asshole, it's literally just an assertion of that person's agency and telling the world that they couldn't be dominated emotionally into a submissive/responsive state.
Never forget that a woman's prime directive is emotional conquest. Anyone who refuses to change and continues being themselves, who she couldn't subdue or sway, is an "asshole," which means absolutely nothing.
[–]zaze12 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
When a girl call me asshole,jerk,ecc ecc I feel something good is going on.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, she's more likely to fuck you!
[–]SamsAdvice 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Asshole: A guy who does what he wants, whether others like it or not. (The more honest guy).
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I say good sir, may I have a large helping of option 2 please!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Girls like the bad boys and that's a fact.
[–]RealMcGonzoJr. Hamster Analyst 83 points84 points85 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Somebody responded with this gem:
[–]sleepyweaselisawakePlowing his way through muck 72 points73 points74 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course he's the asshole! He had something the first girl wanted, she was entitled to it as soon as he asked her out because that's how it works.
Now.. he's going to go to the concert and have an awesome time with someone who doesn't even like the band so he can get laid. Which is as it should be.
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If she had offered sex and he rejected her to go out on a real date with a woman, then she would have been praised, no downright glorified for such bravery.
[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points (3 children) | Copy Link
top commenter is a likely a lesbian based on post history
if so:
statistically likely to be in a abusive relationship, also likely for "lesbian bed death" aka dead bedroom. statistically likely to have been abused by a male, hence lesbian.
Probably not best person to give an unbias response.
[–]album1 28 points29 points30 points (2 children) | Copy Link
If they’re not a lesbian, they’re bipolar, in an abusive relationship, open relationship, and/or fat.
[–]TomatoPoodle 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's so pathetically sad how true this is for the lesbians I've known. I don't know a single one that hasn't checked at least two of those boxes.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or all of the above.
[–]BreathManuallyNow 49 points50 points51 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel sorry for any men that only see the mainstream subreddits and think they need to live their lives by these rules or be considered a "creep".
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If they are curious about Freedom, they will find the right subs.
The ones that aren't, stay in the cess pit their entire lives, only popping their head up to complain about how cold and lonely they are.
[–]DeeplyDisturbed1FDS Dinner Donor 24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree and amplify. He is toxic masculinity according to the female hive mind. So be it. Laugh it off and move on.
[–]kaolin224BFF Annihilator 24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is fucked. I can't believe how many people jumped on him.
He wanted to be more than friends, she didn't. He moved on another prospect who actually wanted a date and he's the asshole?
Getting laid at the end is exactly why he wanted it to be a date. Otherwise, why not take one of his guy buddies and they can both get high and enjoy some music. Maybe they meet girls there and get laid.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The biggest thing I don't know why people don't understand is that dating is a transactional encounter.
When you date someone romantically, you offer up time, effort, and money in exchange for time, companionship, and sex.
You DON'T spend money or resources if you know someone isn't into you period.
[–]KingRobotPrince26 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
What I can't stand, is the fact that for some reason a woman can descriminate on looks, wealth and personality, but men are vilified for considering anything more than personality.
If men go for looks, they're shallow. If they go for sexual history, they're misogynistic.
It seems so unfair that a woman can have a list of demands, while a man is evil for doing the same.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. But that's equality. /s
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think they are pushing socialism hard now in the US? There’s 50% of the population that will be unable to support themselves because they’re a net drain on tax coffers. Since men are no longer directly subsidizing them in a mutually beneficial relationship the government will steal from the producers to provide for the moochers while they are no longer obligated to be pleasant human beings.
Get ready for a society of full on wild feral animals.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 12 points13 points14 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Men want sex from women, and other news at 11!
“Rescind an invitation...” how about the deal was conditional on sex? Nothing was rescinded. These idiots should try using their brains instead of their programming.
[–]Uesugi1989 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Man, just leave aside the sex or the date and non date debate.
First of all, it was his own tickets and he can invite whoever the fuck he wants, without any obligation to anyone
And most importantly, he wants to have a good time. Will he have a good time by going with a girl that recently rejected him ? Hell no, it will be awkward as fuck for the guy
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There are no brains. Only programming.
[–]Davethemann 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Im glad to see the third top comment with some sanity tho
[–]MetaCognitio 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why not? What is wrong with that?
[–]SelectAirline 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Funny, because I thought it was agreed upon by all that consent can be withdrawn at any time. Why wouldn't that apply here?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He never consented so he can't withdraw. This point isn't lost, they just move the goal posts so men continue to grant privileges to women for existing.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Who gilds shit? No humans I know. Most likely AstroTurf just like all the other Normie subs.
[–]kevin32Reddit's Ambassador for NiceGuys™[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (13 children) | Copy Link
This is a shaming tactic that subtly implies that men should give women attention, favors and resources without expecting something they might value in exchange. And the guy's perspective?
To all Friendzone Fionas, the lesson here is this: If a man isn't entitled to sex for anything, then neither are women entitled to men's attention, favors or resources for anything. Does that make him a NiceGuy™ or a misogynist? Oh fucking well, he's now a NiceGuy™ and a misogynist who's getting action. No matter how many upvotes and support the shaming tactics get, men are not going to play by your rules if they're not going to benefit from it.
Sex or GTFO for someone who will.
[–]Roto2esdios 22 points23 points24 points (6 children) | Copy Link
He doesn't want her as a friend... what's the problem?
He stated that sincerely.
The real problem is ... she got rejected
[–]anyoneinamerica 25 points26 points27 points (5 children) | Copy Link
The real problem is that she was replaced by another female, VERY easily, and her fragile ego can't handle that there may be someone else that he is interested in. She doesn't want him but she also doesn't want anyone else to have him. Her delusion that she has a magical pussy that can command him (and other guys) without every having to sleep with any of them, has been shattered.
