UPDATE:
I was not expecting to post an update so soon, but I was hit with a bombshell this afternoon.
Over the weekend, both of our parents had tried to come talk to me. However I had simply ignored the knocks on the door and eventually they left. However of course they know that I can't avoid work. So they wait outside my house this afternoon to ambush me as I get home from work. With them is my girlfriend. They insist I talk to my girlfriend and I eventually relent and our parents leave.
Once inside, she starts apologising and begging for forgiveness. Saying that our relationship is the best thing that ever happened to her, she will never forgive herself.... Basically everything that you'd expect a cheater to say.
...And then she gives the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard. She says that a few weeks ago she found out she was pregnant, she started having conflicted feelings on if she was ready to settle down and start a family, and so she reached out to her ex for support. This emotional support quickly turned physical
This makes NO sense. We have ALWAYS talked about having kids excitedly.
She takes out two pregnancy tests showing positive results. She also takes out an unused one and says she can take it now if I don't believe her. So she takes it, and sure enough she's pregnant. She says it's 100% mine as she didn't cheat on me until after she got pregnant. I ask to see her phone. She reluctantly hands it over and, sure enough, she's been texting him non-stop since I threw her out.
I tell her I need time to process this and ask her to wait outside. Once outside I lock the doors, unblock her on WhatsApp, and send her a long text. I'm reciting this by memory so I don't have to open WhatsApp and see her reply.
Whether you end up having this baby is entirely up to you. But you should know the following. First, if the child is mine, I will be a good father and take care of it, but you will never be anything more than the mother of my child. We will never get back together. The moment you cheated on me, our relationship was over for good. Secondly, I will not interact with you at all until the child is born. Don't reach out to me until then, I want nothing to do with you. Finally, I will not have ANY role in the kid's life - nor will I sign any birth certificate - until I get a paternity test. This child could have been the greatest blessing to our relationship and future, instead you turned them into an excuse to cheat. I will never forgive you for that.
I have not read her reply, and don't intend to tonight. I also won't post any updates after this. I get the impression that the kid is probably mine, so I'm basically anchoured to her for the rest of my life now.
Original Post
With regards to the meta post: I know I'm not an asshole for leaving her. I'm more concerned with the way I went about it.
My gf and I have been together for 7+ years, have long talked about marriage, and talked even more about future kids. She quit her job a couple of years back to pursue a medical degree.
Last week I discovered she had cheated on me with an ex-BF from high-school. I needed to use her phone to call mine, and went I unlocked her phone it was open on a WhatsApp conversation between them. I have nothing against the guy personally, but he's going no where in life and I don't understand why she'd want to be with him.
Anyway, rather than sadness/heartbreak this actually just made angry. Angry that I've put so much into this relationship and woman that I thought would be the mother of my future children. Angry that I've been supporting her through college including rent/food/tuition. Just angry.
So I arrange a locksmith to change the locks the next day (edit: with landlord's permission) while she's at class, pack up as much of her stuff as I can find, and leave it outside. Text her of what I've done, and say if she wants to get anything else I've missed to have her brother come and get it - I don't want to see or speak to her ever again.
Anyway, since I did this both my parents and hers have been relentlessly calling me. They say that what she did is wrong - but it's no reason to throw away 7+ years - and that if I kick her out she will be forced to drop out and waste years of education.
What do you guys think? Am I the asshole here? Should I swallow my pride and approach this differently?
Edit2: The lease is also only in my name and she's never paid a dime of rent in the entire time she's been living here.
[–]houseoftolstoyHeavy Marauder of Truth Bombs124 points125 points126 points (6 children) | Copy Link
No self awareness from any of the parents there at all. He did not throw away 7 years of a relationship, she did. He is just reciprocating the treatment she gave him. And she threw away her years of education by cheating, since she demonstrated that she had no appreciation for his love and support (all that education apparently did not teach her to act intelligently either, another demonstration of "education" =/= intelligence).
