Lost my virginity. Thank you TheRedPill

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April 6, 2020

TL;DR: I finally popped my cherry at the old age of 29 after years upon years of self improvement, eating healthy, working out, and building up confidence and becoming more assertive. It is thanks to the advice of this subreddit and the material that you guys have recommended.

I grew up in a Chinese immigrant family that prioritised academic success above all else. As I got older (middle school/high school) I was interested in having a girlfriend by my mother was dead set against it as it would distract from my academic performance. My mother was also physically and emotionally abusive. I was never taught to love myself and I grew up with zero self-esteem. This was worsened by getting bullied.

Suffice to say, I did manage to go to a good University. It was also a University that was known for being a matchmaker. "You'll find your spouse here" they said. But I had no social skills. I didn't know how to talk to girls. The girls I kept asking out kept flaking out on me or preferred to be friends. I suppose on top of my lack of confidence and social acumen, I was also fat and unhealthy.

Fast forward a few years later. I started to notice a pattern in all the women who took advantage of me. My abusive mother, my close female friend who had gone down the path of radical feminism, the girl who constantly kicked me in high school.

They saw me as worthless and saw fit to treat me like trash. I contemplated suicide seriously at one point, and my family intervened, but negatively. They didn't tell me how much I meant to them, but how much of a bastard I was for even thinking of doing it.

One day, I decided that I would not tolerate it a day longer. I decided to stand up for myself and put myself first.

There was so much pent up aggression and anger. And the media does make a habit of telling young men like you and me that it's never OK to be angry. At that point, I no longer cared. You can't force someone into a corner and not expect him to start fighting ferociously for his life.

So that's what I did. I started going to the gym. I cut ties with friends who did not contribute to my self-esteem and who were a negative influence (and I enforced a no-female friend policy as well, as most of them were negative). I started reading material that was constructive, such as Mark Manson's Models, The Rational Male, No Mr. Nice Guy (amazing book for anyone starting out), and the 48 Laws of Power. I forged more meaningful friendships. I started putting my foot down more, allowing myself to not be so nice to those who weren't deserving of it.

Most of all, I decided to start believing in myself. If I didn't, who would?

The results did not come instantly. I was still getting flaked on and rejected. A girl who I felt like I had an intense connection found love somewhere else. People my age were beginning to get married.

But I persevered. I kept going to the gym, pushing myself to run faster and lift heavier. I stopped eating junk food as often and started gravitating towards healthy food that I liked. I stopped seeing people who put me down and started hanging out with emotionally supportive (but still able to constructively criticise) friends. No matter what, I was going to keep calm and carry on.

2019 was a very sad year for me. It was the year most of my friends turned 30. Most of the girls I liked were born in the late 80s and by the standards of this sub, already smacked into the Wall. Moreoever, while I'm happy for him, my brother got married, and so have a few of my friends, making me wonder if the human race is truly going to abandon me.

But I kept going. And as fortune would have it, I met a nice, smiling girl one day. I gave no fucks at all, started being handsy with her, taking charge. I ended up kissing her and she kissed back passionately. Before I knew it, we were back at my flat and not only did I pop my cherry, I managed to do something that most people couldn't do: make my first time special.

I didn't have sex before, but I did some research into how to please a woman, and I performed so well she wasn't really convinced that I was really losing my virginity to her.

But here I am, writing this post. I don't know if there's any logical value, but I hope this inspires anyone reading this to persevere on this path. If you're feeling down, depressed that no one likes you, or you're reading some dumb article on Salon about how virgins like you are dangerous and toxic to women and society, just remember: there are many like you out there and by taking life in your own hands, you are doing both yourself and society a favour.

But if you had to take any piece of advice from this post, I will say this: put yourself first. Learn to love yourself and accept who you are. Of course, that doesn't mean rest on your laurels and being narcissistic about your imperfections like the so-called Body Positivity Model, but understand that if you can't love yourself, you won't be able to love anybody else.

But above all, I want to thank this subreddit from the bottom of my heart. This group gets so much shit for being "toxic" or "misogynistic" and being labelled the "alt-right of gender politics". But in reality? You haven't just done young men a massive favour, you've done right by the young women who have benefitted from these improved young men.

