Joe Rogan is stunned at Miriam Nakamoto’s open display of hypergamy

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Title Joe Rogan is stunned at Miriam Nakamoto’s open display of hypergamy
Author red_matrix
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Date 13 March 2020 04:54 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Am0rph80 points81 points  (1 child) | Copy

So....basically...she got wet for a random guy who beat the shit out of her boyfriend.. 😕

[–]Totsean20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finally a correct analysis.

[–]hockeyaddict87395 points396 points  (77 children) | Copy

There’s plenty of women just as hot as her that aren’t that picky so why waste your time on her? A red pill mindset completely eliminates girl’s ability to do this dumb crap

[–]11-Eleven-1165 points66 points  (15 children) | Copy

Why would you want a woman that in the back of her mind believes she could take you in fight in the first place

[–]beginner_26 points27 points  (10 children) | Copy

yeah. And the problem is "believes". Which doesn't mean it's actually true.

But I really wonder why is she even in that business? Sounds like some kind of red flag anyway.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lmao, please. She's 5'9 135 lbs

[–]TheGreatConst1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

People just overestimate the advantage they get thanks to their weight or physical power. Your weight category matters, but only at a similar skill level. She is 135lbs which is about average for a skinny guy. Would she be able to beat a trained athlete much above her weight league? Of course no. Would she be able to kick the average man's ass? Easy. Would she be able to beat a guy who is strong, but has zero training in martial arts? Sure. To knock someone out you only need one unexpected hook accurate enough to strike their chin. 120lbs professional boxer (be it an old man, woman or a skinny teenager) would be able to win a fight against 200lbs bodybuilder. As long as he/she keeps the distance or strikes first. It is counter-intuitive because we, like most other animals, are programmed to associate size with fighting capability. But it is a fucking fact proven countless times.

[–]beginner_1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You completely missed my point which is that the only thing that matters is what she believes not what is real. There is a much better and longer comment from whisper in this thread. Read it.

[–]Nicolas06311 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

How much better and trained do you need to be to compensate the strength and weight difference ?

She can totally beat a beta that isn't into fighting, but would she manage to beat any regular man that know how to fight but isn't even ranked or do competition. Not so sure.

Anyway it does not matter one bit and if a man was to ever think of beating a woman we all know what would happen to him.

[–]goingbamboo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

An athlete at her level is so well versed in her craft her fight iq and understanding of her the way her body moves, distance, timing, stamina, feights, counters and traps, and how her opponent moves would put any regular untrained guy that thinks hes knows how to fight in a world of pain. Theres is so much more involved in fighting than just size. Miriam Nakamoto is one of the most decorated Muay Thai fighters our of the US. Her name is pretty well respected in the fight community. That being said most women that do train or compete train regularly with men.

Daniel Cromier is always saying "Theres levels to this shit" and in muay thai that chick is pretty much the top.

It would be like if I, someone who's taken a tennis lesson and played casually before, challenged one of the williams sisters to a match and expect to win because of a size and strength advantage.

That being said .. a man of equal level in skill and weight and size or even smaller than Miriam would most likely win a fight.

But average joe, been in a bar fight guy, is another planet in terms of skill needed to beat an athlete of her level.

[–]slamdunktiger865 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I roll jiu jitsu and probably 10-15% of the class are women but man, I don't know wtf happened, but they're all damaged up the wazoo. All the obviously red flags. Tattoos, piercings, etc. I've declined rolls with some girls cause of nasty BO too.

Dude, I'm a guy, 200 lbs, 6'2" and I get grossed out with really sweaty guys in wet industrial pajamas trying to kill me. For girls not to be phased is disturbing.

But ya, basically, met zero dateable girls in jiu jitsu.

I stopped rolling altogether due to the virus. I'm not risking destroyed lung capacity and infertility.

[–]NarrowBath7-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

you sound like you have issues yourself bud imma be honest. Instead of the problem being with yourself, you somehow always see it with others. A girl has a tattoo, so what? red flag? You sound like a boomer. You get grossed out rolling with people and "you're a 6'2 200lb dude!"? So if girls don't get grossed out but you do, thats indicative of them being disturbed, not you being a little sissy boy, right? Deluded. We all are to an extent, but you take the cake.

[–]slamdunktiger863 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not an argument. Kids table is over there.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (4 children) | Copy

Spot. Fucking. On.

I mean, all women have some measure of unreasonable behavior somewhere in them. But theres a threshold beyond which I simply wont go. Ever. For anyone. And when the behavior hits that threshold, you walk.

I wasnt always that way. But once you walk the first god is that a liberating experience. We dont NEED them. Especially not any one particular one of them. And once you get past that bit of conditioning...its all downhill all the way to DGAF Station.

[–]Praecipuus0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Don't you miss feeling really attracted to a girl and looking forward to fucking her, though?

I'm at the point where I lose interest as soon as the shit testing starts and sometimes wish I could get some of my old thirst back to spice things up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Oh I agree.

I'm 40 now. Still decently fit. Good sex drive.

But nothing turns me off like shit tests. The minute they start these days, I'm just done. Not angry. Just...done.

Addendum: I was already in an LTR when I found RP, and some days, I think seriously of ending it. LTRs can easily devolve into a series of shit tests some days/weeks, and I just...cant be bothered. Shes a decent gal, but shes gotten complacent and a bit lazy.

[–]Praecipuus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

nothing turns me off like shit tests. The minute they start these days, I'm just done. Not angry. Just...done.

Indeed. It's not that I consciously walk away when it starts, but rather that I get this immediate urge to just go do something other than entertaining a woman to get something I'm not curious about anymore.

LTRs can easily devolve into a series of shit tests some days/weeks, and I just...cant be bothered. Shes a decent gal, but shes gotten complacent and a bit lazy.

Plus you can only have sex with them so many times until you lose all motivation to put up with their stuff.

Ironically enough, the more you get bored of banging them, the more they tend to put you through shit to bang them yet again.

I just crave craving women, man.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its tough, I admit. There are absolutely times when I miss that feeling of being really drawn to a woman. But I think RP has killed the old romantic tendencies I once possessed.

And I am with you on tests. They start, I just...ignore them entirely now, and go do my thing. At this point, she will calm down and come to me. And if she doesn't, well, she knows where the door is. I am long past my heart breaking because a woman got bored of me. Its not personal; getting bored of men is what they DO.

[–]Luckyluke2328 points29 points  (6 children) | Copy

dude, i could only get threw the first 2 mins of this. she isn't THAT attractive to be pulling this bullshit.

she should be fucking supportive. not this you should be doing EVERYTHING 200% ALL the time or i turn off.

what a mole

[–]hockeyaddict8719 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s such a bad excuse to break up with someone. He’s an professional ufc fighter which means he’s the best of the best in martial arts. And she breaks up with him because he showed weakness in a fight? She just needed a reason to dump him

[–]Luckyluke239 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah, if that's the case. in her mind, she already checked out months ago. she wanted she just needed an out.

[–]Camel-fingers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

trying to protect yourself from potential brain damage doesn't seem like a sign of weakness to me but hey..

[–]AshyLarry272 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is all conditioned thinking. AWALT. They all get men that approach them and want to fuck them so obviously they have higher standards as a basic result. You can say she's not that attractive, but that conflicts with her results in the SMP. Its just like market forces. You can say "X car is ugly and doesn't even have that many good features, and people keep buying it at $30,000. I don't get it." So if her pussy is "$30,000" in value and has been picked up before at that value, why would she reduce value or act as if the value is any less?

[–]Luckyluke231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah i guess so. i'm just saying that shit don't fly with me.