The friendzone fiona concept is simple: she can use him as a resource provider and an emotional tampon without having to provide any reciprocity. He just nuked that one out of the water and now she has to find a new orbiter to fleece. However, she and her twat laden compatriots will first attempt to force him back in line through shaming and ridicule, when that doesn't work they will use actual sex as leverage. If he is smart, then he won't get hooked on it and only use her (and her friends) as a FWB/pump and dump.
Sadly we likely won't get to hear about how it worked out.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I think it's more that she felt entitled to those resources simply because she wanted them, but the fact that he's using them on another woman is certainly going to rub salt in the wound.
I could have this entirely backwards, though.
[–]anyoneinamerica 7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Probably a combination of things.
She wants what she wants when she wants it. He has been her beta orbiter (or beta orbiter recruit). She thought that she had him firmly in her clutches and he bitch slapped her back into reality. She knows there are other women out there competing for attention, cash, and prizes. She lost this round to one whom either genuinely has interest in this guy OR at least knows that pussy is the way to control a guy best. Either way, the guy is likely to get laid and FZ Fiona is going to be butt-hurt. Joy to be had by all, but her.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Brings a tear to my eye. I wish I had been so based, and I'll make sure my son learns from my mistakes.
[–]anyoneinamerica 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
We all seem to have drawn the short straw. I am no different and I plan to have my sons fully enlightened before they leave my house. If we don't learn from history then we are destined to repeat it.
[–]Roto2esdios 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well said bro
[–]MetaCognitio 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Her body her choice, his tickets her choice.
[–]PhilhelmSmashing the patriarchy one single mother at a time 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fucking retarded. If the OP invited someone to a concert, explicitly as a date, then he has no obligation to continue to extend the offer once that date is rejected. That would be like asking a girl out to movie date, be told that she's not ready to date, but still be expected to take her to a movie.
I could understand if he asked her to go to the concert as a friend and then tried to sell it as a date, but that's not what happened.
[–]StrawhatMucci 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Best mod 👊
[–]MetaCognitio 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears, is the man still in the wrong?
[–]NemuNemuChan[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
smh
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Very true.
Men are not entitled to sex from women. Fine.
Then women are not entitled to men's time, attention, money, favors, resources, labor, or sexual fidelity.
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 211 points212 points213 points (23 children) | Copy Link
He is the asshole??? MASSIVE HONK HONK..
toxic masculinity??? HONK HONK ...
AITA is full of NPC's.
They wanted him to waste his resources on her for free bc she likes the band. I think he is not the asshole for just acting on his best interest and get different woman also she is not the asshole as she does not have to sleep with him just for being invited. The assholes are all those fucking NPC's writing about toxic masculinity.
[–]JZSquared 76 points77 points78 points (19 children) | Copy Link
To be honest, most of Reddit is full of NPCs.
[–]album1 48 points49 points50 points (10 children) | Copy Link
I had a white knight keep calling me an incel even after I told him I have a son and a girlfriend. It’s as if his programming kept going.
[–]usa_foot_print 48 points49 points50 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I had a few white knights call me an incel because I said being a whore is bad for society. And one even gave me advice on how to improve myself. Lol the dumbshit. I am married and have a kid on the way
[–]album1 15 points16 points17 points (4 children) | Copy Link
lmao the whole shower, grooming and hit the gym spiel.
[–]OnlyHanzoThrowing stones in glass buildings 20 points21 points22 points (1 child) | Copy Link
HIT THE WOMEN, RESPECT SHOWER!1
[–]PhilhelmSmashing the patriarchy one single mother at a time 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And let that sink inside.
[–]usa_foot_print 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Tbf I think every man should be hitting the gym solely for their mental fortitude.
[–]AncientMGTOWWISDOMSaves beached High School whales 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
muscular fortitude as well but i feel ya
[–]zaze12 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They don't care,they are programmed to use "incel" to attack you if you are not aligned with their right thinking. I am one of the "jerks" who have multiple girls,but they would call me "incel" (online) anyway because I'm not a mangina.
[–]houseoftolstoyUnchivalrous Christian 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They seem to believe that an "incel" is a mindset rather than a classification. This is why terms should be well defined and used properly. Too many interpretations of words means that effective communication is impossible.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Russia Russia Russia
[–]TheGoblinTurkey 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What does NPC stand for? I'm guessing it's not Non Playable Character ...
[–]JZSquared 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Definition
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
it's mesmerizing, I just a video from Mr Obvious (bringing you the obvious ) about the Reddit post on aphantasia and language thinking, these people are real and effective NPC's they can't picture images on their minds nor think in a internal voice
[–]eViLegion 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
WTF has aphantasia got to do with being an NPC?
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
everything... NPC programming does not allow them to hear their own voice or see images in their minds their thinking it's like pre-set clusters of information used only to repeat the narrative.
[–]eViLegion 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I think you've misunderstood what aphantasia is.
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
NPC programming produces it, that's the idea
[–]eViLegion 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, so you mean nonsense then. Right.
[–]frikabgJr. Hamster Analyst 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It is not even that things are simple in my mind she wanted to come as a friend? Fair enough offer to pay up for your ticket and transport expenses and the hotel room than you can come as friend if not fuck right off!
''I will come as a friend but you are still going to pay for everything because we are besties now!'' GTFO! What kind of a friend that you just made asks you to pay for his/her shit? A parasitic one yet she is the victim here ... lol maybe since she is such a good friend she should just open up her bank account and pay for EVERYTHING!
[–]anyoneinamerica 124 points125 points126 points (17 children) | Copy Link
EXACTAMUNDO brother. See we can learn. Female 'plutonic' friends are just there to extract your resources and not provide any benefit. Just like a sexless marriage. Ride the other one until the train stops.
The only problem that I see with this guys thought processing is that he asked a girl from work. Don't shit where you eat.
EDIT: I just re-read it and noticed the OP's user name. Not only is he an asshole, but he is probably a natural born asshole; but in this case he is not THE asshole.