I would have been a pathetic, angry incel had it not been for you guys. I probably would have done something very harmful, either to myself or to someone else and it terrifies me to the core even thinking about that. So thank you TheRedPill, you've saved my life, and I hope you'll continue saving more lives.

I made this account because I can't really be seen publicly endorsing this subreddit, and I might be deleting this throwaway soon. But I just wanted to express my gratitude and hope others will feel inspired by this story

EDIT: Post was automatically removed because I linked to this subreddit, which apparently isn't allowed. Hope this amended post is OK

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Title Lost my virginity. Thank you TheRedPill
Author BlackPhoenix01
Upvotes 1085
Comments 98
Date 06 April 2020 05:17 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/360809
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/fvsr7j/lost_my_virginity_thank_you_theredpill/
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[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 114 points115 points  (5 children) | Copy

I know, what a tragedy. I was hoping to master the arcane arts, but it seems I've put too many points in mastering sexual arts instead

[–]hashishandbeer13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where did you and her meet?

[–]JedYorks7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Where did you meet her at that age? I’m one year older than you

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[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

through a family and friends event. The irony is that I got screwed over by a tinder date a night prior. Fuck that app

[–]TheH1dd3nFear8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude Tinder sucks now, it's rigged.

[–]nicyhasreddit1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He could heal the sexually deprived females though. Months of social distancing take a toll on the females. COVID-19 is real painful.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Consider it my civic duty!

But I ain't trying to catch no coronavirass

[–]0io-93 points94 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well hey, congratulations and good for you! It's nice to know that somebody is working on himself and fixing his own problems. Keep up the good work! It's a much better path than the one you were on before which leads to suicide and despair. Hopefully this cute girl you met will keep you happy for a while, but if not, there are millions more out there.

It feels a lot better than being kicked around and treated like shit!

Edit: If you keep doing what you've been doing I'll bet your relationship with your mother will actually improve too. I haven't really seen it discussed much on here but as you sort of DNGAF anymore, they'll say, wow, OP has really grown up, he's his own man now. Chinese helicopter parents and "tiger" moms are kind of notorious for being abusive or borderline abusive in their own way, it's all they know, hopefully you'll sort of forgive her and move on from that as the years go by. She'll brag to her friends on WeChat that she taught you everything you know and she's proud of you.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks! I'm prepared for whatever happens next.

I mean, of course my mom will take the credit despite the fact that she's done everything to ensure I don't become an eligible bachelor. I know I'll eventually have to forgive her, but I think it might be later than sooner

[–]Bone_Coat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

about the chinese mother, have you seen the movie "the internship"? there is an asian guy that basically got redpilled in that movie

[–]uwey85 points86 points  (2 children) | Copy

Be angry but don’t tell people you want to leave them. Just leave them.


Stay fuck away from abusive cunt. No matter how good it is. Leave, once you leave they would have to find someone else.

I leave many time to preserve my happiness and my fucking money.

Let the rotten to rot, let the blossom to bloom, and for there was nothing in the beginning, why bother to believe there are dirt to clean?

Let it be, but without your presence. Watch them burn down and you know who is real clinging mofo

Leave is so powerful that no one ever discuss it. Just like to have nothing in the house and no bullshit you don’t need to clean much. You can simply ignore people that bring you zero value and walk away in the middle of the conversation. They would have to chase you to finish their thought process, don’t give them that satisfaction. Just walk away and fuck them.

That is power, when you have nothing to lose.

[–]twy34408 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This power to leave, to have nothing to lose is incredible.

I've used it as a landlord to great effect.

Tenants who are whiners and complaining about everything. I just say: "You sound unhappy. We only want happy tenants. Why don't you just leave? I'll let you out of your lease, no harm no foul."

It's an amazing. And I have to point out: I learned it from my wife is is as redpilled as a woman can be. She had a strong father and grew up on a farm with six brothers. She is a true partner.