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She shares a common interest with her former partner which probably gave her the LTR edge. But tingles Uber alles.

[–]matagad171 points172 points  (15 children) | Copy

There’s plenty of women just as hot as her

she is hot? she is 43 and thin, nothing more.

[–]hockeyaddict87132 points133 points  (2 children) | Copy

In the United States today being thin and taking care of yourself makes you desirable because so many women don’t do those two things

[–]1Ill_mumble_that24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's so hard to be a woman in America.

They have to do all of these impossible steps in order to succeed in dating, finances, and socialization:

  1. Be thin.
  2. Shower.
  3. Leave house, or post pics of self online.
  4. PROFIT (via men lining up to give you free shit)

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even here in Australia.

I had a stark realization after my last breakup; I was determined to make sure the next one was an upgrade (hotter, better personality)....and after the first day of daygaming and getting back on the apps, it was clear that this chick who was, in my opinion, not more than an 8 on her best possible day was still easily in the top 1% of chicks taken at random.

[–]cilantromakesmepuke33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

she is 43 and thin, nothing more.

Nothing more? What about that half ton of baggage she carries with her? 25 years of carouselling ain't no joke, there's no fighter boyfriend tough enough for that, man.

[–]matagad5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

im talking about her appearance.. not about her history

[–]cilantromakesmepuke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

she is 43

To me, mentioning the age implies some life history as well. Anyway, take what I said as a constructive addition of what you said, not as a contradiction. Maybe I should have added the /s, it is Reddit after all.

[–]Leg__Day44 points45 points  (6 children) | Copy

She's not the only hot 43 year old in the world

[–]aRedLlama74 points75 points  (3 children) | Copy

There's easily tens of them.

[–]Mustang101116 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup theres literally only tens of them out there. That's why you date the ones in their 20s.

[–]zUltimateRedditor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

And even then, after 25 A LOT of them go downhill after.

[–]mclukas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's literally, dozens of us.

[–]helenvsgladys12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's not one of the hot 43 year olds in the world.

[–]Nicolas06313 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is a 5-6 basically and near end of life product be it for her being a champion or her physical appearance.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s why she will end up either alone or in a very frustrating marriage.

All girls want to be thrown around. If they lift and are strong that limits their dating pool to the top 1% of males who can have someone hotter without the baggage

[–]25russianbear2527 points28 points  (11 children) | Copy

Often the ones that accomplished anything require the guy to be 100% perfect. 1 misstep/weakness and its ew face shes turned off.

Sure you can get a somewhat alright girl but with no ambition and finance her whole life but not everyone likes a gold digger you know?

[–]WhiteGhosts23 points24 points  (10 children) | Copy

Yeah but do u want to be 100 all the time

[–]34Csnevets27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tired just thinking about it.

"It's like having a bomb on your lap!" - Bobby Hill, philosopher.

[–]hearse22334 points35 points  (17 children) | Copy

While you are 100% true there are women just as hot or better looking than her, they probably arent champion Muay Thai fighters.

If she was just some girl Joe wouldnt even be interviewing her on his podcast.

[–]totallymanlytears151 points152 points  (12 children) | Copy

No offense to her accomplishments, but I don’t care one bit what a girl I’m interested in does or her status, if anything it makes her less attractive

[–]IATAsshole90 points91 points  (0 children) | Copy


As you said not shitting on her achievements, being a world champion is fucking insane.

Then again I get a real masculine vibe from her and it turned me instantly off. But to each his own.

[–]beginner_7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. Why would I want to be with a "famous" chick? I don't want the media/paparazzi harassing me. Nothing is worth that. (And yes I think actors, musicians etc. have a pretty bad deal. They earn a ton but at a huge cost. Entrepreneurs earn much, much more in contrast to their publicity.

[–]Nicolas06312 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think they are after that... Attention seeking ! Remember that many are dependant on it.

[–]DF-RP-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough. I personally do care a great deal about the girls personality, drive to acchieve, status and other things beyond just her looks.

For example, I had a girl who in addition to being a stunner, had similar ideological views with me, enjoyed same hobbies and was super competitive like me and very succesful, as far as fresh uni grad can go. Because of very similar interests and drives we had very nice and in depth conversations and enjoyed each others company beyond just sex. I feel this is more fulfilling.

I can easily also imagine that this particular woman's ex bf enjoyed her sharing similar hobbies with him, which made connecting on a personal level easier. When your girl is also into going to the gym and having hours of hitting practice followed by sparring matches, reviewing tapes of your opponent's past matches to come up with strategies, watching other fights and analysing them on the live what people are doing right and wrong... there's lot there to share. Just though shit that it also meant her seeing him being weak, as it's a sport where either person in the ring always goes home humiliated.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

On the other hand...and I dont mean to take away from her achievements...she is not one the best pro fighters out there. I mean, sure, she might be, among women.

The fact, though, remains: If I want to see the finest fighters - or basketball players or swimmers - in the world...I'm gonna watch mens sports. Period. Thats not sexist, its just the truth.

[–]xkcd_puppy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

What, you gonna put your dick in her Muay Thai?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

And guys care little about that lol

[–]hearse2230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Guys who are fighters and maybe want good genes for their kids to be a generation of even better fighters would care (definitely not me). If you are looking for a quick nut any whore will do.

[–]lilstxn7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Trp Jus gives you the knowledge that they do it, doesn’t stop it

[–]humanlike-robot7129 points130 points  (5 children) | Copy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me as if her perfect mate is a walking contradiction.

[–]M7A1-RI0T97 points98 points  (3 children) | Copy

which is exactly what she wants. Then she can leave at any time (read: when someone of higher social status takes a liking to her) and never feel any guilt. They'll do anything to avoid responsibility. It makes them feel icky. Mind of a toddler

[–]LukesLikeIt12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women like this fought for equality and then control so they could enjoy the sexual feeling of having it taken away by an alpha male

[–]MarvelousWhale11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

So not only was feminism and women's rights a shit test we failed as men as a whole, but they subconsciously wanted to lose to get a sense of sexual arousal from being denied what they asked for, becoming disappointed in the end when they won and ultimately lost respect for men as a whole because of this...

Very interestingly put!

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's been said here for over 8 years. 1000 times. Feminism is a shit test.

[–]dirksmith198420 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Then again women themselves are a walking contradiction.

[–]PCM97468 points469 points  (52 children) | Copy

So she got turned off by a man because when he got knocked out he (probably involuntarily) put his hands in the air while he was being beaten? She’s gonna die alone lol

[–]mortalcoil1270 points271 points  (17 children) | Copy

The way she posed is called a fencing response. It is an involuntary muscle reaction to getting a severe concussion.

Here's a compilation video of it.

See, women don't generally hit hard enough to cause the fencing response.

Men do.

Somebody should probably explain that to this woman.

[–]kellykebab99 points100 points  (0 children) | Copy

But why would she allow herself to be mansplained when she could live alone and contract toxoplasmosis due to an overabundance of pet cats?

[–]ProFriendZoner60 points61 points  (3 children) | Copy

It would be a waste of time to explain it, she doesn't care. It won't change things.

[–]Playear26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

Exactly. Weakness in men is unattractive.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even if that weakness is still a guy who is stronger than 99% of the male population

Same shit as the trap that women want to know your feelings

[–]ProFriendZoner10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. But we are not talking about him, we're talking about her reaction to him. You can't negotiate attraction. You can't explain manliness to women. Take a look at most women you know and what they are attracted to.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy

Holy shit, I never knew that...but she is a pro fighter, and SHE didnt know that?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

Even if she did know it her brain would hamster it as him being a pussy like it did in the video

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Exactly that. Logic doesnt work.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's perfectly logical. She saw her man being dominated by another man and lost attraction for him because of that.

