Why are peopling connecting red pill to the alt-right?

Dimitry_The_Impaler · 2021-01-07T07:35:55+00:00

Because everybody who disagrees with the modern "yassss queen men are trash" narrative is a nazi fascist literally Hitler KKK cannibal

Every-Performance985 · 2021-01-07T12:34:34+00:00

scared soy boys plus alt-righters got those trad wife fantasies.

MazerTag · 2021-01-07T07:36:12+00:00

Because of all the idiot kids who come and flex around here, and all of the dudes still in anger phase who post long-winded rants about how women suck and libtards need to be pwned.

They aren't mischaracterizing anything from what you can read in the majority of posts here. The problem is that the majority of posts here have only surface-level commonality with TRP, and morons use it to justify their antisocial "storm the capitol" neckbeardery.

skuttt · 2021-01-07T15:15:30+00:00

Any dissent from the hive-mind is “alt-right”. Obviously this is myopic and simplistic, but that is what people think.

Happy to not be an NPC personally and don’t give a shit what NPCs call me.

70percentoff · 2021-01-08T06:55:31+00:00

There are red pulled leftists too

Game_Tight2020 · 2021-01-07T22:37:13+00:00

When I found this place in early 2016 it was full of trump supporting lunatics 🤷‍♂️

Probably still is and if you support a traitor that attacked our democracy I feel that is pretty alt right textbook definition.

It’s pretty easy to see that connection and form it from the outside looking in.

Someone goes on the red pill. Sees posts/comments similar to that of The Donald and boom. Red pill is now forever connected to the alt right.

In 2016 this place was huge. Almost mainstream. People saw the retard anger phase betas on here and formed their opinion based on that.

Bannedstiny · 2021-01-07T13:40:52+00:00

Because conservative-types tend to hang around these circles. There is a huge reactionary element in the community and anyone denying that is just straight up lying or delusional. Go read the people in denial, guarantee none of them have any love for anything to do with "the left."

namargolunov · 2021-01-07T08:22:58+00:00

Because simple people just loove labels and tribalism

BlondeHornyElf · 2021-01-07T13:22:43+00:00

becuz in reality sexual politics is at the heart of all politics and rollo is just an old lesbian who wants to complain about gynocentrism without actually doing anything about it

Reasonable-Sense-377 · 2021-01-07T16:02:32+00:00

Because anything progressive (and destructive) is left and anything traditional is right.

2021-01-07T16:20:32+00:00

binary thinking

lochjaww · 2021-01-07T21:18:18+00:00

It's a bigger problem than just red pill = alt-right. A single extreme individual identifies themselves with a group/belief, then the majority of people assume the whole group is that way instead of just inquiring about the actual belief/understanding. It's people being lazy and closed minded

aegeaorgnqergerh · 2021-01-07T22:04:11+00:00

Because a lot of "red pill" types are current or ex incels, and incels often have a proclivity to also following right-wing ideology. Even the term "red pill" is pretty cringy and along these lines.

I agree, that the two are not one and the same - wanting to get advice on how not to be an incel and generally become a more rounded, selfless, productive, and integrated member of society is the aim here, quite the opposite of "red pill" thinking. But it's clear that far too many people who follow the philosophy totally get the idea wrong, and basically turn towards right-wing ways of thinking, and indeed a few too many have right-wing political views.

I suppose its similar to how Jordan Peterson is seen as "alt right" and "anti-feminist" when his views are actually quite left-leaning, and very pro-feminist. It's his toxic fanbase that ruin this image.

beachbbqlover · 2021-01-08T00:01:48+00:00

'cause some of the mods were at the insurrection yesterday?

Protocol_Apollo · 2021-01-07T07:24:49+00:00

So banal.

Alt right is just a boogey man so people don’t associate with it, but that was so 2015.

There are new boogeyman terms people now use to discredit anti establishment thinking.

glowing_dolphins · 2021-01-07T11:15:18+00:00

Because America doesn’t have

1) proportional representation or

2) a fairness doctrine

their politics have become binary. This means that you need to fit into the red or blue bucket. “Alt right” is just “Red Plus”.

It has also caused the segregation of media, so that one side does not appreciate the nuance of the other. Labels and identity politics have precedence over policy, solutions and competence.

Basically, you’re running a version 1.0 democracy, and need an upgrade.

urbanfoh · 2021-01-07T11:21:01+00:00

What does the red pill preach?

Accept your genetic shortcomings or advantages, work hard to improve, stop whining and making a victim of yourself, ignore mainstream bullshit, go against political correctness.

A lot of these red pills tenets resemble traditional masculinity and are therefore in opposition to the lefts notion of "progress" . In that sense trp is "right".

allahyardimciol · 2021-01-07T13:39:24+00:00

Because the red pill is basically an ideology. Many things taught here are things which change your world view. TRP is somewhat naturalistic (winner takes it all, you need to work for your dreams, equality is an unrealistic ideal etc.). Some points of the red pill align with conservative or even alt right views. That doesn't mean you have to be alt right just because you believe in some red pill teachings.

Terdmuffin · 2021-01-07T08:03:54+00:00

Becauase a lot of alt right dudes are into trp type of thinking...why is this hard to understand?

Spartawolf · 2021-01-07T10:31:44+00:00

Because many on the left blame others for their problems, and are into virtue signalling feminism and believe in toxic masculinity. While it is possible to have left wing redpillers, there is too much conflicting ideology to make that more common place.

gcaa99 · 2021-01-07T17:25:21+00:00

Alt right doesn't exist in today's world. That's what the left call conservatives to invalidate everything they say.

