USA's Women's Olympic Hockey team loses to Boy's high school hockey teams

born_to_end · 2015-08-31T15:30:27+00:00

I'm from the UK and fed up of constantly hearing about Womens Football (Soccer) and the various arguments about why its wrong that they don't earn as much or get the same respect as male footballers.

Anyone who knows anything about soccer and is not deluding themselves knows exactly why this is. It is because the professional male footballers earning the big money are the absolute elite at what they do. And millions of people worldwide are prepared to pay good money to watch sport played at that elite level. Like the OP story, Womens International level football is the equivalent of mens non-league football in terms of standard, skill and entertainment. There could NEVER, ever be a woman that could play soccer like Messi, Ronaldo etc. Or even to lower league standard. The same applies to any other male dominated sport or discipline. And that is an axiomatic fact.

I have no problem with women playing the same sports as men, good luck to them if thats what they want to do. But spectator sports are, by definition, there for the entertainment of the masses. I pay hundreds of pounds a year to watch Premier League football because its worth every penny. I wouldn't pay a fiver to watch womens football because it simply isn't anywhere near as entertaining. Its embarrassing, in fact. But the media here is constantly going on about how talented these ~~lesbians~~ women are and why its unfair that they don't earn the same fame and fortune as the men.

I could get onto female football fans as well here but that is another thread entirely.

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CptFizz · 2015-08-31T14:38:53+00:00

This is my favorite:
Karsten Braasch is a German former professional tennis player. His highest ATP singles ranking was World No. 38, which he reached in June 1994. His career-high in doubles was World No. 36, achieved in November 1997. He was well-noted for his service motion and his habit of smoking during changeovers. Braasch competed in a "Battle of the Sexes" contest against Venus Williams and Serena Williams at the 1998 Australian Open when he was ranked 203. A decade and a half older than the sisters, Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager." He nonetheless defeated both sisters, playing a single set against each, beating Serena 6–1 and Venus 6–2.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19980127&id=kqJjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mggGAAAAIBAJ&pg=3506,5011601

kazcovic · 2015-08-31T14:12:19+00:00

It really isn't surprising that men are better than women at sports because of the obvious natural physical strength. What I find surprising is that men are also consistently better than women in chess.

L0rdMaul117 · 2015-08-31T15:36:15+00:00

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Cmon_Just_The_Tip · 2015-08-31T14:37:35+00:00

My favorite: https://youtu.be/GRB2QTP8DpU

randarrow · 2015-08-31T14:11:32+00:00

Male on female fights, even with supposedly feminine 'men' end badly

jewishclaw · 2015-08-31T15:40:33+00:00

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DaPhanthom · 2015-08-31T14:00:27+00:00

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What is this?

kanji_sasahara · 2015-08-31T14:36:19+00:00

Didn't something similar happen to the Williams sisters when they played someone ranked outside the top 200 in men's tennis? I know that when Annika Sorenstam, one of the most successful players on the LPGA tour, was allowed to play a unimportant PGA tournament and missed the cut finishing 96th. I don't think any of the top players at the participated, but I could be wrong.

Edit: A word.

PlayerXz · 2015-08-31T21:43:19+00:00

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L0rdMaul117 · 2015-08-31T15:11:42+00:00

lol, hahahaha. So true. I got a story that's like this.

Background on me a bit, I played D2 basketball at a very good D2 program. I wasn't a beast tho, and never played a ton. I was on the roster all 4 years and recruited out of HS, but I wasn't a good college player. PG, 6'2" about 190ish. I rode the bench was a role player most of the time. I did see minutes by Jr. and some of my sr. years tho.

Anyway's, I played Diana Taurasi in 1 v. 1 one time, well two times. To 11 by 1's, no 3 point BS, win by two make it take it after 4.

First game I beat her 11-3 and dunked on her 3 times.

So she, like a typical girl, makes excuses. About the ball, I was using a real ball, not the youth hoops ball they use in WNBA.... So 2nd game we use her ball and play 11 again, same rules. But we don't do make it take it.

I win. 11-4. But I don't think I dunked on her that time.

Strongbhoy · 2015-08-31T15:54:12+00:00

Minnesotan here, can confirm (they play our hockey teams too).

Also, US women's soccer loses (and these were their best ever teams) to high school boys teams, the last 100m record for the women in the Olympics was the U15 boys record in like 1985.

Rousey is doing it for publicity, she doesn't even like to get hit in the face by women.