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG54 points55 points56 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Tough shit. Bitch shoulda thought of that before she cheated.
[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine35 points36 points37 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"B-but tingles!"
[–]metalsympathizer46 points47 points48 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh her parents are fully self aware. They just want him to support her. One of his comments
"Both her parents are very poor so they can’t support her. As for student loan, she already has quite a lot of debt from an ongoing health problem, so I don’t think that’s a viable route. I have also been helping to pay down her healthcare debt prior to this..."
They're a poor trash family, so without him shes fucked and shes gonna sink her parents too
[–]Blackfysh8825 points26 points27 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They should have raised her better then. shrug That guy isn’t responsible for their failure or their daughters failure as a decent human being.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
An ungrateful cheater mooch with health problems. What a catch!
[–]Blackfysh8818 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s not,even reciprocating. He’s doing the right and proper thing removing her from his life before she puts him in a shitty place.
[–]vampyreorlokk88 points89 points90 points (5 children) | Copy Link
No she is a dumb bitch . Not only is cheating bad but she is stupid enough to do it to a guy who pays her bills or lives with him.
D U M B
[–]afkb39sdfbHas an eye for Cherry Pie31 points32 points33 points (4 children) | Copy Link
As soon as she finishes her degree she'll dump him almost immediately.
She's just using the guy for his money, no rent, paying her bills, etc to keep her school/loan costs down.
[–]010100000100000121 points22 points23 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This hit too close to home.
[–]TheGuyAboveMeEatsPoo15 points16 points17 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I've seen women scheme for years in a marriage/relationship to set themselves up to leave a dude. All the while using their finances to secure them a home or otherwise bilk them in the divorce.
This chick was going to graduate, get financially independent, and then start hob knobbing with other rich women and suddenly she'll have outgrown her 7+ year bf.
Then her 30's will hit and she's right swiping every dude who marginally has his shit together.
[–]funkyjunkymonkey0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, this happened to me. Someday I'll create a throwaway account and write up the whole horrific story.
[–]ugluk150 points51 points52 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She wasted your time, which is the most valuable thing we posses. It's too late to do anything about it now, anyway. Hope this will be a valuable lesson to her. AFBB, remember?
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey45 points46 points47 points (19 children) | Copy Link
Just a warning to not cohabitate with women. Once they get comfortable with your care they can legally hold you accountable to them. In this case, the man's feelings and sentiment were spot on, but the way he went about 'unentangling' himself from her was reckless. If she had called the police on him the moment her stuff was outside, they most likely would have prosecuted him for wrongful eviction.
The best way to go about something like this is file an eviction notice to vacate, explain to the landlord that a person is living on his property who is not legally bound to his leasing requirements, and that you wish to remain a tennent with him without the other person and to not have them on your lease agreement.
If things get ugly it's time to lawyer up and put up with the expenses. Otherwise she could sue and make it much more expensive. It seems in this situation his ex could go to her family to stay and they may be not seek legal repremations. But it's a gamble, so best to be safe IMO.
[–]SirKolbathYeah, yeah. “Mods are incels.”34 points35 points36 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Furthermore, if you find evidence of infidelity, make sure you copy it. Whether it’s a video of your wife/girlfriend with another man’s cock in her mouth or saucy text messages or what have you, you’re going to need that in order to separate from her with a minimum of moo and a maximum of milk.
[–]Newbosterone11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
In my state, the Notice of Eviction can give a grace period of as little as three days, although magistrates look a little more kindly on 14 or more. Those magistrates will try to negotiate a longer period, but they’ll also warn the tenants they’re legally responsible for the property until they hand the keys over, subject to criminal and civil penalties if they wreck the place.
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, some states it is 31 days and others there is no defined grace period, but that doesn't mean one can't be forced depending on the circumstances.
The best thing you can do is get her to accept it's over and you want her out of your like ASAP. Don't back down and make sure she knows there is no coming back. If she can leave because she cannot see any further benefit to staying with you, then that is much better than having to take action. But that entirely depends on her demeanor and how well he treated her and how well she respects him, which if she is finding other branches is not very much.