Right wing is based on logic, red pill is based on logic. Left is based on emotions, blue pill is based on emotions.

Most beta cucks are leftists, and the only way they can "insult" Chad's and red pill personnel is by calling them Nazis or alt-right

robot3000_02 · 2021-01-08T00:24:55+00:00

Because sex marketplace is the purest and rawest application of capitalist economic theory you can have, and as a beta male, it really resonates. Best teacher of supply and demand you will get in your life.

User36474746 · 2021-01-08T00:56:46+00:00

Well, MGTOW and Red Pillers are mostly conservatives let's be real here.

GloomySpeech · 2021-01-09T04:19:16+00:00

The red pill is individualist, so it threatens the far left. For the far left, any disagreement is far right.

The woke cancel culture is socialist, and socialists always use strawmans, hate speech, demonization, ad hominem, and any malicous tactic to discredit the opponent, because on logical grounds, socialism had been totally crushed, and has no argument.

On the 60's, socialists intellectuals, noticed the propagandist failure of communism, in western nations, and decided to implement Antonio Gramsci theories.

Antonio Gramsci is one of the main creators of Critical Theory as a way to subvert democracies.

Critical theory states that any individualism has to be destroyed, to turn people into blank mental states, so they accept socialism. Communists thought that homosexuality was a destructive force, so they raised to power intellectual schools following the lesbian activist Simone de Beauvoir.

Gramsci stated that socialist propaganda needed to achieve Cultural Hegemony, to control the public discourse.

Cultural hegemony uses total control of public opinion, newspapers, TV, cinema, schools, universities. So the socialists imposed themselves the objective of taking control of all those institutions, and they were successful. Today, most of those western institutions are under socialist control.

Their objective is to destroy any self individuality, like sex identification, nationality, religion, etc. That's why they want to impose the theory of "blank state", which denies any biological influence on sexual behavior, and they demonize and destroy historical figures, national heroes, statues, flags. They declare that anything is a "social construct", so it is invalid, and then they impose their own social construct, which of course, is socialism.

They have forced in government and private companies, the teaching of Critical Race theory, whose purpose is to shame people into self censorship, meanwhile simultaneously creating resentment and entitlement.

They finance fascists groups like Antifa, sexists groups like the feminists, racist doctrines like Critical Race theory, etc. Those are purposely contradictory, as Antonio Gramsci proposed, to confuse people. For example, they brainwash imposing a racist doctrine, naming it "antiracism", so people gets so confused and scared that they become people incapable of individual thinking, and they accept whatever doctrine the media controlling the "cultural hegemony" tells them to adhere.

They want to create conflict, to divide any resistance, and to create a combustible environment, which they plan to trigger to start the communist revolution.

That's why they make people believe in outrageous "rights" to abuse other people, and make everybody feel entitled to privileges, and a victim. They generate confrontation between races, sexes, nationalities, religions, natives vs immigrants, poor vs rich, gays vs heterosexuals, children vs parents, and any class vs class conflict they can create.

Meanwhile TRP is right about feminine nature, it is generally oblivious to the fact that feminism had been taken control by cultural marxism, and for it TRP is simultaneously an intellectual threat, but also an opportunity to create conflict and social disintegration.

You have to be aware of the political battle, but also you need to tell the difference between RP an politics.

A shit test is female nature. It has nothing to do with politics. A woman babbling about "the patriarchy", is politics. Both things resonate, and feed each other, but they are different things.

Women are naturally difficult to deal, for evolutionary reasons, but that's also boosted by Cultural Marxism. Most of TRP is oblivious to the politics, and blame everything on female nature. That's naive, but also, our individual interest as men have nothing to do with politics.

We want to fuck. The socialists want to fuck with us. Our focus is sex. Socialists want to use us as pawns.

It is in our interest to stay away from politics, but politics do not want to stay away from us.

slappysq · 2021-01-07T17:26:22+00:00

Because physically fit people are more likely to be right wing.

shittyfuckdick · 2021-01-07T17:53:35+00:00

The group everyone they disagree with under one label.

quijote3000 · 2021-01-07T11:21:27+00:00

I don't see red pill people using at-right ideology, whatever that may be, since it's used more as an insult nowadays

I think it's more coming for articles attacking TRP. So when an article comes talking about it, like a feminist article criticizing it, first they say TRP, and they quickly add, "they hate women, are related to al-right, and are incels"

jayboog5000 · 2021-01-07T12:44:16+00:00

Almost all argumentation strategies of leftists and other insane types are feminine argumentative strategies, which rely on non linear non rational and non logical perspectives and techniques, meaning most people cant even argue a position without resorting to female argumentation tactics such as goal post moving, insults, non sequitur fallacies, labeling, grouping, out group shaming, etc it's an example of the low IQ of the average person and the (success) failure of public schools combined with brainwashing in these female argumentation tactics

IntrepidLawyer · 2021-01-07T17:24:36+00:00

Because we're based as fuck and we don't care to make libtards cry.

Comes with the territory.

GloomySpeech · 2021-01-07T10:24:53+00:00

The alt right is a strawman made by the left, to paste together everything they don't like.

Even the nazis are pasted there as "far right", when in reality the nazis were socialists, and the leftists are the real nazis.

It is a social control tactic that uses shame and ostracization to suppress free speech, by pretending that a woke minority decides public opinion.

Title	Why are peopling connecting red pill to the alt-right?
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