The first girl in the scenario (sister's friend) tried to drop a shit test AND precursory LMR on the OP and had her ass kicked to the curb. My 45 year old ass salutes him. I wish that I had that natural prowess or insight when I was 24.
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 60 points61 points62 points (0 children) | Copy Link
he did what all men have to do, do not trade your resources for nothing.
[–]Yithar 9 points10 points11 points (15 children) | Copy Link
I'll be honest. I'm attracted to a co-worker. There's a good chance if I asked her out that she would say yes, but that's not what I'm concerned about. My concern would be team dynamics and future repercussions. We're teammates that have to see each other every single day. I mean, she's at least somewhat aware that I do like her, but I haven't said anything, because I"m trying very hard not to rock the boat. But the other thing is someone else told on a different subreddit, that my team probably won't exist as it does right now in 5 years. And he's probably right. My boss might leave, who knows.
[–]anyoneinamerica 33 points34 points35 points (8 children) | Copy Link
The problem isnt the relationship with this woman. The problem is when the relationship implodes. Women get vindictive and start making shit up to paint you as the villian. They cannot separate work life from personal life issues. HR will get involved, take her side (unquestionably), reprimand you for sexual harrasment, sexual discrimination, and hostile work environment. Since HR is almost always female, you are guilty until proven guilty. There is no escape for you. Then you will be summarily fired without the oportunity to defend yourself. The juice isnt worth the squeeze.
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well done, sir.
[–]Yithar 8 points9 points10 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I think the right play here is to just not to have relationships in general, but easier said than done. It's hard avoiding people when you live in a society.
[–]29262719 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
BOTTOM TEXT
[–]Yithar 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I was re-reading my post and I was like, "BOTTOM TEXT"? Wait what?
[–]Such_A_Condition 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You seem to be doing a great job of it, Mr. I've never been on a date.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Dating is like Russian roulette with four bullets, it's likely to be shit and by a slim chance it will work out.
[–]anyoneinamerica 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Get married is like adding 2 rounds to the weapon.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Guilty until proven guilty, I love it!
[–][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Yithar 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you for your perspective. This is exactly what I was worried about. Like when you're going out things are great but you can break up and then you have to see each other day. And from what I've seen, tend to pick sides, often siding with the female because she's a female.
So my team is pretty balanced. Other than my boss and my lead, it's actually split completely 50% down the middle in terms of gender. Well, at least that's how it is now. Meetings are a little bit awkward sometimes because the other female on our team seems to have an interest in me too. I'm a smart, attractive, kind person, so I mean I like me too, but at same time, I'm just a human being all the same.
[–]Such_A_Condition 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people direct their blame to the woman in this case. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about. See for example https://www.forbes.com/sites/peggydrexler/2014/04/07/the-truth-about-office-romance/ Heck, it's usually the lady who has to quit the company afterwards.
And of course this only applies to heterosexual relationships. What about lesbian or gay workplace romances? How can this rule apply when both are women?
[–]ValuableRope 5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
And you could also not have a job due to that. Drop the oneitis.
[–]Yithar 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks for the advice. I did say I was trying hard not to rock the boat.
As in even if I didn't drop the oneitis, it wouldn't change anything because nothing's going to happen.
[–]Such_A_Condition 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's quite unusual. Touche!
[–]ZodiacBrave98 126 points127 points128 points (9 children) | Copy Link
This highlights a big difference between real friends and fake girl friends. For the record, women can be real friends but let's run through the story with a dude instead.
This guy wins the tickets. Invites his guy friend to go with him, all expenses paid. No problems so far.
Then this guy musters his courage and surprise! He's got a hot date with a coworker he's been eyeing some time now. If he calls up his boy and tells the exact story above, what do you expect the guy friend to say? "Congratulations man, hope you get laid. Invite me to the wedding".
Instead all he got was negative attitude and drama.
This woman 'friend' isn't looking out for our boy here. She's no friend. She's just Friend Zoning him for free tickets.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos 79 points80 points81 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Exactly. Women are expert users.
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow. What a great analogy. It didn’t occur to me to think about it this way. Well done.
[–]__WALLY__ -4 points-3 points-2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
No its not. "Guy blows off his friend for some girl who will only date him for the big ticket gig"? Fuck that shit and that guy. What's wrong with starting off dating with something honest and free/cheap (where she actually wants to spend time with guy)
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why u hating on a man trying to get his noodle in a poodle?
[–]frikabgJr. Hamster Analyst 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you know what is the most ridiculous part for me? If I won tickets and I invited as male friend and he replies to me ''i will think about it'' than 3 days later he calls me and asks me ''Are we still going to that concert'' and I reply with ''Sorry my dude I found a FEMALE CO-worker to take to the concert'' he will be HAPPY for me! He won't be mad angry or let down he will be fucking happy for me and if he wants he can buy a ticket on his own and join us. These 'people' that are defending this girl and having a go at the guy are so sexist and bias that it is mind blowing. With all do respect but he didn't owe this woman ANYTHING and they are acting like he did...
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
This move is beta af.
You made plans with your friend you don’t reneg on that for the chance to whiff some pussy.
You tell the girl you’ll take her to McDonald’s and on the date tell her what a wild time you and your boy had and maybe next time she can come along if she’s lucky.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
No there were no plans. He offered. The offer expired without acceptance. He is right. Men handle contracts logically but women dont. Like everything else there emotions of the moment are all that matters.
Man loses election. I wish my opponent all the best.
Woman loses election? Melt the entire nation into rubble!
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think we’re debating two different scenarios:
Scenario a:
You offer your boy a trip, he says I’ll think about it. No deal has been made. You’re free to do what you want—ie bring a girl instead.
Scenario b:
You offer your boy and he happily agrees to go. The deal has been made. It will be really pathetic to drop your boy for the chance to whiff pussy. The pussy isn’t even guaranteed. It’s a low class thing to do.