Air4ce1 · 2015-08-31T15:57:15+00:00

I saw a similar story like this when I first arrived on TRP about a year and a half ago. The differences in men and women in sports is astounding. While all my evidence is anecdotal it has solidfied my position on the matter nonetheless.

My high school basketball team would regularly scrimmage the girls. This wasn't done for our benefit at all because playing girls is similar to playing little kids. (A little caveat girls playing against guys does get them a lot better. Just look at the best WNBA players and most of them are good because they played with their older brothers or fathers). Anyways, playing against girls is absolutely terrible. They will bite, claw, scratch and hit you in the nuts just to steal the ball. It's pretty much their true selves in physical display.

My team mate has a younger sister who now plays D1 at the highest level. I asked him about it the other day and he said that he literally taught her everything she knows. Of course, he destroys her everytime they play together but it just goes to show that even being half as good will get you to be at the top on a woman's scale. My teammate isn't really anything flashy or special he's a solid player that works hard and is efficient, not even a start on our team, but he created a superstar at the collegiate level.

seattleron · 2015-08-31T22:57:54+00:00

Not a peep out of any news media source. NOT A PEEP.

Had this been the other way around, hell hath no fury.

[deleted] · 2015-08-31T14:03:14+00:00

Haha, upvoted for pure schadenfreude.

cazzah123 · 2015-08-31T15:24:45+00:00

I had an argument about this recently.

Some woman was complaining about the wage differences in men and woman soccer players. I tried to explain to her that people want to watch the best soccer at the highest level, thats what brings viewers and sponsors in, and woman just cant provide that.

She couldn't understand just how much of a difference there is between the two.

Take the best womans soccer team in the world and place them against a b-league teams YOUTH TEAM, they are still going to get fucking destroyed.

eaton80 · 2015-08-31T14:22:26+00:00

That darned Patriarchy wins again! [shakes fist]

riding_stoned · 2015-08-31T16:21:04+00:00

Why do you think that Ronda Rousy is afraid of fighting Fallon Fox? She's just being realistic, she knows she would be trashed.

And yet, Business Insider names Ronda Rousey the 'the most dominant athlete alive'.

Unplug from the mainstream media: that's the first step to swallowing the red pill. It's been over a decade since I owned a TV.

Edit: for grins, you might want to watch the celebrity boxing match between Joey Buttafuoco and "Chyna" Joanie Laurer. Before the match, "Chyna" talks about how she's going to trash Joey on behalf of women everywhere, because he's scum, but then she gets thrown around like a rag doll by an out-of-shape, overweight male in his 40s.

MrAlester · 2015-08-31T15:51:38+00:00

Ex GF was studying to be a PE teacher. She supposedly trains her body everyday (paraphrasing her), unlike me a lazy engineer.

She took special pride on her swimming skills, and got very sour when she pushed a swimming race against me and lost.

In her mind she was a top athlete among her peers, and didn't care that I train every single day and I enjoy running marathons, rock climbing and do halterophilia (dont know how to translate, sorry).

the99percent1 · 2015-09-01T00:38:42+00:00

This Kaarsten guy is hardcore amused mastery!

His story is stuff made of legend..

Smoking during interchanges, one serve handicaps, & playing like a ranked 600th player. Any guy would take this challenge seriously or let the girl win.. But this, he just took the piss out of it.

http://www.wearetennis.com/en_UK/#/2013/04/09/karsten-braasch-the-smoker-who-ridiculed-the-williams-sisters/1487

This is what he said after the match.

My advice if you're ever in a position to play a match of this nature is be patient - don't be annoyed or surprised if your match against the Williams sisters is cancelled, as they both have very busy schedules. My game against them had to be re-organised at least a couple of times. Preparation is crucial. Remember that a game like this is light-hearted - taking it too seriously would be a mistake. My training regime consisted of a leisurely round of golf in the morning followed by a couple of shandies. I turned up on court feeling suitably laid-back...

And here is the punchline..

... Apparently, after the game, Serena and Venus immediately told the press they wanted to challenge a male player again. This time they revised the ranking of the man they wanted to face, to 350 in the world. I informed the journalist who told me this that in the next week I was set to lose a lot of ATP points and drop down to 350 in the rankings. I told him that if Venus and Serena waited just one week they could challenge me all over again

SatisfiedMan · 2015-08-31T14:26:55+00:00

It's not the "world view" though, just the "western world view."

inspiringpornstar · 2015-08-31T16:15:21+00:00

"Women can fight alongside men in war" I don't disagree but how well are they going to do in hand to hand or when they're taken hostage and raped. Or say hiking a dozen miles with a 60 pound plus pack.