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck7 points8 points9 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Depends entirely on the jurisdiction. In Ontario, in this specific set of circumstances it's 100% legal. I did it to someone myself once when they refused to move out of my apartment.
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey4 points5 points6 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Interesting. Because they were cheating on you?
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck6 points7 points8 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Nope, just a roommate that didn't want to leave.
If you've got someone living in your house/apartment (SO, roommate, couchsurfer, whatever) and their name isn't on the lease/mortgage, then the law considers them to be a house guest that can be removed at any time you like. There's a specific exemption for this in the Residential Tenancies Act.
Edit: Typos
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey2 points3 points4 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, but that implies they don't have residency. Once they establish themselves and can prove that then you are on the hook for that liability. In this case, the man had access to her body, she had access to his bathroom, belongings, mailing address, and other decisions that she made with the expectation of having a living quarters.
So I wouldn't go around saying that "it doesn't work this way in Ontario", because I think overall Canada is very liberal and feminine and their possessions and some provinces consider a cohabitating woman to be a legally binding arrangement.
cc: u/loneliness-inc did I say it better this time with " possession"
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You'd think so.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Want to bet she whined and bitched and turned him down more than she put out? He has access when SHE decided he had worked enough days and weeks for mommy to give him her body for 5 minutes.I
Even though I am married, MGTOW and renting by the hour makes a lot more sense.
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Too much trouble to rent even. I'd rather just avoid them all together. MGTOW monk FTW
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Better than when? I don't remember what you're referring to and I certainly don't know what the laws are in Canadian provinces. I'm just some guy on the internet 😉
[–]funkyjunkymonkey0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you're missing the bigger picture. All she had to do was punch herself in the face hard enough to leave a bruise, and this guy's life would have been destroyed. DO NOT COHABITATE WITH WOMEN
[–]I-am-the-lulAll Ass No Stick5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They are the reasons why "No marriage and no cohabitation" are the cornerstones of any MGTOW lifestyle.
[–]ugluk11 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
I think the best thing to do is just to go elsewhere, let the gf pay the bills, if she wants to stay. No legal entanglements there.
[–]where_muh_good_mensSheriff Goodmonkey10 points11 points12 points (3 children) | Copy Link
He still has a lease and will have to forfeit any penalties for breaking it or paying it off in full for her to stay. If he can avoid having sex with her and the lease has come up for renewal than that would be a good alternative.
[–]ugluk12 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Paying a penalty is, in many ways, a lesser hassle than facing legal trouble, where you may need to pay for an attorney, take time to appear in court, ... You may even get arrested and obtain a police record that way, that employers can look up.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. The thing to keep in mind is that if there is a domestic legal dispute between a man and a woman, the authorities are very biased in favor of the woman. She has all kinds of options at her disposal to make life very difficult for the man.
That's why if you discovery your wife/girlfriend is cheating, it's vital to play it cool. You need to save the evidence and don't say a thing until you've carefully planned out your exit strategy.
[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And for fuck's sake don't try to do anything stupid like "get closure".
Closure is for women, not men.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
To an extent I agree. In most jurisdictions she can cause him a world of trouble if he just kicks her out.
That said, there is something better to do: If you find out that she cheated, you save the evidence, but you don't say a freaking word. Instead, you pretend everything is fine and take a couple months to find a plausible way to get her out, for example have her lease a new apartment near her medical school. Once she's out and you've been apart for a week or two, then you "discover" her infidelity and dump her. A nice clean break and it will be much harder for her to make legal problems for you.
The thing to keep in mind is that (1) women inevitably freak out if they think they're losing their sugar daddy; and (2) women never ever blame themselves for a relationship ending. If a woman is financially dependent on you, there is a lot of risk in cutting her loose and you need to be very careful about it.