[–]Hold_Bold_Gold_Mold 106 points107 points108 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I saw this post! It's obvious to tell who the worthless feminists are. They expect the guy to still pay for the female "friend" to have a good time while not reciprocating.
[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 56 points57 points58 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Post 2 weeks later same question but switch genders. Can you guess the result?
[–]Hold_Bold_Gold_Mold 61 points62 points63 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol we all know the result. The feminists would say how stunning and brave the girl is for ditching a guy.
[–]TheBestRapper 20 points21 points22 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Everybody clapped
[–]crassrecords 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You go girl!
[–]valenin 22 points23 points24 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Compare it to the shrieking on other posts about how women who accept invitations to hotel rooms for coffee and are then shocked and disgusted when the guy makes a pass are given sympathy and everyone’s behind them.
Those guys should know better, they’re assholes for assuming that going back to the hotel room has implications.
But this guy’s an asshole because asking the girl to share a hotel room has implications, and the girl was justifiably salty because she behaved accordingly.
[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 79 points80 points81 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm. Let's see. Get used by a chick who's explicitly told me that she's not interested in me or take a nice trip with a chick who's into me who might wind up being a good girlfriend or at least a nice roll in the hay. Tough choice, but I think I'll go with the second option regardless of how toxic that makes me.
What this story really is is a shining example of toxic femininity, a topic we're not supposed to even mention.
[–]Captainbuttman 69 points70 points71 points (5 children) | Copy Link
It was very refreshing seeing someone in the wild suggesting "if their expectations lined up there wouldn't be any assholes here."
Remember that, the woman's reaction determines if you did anything wrong. There are no rules or consistency, only women's feelings.
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly this. It’s one reason so many men think dating has become a joke. The double standards are just plain to see. If you’re attractive you can kill your whole family and get adoring women mailing you letters like Chris watts. If you’re ugly then you’re a “creep” for daring to ask a woman out and not magically knowing beforehand she wasn’t interested.
[–]Stahlboden 28 points29 points30 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If it makes a woman feel good it can't possibly be a bad thing
If it makes a woman feel bad it can't possibly be a good thing
[–]frikabgJr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
and this is why I generally dislike women... the majority of the comments are from cunts who think they are entitled to a men's time and money no matter what they say or do.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The best part are normies redpilling themselves. There were more than one comment about how he isn’t the asshole and why are they getting outvoted like 4 to 1. 50% of reddit at a minimum is sock puppet or bot accounts. That’s how.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, but 65% of Reddit are mindless npc drones.
[–]Bestoftherest222Jr. Hamster Analyst 72 points73 points74 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Come on boys this is a classic case of females being mad at their beta bucks not falling in line.
Lets start off with all these women mad at the idea a "Friend-zone" date was proposed and rejected by the male!
"The insolence, don't these beta males know that they need to provide goods and services as "friend-zone" orbiters? We need to control the narrative and denounce what this male did."
"We need him to feel bad for doing what he did, otherwise we will lose those cash and prizes orbiters give us. Even worse we might lose the orbiters that might be beta bux material when we're 40. Unacceptable, he needs to be shamed!"
Its rather sad that the OP's sister was upset for the same reasons.
I do love how women are well tuned into these tactics though. They don't use logic, rather they just shame. They shame because this male has given them the impression he can be shamed into compliance.
[–]LordMitre 7 points8 points9 points (6 children) | Copy Link
and how do we counter their attempts of shaming?
[–]Bestoftherest222Jr. Hamster Analyst 32 points33 points34 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Shaming is something all women will do, the male needs to show it doesn't mean shit. Just carry on. If a man responds to shaming it only leads to more shaming.
[–]DenimRaptNightmare 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. And like someone said above, a good strategy is to agree and amplify. "Yep, I'm extremely toxic. So what?"
[–]LordMitre 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
cool
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Shaming is bullying. If you laugh at your bully and show they can't hurt you they get bored and leave you alone- though I always thought a punch in the nose was the best way to handle a bully.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Shaming only works if you let it. Think about it: if I called you an incel, but you know you aren't, then you'll just go "wtf?" and move on with your life instead of freaking out that someone called you an incel. You'd only freak out if you were trying your best to bluff that you're not an incel and someone called you out on it.
It's the reason slut-shaming is so hated; if it didn't bother them, they wouldn't worry about it, but it very obviously does.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Dngaf! Double down and laugh at their childish little girl tactics. Like all bullies, if it doesn't bother you they will stop and go look for other victims.
[–]SilverGryphonWorking his way to the titty top 69 points70 points71 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Wow the top comment calling him an asshole gets 1 platinum, 8 gold and 15 silver. Truly a cucked world we live in. I almost broke my laptop screen in anger.
The fuck is wrong with this fucking world we live in?
Fucking shit man at least it's night here or it this would have ruined my day.
[–]BreathManuallyNow 35 points36 points37 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not enough fathers around to set men straight. They have to find out through the media how to behave, which will always give them shit advice.
[–]isactuallyspiderman 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What's even worse is knowing most of the posters in that thread/giving golds are statistically men. Cucked generation beyond fucking belief.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 20 points21 points22 points (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL. The female supremacy cartel is quite invested in maintaining a cucked world. So are international business interests...
[–]TheBestRapper 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
DING DING DING! Women make up ~90% of consumer spending in America!!!
[–]Mr-Ultimate 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This was funny asf
[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016Sucked off the white pubes of despair 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s astroturf don’t sweat it. The gilding is to show “authority” and group conformance to normies.
[–][deleted] 56 points57 points58 points (2 children) | Copy Link
That hits close to home. I was destroyed when my then girlfirend ended the relationship. I went home, cried a damn lot, then at the same night knocked on the door of a girl that wouldn't stop chasing me.
- Won't your girlfriend be mad at you for coming here?
- I don't have a girlfriend anymore.