It doesn't matter if he could kick 99% of people's ass.

She saw him lose. Now she wants to mate with the guy that beat him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Put like that, true enough

[–]Camel-fingers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

a modern day "war bride" so to speak. No loyalty whatsoever

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women don’t care about logical explanations

[–]Geoff_Uckersilf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or she'll learn the hard way.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No.... You guys are completely missing the point. TRP isn't about bitching at women, that's what MGTOW is for. This sub is about female nature.

WOMEN HATE WEAK MEN. No woman cares about the science of the fencing response and you can't explain or negotiate attraction to her. "it's just a fencing response you should still be attracted to him!".... No. She got turned on by the guy winning a fight. No woman wants to loser. Go be a winner and stop complaining.

[–]HerefortheTuna0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Someone should hit her hard enough to let her experience it

[–]Nicolas06310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If this is man, he should go to jail. if it a woman she is the toughest there and it doesn't matter. She is not her own partner, she look for perfection in her partner, not herself.

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[–]totallymanlytears104 points105 points  (15 children) | Copy

It’s not unbelievable at all, though it is logically very unreasonable

[–]InformalCriticism63 points64 points  (12 children) | Copy

Yeah; that's the caveat. She is unbridled female nature with a vanishingly small list of men who could excite her due to her chosen profession.

[–]vreller38 points39 points  (10 children) | Copy

She’s not even that pretty lol.

[–]chubz4you4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

She’s 11/10 below the neck if shes a muay thai fighter though.

[–]DeakinFrost37 points38 points  (7 children) | Copy

not if she replaced her tits with pecks

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman29 points30 points  (5 children) | Copy

Let's just say you need to be satisfied with "not very much".

[–]HellSpeed26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd take a pudgy girl over a girl with rock hard abs. I don't think she looks good at all. Just my opinion though.

[–]HillaryLostTheEC2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder what they used to look like 🤔

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel like I'd have to say "no homo" when having sex with a girl built like that. But I definitely would.

[–]HillaryLostTheEC7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's exactly what happened lol

She traded them in.

[–]Nicolas06312 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I looked and not at all. The ideal look of a woman isn't to be as muscular as a man that spend his days at the gym.

[–]KuanLuPi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is unbridled female nature? Hmmm

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

To be fair, "logically unreasonable" is pretty much the default state for women.

Men should never, ever forget that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

All women*

Don’t give your girl a chance to watch you fail

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[–]HillaryLostTheEC95 points96 points  (6 children) | Copy

Don't even call it a she, it's a he. Women are just ridiculous, she's gotta get her ass beat by a dude and then she'll realize she's not anywhere as tough as a dude.

[–]azoooz20126 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

I fucking know right? "fighter" my ass.

[–]HillaryLostTheEC14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

No one said she isn't a fighter, just you. But men are the top fighters and always will be. Do you deny that?

EDIT: it's hilarious, she says she wants someone who is better than her at something. Any professional male muay thai fighter is better than her. Let's put her up against the world's best muay thai fighter. The male is gonna be stronger, quicker, and tougher by a lot.

[–]chipipro12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Doesn’t even have to be the best, any above average one with martial arts knowledge would send her straight to ER

[–]RagingHardBull8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

In all honesty a high school level fighter will be better. It is similar to female professional soccer who train against 15 year old male high schoolers who beat the professional female team more than not.

[–]HauntingPlatypus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bunch of overweight ex mens pros in their mid 50's messing around vs professional women's team absolutely dominate lol.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This honestly sounds like a good way for the 50 year old dudes to get laid.

[–]Whopper_Jr8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber by Ernest Hemingway. Finest RP literature

[–]Birelan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, it was very good. Do you have any more on top of your head?

[–]NumerousImprovements0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Idk Joe tried to explain that and she said it was more of “no please stop hitting me” type thing. I think her whole point was that the one thing he was meant to be great at, he wasn’t even doing properly with the right spirit. She said she’d date a guy who aces her at at least one thing. Presumably for this guy it was meant to be fighting and he couldn’t even do that.

This is classic hypergamy for sure, but let’s not assume that this guy wasn’t just a beta.

[–]nayvote111 points112 points  (10 children) | Copy

He's a FIGHTER, by profession. Fighters lose fights. Go find you a Khabib Nurmagomedov or Tyson Fury, there's a couple men in the world who'd meet your exacting standards. I'm sure they'll settle for you.

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[–]dpgproductions28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not so sure Khabib doesn’t sleep exclusively with grizzly bears

[–]Son0fMan19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

i get the vibe khabib is faithful to his wife

[–]zUltimateRedditor4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Huh? What does this comment even mean?

[–]StoneColdJane19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Khabib also lost 1 time in sambo

[–]nayvote57 points58 points  (3 children) | Copy

Damn, and here I thought he was a badass...

[–]StoneColdJane8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

It was desicion in very competitive bout, against extremely good fighter.

[–]nayvote19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I was being sarcastic :)

[–]StoneColdJane6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know, I just took it as an opportunity to explain to people thinking of what happened.

[–]jojojijo33319 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, bitches with this type of smirk I detect them and avoid them like the plague. She's damaged real good.

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She is a UFC fighter after all

[–]EdvardMunch17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can tell by the look in the still shes a woman who likes getting choked out and fucked hard. I imagine her mind cant pair that with flailing hands is all.

The upside a woman like this, but also the downside. You can get women who like sweet and understanding but probably don't like sex that much.

[–]BarbedAndWired7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can tell by the look in the still shes a woman who likes getting choked out and fucked hard. I imagine her mind cant pair that with flailing hands is all.

its really as simple and amoral as that. idk why so many Men here are twisting their panties in a knot over it

[–]Dos_Shepard164 points165 points  (10 children) | Copy

Black at it again. She’s the same type who refuses to date anyone who isn’t “Hood enough” only to end up with two kids and her baby daddy in Prison for life.

This bitch is stupid stupid.

[–]ENZOxDV150 points51 points  (8 children) | Copy

That's what they want, a sperm donor with good genes. He gets sent to prison and now she has her 2 kids with welfare checks rolling in.

[–]nayvote25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy

If good genes entail going to prison, I think I'd rather have bad genes.

[–]ENZOxDV138 points39 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's her idea of good genes bro not ours, keep up

[–]nayvote14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

If having genes that get me laid entails me going to prison, I'd rather not get laid.

[–]eddielovett12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

When a small, weak man gets angry nobody gets hurt. When a big, strong man gets angry someone could end up hurt and he could end up in prison. I suppose that’s the logic linking good genes with prison.

[–]Nicolas06310 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Using physical strength and fighting outside of dedicated clubs is being really stupid. You get things whatever it is including revenge by using your brain. That what we rule that plannet and not lions, bull or bears.

[–]eddielovett-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wanting revenge is petty, egoistic and juvenile. Anyway, men with high levels of testosterone are more likely to have a lapse in emotional control this doesn’t make them stupid. Smart people can make mistakes in the heat of the moment. And all it takes is one violent mistake to end up in prison.

[–]lickerofjuicypaints1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exagerated grug hardware get grug software

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Her logical brain says "I want someone smart" but her female brain says "I want that guy the kicked my boyfriends ass"

[–]irishluckk13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

She wants a man who is better than her-. Patrice O neal

[–]BarbedAndWired4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

its really that simple... too many Men here are angry at her personally, even though she's just following her instinct to second guess her current choice and weigh that against better options

[–]Axiomatic_Agony82 points83 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yet I bet this mongrel would be outraged if a man would refuse to date her because she refuses to behave like a traditional woman.