TheBredditor · 2015-08-31T18:34:28+00:00

I can confirm this. My high school team (in Minnesota) scrimmaged the US Women's National team when I was a senior in 2004, and we kicked their asses. Like 9-2 or something like that, and both of their goals came because our goalies were fucking around and gave up super soft goals.

rebuildingMyself · 2015-08-31T15:56:55+00:00

The MMA fighter boast is safe because we'll probably never see a fair match between her and a male MMA fighter (other than Hollywood where she'll have magical athletic abilities)

Hunter2isit · 2015-08-31T18:36:32+00:00

Oh don't forget that because they were playing high school kids they weren't playing at their best / didn't want to get hurt / it was all for fun / different rules and sized rink / hamster

Hatehype · 2015-08-31T19:39:59+00:00

I'm really surprised no one has given a reason for men surpassing women in most categories, including non-athletic ones such as chess. Men have more genetic variation then women, so the extremes of intelligence and physical prowess are both higher and lower for men than women.

[deleted] · 2015-08-31T23:05:11+00:00

There's a reason that we have women's sports. It's because women can't compete. We already knew this and women already know this.

Was it last year that a woman was in the news for winning a marathon against men? Oh, and they gave her a 17 minute ad 41 second head start.

Oh and she got a 50k bonus for it too.

Feminism has always been about advancing women's interests. It's a sexual strategy but it's also a competition strategy where they do all they can to hamstring male achievement while removing barriers to themselves.

Then they call this, "equality".

aazav · 2015-09-01T02:01:39+00:00

Africans from the east make great long distance runners, because that's what they had to do for tens of thousands of years.

Africans from the west are much more heavily muscled due to environmental pressure of a different type (they didn't have to outlast an antelope over a week of running).

There ARE genetic differences. They are built in. With men and women, it ls called sexual dimorphism. It is real and it is documented.

cheerfulwish · 2015-08-31T16:36:22+00:00

Maybe 10 or so years ago the united states women's national soccer team played some high school team in Connecticut and lost

paynehouse · 2015-08-31T19:16:28+00:00

The u16 boys soccer team regularly faces and beats the women's national team. The team that won the World Cup. The best woman's team gets defeated by an average u16 team.

[deleted] · 2015-08-31T19:53:43+00:00

Too true. I would bet $500 that I could beat the shit out of Rhonda Rousey

exoduslife · 2015-08-31T14:28:28+00:00

I see their raking is 8^th at the moment so they have aimed a bit lower in terms of opponents. Regardless, it's another feminist driven tactic where you pitt women against men (because that's what has been happening since the beginning of time right?) and once the women lose, bring out the feminoms with their trumpets and banner to hold a parade about how "you can't compare men and women, men have more muscles....".

[deleted] · 2015-08-31T20:31:03+00:00

When I was in 7th grade, I'd practice with the old Portland Fire, an early WNBA team. Some of the starters were way better than me (Jackie Stiles, Sophia Witherspoon), but I was just as good as everybody else, and actually better than their bench players.

Note: I'm not that great at basketball, but I was just stronger and could jump higher than all of them.

xPURE_AcIDx · 2015-08-31T23:09:38+00:00

I beat the canadian women's hockey team when I was 17 in midget AAA.

[deleted] · 2015-09-01T01:51:41+00:00

This reminds me of when the 2010 Canadian women's hockey team(gold champions) played my local major junior hockey team in a non contact game. The league(qmjhl) is among the best in Canada for guys aged 17-20 and they crushed the women. Imagine if it was contact which is one of the biggest factors in hockey.

fullhalf · 2015-09-01T04:59:39+00:00

i've always said, if ww3 broke out, gender roles would come back with fashion. women would suddenly realized their position in life and let the men take charge. it would be time to put up or shut up. there would be no excuses.

itsforhismum · 2015-08-31T18:00:24+00:00

When i was was in university in Maastricht me and some friends played baskettball for fun maybe once a week.none if us played baskettball from Childs age. We all played football since were from germany and thats just the way it is. 2 of the guys were really overweight like 150 kg at 1,75m (about 250-300 pounds at 5'10 in freedom units).all of us were heavy smokers and drinkers. we usually played outside so come Winter we go play in the University gym were the unis girls Team had training they trained 3 times a Week full time they had about 10 players so they could switch we couldnt and yes you guessed it they got fucked in the ass really hard. (74-10) if i remember correctly. The look on their faces priceless!