Before I would come in so she could console me, we talked for a few minutes at her door, and a group of friend passed by. One of them even came to talk me, worried about how I was.
I think all that happened in less than two hours. I knew after that she was mad with that.
So, yeah. "Man. We don't know what we did".
To be fair, I missed her for a long time before I emotionally moved forward. Whenever I was with other women, it felt more like consolation than moving ahead. Time and focusing on my goals eventually took care of it.
P.S: and yes, today she is a fat single mother with a social studies degree who moved back to her parents home after traveling europe for many years.
EDIT: wtf, he was most voted as the asshole??? Oh. Right. We are on reddit. Disregard, go ahead.
[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 36 points37 points38 points (0 children) | Copy Link
But of course he was. He did not bow to mighty vagina, but decided to pursue his selfinterest instead. Only women are allowed and cheered on being selfish, get on with times gramps!
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Gotta love a story with a happy ending🐱😉
[–]TomahawkSuppositorySurvived the hoe hunger games 51 points52 points53 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Toxic masculinity because you are interested in dating. Wow
[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 33 points34 points35 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Possessing a penis is 100% proof that one has the toxic masculinity. Unless one is trans of course, but then the TERFs start screaming, so...
[–]TomahawkSuppositorySurvived the hoe hunger games 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
My response to these feminists is, thank god I don’t bleed.
[–]fmanlySr. Hamster Analyst 52 points53 points54 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That is EXACTLY what this means.
I have a stepdaughter. I can't tell you how many times I heard the speech after a breakup about how she was going to take a break and wasn't looking to date anybody anytime soon. I think the longest I've seen her go without a boyfriend since she was 14 is a week. And that is just the part I'VE seen - between hearing about the breakup and hearing about the new boyfriend. Chances are she started hanging out with the new boyfriend before announcing it to family. So, in reality she probably has gone all of about a week total in her entire post-pubescent life without a boyfriend of some sort.
When a girl tells you she isn't ready to date anybody, that just means she isn't interested in you. In 15 minutes if the right guy comes along she'll be perfectly ready to date.
I also follow some of the widower forums on reddit and you see the same pattern. Lots of freshly-widowed younger women who talk about how they'll never find another guy like the one they JUST lost. The younger ones still talking about it two years later are generally men. Women live in the moment - if they have options they like, they're available.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos 23 points24 points25 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for your insight. Female humans are such liars and hypocrites. They are always pounding their chests about being "strong and independent" and yet they can't seem to stand even just a bit of solitude. I have learned never to believe anything they say anymore.
[–]Planner_Hammish 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Her n count must be in double digits and she's still a teenager. Sad.
[–]CavannahWAATGM Endorsed 47 points48 points49 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The people that screech from the rooftops that "You aren't entitled to sex; her body, her choice!" are the same ones that attempt to emotionally bludgeon the OP into submission because they feel that a woman is entitled to a man's resources, attention, energy, and time.
[–]IcariusFallenI can see your bullshit from here! 26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Also the same ones that scream that a man has no right to tell a woman no to sex, and that women can't rape men.
[–]AuFaitDan 40 points41 points42 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a scary world when people think you're an asshole for not wanting to go on a date with someone who isn't interested in you.
[–]superstar9976 27 points28 points29 points (0 children) | Copy Link
AITA is filled with soy chuggers. He was 100 percent open with his intentions. She wasn't into it, he found someone who is. Women aren't entitled to a concert, sorry. 🤡🌍
[–]CoMaBlaCK 22 points23 points24 points (4 children) | Copy Link
You’re the asshole for wanting more than being a soycucked doormat internet white knight for fake points. Obviously you should have not wanted anything out of it and invited a girl that wants nothing to do with you on a date because patriarchy.
If these people had actual friends they’d know you don’t have female friends, you either have people you want to have sex with or have already had sex with.
[–]DenimRaptNightmare 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The only female friends I have are spouses or SOs of other dudes. That's the only exception, I think.
[–]CoMaBlaCK 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn’t even consider those women your friends, let’s be honest, you don’t call up your buddies to talk to their wives.
[–]DenimRaptNightmare 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, they're my friends. Pretty objective word really, but we get along and I enjoy their company. And they tolerate my beer farts in their houses, so what can I say?
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You might want times it until your wife filed for divorce. Only then will you find your true friends and I have need for you. They are not your wife's friends. They will side with her 99.4% of the time.
[–]keithrockz 18 points19 points20 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Toxic masculinity????? Rule #1: Nothing is free in this world ,sweetheart.....except the clap,and not many people want that...
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What...what is...The Clap? Is that the name of the band he got the tickets to see?
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Toxic femininity: entitlement
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I always forget how stupid most redditors are until I read some of those top comments. Jesus Christ.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points (10 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I don't understand this??? Ask someone on a date, they refuse, ask someone else. Simple as that.
If a woman said she did that then everyone would be like 'yes girl you go get some!!' ew
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Seriously. The number of people in the comments saying he should have taken her anyways just blows my mind. Every one of them said something like “relationships have to start somewhere. Just be her friend and maybe she’ll get feelings for you.” Ridiculous blue pill garbage.
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points (2 children) | Copy Link
That is the biggest blue pill of them all. The idea that as long as you are nice to a woman and treat them well, she will reciprocate with interest. But the truth is, she will never be interested in a man that gives up his time and money for free.
The fact that society pushes this shit and it's so blatantly the exact opposite of what women want is very telling on the fraud and other deceptive tactics used to enslave and subjugate men all around the world.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not only does society push this nonsense, but they shut down and shame any of us that dare to disagree. We’re publicly labeled misogynists, incels, or bitter men even though most of us are good people who try to treat others right and demand the same in return. These insults serve no other purpose than to inflict as much emotional damage as possible, and to blacklist opponents publicly.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just as everything they do, they fuck it up. Now we just get a good example of the ridiculous methods women use to keep men beneath them in the social hierarchy.