[–]TheSecondLesson28 points29 points  (6 children) | Copy

It’s easy to dismiss pain when your opponents weigh in at 135lbs

[–]NarrowBath70 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

what? as if 135 guy lb couldn't snap your shit up or fuck you up? lol.

[–]TheSecondLesson0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

She’s not fighting guys retard.

[–]NarrowBath70 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Well you said your opponent weights in at 135, not specifying you meant gender, so your first comment left information out. Also, as if a 135 girl couldn't fuck you up either lol

"they are only 135 so therefore they inflict way less pain" is what you implied. I think that's retarded. For one, women have less pain tolerance, so they feel more pain than men. Meaning, any pain they receive is worse than it is for men. Two, knockouts in mens weight classes happen more, which you could say actually saves on amount of pain received as fights are ended quicker and with less consciousness around to experience pain. Three, girls are plenty capable of being savage in a cage fight, I've seen snapped arms fucked up faces, cuts and broken shit in a lot of girls fights. Though I do agree on average they obviously pale in comparison to mens abilities. 4. You're forgetting it's relative, a 135 kicking another 135 legs is gunna hurt in a relative way, your 135 lb leg is absorbing a 135lb kick. just like how a 180lb leg absorbs a 180lb kick, though it does become a question of at (and if) a certain weight class the strength and damage capabilities outweigh the defensive benefits of having that larger frame, which I think would be your strongest point. Overall, I think you need to go to an mma gym and get your ass kicked a bit, it'll be good for you.

[–]TheSecondLesson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bro, I’m 6’0 220 lbs. Trust me, a 135 lb chick isn’t fucking me up—If you actually trained mma you’d know that.

[–]coolcatsarecold0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No dude you were the idiot

[–]five_eight10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

In my world, you win some and you lose some. Right here, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

[–]paulkersey1999303 points304 points  (47 children) | Copy

i love this! she is being HONEST. that's what red pill is SUPPOSED to be about. i wish everyone was this honest. you pussies would rather have women lie and say "i love weak, cowardly men who play video games all day and are all talk and no action."?

women like STRONG men. they can't help it. it's in their dna. you have no right to be angry at them for this, just like nobody has any right to be angry at men for liking pretty, feminine women with firm tits and asses. if you criticize women for liking what you are NOT, then you are no different than the fat, fugly "feminists" who bitch about men not being attracted to them.

EDIT; i'm not criticizing the fact that the guy instinctively put his arms up to protect himself. i totally understand and maybe it's unreasonable for her to feel that this was a sign of weakness, but there is nothing LOGICAL about sexual attraction. it takes place subconsciously. it's an evolutionary response. cave women knew they couldn't defend themselves and their children against caveMEN who wanted to rape them so they found the caveman who they believed would protect them to be their mate, which makes perfect sense.

metaphorically speaking, this woman saw "her caveman" get beaten by another caveman and her subconscious told her "this guy can't protect you and your babies, find someone else who can." is it logical? no. is it practical in our civilized, non-caveman society? no. but it's how women are and i think this woman has a lot of guts to admit it. most of them lie their asses off about this subject.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper87 points88 points  (2 children) | Copy


This is an illustration of the reason we decided to put a "no moralizing" rule. It is so easy to fall into the trap of oh, no, this is an evil, bad, ruthless woman... just as women frequently fall into the trap of thinking we are evil for being attracted to teenage girls.

But the truth is that instincts are ruthless, period. Nakamoto, in this conversation, is just the messenger.

But what can we learn from this?

Well, two things. Since we are interacting with women's instincts, not their character, we should never try to reason with them, in speech or action. Don't talk, don't negotiate, push the buttons.

Also, try to avoid women who are highly successful in fields males compete in. Why? Because they demand more from you with nothing more to offer to you. This holds true even if that success is largely fake. Nakamoto, for example, is incapable of defeating, in a fistfight, the vast majority of men reading this comment. She's a 135lb woman who fights other 135lb women. If a girl has a degree from Harvard, she's not going to be able sustain attraction to your state-school self, even if you're a successful engineer, and her degree is in psychology and she never did anything with it. If a girl has a huge income, she's going to be turned off by your middle class salary, even if what she gets comes from investments daddy left her.

Women need to look up to you to be attracted to you, and more they are put on a pedestal, not just by you, but by society, the harder it is for them to look up to you. That's not them being "bad", it's just the way they are wired, and they have no more control over it than you do over what makes your dick hard.

There are plenty of beautiful, kind, loving, and supportive women who don't have MMA titles, or Harvard degrees, or daddy's money. Don't waste your time.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

But what can we learn from this?

100:1 says she likes to have her hair pulled and get choked while getting dicked down by a caveman.

[–]liquorbaron27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's at the bare minimum. You'd probably have to actually land a few body shots on her as well when you're having brutal sex with her. Wouldn't be surprised if she stated that if she didn't get bruised up during sex then it wasn't good sex.

[–]cupshadow11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Nobody is complaining that she is honest, its just woman being open about their hypergamy is still a rare sight.

[–]paulkersey19999 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

maybe the reason it's a rare sight is because they will be attacked if they do.

[–]MajesticPresentation3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just because it's natural doesn't mean what she said is any less retarded

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

straight up.

This girl just sounds ridiculous. whatever the reason for it, regardless of it being true. she sounds ridiculous.

[–]rajeshdangala142 points143 points  (21 children) | Copy

Are you a retard? Or have you never fought someone in a cage? When someone's ground and pounding you, your hand involuntarily raises up to protect your head. World champions get ground and pounded and they raise their hands up! What's that guy supposed to do? Let the other guy hit his head and commit suicide inside the cage. STOP WHITEKNIGHTING! This bitch is a thundercunt. There's a reason why she's 43 and still single. No one, not even a ufc world champion can satisfy her because even if you're a world champion, once you get knocked out or get ground and pounded, this bitch is done with you. She's a fucking psycho. She'll be alone with her cats when she's 80.

[–]KristianSlayter16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

He’s not white knighting her. He’s explaining it from an evolutionary stand point. Stop being emotional.

[–]sparkyyy13374 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yet it could take the fucking animal 5 seconds of rational thought which she apparently isn't capable of. The guy is already a better fighter than 99.99% of men just for being a professional fighter. He would absolutely ravage everyone in this comment section with one arm only.

[–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman7948 points49 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about whether it's valid or not. It's a display of instincts. It doesn't matter that the guy is still strong and brave.

The same way a guy will say that he is attracted to firm tits, but obviously after a pregnancy those tits will fall. It doesn't matter if the girl is still young, beautiful and fertile. His instinct will be to find her less attractive.

Also, don't throw the words 'retard' and 'whiteknighting' around just because you disagree with a comment. He clearly wasn't defending her behaviour, he was rightfully pointing that it's a good thing we can see their true nature. Makes you sound like a retard..

[–]TheGweatandTewwible12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the same thing I got from this vid, as well. Yeah, shes being honest but the bigger point is that this cunt cannot be satisfied no matter what lol

Now that I think about it, women are experts at rationializing in the weirdest ways. It makes more sense that he was displaying beta behaviour before (notice how she says how nice/awesome he was) and that that fight really turned her off and in her head she's like "I guess that's why I've been feeling so turned off". I'm not even sure if she's been honest but she definitely believes it.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp35 points36 points  (13 children) | Copy

What you're saying is true, but if you ever get in a fight in front of your girl and you lose or get embarrassed, shits over. Might as well end the relationship there. She'll probably start to have sexual thoughts about the guy who fucked you up too (there was a post in another sub (auto-mod won't let me name it for some stupid reason) about a girl confessing to sexually fantasizing about a guy who kicked her boyfriends ass). This is why I always advocate training MMA and lifting hard. It's a massive confidence booster when you feel physically strong and capable of defending yourself against anyone.

