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Male student expelled because girl regretted having sex with him can now sue the college.

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by null on /r/TheRedPill
11 August 2015 05:33 PM UTC
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Summary: Girls has sex with guy regrets it months later, accuses him of sexual assault. He gets expelled and a judge now is allowing him to sue the school.

So a Washington and Lee University female student has sex with a guy more than once. brags to her friends about how much fun it was. becomes friends with the guy on social media, etc... then months later she sees him kiss another girl and accuses him of sexual assault because she regretted sleeping with him. Now a judge is allowing the male student to sue the university which derailed the entire investigation citing Title IX gender bias. You can see the story here: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23709/

Lesson learned: Just goes to show how much power the feminists have managed to grab in the last 30 something years. I don't know how but stay safe gents!



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268 upvotesnantucketghost4 years ago

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162 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

No shit. Fuck anyone that thinks of being "better than that".. I fucking hate how sue-happy people in the US have become, hate lawyers, and hate the courts.. But you reap what you sow.

If you or any entity attempts to ruin your life with something as drastic as a rape charge, I see no problem with crushing them to dust financially.

94 upvotesbonjoe4 years ago

His career prospects are likely ruined because Google never forgets. You must be compensated for shit like this, no way around it.

22 upvotesdmystery4 years ago

European Legislation has upheld "the Right to be forgotten", is there not something similar over in the states?

24 upvotesCyricYourGod4 years ago

The concept of this is insane and will not ever work. Nothing you do will ever be forgotten because that's not how data distribution works. Data proliferates on the internet. You might be able to have single instances of data removed but it's rare that there's a single instance of data on a single server owned by a single entity.

In the case of this kid, his case is now being discussed here, robots who crawl and archive Reddit are already copying and saving this thread as we speak, those places and Reddit itself will be crawled by search engines across the world and saved. There'll be dozens if not hundreds of instances of this page saved within hours, all available in search engine indexes. That is just for one Reddit page. Let's not forget all the instances in social media, news, court hearings, etc., that are also found on the web related to this kid.

The internet does not "forget" and don't ever fool yourself into thinking it will ever forget no matter what white wig judge might say otherwise.

3 upvotesdrallcom34 years ago

It only "forgets" you on google.de/es/fr. You're still on google.com.

17 upvotesSleepNowMyThrowaway4 years ago

Don't get frothed up; I remember a case against a Texas' Universities School of Law over their obvious racist admissions policy (the typical awarding of bonus admission points based on race).

The White Plaintiff (male of female, I can't recall) won after much expense, time, and legal maneuvering.

The award? 1 dollar.

The system will operate as designed and shit on you when it can.

So while I hope he hammers the school then goes after individuals, don't get your hopes up.

Question: did the Duke LaCrosse Men get a payday? Or not?

31 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Yeah, the three accused dudes got 20 million each. Deserved every penny.

That fucking bitch who set them up didn't get charged with anything for making it up. She did however end up going to prison for knifing her baby daddy a few years after the whole incident.

That Duke Lacrosse thing should have been a wake up call to universities and society at large. It was a straight up railroad job against those kids.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

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9 upvotesRaz0rLight4 years ago

A rape accusation is taken very seriously for fair reason. Problem being its fucking easy to accuse someone of rape for your own prerogative. Your reputation is ruined, you could lose the best years of your life in jail, and some bitch is out there smirking "serves him right, now he knows what its like to be betrayed", thinking its anywhere close, thinking she's won. And the school fucking assists her, and the school just stands by.

Fuck this shit, sue it for every penny.

25 upvotesPaulAJK4 years ago

That's what will cure this particular problem, and it ought to happen pretty quick.

The Columbia mattress case guy could literally get a nine or even ten figure compensation against them. His life's been screwed up, after all, and they have oodles of cash. Once other colleges see the financial implications of losing these transparently unwinnable cases they'll change their policies.

149 upvotesunassumingusername74 years ago

Shit will change fast if universities have to worry about lawsuits from both sexes. Maybe they'll just make all students agree not to have sex as a condition for admittance. Or maybe they'll stop having pretend trials and let the real court system do its job.

93 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Perhaps they'll even have penalties for those who falsely accuse someone as a rapist.

111 upvotesShepherdTheRed4 years ago

False rape accusers should be registered sex offenders.

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3 upvotesStrokeGameHusky4 years ago

Very true, but that really only applies to cases that are already closed. those could easily be "grandfathered in" where the new law only applies to unsolved/new rape cases.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

They should also have a body camera implanted to prevent future false rape accusations, along with having their wages garnished in the future to pay back the man who was falsely accused.