ThreeLF · 2015-08-31T20:52:25+00:00

The article you linked appears to only contain 3 matches, and says the women's team won 2. What am I missing?

NiceTryDisaster · 2015-08-31T21:40:16+00:00

I think even most women acknowledge this fact except for some crazy feminists

[deleted] · 2015-08-31T21:59:23+00:00

When I was a teen I would watch the female Olympic competitions, and I just assumed the men did similar shit but never watched. Years later I decided I had the patience for watching the men and I was totally blown away by the athleticism. It's a league or two beyond.

Raz0rLight · 2015-08-31T22:46:16+00:00

Not to discredit Ronda rousey here, I'm sure if you picked an average Joe off the street she would wipe the floor with him, but I just cant see her competing with any professional male mma fighter in a significantly higher weight class. She's a fantastic fighter, but she is no emelianenko. I just don't see her outperforming superior reach with inferior strength.

SILENTSAM69 · 2015-09-01T00:20:49+00:00

The article only mentions 3 of their matches that I can see. Is there anywhere to see the rest of thatched scores? The article shows them winning two and losing one.

[deleted] · 2015-09-01T00:57:35+00:00

Back in the day I ran track in high school so I saved all of the state championship times that were published in the local paper. It happened to be a year of the summer Olympics so I compared the boys times to the women Olympics champions. Remember, these are the best female athletes in the world. But the boys were much faster. IIRC the 100M time was several tenths of a second better - which is just a tremendous difference. In essence 18 year old boys from a random state would be gold medal winners if they competed against women in the Olympics. That's how much of a physical difference there is.

To prove my point, here are the results from the 2015 State of Virginia track championships. The male 100M champion ran a 10.47 and 10 other heats ran faster than 10.75, the time of the 2012 Women's Olympic Gold Medal winner.

DPestWork · 2015-09-01T01:28:46+00:00

That tennis example is hilarious! I can't wait to troll the next feminist I meet off Tinder with that!

Ninja_Wizard_69 · 2015-09-01T04:26:51+00:00

Haha my high school played them once. We almost won. We had most possession and shots on goal.

Our hockey team isn't even good either. We lose constantly to our rival

jags85 · 2015-09-01T04:53:10+00:00

This is also relevant to the idiotic assertions that the Women's UFC champion Rhonda Rousey is "pound for pound" the best fighter, male or female, in the world. This stupidity I have heard repeated to me by a female MMA fighter too... Who presumably should know better. Alas, the potency of feminist truth-distortion is amazing.

It isn't such an idiotic assertion if you accept there is a considerable genetic difference between the genders. "Pound for pound" is really just contrasting fighters based on their technique and their effort, not on their genetics (weight, or in this case their gender).

kellykebab · 2015-09-01T05:46:49+00:00

Did I misread the hockey article? Sounded like the women's record was 2-2, not 5 straight losses:

The most recent opponent on Team USA’s schedule was Dexter Southfield, which defeated the U.S. Olympians 6-3 on Sunday afternoon.

.........

Here’s a recap of Team USA’s recent pre-Olympic exhibitions against New England schools:

3-1 loss to the Salisbury School in Connecticut

2-1 win over the Taft School in Connecticut

5-2 win over Saint Sebastian in Needham

[deleted] · 2015-09-01T06:36:08+00:00

Throw Rousey and GGG in a ring and see what pound for pound is really about.

FallenHighSchoolJock · 2015-09-01T07:59:36+00:00

Red Pill Alpha Joe Rogan brought to tears because Rousey beating some tomato can in Brazil is a historic moment. None of us are safe.

Jax-T · 2015-09-01T09:18:50+00:00

I'm in Istanbul right now, looking at that Feminist Western Countries and thinking these countries are like jokes. This whole third wave feminism bullshit and its incredible effects are like jokes. Nothing else.

[deleted] · 2015-09-01T11:40:32+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDvMBPZ5Bik&list=RDGRB2QTP8DpU&index=2

L0rdMaul117 · 2015-09-01T12:56:18+00:00

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BaratheonBonfire · 2015-09-01T12:09:43+00:00

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xjs2fWJEs this is what happens when Rhonda trains with an eastern block mens fighter that doesn't give one shit about making her look good. She gets so frustrated.

Nate1885 · 2015-09-01T13:11:03+00:00

I have a pretty good story that follows this idea. I recent did the mud hero obstacle course with a group from my gym, it was most women and a few guys. Us guys demolished the girls in our group by a minimum of 5 minutes. Most of the girls got in the top 15, and the guys barely made the Top 100.