[–]1by1is320 points21 points  (10 children) | Copy

Only works in societies with strong central government that punishes violence with massive jailtime.

MMA or lifting is not going to help anyone in most societies, because you can beat up some guy and next day he comes back with his homies armed to the teeth and fucks you and your family up. In most societies, having powerful, armed allies count more than muscles or melee skills.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm talking about it in the context of physically protecting your girl in a confrontation in order to retain attraction, not in the broader context of protecting yourself or your own life.

Couldn't disagree more with your point anyways, MMA and Lifting always helps. Even if you live in south side Chicago which almost no one on reddit does. Maybe having armed allies helps more, but saying MMA/Lifting doesn't help at all is delusional.

[–]1by1is34 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not saying it does not help if you know MMA or you are muscular, I am merely saying that you are overrating it.

And even MMA fighters don't want to get into a streetfight. There are no rules in a street fight, and stabbing, poking the eye, or kicking the balls, or using a rod is pretty common. Most people will simply avoid a fight unless stakes are very high. In that situation, as long as you hold your ground without retreating or even fighting, you will not lose respect.

Once again, I am talking about societies where government is not there to enforce the law.

You are thinking that a confrontation only begins and ends 1v1, this only happens in a cage. In most places, if you beat someone up after harassing their wives, they will come back the next day with a dozen other men to beat you up. This is why in a lot of these places, harming or attacking women is forbidden in an unspoken rule because shit can get bloody really fast in a tribal feud if women are harmed, as that brings dishonor for the men.

[–]Psycholephant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do both. It has priceless effects on my confidence. He's definitely not overrating it.

[–]JManRomania0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A fat fuck can throw a fentanyl bomb through your window, or burn your house down. Area weapons are a force multiplier.

[–]Nicolas06310 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Even there, it is much more effective to have an army that will stand for you than being strong yourself.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No shit. Did you even read what I said?

[–]zUltimateRedditor5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

That’s what gets me so upset about this.

A guy can lift and train his whole life, but all it takes is a retard with a gun to to put one bullet in him and it all goes away.

I hate guns man, guns are for pussies. Fight like a real man.

Since when did guns become associated with masculinity?

[–]Nicolas06314 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah the pray must think the same against the hunter: guns are lame.

Except that you dislike them so much because they are so effective, mostly.

But only weak mens rely on physical strength or holding a gun themselve to achieve anything. Smart men focus on having others doing the dirty work done for them and ideally ensure that nobody ever know that it was their will and them being in command.

Read the 48 laws of power.

[–]JManRomania2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hate guns man, guns are for pussies. Fight like a real man.

lol fuck disabled people and the elderly amirite

guns are an equalizer

[–]SaberSpyder5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

shhh dont tell the truth. here the supposedly red pill guys dont actually like the truth. I'm 180lbs and 10% bf, im jacked probably more than most people here ever will be and i still dont get the importance of muscle people here put. i know my 315 incline bench pr and 5 years of mma experience wont stop a bullet to the back of my head.

[–]hopelesshotel0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

can you find a way to name it i want to see the post

[–]Enlightened_Chimp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]mediandirt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not that he tried to defend himself but how he did it. Her and Joe are basically saying he defended himself like a bitch when he was under duress. He did not defend in a way fighters are trained to defend. Extending your arms and fingers out like that is not how any fighter is trained to defend. All his training went out the window when it got to rough for him and that's what ruined it for her. Had he clenched, been straight up knocked out, or gone about it in a way befitting his training then it probably wouldn't have bothered her.

But, regardless the relationship might have still ended and it's definitely smarter to listen to a woman's actions then her words! Just trying to pass on a little bit of clarity about what her and Rogan were getting at.

[–]Klaatu67827 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is great. Yeah the resentment and weird unresolved oedipal complexes on this sub is crazy- it's like some dudes want to dictate to women what they "should" be attracted to, and what they should be attracted to is them. As men, a lot of us want women who are pretty, slender, and have a warm feminine disposition, and likewise a lot of women want men who are masculine, strong, and able to lead them in a relationship. True gender equality and fairness is letting each sex be attracted to whatever they're attracted to without being resentful and demonizing the other sex as mean and shallow because a specific person doesn't want to fuck you.

[–]paulkersey199913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

exactly! these guys believe ALL WOMEN SHOULD WANT THEM and love them unconditionally (like their mommies did) even though they have nothing to offer women. women are NOT going to go against their nature and like you just because you think they should. and no, i'm not saying a lot of women don't do the exact same thing to men, but we all bitch when they do it and then go ahead and do the exact same thing to them.

[–]muricanwerewolf117 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Nobody’s really mad she’s being honest, but she is unreasonable. Her anecdote basically means she only wants a man who never loses, in a sport like cage fighting. Just as a casual fan of the sport I’ve seen incredible athletes embarrassed. If we expand this mindset to a world outside fighting, any man that takes an L once is weak? I’d argue a man who never loses would be the “weak, cowardly man” not a freaking cage fighter who caught a bad break.

I agree that women like strong men, except, you know, when they don’t. I know too many women shacked up with narrow wristed dorks to think that’s a hard and fast rule. The true lesson to learn here is a woman’s reality is entirely based on feelings, no matter how irrational those feelings are.

[–]mediandirt-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I kind of clarified it in another comment but neither Rogan nor her are talking about him losing the fight killing her attraction. It's the way he lost. While under duress he threw up his hands like a bitch in a way not befitting a trained fighter. There are many ways to defend yourself, and head, while being mauled and he did not do one of those.

Basically she and him are saying if he'd been knocked out straight up, defended himself properly, or really dug deep to fight back then it wouldn't have mattered. That's my take away from it.

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah I think you’re right, but I’d argue her perception of the situation is in question and her judgment overly harsh. It’s an uncommon man to take a righteous beating and not lose his composure, and that’s not taking into account the fact that if you get battered to the edge of consciousness you’re very likely going to lose it completely.

I dunno, maybe it’s the world of MMA and I just don’t understand that level of machismo but I live in a world where grown men start to shake when you exhibit any aggression whatsoever, this guy gets a pass from me.

[–]mediandirt2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, as her status increases in the world of MMA so does her expectations. Just cause you give someone a pass or an excuse doesn't mean a women should or will accept it. Women date above them and men below.

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mmm, well her expectations are never gonna be met, the man she wants is with women in their 20s. Which is of course the unfortunate result of female hypergamy, a woman who thinks she deserves that one in a million man and what she gets is cats.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agree. If all women were like this then the red pill wouldn’t exist. Can’t be mad at her, because ALL women think this way. The difference is she’s just more entitled

[–]paulkersey19990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

thanks. I don't fault her for being more entitled either. she is not an average woman. I don't know much about her, but she's obviously achieved some degree of success as a fighter. apparently she's famous (enough to be on rogan's show anyway). she's physically attractive. most women feel entitled and they haven't achieved shit.

[–]BitchesBrew_MF3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Noooooo really???? No shit Sherlock....

I don’t think that piece is what some have difficulty grasping. The thing that baffles them is that she’s fixated on what GLO would call the “symbolic alpha”. Aside from that, just another mid 40s bitch with inflated standards, nothing new if you’ve had eyes opened at this point.