17 upvoteszookeepier4 years ago

They should just get whatever the person they falsely accused would have got if convicted. If the accused would have got 20 to life, then they should get it instead.

12 upvotespcadrian4 years ago

Yea, who would've thought of THAT as a solution?

18 upvotesnerif_oracle214 years ago

thats like the government expecting women to responsible for their lies and pay for perjury /s

23 upvotesPedroIsWatching4 years ago

What? Making women have personal responsibility? Just tell men not to rape, shitlord!

17 upvotesputsch804 years ago

But but but that might discourage some woman from coming forward. It's better to throw 1000 innocent men in jail than to let one rapier to free! /s

6 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

That argument makes 0 sense, if it really happened it will be fucking transparent. Even if you had regret sex, they won't be able to prove it. The only people who GENUINELY have to worry are those who fucking made it up.

2 upvotesRougepellet4 years ago

Woah slow down there pal. Little too much optimism

14 upvotesthemasterof4 years ago

The best solution is to have the court systems do its job, and if the person is convicted of rape, they will go to jail and the university can expel them. All university courts should be abolished. They wouldn't try a murder in a university court, so why try rape in a university court?

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Because who needs the 5th amendment, the founding fathers only had the foresight to ban double jeopardy, but clearly a bastardized version of a trial, with less standard of evidence is okay!! /s

7 upvotesMeglomaniac4 years ago

"Please divert all claims of sexual assault/harassment to the police. It is not the place of the college/university to police our students behavior but those who are convicted of criminal charges will be expelled. We expect all students to govern themselves appropriately according to our laws"

How fucking hard is that?

12 upvotesunassumingusername74 years ago

It's funny that TRP thinks rape is serious enough to go to the police while feminists don't.

1 upvotesMeglomaniac4 years ago

i dont think 99% of rape cases deserve criminal charges.

I also dont think universities should be dealing with criminal charges, that is the job of the police.

5 upvotesthe_red_scimitar4 years ago

This is extremely true. One big payout and all those rules will change to make it clear it is gender neutral. If they still fuck that up -- cha ching!

1 upvotesloddfavne4 years ago

Maybe they'll just make all students agree not to have sex as a condition for admittance.

It was probably sarcasm, but monostaries had a role as a source for knowledge in medieval times.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

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2 upvotesunassumingusername74 years ago

Does anyone have a source for this? I'm quite interested.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Maybe they'll just make all students agree not to have sex as a condition for admittance.

I like this idea! That would make university a place of learning again! (And we'd have to remove the Studies depts. and every feminist from campus.)

1 upvotesKarmelion4 years ago

This problem was already sliced by our grandparents. Gender segregated schools solves all of this nonsense.

109 upvotes2comment4 years ago

I regret paying tuition.

I was only 17 when that relationship started. The College otoh was 150 years old. And kinda creepy. And everyone told me it was the thing to do. During our relationship I also was encourage to drink while underaged and do various drugs. Maybe the college didn't hand me these substances themselves, but it sure knew and it didn't bother them either. I'm pretty sure I went to plenty of classes less than sober and none of the professors even asked before they railed their filthy knowledge into my mind without proper consent. I also had to do a lot of work for free. I feel taken advantage of.

Now my jobs since then has nothing to do with my degree. Before I could even attend, the school forced me to sign a pre-admission form and now that I spent my peak years with them, with nothing to show for it -- they dumped my class for younger students. This wasn't remotely what I was promised or what I consented to. I regret going. I want my tuition back.

18 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

This is too spot on. Jesus.

20 upvotes2comment4 years ago

Do you feel the college experience they sold you was not the one you got or they implied a degree would lead to greater job opportunities than actually existed? You were defrauded, plain and simple, you lost the ability to consent the moment you were misinformed.

Time to claim the right of retroactive consent, #TuitionBack.

6 upvotesSqueezymypenisy4 years ago

That's an awesome false rape analogy. Jesus if that were true, no one would have any responsibility.

75 upvotesDuliticolaparadoxa4 years ago

I hope he wins and sets a legal precedent.

43 upvotesferengiprophet4 years ago

The only way colleges and state governments will learn is through constant litigation. Once their balance sheets are affected, policy will change.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Yes, once the winds of prosperity blow against these universities in the form of lawsuits these universities will have to steer a truer course or else be thrown from the great material continuum to be dashed on the shoals of bankruptcy.

Also pregnancies are leases.

36 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Hope he takes the girl to civil court as well for slander, libel, and defamation.

13 upvotestrpSenator4 years ago

And then hopefully goes to a higher court, so we can finally get some precedent behind this. But my money is on that they'd settle outside of court regardless.

