What I’m saying is that, if tomorrow all women came out and said “yes we only want to date 6’5” men with broad shoulders and beautiful faces and we’re willing to make endless excuses for how they treat us”, and this became common knowledge for the rest of time — I would not expect the reaction from TRP to be one of acceptance and quiet resignation.
Exhibit A is all of the “entitled” women on dating apps, with long laundry lists of requirements and strict six-feet height cutoffs, all stated explicitly right there in their profiles. No matter how hot these girls are (i.e. no matter how much they actually deserve the ideal they seek) the reaction always seems to be anger and contempt and moral indignance — never just chilling out and laughing it off, which is what you would expect if anger-phase was fundamentally about being lied to per se, or about women concealing their preferences. Or on this subreddit, witness how pissed off people get when certain girl users talk bluntly and mercilessly about what they’re really attracted to, even when it matches RP / blackpill theory — especially when it does, in fact.
From these examples it seems like when self-aware women outright state what they want without pulling any punches, they’re met with even more revulsion than when they tell little nice white lies. So I don’t think the issue at hand for these men is really about being lied to. In reality I think the anger stems almost entirely from the preferences themselves that are being expressed — usually preferences both deeply amoral and deeply exclusionary — and being told “the truth about female nature” earlier in life wouldn’t really have helped soften the blow (aside from maybe getting them into lifting and physical fitness earlier, which I’ll concede could have been important). The anger here is fundamentally rooted in being rejected by reality, not in “being lied to” — that’s just a psychological defense mechanism which comes after the fact, to give petty personal concerns the appealing sheen of moral superiority. This may seem like the most obvious point in the world for how long it took to get here, but I think it’s worth making.
Another more pithy way of putting it: anger-phase RPers aren’t upset that they were lied to, they’re upset that at some point the lies had to stop.
(P.S. Ultimately, I think we should be kinder to naive women who say things along the lines of “I would totally date a fat midget janitor if he was really nice to me”. They’re not really lying, they just don’t know how they’ll react until they’re actually placed in that situation and they tend towards idealization, like most people with most situations. You also probably think that you wouldn’t date a hyperslut with an N-count of 150, but get her in a room with you and let her play her cards right, and you’ll be begging to marry her — that’s life, and your traditional good-boy upbringing simply has no chance against it.)
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