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it's an evolutionary response. cave women knew they couldn't defend themselves and their children against caveMEN who wanted to rape them so they found the caveman who they believed would protect them to be their mate, which makes perfect sense.

How then you do explain evolution selecting for intelligence vs pure strength?

[–]daddysash0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No idea why I had to scroll so far down this thread for this comment.

The whole point of the red pill is understanding the truth of the world around you. So why when this truth is shown to you you shy away from it or get angry? Embrace it and make the changes in your own life to deal with it.

[–]paulkersey19991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks. I think my comment should be the first one anybody sees because that's what red pill is supposed to be about. there can't be a double standard for red pill principals. they have to apply the same for everyone. the guys on here talking shit about this woman's honest (and brave) comments are hypocrites.

[–]Grek270 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You're confusing winning a fistfight with actual mattering in society, if this represents women then most are truly below the sentience of the average man.

The guys with the highest kill counts are easily Oppenheimer and company.

[–]paulkersey19992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

no i'm not. i'm trying to explain how attraction works in the real world.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s like 5 different red pills displayed in this video lol

Her future is finding some safe “smart” guy, make his life living hell, and cheat on him with side fighter dick

She’s a display of the more a woman climbs the smaller her dating pool. Good luck going the navy seal route though

[–]watchguy4525 points26 points  (14 children) | Copy

Question for you guys - how do you go about killing all weaknesses?

I’ve shown weakness to women and never never never againj

Edit - I’m asking this question specifically about women. For example - you fall in love or get oneitis, there are men that keep frame and there are men that CANT.

how do you become a man that can keep frame even with strong emotions for a woman?

[–]skywalkinondeezhatrz44 points45 points  (1 child) | Copy

killing all weaknesses 😂😂😂😂 a strong frame requires weaknesses or you'd never be able to constantly refine and improve your frame. To think you have it "all figured out" at any point in life is pure ego and anyone who says otherwise is a goof.

[–]PinacoladaSauce63 points64 points  (5 children) | Copy

You don’t kill weakness. You own it

[–]__TheDon__30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy

You own what you can’t change, and work on things you can change.

[–]Duchat15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

and the wisdom to know the difference

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The lesson I take from this is to just accept that nothing is permanent. You can’t be perfect which means you can’t ever keep a woman forever. You can accept that and enjoy the time you have with them, or refuse to accept it and continue to be burned when they leave you.

You can’t help that you love a woman. It’s a feeling; you can’t stop it. And you can’t help that it’s going to hurt when it ends. But you can let go of the fantasy that it wasn’t supposed to end.

[–]flying-backflip10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

the reality is we're all going to have weaknesses of flaws. You can mitigate a lot of them and build mental toughness like rogan points out, but there will always be strengths and weaknesses of character.

[–]bilabrin8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't allow other people's opinions about you be your basis for your own opinions about yourself. If you are weak, fix it or accept it. Just be up front and if they don't like it, you've screened them and you go talk to someone else.

Don't grade the terrain, map the terrain.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't grade the terrain, map the terrain.

Could you expand on this? it sounds interesting. I think you might be onto something.

[–]bilabrin5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, that's a phrase I came up with meaning "don't try to change a person or change yourself for a person. Meet more people, maybe a LOT of new people with that same effort and you'll find someone who already has what you were trying to achieve.

The analogy would be, instead of just taking some plot of land and moving tons of dirt around to make it the way you want, just look around for a plot that already has the features you want.

[–]nayvote5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't fall for a girl. Love is a myth you've been conditioned to believe in. Stop believing in it. No matter how much you think you love her, always know that if you lived with her, within a year or two you would be sick of her, and she of you.

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[–]SaberSpyder6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yup checked her IG, she has a double chin and dont get me wrong i LOVE a fit woman who works out but she has veins and cuts in all the WRONG places, they just remind me of a 70 year old grandma that has wrinkled up skin.

[–]dpgproductions10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

She’ll end up settling for someone who’s a fraction of the man she’s complaining about and pretend like she was cool with the idea all along

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

And she will make that guys life a living hell while getting dicked down on the side by other fighters

[–]Grek2777 points78 points  (7 children) | Copy

I always laugh at these MMA idiots.

In 20 years most of them will be broke and with dementia.

[–]liquorbaron10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

They better hope that WWE gravy train still cares.

[–]IAmBotJesus8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Joe is absolutely making fun of this chick on the DL. He always talks a certain way to people he thinks are idiots.

[–]onforspin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Guarantee there are plenty of mma fighters that are more intelligent than you.

[–]plastic-watering-can1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Won't matter when they have dementia

[–]onforspin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Shows your ignorance when you believe all fighters will end up with dementia

[–]DTron233213 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most men will find her dominant and masculine demeanor unattractive, and it makes sense. All women desire a man that’s more powerful than them, and that doesn’t back down from anyone else.

With her of course it’s extremely amplified, her ego is probably too big to handle. Most men see her as a good fuck, but she’s the kind of girl that will try to 1 up you all the time. It isn’t worth it, girls like that are just trouble and a headache. Fuck them and dump them. This girl will settle with a beta billy in a few years or so.

[–]ogkushinjapan7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Miriam is the career woman CEO of the fighting world. Wants a CEO husband but doesn't realize the choices CEO men have.

Why date a fighting girl when there's a thousand ring girls and groupies at your disposal?

[–]VisiblePlan5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Joe Rogan has inadvertently redpilled so many people. If we could get Uncle Vas or GLO on his show we could change the fucking world.

[–]letmereadthatshit5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The goal of this post is not to analyze the fight and why he put his hands up like that. It's to prove that hypergamy is strong as fuck and real. Her man got beat the fuck up and she lost attraction and now she's looking for stronger men. Simple. What's so hard to understand , it's not like women are logical If you visit trp regularly this is something you already should've known.

[–]dasCooDawg5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine if a guy said something like that about his ex on a popular podcast

[–]Rodders884 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Or an intelligent guy” So it’s ok for him to be a pussy as long as he can support her financially so she can fuck someone else.

[–]1by1is39 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

She didn't dump him because he showed weakness. She dumped him because he was always a nice guy and that image of him losing a fight like that was the straw that broke the camel's back, especially when she had won on the same day. She had a high opinion of herself (whether right or wrong) and she had a low opinion of her boyfriend (whether right or wrong). Women don't like men who they think are below them, who they think are losers. This is why she left him. She thought she was better than him. She thought he was a loser.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

A lower level fighter could ace her in fighting. There’s 1000 guys in my city who could ace her in Muay Thai. She’s an idiot.

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[–]liquorbaron9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

In this chick's case in the video she's basically stating she only wants to date other champion mma fighters. Her ex-bf wasn't good enough because he put his hands up to defend himself against getting knocked out; which is a completely reasonable reaction to do in mma even by the most alpha fighters that get rocked to the ground. He took a loss and it completely turned her off.

She wants to branch swing to something better. She wants a guy that doesn't lose in mma fights. I mean that's fine and all... but good luck. That pool of men is extremely small if in fact nonexistent. On top of it, even if there are a few of these men, there's a good chance they don't want a 43 year old woman; let alone a mma champion as though it's some sort of desirable trait or accomplishment in attracting men.

I don't think anyone here is outraged at her wanting what she wants. I think it's more of how completely delusional it is.

[–]mediandirt-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not that he lost. It's that he lost flailing his hands like a bitch instead of defending himself properly like a trained fighter should.

Another example would be two men about to be shot/executed while a girl watches. One man begs, grovels, cries, and snivels like a bitch and the other stays straight faced and accepts it. If both live the women is going to be more attracted to the one who stayed straight faced. It's as simple as that.