22 upvotesrhodedressing4 years ago

"The female student who lodged the charge against John Doe has claimed she was the victim of nonconsensual intercourse, or “gray rape,”

"Gray rape" lmao

fuck this world

16 upvotesMattyAnon4 years ago

Awesome, more power to this guy! The tide has to turn on this Title IX gender bias crap in American Colleges.

22 upvotesthe_red_scimitar4 years ago

Feminists don't understand how their own agenda is destroying their own agency, and handing it to others. They won't like the result, because fairness isn't in their vocabulary, except as a slang term for misandry.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

This is one of the top posts on r/news right now and what's interesting is how the vast majority are supporting the guy as the real victim. It's nice to see that white knight syndrome isn't overruling common sense for once, although it's a shame something this absurd has to happen before people start to question the system's fairness.

2 upvotesthrowaway-aa24 years ago

TBH the fact that a "win" for you (or us to be fair) is a guy who had consensual sex and got fired from his job and expelled is seen as the victim after being accused of rape MONTHS after the fact...is insane.

If women (or men) can't see men as victims... then why the fuck should I care AT ALL? That's really my new mentality moving forward... I'm already an evil man... I might as well do what I want at ALL TIMES.

27 upvotesRPthrowaway1234 years ago

Fuck yes! To think, I almost went to that school. They made a big push for me athletics-wise but I went to a different school. Now I KNOW I made the right decision.

Oh and if you need to be convinced after that fact that what occurred was a rape, that should automatically throw it out. She was not raped. What the fuck does "gray rape" even mean?!

7 upvotesjeffwingersballs4 years ago

FIRE.org rates universities based on their student speech codes. Just something to factor.

5 upvotesRPthrowaway1234 years ago

I graduated already, but if I was going into school right now I would be very, very wary.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Are there any green schools in existence? Every university in my state* is yellow.

8 upvoteshsully05244 years ago

I went to high school with this guy. Fuck that bitch.

EDIT her not him

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

The fact that he's being allowed to sue at all marks a turn in the tide.

4 upvotesCloughtower4 years ago

“Is it Possible That There Is Something In Between Consensual Sex And Rape . . . And That It Happens To Almost Every Girl Out There?”

Not the ones waiting until marriage or the ones who take responsibility for their actions.

Seems to be more and more rare nowadays...

5 upvotes4benny2lava04 years ago

Where are the consequences for the girl filed a false rape claim?

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

lololol

Let's not delude ourselves here now

9 upvotesDr_HoaxArthurWilmoth4 years ago

I hope that dude bankrupts that school or gets a board position and millions of dollars.

Fucking Gray Rape?????? Let's just call a spade a spade and call it False Accusation Lying.

5 upvotesDaphneDK4 years ago

Gray Rape is when girls are being abducted by extraterrestrial aliens which subject their various holes to intensive probing by dubious machinery. Only to be recalled through extensive hypnotherapy. I blame The Patriarchy.

1 upvotesjuanqunt4 years ago

what does the slut say when she meets an alpha alien?

take me to your wiener.

What is an UFO and why it doesn't exist?

Universal Female Orgasm

19 upvotesfeminazis_stalk_me4 years ago

Get rid of coed colleges. Have men's colleges separate from women's colleges. Just nip that shit right in the bud. It will protect men from false claims and it will make men one less thing women have to worry about. Both men and women can just focus on their studies and get shit done.

62 upvotesmax_peenor4 years ago

The all-male schools will turn out degrees that are far superior than all-female schools and the feminists will go batshit insane about.

42 upvotes2comment4 years ago

And then demand that the male schools take on female students and institute some type of affirmative action... while female schools can remain all female.

17 upvotesDrXaos4 years ago

This is exactly what happened to the Ivy League & Women's colleges in the 1960's of course.

2 upvotescover204 years ago

Yes this happened. And the all male schools were doing great but could not remain all male because the women demanded the "opportunity".

The all women schools were doing worse and worse and now they've mostly gone coed from lack of female customers e.g. Vassar, Skidmore, Manhattanville. Girls don't want to be in an all female environment unless they are lesbians. And at some point girls didn't even want the reputational risk that might come from going there and having men think they are lesbians.

Maybe some feminists thought this would change once women could be strong and equal and not need men or the Mrs. degree. Nope.

And once they're full of man hating lesbians, men don't want to be there anyway. No men are demanding that "opportunity". So places like Smith and Mt. Holyoke are lesbian feminist cesspits.

They might do a service if they kept all the man haters there. But unfortunately there are lots more of them at MIT, the Ivy League, and probably everywhere else.