TRPJZ · 2015-09-01T14:36:44+00:00

This is one of those threads where after the point has been made (and made again, and again and again), it degrades into a circle jerk.

It's a nice fact to think about especially if you're in the anger phase, (you mad bro?) but I don't think this has very much to do with "male sexual strategy"

ThisisMalta · 2015-09-01T19:28:54+00:00

As a College wrestler who competed in Amateur MMA, and grappled at the pro level--I was aware of this long ago. Female Black belts and professional boxers at my gym train with amateur guys and we would see the reality long every week. The general population is a bunch of lazy fucks who have no idea what goes on in the gym so I am not surprised by this constant male athlete = female athlete bullshit.

Gemini142 · 2015-09-03T17:46:22+00:00

I don't know how or why this is getting this many upvotes and this much discussion. Its basic biology, clearly men are stronger faster and more coordinated. That is scientific fact, there is really nothing to discuss. Much in the same way that we don't argue with flat earthers, creationists or racists.

kritzy27 · 2015-09-04T16:48:41+00:00

The average male has better grip strength than elite female strength athletes. That's just a microcosm of how superior we are as physical beings. We just have the better genetics.

LyricBaritone · 2015-09-08T03:42:57+00:00

Only idiots think Rousey is the best pound for pound fighter. Of course women can't reasonably compete with men in their weight class, that's why there are separate divisions for men an women. I shudder to think what Dillashaw, Barao, or Faber would do to Rousey in a sanctioned fight.

KingFeet · 2015-08-31T23:58:08+00:00

Hockey is a poor example. It relies heavily on player size. It can't really be played without some shoving around - especially in America.

Yes, maybe the women got outplayed (and it's quite possible that they did), but I just wanted to point out that this isn't even nearly fair. Put a men's rugby team against a women's rugby team and it would be a complete wipe. Any sport where your physical size is highly important to the game makes for a poor comparison in male vs female.

[deleted] · 2015-09-01T00:34:55+00:00

The US olympic hockey team typically scores 1:10 against Canada's team, so I can totally believe it without even looking at more rationale.

ndndb · 2015-08-31T21:51:04+00:00

How is this even remotely related to sexual strategy?

_orion · 2015-08-31T16:13:38+00:00

maybe if they spent more time practicing hockey then painting their fingernails and worrying bout their teeth that wouldn't of happened.

SchwagMan · 2015-08-31T23:14:25+00:00

Don't most of Rousey's fights end in submission though? She doesn't necessarily have to be stronger than her hypothetical make opponent as long as she's more technical. It doesn't take an obscene amount of physical pressure to put someone in enough pain to make them tap and I think we can agree that Rousey is totally capable of doing that to anyone.

Personally, I think Rousey is an incredible fighter amidst horrible ones. All but I believe one of her fights were handled by her mercilessly and quickly. I think that speaks more to the incompetence of her peers than the magnitude of her ability. It's difficult to gauge just how skilled she is because of this. It's like racing a corvette against a swarm of Honda civics. Yes it wins but what was it winning against?

Rousey is a bad bitch. There's really no arguing that. She could arguably take down most untrained men. But in the ring with a man of her weight class? I honestly think it depends on how she approaches the fight. Standing up trading blows? She's likely not going to last. But if she can get them on the ground and maneuver into a submission? She's got s strong chance leaving as a winner. She doesn't have to be stronger than her opponent, just strong enough to apply the correct amount of pressure to their bones/joints.

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squirtmasterd · 2015-08-31T21:15:43+00:00

She arguably is the p4p #1 fighter in the world, no one in her division comes close. Mayweather is a business man before he is a fighter and whilst amazing, he's no where near as far ahead of the pack that Rhonda is. The same can be said for Klitschko. Her division is the key, the lack of competition.

Then to add to the confusion, she could beat Mayweather in a street fight, as per mma vs boxing goes. Most competent brown belts in BJJ could imo.

Doesn't mean Rhonda could beat a guy in her division. Even going down a division on the male side to a lower weight class to make up for the breast tissue, it would still be interesting at best. MMDJ could even be too fast and strong for her, and he's child like in size.

NineInchPitchfork · 2015-08-31T14:29:56+00:00

Like straw men much? Jesus dude this is cringe-worthy. We are superior athletes due to physiological differences. Crowing about it makes you sound like a teenage autist.

Title	USA's Women's Olympic Hockey team loses to Boy's high school hockey teams
Author	SatisfiedMan
Upvotes	989
Comments	433
Date	31 August 2015 01:38 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/36001
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