[–]BreathManuallyNow 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
In reality he will go fuck the other girl, then the 1st girl will find out and suddenly find him attractive.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Just be her friend... and risk being friendzoned? I had a crush on a guy for close to a year and it never went anywhere, just a waste of emotions and time. From the get go I believe both people need to be on the same page or at least very open to the idea of romance
[–][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
We don't want you going around stirring up trouble. I posted this here because it actually asks reddit to give them an answer about YTA, NTA, etc. So it's fair game. But that doesn't mean you can go around, representing our sub, and stir up or have arguments with all those people you know you aren't going to change their mind about shit and certainty not go around bragging that you were banned for it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Check my comment history. I was commenting on that post long before it was linked to here. I’m subbed to AITA and saw it early on. I don’t represent anyone but myself.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I did.
I get that.
Yeah, I get it.
Except when you go around our sub here and brag about being banned from another sub by stirring up trouble. I know you stirred up trouble because if you had just left a comment YTA, NTA and argued sensibly you wouldn't have been banned. I know this because there are plenty of comments to the opposite of the Top Establishment Comment there who aren't banned.
You represent the sub when you chose to come here bragging about commenting and subsequently getting banned somewhere else. Now when other people come here they see your unruling, superior-maniac attitude and reference you as a sub member.
I feel like I have stated my case here. If you don't like it, don't agree with it, don't want to hear anymore of it, then be quiet about it or leave. That is all I can offer you on the matter, sorry.
[–]Stahlboden 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If she was a real friend and not a friendzone Fiona she would have counter-offered to go, but to pay for her own ticket and room.
First, because it's rude to suggest your friends to implicitly pay for yourself which she did.
And second, because this good time with a friend would've been valuable to her all by itself and not just the free ride.
[–]prestidigibator 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I loved the comments saying he was creepy and pervy. They just can’t understand that there are a ton of women that would be totally down for such an arrangement. Nope, you ruined an opportunity and made her uncomfortable. It’s not his job to give a shit if it made her uncomfortable. It’s his job to find who will willingly fuck him. If she didn’t like the idea of essentially being put into a situation that made her uncomfortable then she wasn’t the girl he was looking for.
This is a common thread with those post. All these women think that all women will think the same about something and are delicate flowers. The reality is they’d be down too to the right person but will lie to the world that they wouldn’t.
[–]Badrinminton 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are so entitled to everything. Why would this guy take that girl to a concert who isn't interested in dating him. Just whyyyy?? So many white knights and feminazis with unrealistic views. If I where the guy, I would have just ghosted that girl and moved on. I am disgusted at the YTA comments. These people are mostly girls who don't want to lose their privilege in getting free stuff from desperate guys
[–]TruthSeekingPerson 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m at a loss as to how he is an asshole. She can buy her own ticket and go with one of her friends.
She’s actually an asshole for inviting herself as a friend.
[–]pdxphreek 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You're not the asshole, the first chick wanted a free ticket and hotel room.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Any sign of weakness will be exploited. His sister already thinks he can be shamed, and he posted this on Reddit because of how unconfident he was. Of course they see him as a weak mark that can be shamed like a child. If they saw him as a man GTFO none of that would go down. They don't fear him and don't respect him so they disrespect him.
The posters on the sub don't respect him through the same mechanism. Through his actions he comes across as weak and unconfident so they shame him and disrespect him like the BB they see him as.
Ask questions of losers, get answers from losers. Lend an ear to losers, get an earful from losers. Act like a bitch, get treated like a bitch. Seek female validation / play woman games, get woman prizes. Look like a mark, get treated like a mark. Oh the symbols.
[–]bestsparkyalive 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That sub is a toxic echo chamber that intensifies outrage culture. It’s best for everyone to stay away. Honestly it should be quarantined lol
[–]Fly_Guy_97 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That sub is full of actual retards who do not understand how the real world works... holy fuck that is sad to see
[–]a-corsican-pimp 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That sub is a shithold and the mods are cunts. Every time a thread gets good, they accuse anonymous people of "brigading" and shut it down, doubly so if it's a guy vs girl and people are him NTA.
[–]KingRobotPrince7 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Absolutely disgusting.
It's so frustrating that in this age of female empowerment it seems that a major part of the movement is to lock in female entitlement as part of the deal.
The sister is a fucking joke "you should not do what you want, you should do what a woman wants because doing what you want will not make my friend happy".
Just to be clear: male agency, men's right to choose what they do with their time and money, is being labelled as toxic masculinity and stigmatised!
He's totally free to turn down the woman's offer of going as a friend because he is seeking a relationship.
"Hey, I'm willing to spend money on you in order to get to know you and start a romantic relationship with you."
"Well I don't want a romantic relationship with you, but can you still spend your money on me?"
"Why should I?"
"Well, because I'm a woman and I want it."
This comment sums it up pretty well:
Imagine if he caved and took the first girl just because "woman" and the second girl justifiably lost interest. She could be his future wife and mother of his children. But these women expect him to pass on that and spend his time and money on the first girl just because it makes her happy, even if there is nothing in it for him.
I really wouldn't mind modern feminism so much if it wasn't a case of "we are oppressed so we need more than men, but we also need you to still buy us shit and take us out because it's the gentlemanly thing to do".
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism was / is never about "equality". It really is about women having their (beef)cakes and eat them too.
[–]playitagainzak_ 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair, the girl herself doesn't seem to care or be losing sleep over whether he takes her or not (at least not from what he mentioned) - just the sister and the reddit NPCs.
[–]jestersquall 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine being such a fag that you describe anything in terms like “toxic masculinity.”
[–]Maui_Boy 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
JFC the cuckoldry over at AITA. Had to scroll down to find NTA.
[–]TruthGetsBanned 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sanctified copulating FECES! Those comments are more toxic than uranium and the man-hater "reasoning" is just NASTY.
Just imagine if the genders were reversed! Gee I just WONDER where all those good men went, huh?