17 upvotesfeminazis_stalk_me4 years ago

Not. Our. Fucking. Problem. Take men out of the equation and let women do whatever the fuck they want amongst themselves - as long as we aren't the ones put on the butcher block whenever one of them goes all "hell hath no fury". Give us our own spaces to get shit done so this world keeps spinning and civilization can advance.

0 upvotesawalt_cupcake4 years ago

And give them a sign up sheet to have sex with a randomly picked male. Better yet, have them pay us first. Women love spending money.

3 upvotesfeminazis_stalk_me4 years ago

You need to work in Admissions.

3 upvotesJackGoldsteinWrites4 years ago

Not so sure.

They might have some sort of arcane conduct rules that allow expellation for off-campus behavior.

Think of it this way, there are no women in the NFL (referees aside) and players get suspended all the time for what they do to women (rightly or wrongly).

5 upvotesBaconEggsAndSleaze4 years ago

there are no women in the NFL

There is now an NFL Coach

TBH, she looks like bruce jenner.

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

you won't convince me that's not a man with a sex change.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

"Why do I put myself out there like this? Well, football has often been referred to as the final frontier for women in sports, so for an NFL team to have brought a woman into the coaching ranks, that speaks volumes. It's an important step for girls and women to see. Being a woman is part of who I am. It's not all of who I am, and I’m not here just because I'm a woman. I'm here as a football coach.

If my opportunity in the NFL is a chance to show other women what’s possible in this world, and to show guys that there is another dimension to a lot of women—that this game that they love can be loved and respected by a woman—why wouldn’t I highlight that? At the same time, my most important obligation right now is helping Coach Arians and this team."

6 upvotesselfishhuman4 years ago

I'm just happy that the guy got some justice. These cases hardly ever go that smoothly for men.

5 upvotestsudonimh4 years ago

No, he's won the right to pay a legal team lots of money for the chance to get some justice.

The fact that he even had to ask for fucking permission is an injustice.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

I don't even understand how college is involved in this. Is it because college doesn't want to get bad reputation ("only rapists go there")?

4 upvotesVasiliyZaitzev4 years ago

Title IX provides a extra-legal process that colleges have to allow b/c they are all dependent on federal funds. The alleged victims always choose the college judicial process b/c it's a much lower standard (preponderance of the evidence, or, well "FEELZ" really) than in the criminal justice process. Oh, and you don't get to cross examine the witnesses against you etc.

Really, this sort of bullshit is one reason to go to a state school where they have to observe due process b/c they're part of the government. Sure', they'll still screw you (cough-cough, UVa, cough-cough), but you can NAIL them later.

-1 upvotesthe_red_scimitar4 years ago

So, according to Donald Trump, all their students are Mexicans???

3 upvotesbrendan2504 years ago

I would urge him to take legal action to the fullest extent. It's tiring to constantly hear of young men with potential being ruined by "the system". Maybe a few people will learn from this.

3 upvotescoin83004 years ago

People will do whatever they can to throw you under the bus and take advantage of you, especially women even as they smile at you and pretent to be kind - dont ever forget that. They are tricks to the bone and barely know it themselves. Claiming victim status, complaining, and throwing tantrums has been the trend for some time now. Its time to stop putting up with that shit and frankly I hope it escalates to where if you see another man catering to this behavior you treat him like the fucking woman he is. You need to actually stand up and express anger towards false rape claims and women getting off the hook. Stand up for women getting handed jobs they never earned (they want 50/50 representation in STEM jobs while few of them actually go to college for it). Stand up to women cashing out on marriages and taking half of a mans hard earned money. Stand up for preferential treatment everywhere they go. And stand up to weak beta men bending over backwards for them. You want equality, you can fucking have it.

3 upvotescleamatra4 years ago

I can't believe there is even a concept called "grey rape" for women who regret having given consent at some point in the past. Holy fucking shit lord that is messed up.

2 upvotesredmeatball4 years ago

Whoa, is this the beginning of justice?

2 upvotescommentatorX4 years ago

Honestly, it's fair enough suing the school for failing to protect him - but if I were this guy, I'd want my 'get' from the girl... you know, the dramatic false accuser, the childish fraudster, the liar, the one who's bullshit stood to ruin him... not the establishment. I find it seriously disturbing that her actions don't count as a criminal.

2 upvotesfoldpak1114 years ago

"Give them nothing, but take from them, EVERYTHING!" -King Leonidas

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

In a fair world his lawsuit would shut down the school and send a message to the world about false rape claims...in a fair world

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Isnt Patrick Kane of the Chicago Blackhawks facing a similar situation as of recent? Fucking Feminist. Wish Mad Men took place now.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Shortly before Jane Doe officially lodged the assault claim, she listened to a campus talk by Kozak in which the administrator discussed an article, “Is it Possible That There Is Something In Between Consensual Sex And Rape . . . And That It Happens To Almost Every Girl Out There?” It was during this talk Kozak reportedly suggested regret over a sexual encounter equals rape, the judge’s ruling stated.