[–]liquorbaron5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not that he lost. It's that he lost flailing his hands like a bitch instead of defending himself properly like a trained fighter should.

Except she didn't say that at all. She said, "During the fight he almost gets knocked out. As the guy is mauling him..." and then proceeds to put her hands out like he's trying to block punches and move her head back "as you're falling to the canvas you need to go fuck you! You gotta take that like a champ."

No trained fighter is just going to just take punches to the head especially when they got rocked. I'm not sure what kind of mma fights you're watching were dudes don't put up their hands in defense of themselves.

She flat out says she wants a champ which is all fine and dandy but the small amount of guys fitting that bill aren't necessarily going to want a 43 year old fighting female. Anyhow this vid is good for showing how fucked up female hypergamy is.

[–]DopplerShiftIceCream4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

August 5, 1976 (age 43)

Hell yeah, let me get some of those dusty old velociraptor ovaries.

[–]pumpumstretcher3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like the way Joe handled this. He completely understands hypergamy and that this is not her being a bitch on purpose, it's just her nature and you have to accept that and not get angry about it.

I'm still working on that cause I'm mad at this girl.

[–]StereoFood17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah I’d love to date her and see her lose a fight. Then just dump her after because she lost. What a pussy. She can’t physically beat someone else up? Clearly the weaker genes and I can’t continue my progeny with that.

What a dumb primitive mindset to have. Smh

[–]SaberSpyder6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Theres a lesson WE MEN can learn in everything, even in women. This demonstrates the power of ABUNDANCE. She left him because when she was a little kid she realised she is a woman and has a pussy and that she could have dick at any fucking moment in her life untill the moment she stops breathing, she simply didn't lose anything when she broke up with him.

[–]ImAnNPCbabydududuDU0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why would that be a deal breaker for a man?

[–]StereoFood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It wouldn’t. I understand that a physical fight does not determine your self worth especially in this period of time. That’s the point. I just flipped the script and want her to see that basing attraction on physical strength alone is childish. Obviously there’s so much more to a person.

I guess that’s the difference between red pill and equality

[–]1Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

This girl has more red flags than communist china.

[–]bleubonbon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

for real made me laugh out loud

[–]inchains2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is type of chick that will ask where are all the good men once she hits the wall

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This bitch doesn't need to be alive. What a joke.

Maybe she got hit in the head too much.

[–]Domebeers53 points54 points  (24 children) | Copy

women don't like pussies? Is water still wet?

[–]ili_lost_MC82 points83 points  (14 children) | Copy

Are you stupid? Her Ex was/is a professional fighter, he's top 1% easily. Getting bested in a cage by another 1% dude doesn't make you a pussy by a thousand miles. No sane woman in the world will consider her partner a pussy after something like that, but this bitch is just beyond anything that is rational, that's why people take issue eith that.

[–]sea_weasel38 points39 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hahaha yeah, you'd think someone would explain to this woman what a fencing response is.

Your man isn't a coward, he just suffered a concussion and his body is desperately trying to protect itself against his will.

[–]8380atgmaildotcom4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

stop trying to think women think like men.

if you want someone who thinks logically, date a dude.

[–]ToraChan237 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

Getting bested in a cage by another 1% dude doesn't make you a pussy by a thousand miles.

If there is another guy that is better than you in her mind, you might as well be considered a pussy.

Whether it's another fighter who whoops your ass, another employee that gets a promotion over you, etc. Why would any woman worth her salt be with a loser when she could be with the winner?

[–]knightdarkponi6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your definition of loser is beyond absurd- you might as well say something ridiculous like why would she be with a millionaire when she could be with a billionaire. The thing is- she can't. First of all, she is 43 and is pretty much infertile and looks probably nowhere as good as when she was in her late teen/early 20's. Secondly, she has a very butch and masculine physique with no curves whatsoever.And thirdly, for someone who is literally almost near menopause and is probably infertile, she expects some Tyson Fury-like to make her swoon and become her bf/fuckbuddy/partner/whatever. NO man worth his salt, let alone a pro fighter that is undefeated, would as much as look at her annoying granny ass lol.Women definitely can date up by a lot, but let's not kid ourselves.

[–]ToraChan23-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

The thing is- she can't.

If women chose the men they wanted to be with on the basis of whether they "can" or "cannot" get him, the entire game wouldn't be how it is. 99% of women who love Brad Pitt could NEVER get him, but that doesn't stop them from swooning over him and being upset that the men they CAN get don't measure up.

You're expecting women to think logically when it comes to romance, but that's not the case.

First of all, she is 43 and is pretty much infertile and looks probably nowhere as good as when she was in her late teen/early 20's.

Yet still famous/hot/important enough to be interviewed by Joe Rogan, something only 1% of the population experiences.

Secondly, she has a very butch and masculine physique with no curves whatsoever.

By YOUR judgment. Again, she is hot/relevant enough to have enough clout to be on Joe Rogan's show, and seemingly has no problem getting men; just a problem getting the perfect man.

And thirdly, for someone who is literally almost near menopause and is probably infertile, she expects some Tyson Fury-like to make her swoon and become her bf/fuckbuddy/partner/whatever.

Why is this wrong? She can wish for whatever she wants; that's what women do.

[–]knightdarkponi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

" If women chose the men they wanted to be with on the basis of whether they "can" or "cannot" get him, the entire game wouldn't be how it is. 99% of women who love Brad Pitt could NEVER get him, but that doesn't stop them from swooning over him and being upset that the men they CAN get don't measure up.

You're expecting women to think logically when it comes to romance, but that's not the case."

You are indeed right- romance and love def do not abide by logic, but rather feelings, that includes men as well.Just because women swoon over Brad Pitt doesn't they won't accept anything less- there are a lot of average looking dudes with girlfriends that are near their looks level and they are both content with that until the inevitable moment where the relationship starts going dry. You don't need to be a 7'3 billionaire male model to get laid and have women swoon over you.

Yet still famous/hot/important enough to be interviewed by Joe Rogan, something only 1% of the population experiences.

I really doubt 70 million people have been interviewed by Joe Rogan. She got interviewed because she is an eight time Muay Thai world champion, which is a tremendous achievement and I'll give her that.

By YOUR judgment. Again, she is hot/relevant enough to have enough clout to be on Joe Rogan's show, and seemingly has no problem getting men; just a problem getting the perfect man.

Her being an exceptional fighter does not mean she'll get the men she wants- it's not like she's a fucking guy, her looks and personality matter a quite a lot-unfortunately, her looks are quickly fading away and she sounds like a Grade A twat. She'll keep waiting for the perfect man and when(if) she settles down, she won't be satisfied even though the poor fella who's now stuck with her is the one that has to settle down.

Why is this wrong? She can wish for whatever she wants; that's what women do.

You are right, but I or anyone else can point out how delusional her standards are and she's getting roasted by a shit ton amount of people for a reason- she's a stupid cunt with a massively inflated ego, as simple as that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly why you avoid relationships where this is likely to happen. I love challenging myself but don’t put yourself in a situation where you’ll be clowned. Also avoid work relationships because women’s hypergamy will just want the guy above you

[–]sparkyyy13370 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If he is a loser what are you? He'd kill you with one arm blind folded. Pussy loser!

[–]ToraChan231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you had a brain, you would know I wasn’t comparing him to me; I was comparing him to winning fighters, men of HIS world, not mine.

Move along, boy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just entitlement. Like the best WNBA player wouldn’t be attracted to a euro league basketball player or lower tier nba guy because she wants “her equivalent” not knowing that’s not how it works

It doesn’t matter that an average high school basketball player could beat her one on one.