[–]usa_foot_print 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol the topic comment is toxic feminism. She is going to end up with cats and the clap
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Reverse rolls repost.
[–]MetaCognitio 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/bzb29o/aita_for_publicly_calling_out_my_ex_for_not/
[–]ManateeGagJr. Hamster Analyst 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If she wants to go so bad, she should offer to pay for the ticket or at least offer to buy the drinks at the concert.
[–]mollyxmoon 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The comments on that post are insane.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Jesus, those people are stupid. He asked her out on a DATE. She rejected the date part but still wanted to go as friends. He didn't want that.
If he doesn't get the date he wants, why should she get the concert she wants? Since when does she get to set the conditions? Why must he go with someone who doesn't desire him? She isn't entitled to shit.
Are these people that ignorant of how she's tried manipulating him? Flip the genders and I guarantee they'd be defending her choice not to go with the guy who rejected her advances.
[–]MetaCognitio 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If she was a friend, she would say, "I love this band, if it is okay, I am gonna buy my own ticket and tag along or if you want some space or are going on a date, let's hang out another time".
The entitlement of this generation is astounding. Even if he did want to hook up, at least he was honest. He is honest with the girl... niceguy, if he were not honest with the girl.... niceguy.
[–]tharkyllinus 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why does a man have to agree to be used? Can he not persue a better deal?
[–]ConnorGracie 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
25 rewards for the leg beard answer. Your not entitled to concert tickets females.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I had a few posts on that thread. My two things about it are,
He asked a girl on a romantic date, she said no, then asked another girl instead and he's an asshole. That's not how it works...
Dating is a transactional agreement. Guy spends time, effort, and money for a woman's time, affection, companionship, or sex. This makes me an asshole.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's gotten to the point where I'm absolutely amazed that there are still guys out there trying to associate with women in any context, dating or otherwise. I know every guy has a different headspace and a different world experience, and some guys have never heard of the redpill/blackpill, but come on. How many nightmarish run-ins do you have to have and how much bobs and vageen worship do you have to see before you check out?
[–]SuperVeryDumbPerson 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That sub is cringe material tbh, people act like they know everything about the world when in reality they never left the basement
[–]alex_b985 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
That sub is hypocritical as fuck. Had it been a girl who invited another guy, because the first refused her, well, you go, girl, be a strong independent woman. Guys there get shamed to no end by women who write their answers in the most entitled and condescending way possible, and the others just throw gold and silver at them. When a girl is called TA, they usually very nicely explain it to her.
[–]MetaCognitio 7 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/bzb29o/aita_for_publicly_calling_out_my_ex_for_not/
This woman did even worse after giving him the tickets but he is the asshole still.
[–]alex_b98 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude, the bias is real
[–]MetaCognitio 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Even if the guy said, "I wanna go to the concert and then bang like the world is gonna end", it would be rude but perfectly fine. She could say yes or no and he could look for someone that is willing if needs be.
[–]alex_b98 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They want special treatment, not equality. People need to stop wasting their time
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The correct "male feminist" action in this situation is to give the girl BOTH of your tickets, so she can take the bad-boy asshole as her date, and then drive them to the concert in your own car, and then pay for them to have a hotel afterward, while you wait in the lobby for The Bad Boy to finish fucking her. Afterward, you're supposed to drive The Bad Boy home and then let the girl cry on your shoulder.
That's the MALE FEMINIST, non-toxic-masculinity play here. Get to it, boys!
[–]Cristoff13Sr. Hamster Analyst 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He shouldn't be asking a coworker out on a date. That's just a bad idea, on principle. But I suppose it had one benefit of pissing off the first, entitled, woman.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
guy was looking for a date, girl refused but still wanted to go to the concert as friends, guy had another girl who was interested in him so decided to take her instead because he was also some what interested in her, the guy gets what he wants, he uses his tickets in the person he wants to hang out with, win for him, having it spent in the first girl, to be fair, it might have been okay because she might have been a good friend after all, but at the end of the day it was the guys choice, he wanted a date, at that night he wasn’t looking for friends, he wanted only a goddam date and got it
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The top comment is pure radioactive cancer.
[–]TheImpossible1 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
12k upvotes.
Shills or hivemind?
Also, did you hear about Reddit's updated spam filters? A Voice for Men is now marked as spam by default. Mods are slowly sliding men's rights into the area of being quarantined.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
/r/avoiceformen/
31 readers
Uhh... I'm all for discussing conspiracies, but 31 subscribers does not make a sub.
[–]TheImpossible1 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No, the website, not that random sub. Probably should have clarified.
Paul Elam's "We can get women to help" limp dicked MRA thing. It's one of the biggest MRA resources for some reason.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
For the love of god I hope he doesn’t take their advice Jesus Christ
[–]IntellectualCaveman 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Obviously to inflate their own perception of value, a lot of women (those who can, a majority for sure in my opinion) keep as many they consider "BETA Orbiters" around. The more you have, the more you can feel confident as a womyn that you are high value and will land that chad thundercock with a ferrari that ejaculates chocolate and has a sixpack.
[–]Dawknight 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
At least the other top comments are sane...
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why you shouldn’t care if you’re an asshole. Be a decent human but look out for yourself.
[–]teelolws 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is the only part I don't agree with. Don't shit where you eat.
[–]MetaCognitio 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not an asshole but definitely a little stupid.
[–]Czarooo 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how the top comment changed from "YTA, toxic masculinity, bla bla bla" to mgtow responses
[–]MetaCognitio 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Here is a thread with the genders reversed. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/bzb29o/aita_for_publicly_calling_out_my_ex_for_not/
Thing is she gave him the tickets for his birthday, but changed her mind when they broke up.... He's the asshole for wanting his birthday present.
The entitlement is ridiculous.
[–]Fyodor007 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"She doesn't owe you anything"
"You still owe her concert trickets because she likes the band"
No.