[–]1Badshot21 points22 points23 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A bunch of assclowns call OP an asshole for not "talking to her first" and "didn't give her a chance to explain".
Did she talk to him first before she fucked her ex? Did she explain why she need to fuck a strange dick even though they had been together in a committed relationship for 7 years?
Some people are so base and without integrity it's a wonder how they have the nerve to give advice.
[–]SelectAirline19 points20 points21 points (14 children) | Copy Link
Way too many ESH responses on the original thread. He did nothing wrong morally, and since this wasn't in the US he may also be in the clear legally.
The guy didn't realize it, but he was just a stepping stone to a better provider anyway. His job was to get her through medical school, at which point he was to be discarded so she could chase after doctors.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst15 points16 points17 points (11 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, he is fortunate that he got out when he did. The sad truth is that it's dangerous for a man to help his wife or girlfriend's career. The increase in her status and earnings will inevitably diminish his appeal to her. And she is likely to come into contact with more desirable men. Maybe he can get away with it if he is already a successful surgeon and the chief of staff at the local hospital. Or better yet, knock her up immediately.
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin7 points8 points9 points (8 children) | Copy Link
This is exactly what ended my marriage. Two days after I helped my wife secure the future we had been struggling for years to achieve by helping her break into her career path 3 years early she cheated on me with her high school boyfriend and threw away my marriage. On the very eve of all of our dreams coming true.
This bitch literally had the gall to look me in the eye and tell me "that she wasn't getting anything from this relationship". She got fucking everything that she ever wanted!
Five and a half years together, a lifestyle I had spent nearly a decade building, and my dreams to ever have children were all ripped from me in an instant on a selfish whim from the woman I did nothing but devote myself to in every possible way.
I do want to be married again. I want to be a husband. Even Rollo Tomassi has said that marriage for the purpose of making and raising children is completely acceptable living in a Red Pilled paradigm in the RMG Ep. #57. But the next one will be signing a very strict pre-nup that will continue to be updated every 5 years for the rest of our lives that will make sure she gets nothing if she cheats on me or even so much as asks to open up the relationship, and that she can never have access to any assets I entered into the relationship with. This is going to be 100% non-negotiable. And if it turns out that the damage to my fertility my wife caused wasn't completely permanent I want those kids. But any children my future spouse and I have together will undergo a legally binding fertility test showing that I am the father before I sign anything. And woe to her if that kid isn't mine.
In the mean time I'm working on myself and preparing to start spinning plates and NEXTing them at the slightest provocation within a few more months. I'm 36 and my experiences dating and being intimate with American women have all been overwhelmingly negative and set me back decades. So I'm working on the assumption that they are no longer worth getting the best from me. I might be friends and spend time with American women. I might play with and do BDSM scenes with American women. I might even fuck American women if I decide I want to. But I will not marry an American woman again. I did that once before and I pride myself on being a man who never makes the same mistake twice.
The next one's coming from a place that still teaches their women to respect men. And whose smart enough to do what she's told. I'm not looking for an equal anymore. I've learned that lesson.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I am sorry to hear about your situation. I think that woman in general don't have much capacity for gratitude or a sense of obligation. So a man can't do nice things for the woman and expect that the relationship will stay healthy due to her feeling grateful.
Instead, he must arrange things so that on a going forward basis, she is better off staying in the relationship than leaving.
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
That's exactly what I intend to do going forward.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I suggest you move to THailand or the Philippines then cuz it is not possible to protect yourself in Murica unless she makes more $$.
[–]imstoicsoeffyoumate 1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Marriage should be one and done. Don’t ruin yourself by signing in the dotted line again for the state.
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not doing it for the state. I'm doing it for myself.
[–]Starcruiser280 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS. If you do it, only once to have a family, insist on a paternity test to verify lineage, then if it goes south do not try again as it will most likely head in the same direction. Make sure you maintain separate bank accounts and she is working, no more stay at home mommies in this day and age. Make sure you keep any assets from prior to the marriage secure, a trust perhaps, check with an lawyer.