Fighting is similar, she wants another champion because she is in her powder puff league.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are you stupid? You literally just watched a video of a girl calling her ex a pussy. You did watch the video, right? What colour is the sky in you world my man?

[–]ili_lost_MC1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh ok, I forgot she is literally the messanger of god and speaks absolute truth, so her calling him a pussy automatically makes him one, got it. What number shows on your IQ Results? Single Digits?

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean it's higher than yours, judging by your inability to grasp the situation.

I'm glad you think this guy isn't a pussy. She thinks he is a pussy. You understand that, right? Your IQ is high enough to grasp that she dumped your hero for being a pussy, notwithstanding your screaming in to the void that he is not in fact a pussy?

Do I have to dumb it down even further or are you following?

[–]bleubonbon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes but because they're both on the top small things stand out which is why she later mentions smarts because she wants someone who can best her if not in fighting then in smarts

[–]muricanwerewolf121 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Cage fighter”


Pick one

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

She literally cringed and broke up with the guy because she thought he was a pussy. Don't jump off a bridge over the news.

[–]SaberSpyder4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude the guy that she was talking about that got knocked out? He could kill you with his bare hands, shut the fuck up, this bitch is a backwards cunt, no-one can meet her standards, womens first and foremost biggest tool is their ego.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Guys best response is to just not go after women who have no idea their SMV is

But calling this guy a pussy when there might not be a man on earth who meets her standards is a bit much

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop being a pussy because this girl said your hero was a pussy. Stop crying because you don't like the nature of women, you are literally on a red pill site.

[–]TuckmyFruck6925 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

Waters not wet bro. It makes things wet

[–]ZeppKfw2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for this. Seeing the redpill irl is like "Yeah expected" but seeing the red pill in action on JRE is quite surreal.

[–]DrCleanMD2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd happily avoid her thinking there is some other guy who could be happier being involved with her than I ever could. wishing you the best! cya

[–]rollinterror6662 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha she was lucky someone was dating her at her age

[–]slip-down4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why all the hate. This is just simple side bar material. She's not being evil, just truthful. Just like everyone here wants to bang you femanine women. They want strong men, even if it's just perception of strength. If you find yourself feeling angry or bitter, go back to day one and read the side bar.

[–]BarbedAndWired1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

agreed. too many Men here are still in the anger phase of unplugging from the matrix

[–]guynpdx4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see her point. She saw him give up......NEVER FUCKING GIVE UP. She wants a man who will fight to the death, and she's right.

She might be a fun weekend, but definitely not wife material.

[–]Iamthespiderbro4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where does Roe get stunned? Guess I missed that part.

[–]PM_ME_UR_SHITS_GIRL1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not really. He seems pretty understanding of her point. I'm a big MR guy but I honestly don't see what's so wrong about this. She's talking about her own personal preferences as a champion Muay Thai fighter.

[–]mericastradamus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How did this video get out of quarantined and on my wall?

[–]gregpasion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shes 43 and still practicing her hypergamy? That reason alone will already tell you to stay away from this girl.

[–]SavvyVolley61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She talks about posturing turning her off, while she’s posturing right now.

Women fighting and dudes fighting are two different things, she has no right to judge him. She’s not an equal.

[–]machoking_your_gf3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The greatest irony is that if she was in there with the same dude mauling her boyfriend, she wouldn't last a minute.

[–]ImAnNPCbabydududuDU0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Alright, but from a mans perspective that wouldn't be a turnoff. For a woman like in this case it definitely can be. This is not about being logical.

[–]scorpionkinggg3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone’s complaining that she is being unreasonable but have you seen her fight? She actually is of that never give up mentality so she’s obviously going to project it on her boyfriend.

This is no different to Tony Ferguson calling his opponent a bitch because he was getting mauled on the ground without fighting back. Context people .

[–]casemodz4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn't even watch more than the first part where she talks about chicken necks. Straight up cunt.

[–]ZerglingKingPrime4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wow, this comment section is extremely incel-ish.

[–]Imadejust4this1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lotta people who don't know shit about fighting, the fencing response and have obviously never been in a fight gym talking mad shit rn because she touched on their insecurities lol

[–]BarbedAndWired0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

agreed. too many men here are unplugged yet still have AFC behavior. I had higher hopes for this sub

[–]Lamecobra1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

What's wrong with a slender neck?

[–]_DonDraper_5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not that good for fighting...

[–]BarbedAndWired0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

indicative of low testosterone

[–]HungryBrain11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Literally at no time was Joe Rogan stunned there are all.

[–]PaulMurrayCbr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The only way to get good at fighting is to do a lot of it. Same as getting good at anything else. Men who get into a lot of fights are usually criminals.

-- edit --

So, this person's ex was a professional fighter, which is one of the few ways to be good-at-fighting and not a crim. One of the other ways is to be a cop. But there's a lot more criminals out there than professional cage fighters, and that's what this woman is going to wind up with.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Whoever was in a fight and lost: those movements she described are typical reflex defensive behaviour mechanisms nothing to be ashamed of in my opinion. I wonder if there are any recording of her getting pummeled and going out with a 'fuck you'.

[–]TitySuker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Her Twitter account profile picture is a cat....can't make this up.

[–]redvelvet_oreo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Female nature at its peak level.

[–]blueroomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why would Anyone want this women in her life, she shows herself so completely. One fight and her emotionally damaged brain feels nothing but contempt. Why not give her to the real men then. See how much RESPEKT. She gets then

[–]KeeperOfSpirit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why a women will choose a contact sport in the first place? Then later in life she complain the men aren't enought men.

I think she choosed contact sport becasue of her childhood trauma.

[–]Gaysonofabitch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a go warm a bagel in the microwave and have sex with it.

[–]Sly_Saab_Guy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point here.. she left him because he acted like a coward in the rink while he covered himself up like a bitch. How could she ever be attracted to this man again when she sees him in his weakest/most vulnerable state and he basically gives up? She lost all respect for him in that moment as she knows that he cannot protect her if this situation were to arise outside of the rink (albeit a fighter level male attacked them).

To be short, don't back down or be a bitch/coward . Keep your manhood/frame even in the worst of situations

[–]whatdidshewrite-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

That’s not hypergamy. She didn’t leave him for someone better, she left him because he was inadequate

[–]BarbedAndWired1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i think it is hypergamy because she's inclined by instinct to find provisioning from someone who doesn't flinch during a beating

[–]cupshadow2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy and brach swinging are two different concepts.

[–]sparkyyy13370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you don't understand meanings of words and sentences.

[–]five_eight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If this smug narcissistic little asshole breaks her neck in a fight wonder if she'd be very particular who changes her colostomy bag.

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[–]ReckingFutard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Means that they inevitably feel disgust.

[–]Andrea_Arlolski-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this:

This thread signifies what's wrong with this sub. She's fucking right. All men should be so great as to go out on their shield. She wants a man who gives up at nothing. This is supposed to be a redpill value, but honestly when I read this sub sometimes I think it's a bunch of bitches instead.

[–]sparkyyy13371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's the matter? The guy would kill you blind folded. What does that say about you?

[–]ImAnNPCbabydududuDU0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's half of guys being in rage mode of redpill. Probably haven't read the sidebar or forgot it for a moment. They're not following the material acting like this at all. I guess the response should just be

Read the damn sidebar.

[–]Zech4riah-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is stunned because she got so turned off when her bf showed weakness...or to what are you referring with the title?

[–]thatMGTOWguy-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mgtow always tells me you RP guys are stupid as fuck and if you support or justify what this woman did, I can see why

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