[–]smallSackBigShaft 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They banned me
[–]FactCheckOnTheFlySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
DO NOT BE A TIME HO.
[–]misery_index 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What I find interesting is how it’s acceptable for a woman to demand men take her out, pay for her food and entertainment, and cater to her without any expectations but if a man has any wants sex in return, he’s an asshole. I have had many women tell me that they will not date a man that doesn’t pay for their food and entertainment on dates. I ask what they would say if a man wouldn’t date a woman that doesn’t put out on the first date and they always are appalled by the idea.
Women do not think men are valuable enough to deserve their time. Men have to supplement their worth with actual money before women will consider spending their time with him.
[–]theDukesofSwagger 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The fact that he has to run to the internet to find out what he should do. So sad.
[–]EmervilaSpinning Dis On The Fritz 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NO. He took the decision but we all live in an ocean of NPC's even his sister is calling him douchy, makes sense for him to think about it after all we are in clown world but it's hard when clown world is inside your house or family
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure why he posted in that sub. He pushed back pretty hard against the NPC commenters calling him a toxic male. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up getting banned for not bowing down to them. He seems like he knows what he’s doing, so maybe he was just trolling them.
[–]Heypunk11 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I would love to see some of there responses
[–]ono_licious 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you asked her out...she accepted but then “clarified “ that’s its friend one...then you clarify that’s not the intention and do what you want. If that’s breaking the date and giving away the ticket...it’s your choice.
[–]CarlCarlton 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, personally, I would have told the first girl I'm cancelling her soon after the co-worker said yes, because I don't like leaving people in the dark; however,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcaNY5eBWw&t=24s
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can already tell that the original thread is gonna be rectal cancer.
[–]VikkBlack 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Such a toxic man! He offered concert tickets and a hotel room for a girl that was not ready to date (the original purpose of the meetup), but hey! They can be PLATONIC FRIENDS! And instead he took a girl who immediately said yes because she wants to date him and willing to go even tho she doesn’t know the band well? Wow dude, way to be a misogynyst. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
(/s)
[–]frikabgJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can notice how the issue here is that the girl said NO to the offer. All these fucking manginas and women who are defending my lady's honor were not going to have ANY problems with this if she simply said ''yes i will come with you'' would they? But it is a problem since he turned her parasitic ass down.
[–]MetaCognitio 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how people are giving him a hard time for saying "he'll think about it" and not directly saying no. She said she is not ready for a relationship ... right now. So maybe she would be later?
Women blow guys of ambiguously all the time, "I'm busy", "call me before the date to confirm", "I'm just not ready right now"... When a guy does it... he is a bad person.
[–]undefeatedsynergy 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He asked her out on a date, and she said no. He is free to ask anyone else he wants.
Problem is, she still wants to go to the concert, just not as a date. She wants the boyfriend treatment from this guy, without her being his girlfriend. She wants all the benefits of having a boyfriend without having a boyfriend.
Bitch needs to get real.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So what was he supposed to do serenade the girl till she jumps into his arms. Fucking morons .
[–]P4LK0 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
OP's friend is salty because he used his brains and she didn't got what she wanted.
Yes, one might argue that he took advantage of his own situation and did it in a way that benefited him. Women do it all the time so I don't really see what the big deal is. In my opinion OP is not the asshole, she is.
[–]cenaluc 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Your ticket , your choice.
[–]KavaNotGuiltyProne to be argumentative 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought all Reddit posts had to be a screenshot.
[–]SelectAirline 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How dare he spend his evening with someone that actually wants to spend time with him rather than someone that was just using him for personal gain!
[–]SelectAirline 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just read as many of the comments as I could stomach, and damn that sub is one big collection of entitled women and white knight enablers.
[–]basedmillennial95 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
ARE YOU INSANE!!! Did you just sleep through #metoo??????
[–]SamsAdvice 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She immediately said yes and seemed quite excited about it although she admitted that she never listened to any of their songs. - If she is attracted to you, it rarely ever matters where you take her, she is going because of you not the place or event.
If the place you go really matters to her, she isn't going for you, she is using you to go to the place/event.
[–]olinvomibo123 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
For me the worst thing about that that top toxic masculinity comment is all those awards given to it.
I mean, seriously??
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think what people here are forgetting is that those are his tickets! He wanted a date, she said no, he said he would think about it. As it is his right to decide. He was looking for a date, plain and simple. If you look at what she said, she meant "I don't want to date you." to any man that's an insult and he's expected to take her? Hell no!
[–]thatguyhanzel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's basically like having enough money to go on an expensive date with someone, get rejected and then choose to go with someone else
[–]Scruffy_Buddha -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
He was offering tickets with strings attached. I think that gets at the heart of this matter.
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (5 children) | Copy Link
The post isn't about the girl, it is about the comments that attempt to shame the man for spending his time and money on something that is valuable to him. Read the title and top post of the thread here.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Ohh you are one of those that forgot we have an entire sidebar's worth of material about the sub. Well, I think we have maybe a couple hundred characters we could fit in there. Maybe I should state something obvious with those extra characters?! I'll even let you approve it.
I'm thinking something along the lines of:
Mods get to post whatever the fuck they want because they create the theme. If you don't like their posts, then you just don't like their theme.
or maybe I just spell it all out for people like you??
Posts will be made that help men see the true nature of women and what to look out for in a eligible woman for dating and marriage. If a mod posts a thread that references this goal, then it will be safe to assume it fits the theme.
If you approve the last one, I might have to take some words out, so I'm hoping even after my edits, you will still be able to understand exactly the nature of the sub and what is "supposed to fit the theme and value the sub brings"
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I....I...I just don't have the time and patience to help you today. Normally, I think I would, but really I have too much going on today and too many people that rely on me to go around in circles with you. I hope you find what you are looking for, but next time you break the rules (Rule 3), then you will be banned. Thanks for understanding.