[–]Mbrol67 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
prenups are thrown out by judges all the time.
just save up and get a surrogate and nannie/stay around your family.
women can screw you and will. either go expat and never bring them to us, because if you do they will screw you
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm aware. But weak protection is better than no protection.
Due to the nature of a very complex heart and lung condition I have I can't really survive in some third world country with poor medical care long term. I need to live in the western world somewhere. Otherwise I would.
I am aware that it's riskier bringing her back to my country but I don't see what other option I have. Because continuing trying to have a good relationship with an American woman is clearly not going to happen.
[–]imstoicsoeffyoumate 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
This happened to one of my roommates. Married a hottie 10 years younger than him. He paid for her schooling and bills. Had 2 kids. Then divorce raped him. He’s now a drunkard, does coke all the time, can barely get to see his kids, and has to see the new dude fucking her every time she drops off the kids. Really a sad existence.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I have heard a lot of stories like this. I think that if you want to have a stable relationship with a woman, you need to be a bit Machiavellian about it. It's great if she loves you for the nice things you do for her, but she should also have some dread for the negative consequences if she ends the relationship.
[–]GoyInTheStripedPJs8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You can always tell when the person commenting on those posts is a woman who likely has cheated themselves and been dumped for it. There’s a distinctive vibe to their comments that makes me laugh every time. Imagine another scenario where someone could say “the victim played a role in what happened” and get upvotes instead of being shouted down for victim blaming? It’s hilarious.
I’ve cheated in a relationship before and I was absolutely an asshole for doing it. I never attempted to justify it in my own mind, even though the person I was with at the time had become ridiculously toxic. I should’ve broken up with her first, there was no use trying to excuse what I did. I realized that type of action doesn’t align with my moral values so I decided to end the relationship and never do something like that again. Even still, I absolutely don’t buy the notion that cheating is “just one mistake :(~~~” in the vast majority of cases. Yet so many comments in that thread imply that he acted rashly and should have been more understanding. That’s complete bullshit, once it happens the chance of a successful monogamous relationship is dead in the water. Either the relationship will die because the cheater lacks empathy and is a narcissist, or it will die from the insecurity cheating generates, or even from whatever problems existed before the cheating. I certainly wouldn’t have cheated if my relationship was good, but that has absolutely no bearing on the moral value of the act.
[–]KoloGuptaSr. Hamster Analyst20 points21 points22 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Hell no you're not an asshole. You handled everything superbly!
Her parents are trying to convince you not to "throw away seven years" so they can hopefully keep you shouldering the burden they know their daughter is. She's going to move that useless dude in with them, after she moves back in with her parents.
Not putting her things on the sidewalk was rather kind of you. I can't say I wouldn't have left everything at the street intersection, had I been in your shoes.
Let this be a lesson. AWALT. Don't invest your time and money supporting a woman. Not in this day and age. It could have been worse. You two could have been married; in this case, she would have fucked around on you, taken your house, you kids, half of your assets, PLUS child support and alimony.
[–]devok11 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I never put money on depreciating assets.
[–]KoloGuptaSr. Hamster Analyst0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good man.
[–]PonderingKatSr. Hamster Analyst14 points15 points16 points (2 children) | Copy Link
ILLEGAL EVICTION! if in USA!
In most US states, without a judge's order, after 90 days if a person has proof they have been living there, you need to give them 2 weeks minimum to vacate an apartment or home.
California for example, as well as any other state you can think of.
Some laws stipulate "dependent" person, or a person making less, so that men can always be kicked out by females, or the cops strongarm the man and tell the woman to get a "restraining order" of short duration rubber stamped, and the police lock up the man for a night to establish cause for the poor helpless evil woman (typically the main tenant/ owner).
Its a PENAL CODE violation to do what he did, not a CIVIL code issue, and though he can be sued, he can also be arrested.