Holy shit, if anyone needs to get fired and sued it's this stupid broad.

4 upvotesdeville054 years ago

Feminists only gave all this power cuz men betrayed their kind and their future for greed and gave it to them

3 upvotesthrowaway-aa24 years ago

He should sue his place of work too for gender bias as well. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? I know most companies do at will employment but you can't fire someone for their race so why should you be able to fire a man if he gets caught up in a rape allegation?

1 upvotesThroway990384 years ago

Can't believe the guilty till you are proven innocent approach that gets taken in sexual assault cases. It's just pure bs.

1 upvotesDoesNotMatterAnymore4 years ago

As I mentioned before, rape and sexual assault is not a crime in US campuses. Because in civilized countries these crimes are handled by the police and not school boards.

1 upvotesMagnum2564 years ago

In a perfect world he wins a billion dollars and the woman who made a false accusation spends 25 years in prison. Hopefully as time goes by (maybe not in our lifetime) there's tremendously strict and regularly enforced laws that might discourage people from making these sorts of false claims. It can be, and often is, life destroying.

1 upvotesThroway990384 years ago

Hope the guy gets a big ass settlement and a public letter of apology from the university.

1 upvotesgrewapair4 years ago

We need to nullify rape cases because there is literally no consequences for falsely claiming rape.

If anyone can do it and get away with it, then I'm not ever convicting a rapist, even with witnesses and a video. Fuck this shit.

-1 upvotesWAFC4 years ago

I don't know how but stay safe gents!

It's very simple, but simple doesn't mean easy. If you are a college student: DO. NOT. SLEEP. WITH. COLLEGE GIRLS. The end.

Yes, I know they're fucking hot (I'm a Sr. myself). I know they are dirty and will do wild shit, I know...I KNOW. But they have the power to FUCK UP YOUR LIFE, derail your entire life, ruin the years of work you've put in to get to this point and walk away unscathed.

I don't care if you're the Chaddiest Alpha to ever swing dick, this CAN happen to you, because it is based entirely on her feelings, and her feelings can change. For example, you fuck her friend, now she feels like a slut. You're a rapist and expelled because you have no hope of defending yourself in a kangaroo court.

It sucks, it's not fair, and the solution isn't something anyone wants to hear, but if this happens to you in 2015, after years of story after story like this, well, then IT WAS YOUR FAULT. Not hers, not the school's, YOURS.

-1 upvotesf3yleaf4 years ago

r/mgtow is -------> that way

1 upvotesWAFC4 years ago

Jesus Christ. Like there's no pussy off-campus and college girls are the only thing available. Fuck off.

-11 upvotesryno554 years ago

Well that's a fucking dumber idea. DONT sleep with college girls?

How about don't rape anybody, and be careful about having one night stands and breaking hearts.

7 upvotesWAFC4 years ago

Well that's a fucking dumber idea. DONT sleep with college girls?

Not if you're a guy in college. If you're outside the control of the Gender Studies-led kangaroo courts, then bang away.

How about don't rape anybody, and be careful about having one night stands and breaking hearts.

This guy didn't rape anyone, nor did he have a one night stand, still got accused.

Do what you want, but if you catch an accusation at this point it's on you.

-3 upvotesryno554 years ago

They guy also won in civil court, so it seems justice has been served. Giving up our freedom is how terrorists win.

6 upvotesWAFC4 years ago

I'd bet good money he doesn't feel that way after having his name tarnished (they don't call him "John Doe" on campus), who knows how much in legal fees and having his education postponed at a minimum. Also he hasn't won dick, yet, except the right to sue.

2 upvotesTurgidMeatWand4 years ago

Don't rape people sure, but breaking someone's heart is not worthy of rape charges.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

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1 upvotesTurgidMeatWand4 years ago

True enough didn't get what you were saying at first.

0 upvotesABC_Florida4 years ago

Shouldn't be a time window to report rape without physical evidence?

If someone reports a rape after X amount of time of the rape (or alleged rape)

OR

X amount of time he/she wasn't limited in her/she freedom of movement, then the police would drop the case due to lack of evidence.

-1 upvotesBlueFreedom4204 years ago

Some bitch got 800,000 dollars suing the University of Oregon. I doubt this guy will even get even close to that amount. Because the underlying feminist dogma that men are never innocent, they just get away with rape, will always punctuate the case.





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