Its problematic to get rid of cheating leech girlfriends. Most men give them a check for 2,000 dollars to buy them out of their life. Some used to use 1,000 dollar checks.
[–]1Badshot15 points16 points17 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Legally, this is good advice.
Morally, I agree with what the man did. If she wants to tell all of their friends and family she is lowlife, lying whore, then she can bring a suit for the wrongful eviction.
She wants to maintain the illusion she is a good person, so she will shut her whore mouth and move on to another victim to leach off of.
[–]devok10 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Can I legally make her life a living hell for the 2 weeks im forced to live with her?
-have her sleep in a closet -Lot of noise , especially at night -random incidents involving pee on her school stuff.
Who knows what else can happen?
[–]FlyingSexistPig10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"That's no reason to throw away 7+ years"
Yes. Yes it is.
There's nothing for the relationship to rest on. It's clear to me, on reading this, that she's going to get her medical degree and as soon as she does, she's going to drop advicethrowawayinny in a heartbeat. They had a good relationship. Sure. But it's over.
Be happy you don't have to give her your house and half of every dime you've made or ever will make.
[–]AliBarakatJr. Hamster Analyst9 points10 points11 points (5 children) | Copy Link
His mistake: fund a womans education, and cohabitate with her.
If you want kids, the last thing you should do is be putting a woman through a feminist indoctrination camp. If you want kids, just have 5 kids.
[–]beatles-loverJr. Hamster Analyst6 points7 points8 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. The only reason to get married is to have children. And if that's what you want, you push for children immediately. Because once she's a mom, she's much less attractive to other men and the kids will keep her busy.
[–]AliBarakatJr. Hamster Analyst3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Also, just find a wife in an Asian or other country. Where divorce rape laws don't exist, and control your women. Don't let her go out all by herself to the mall or at night or go to school all day.
I don't even understand this thinking of "I want kids, but I'm going to waste all this money and time to get my girlfriend through college, so that then she can stay at home and be pregnant after." It makes no sense.
All I can think of, is that the woman wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants to have "her fun" at college, then have some guy to support her and have kids with, after she fucks a bunch of dudes in college. Most times, the kids aren't even his.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
A friend had an arrangement with his wife. He'd let her quit her job and go back to school(this involved lots of overtime at work). Then she'd go back to work and he'd return to school. She landed a really good job and he got divorce papers served during his second semester back. She honestly believes that she was being victimized by a lazy mooching husband because they tend to analyze their mates in terms of what he's doing for them this very instant. Anything you've done for them in the past counts for nothing.
[–]AliBarakatJr. Hamster Analyst2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's right.
There is 0 reason why anyone should give money for a girl to go to school, especially a boyfriend or husband.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
-Arthur Schopenhauer, red pill forefather
[–]LordSithaniel7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice man, thanks for the post.
Kinda lightened up a day. Love how you threw her out just like that. Dont doubt anything you did well because you are not a cuck.
If your parents try to confince you otherwise abandon them.
[–]chubsta2k177 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You know what - you are a 'man'. You dealt with this very well, it must have taken an awful amount of strength to do what you did, and continue to do under pressure from others.
Well done, as someone else said, her parents are running scared that their waste of a daughter has shown herself to be an untrustworthy slut and she is likely to now be their responsibility again.
She didn't give a shit about your feelings, or what she was throwing away, and if you gave into her or made the breakup easy to spare her precious feelings she would just see you as being weak.
[–]TANQsprayJr. Hamster Analyst5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s a guy with his shit together. She’s a typical human who thinks they can just use people as much as they like but he obviously has balls and gets rid of her as soon as he sees she’s a problem.
As for the kicking her out problem, who cares. Cop a fine if she pushes it. Point is she’s gone and he will save a lot of money from that so f—k it if he gets a fine. She has to find somewhere to live and get through all that, by the time she has time to go after him for unfair eviction (which she won’t as she has no money) it would have been too long.
As I said typical person who doesn’t appreciate what they have. Male or female. In this case a useless female.
[–]lurkerhasarisen 1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I saw that earlier today but I don't know how to cross post here. Maybe I'll figure it out at some point.
The guy handled himself extremely well. There is absolutely no justification for him feeling obligated to continue funding her for even one more second. It doesn't matter why she cheated. It doesn't matter how long they've been together. It doesn't matter how entangled their lives and families are. It doesn't matter that she will not finish her education. It doesn't matter if she has to spend the rest of her life selling lap dances to hobos under bridge overpasses to pay off the loans for the schooling she never finishes.
The only thing that matters is that she cheated.
[–]OptimalAdhesiveness1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah once she cheats all those problems that were ‘theirs’ are now solely hers again. Who gives a fuck if she can’t afford stuff - to this guy she’s just another random person out of 7 billion again.
[–]Starcruiser281 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So Much this, people fail to realize others are not responsible for anothers predicament, if they do it to themselves so be it.
[–]notyourdude2013 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can pretty much tell his girlfriend does not love him. She is using him simply to leech off to. He is a beta bux.
Women cheat to their beta bux boyfriends / husbands all the time. The longer the relationship lasts, the more she will or have been cheating.
[–]harharry2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is called the female frame. It’s not about each holding each other to standards, but instead it’s she holding him to higher standards than vice versa, one he unconsciously agrees to by feeling bad even when she did something horrid and he cut her off.
Many men would do much better if they had less sympathy for women in general. These men are just suckers waiting to get exploited and thrown away; life is too short to put up with garbage treatment like that.
[–]0kool74Twisted up from Ditsy Dames1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I like what the guy did, and personally would love to buy him a beer. The REAL schadenfreude in this would have been if she didn't have anywhere to go. However, this is a MAJOR no no in the US. Whether she had been paying rent or not, she is a de facto tenant and there's laws regarding evicting someone. It's a strong possibility that while she may be too stupid to keep her legs closed, she might just be smart enough to bring the law into the situation. Also, since a lot of states have common law marriage doctrine, there's also a question of whether or not they fall under that umbrella. It was a beautiful knee-jerk reaction, but it was also just that......a knee-jerk reaction. I'd be curious to see what comes of this mess in the future.
[–]Good_Old_FriendSr. Neckbeardo Nellyphile1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I like what he did but was also wondering if he could run into legal trouble because he put her right out.
I bet she spun this to the parents that he has neglected me. I ran into the ex and slipped, "just this one time. It won't happen again." Until it does.
She wanted to be with the ex because he has the alpha qualities that she desires. Mr. Beta Bux is not supplying her with sufficient tingles.
I wonder how long it will take him to climb back on his horse and assume the white knight role again. Let's hope he has learned.
[–]Starcruiser280 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How much you wanna bet she was with him prior? Odds are pretty good the child is most likely his and not her Ex BF's (now)
[–]Sid_Insidious1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No. You are not an asshole. But there is still hope - you can become one. Next time, don't move her into your place at ALL. You can still take her to IKEA and see what kind of furniture she likes... THIS will really get her hamster wheel flying! (Furniture you know you will never be buying and moving into your home.) When she starts talking about the "next level" of the relationship (moving in) tell her the fact she is so fiercely "strong and independent" is what makes you so hot for her and you would never expect her to sacrifice her hard-earned independence for little old you. (Throw her feminism back in her face). You're a nice guy - and it ended with no divorce, no kids, no alimony, no child support and no destruction of you. Next time you might not be so lucky.
[–]LibertyBaron1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Now she is pregnant. It seems bitches like her ALWAYS win in this situations.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
" but he's going no where in life and I don't understand why she'd want to be with him. "
It's simple: Alpha Fux Beta Bux.
[–]devok10 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Im glad he has balls and kicked her out of his life at the moment he found out.
[–]Medusssssa1Check out muh low N-Count0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I Would Ghost The Parents Too. The Hell! She Threw It Away First. Idiots