[–]HelveticusVIII2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you share with us some of these redpill qualities your wife has

[–]Stron2g117 points118 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yo mods, can you guys make an archive or a list or folder or something and put these types of posts (where young "incel" men are saved/improved) in the collection?

It would be such a great tool that could be used in favor of the sub moving forward. Cheers and congrats OP

[–]le_wolfe38 points39 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yea, kind of 'testimonials' if you know what I mean?

[–]Sobinia18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

There's a sub called "Thank TRP"

[–]le_wolfe9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know, but having a separate "first blood" flair here at TRP would be awesome. Although, I doubt there would be enough posts like that or not.

[–]Bone_Coat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes but they are less active, I think that in order give inspiration to other members and to show this as the real deal, somebody has to post on the original subreddit

[–]hockeyaddict8723 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Congrats man. I’m currently 3 months into my red pill journey. I’m glad I found it at 18

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amazing! I resisted this kind of advice at your age and only started implementing it at 24-25, so definitely work at it!

[–]PosnerRocks43 points44 points  (1 child) | Copy

Congrats my friend for making the hard, but correct, choice. So often people double down and refuse to take a clear look at themselves and the person they are. That prevents them from ever taking that first step towards self improvement. Surrounded by negativity, you still managed to find the positive and productive path towards meaningful change.

I'm your age and I've had four weddings this spring cancelled because of this coronavirus. Many other friends are also married now. Some already divorced. Pay what your friends are doing no mind. Comparison is the thief of joy. Besides, I absolutely love my lifestyle and you'll grow to love yours.

Word of caution. You've just lost your virginity and you're applying the correct principles, but now is when they will be tested. You missed out on a lot of social development. Part of that is your first heartbreak. Write to yourself how you feel in this moment. Everything that you've worked towards and how it felt to accomplish it. Then if the day comes where some oneitis unicorn breaks your heart, that'll be the light in the dark. If it never comes, great, you'll never think about the word doc ever again.

But I digress. Congratulations again my friend. I am very happy for you and the completion of not just one goal, but soon to be many.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. And don't forget FRAME is everything. Learning to STFU and DGAF is also a great thing to add to your strategy

[–]NYCSPARKLE68 points69 points  (4 children) | Copy

Congrats. Now do it 10 more times before getting a serious GF.

[–]redmanticore-4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

of course he does not have to follow religiously what every internet commenter says to him.

if she seems nice, fine, go for it, just remember healthy self-worth.

[–]GoMake_me_a_sandwich13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

Watch Coach Greg Adams, Better Bachelor, and Donovan Sharpe on Youtube. There are others as well.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've seen Greg Adams and other dating coaches and try to take the best advice out of all of them and put a personal spin on it

[–]Sobinia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alexander Grace will also come in handy once/if you'll start looking for an LTR (don't look for it yet, though, as you don't have much experience with woman and can still attract a low-quality one).

[–]jagdecat8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congratulations and wish you ever greater success ahead. RP saved my life as well after years of Beta-ness and years of abuse by the female because i was a 'Nice Guy' first and honestly because i would let them.

My request would be to keep the account and check in often. Given our current culture of pandering to women's whims, there's a lot of bad advice floating on the subs and inter-webs and men who've been through that hell and come out redder are still in short supply. These are the people who can speak from experience and guide those who still believe that 'being nice is the answer to her puss&"

As they say, once you've reached the top, send down the elevator to those at the bottom. Those who are worthy only though.

[–]le_wolfe6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good job on getting your dick wet, tiger. Way to go.

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[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh wow. I'm really happy for you too! For me it was a double whammy. I was always considered the failure, inferior of two brothers and that combined with a lack of encouragement in school made me grow up with zero self esteem. There were attempts to build it before, but people kept shooting it down. Let's call them "personal globalists".

Then I realised I had to double, even triple down on building self respect, and it turns out the people who were shooting my attempts down were not good people to begin with, and I began attracting less toxic people.

Also, I'm well aware of the taboo nature of this community. It's why I don't post on my other accounts. And as someone who grew up in an extremely pro-Feminist, left wing part of the world, I know exactly where you're coming from.

Stay safe out there, whether it's from the coronavirus, fetid snowflakes, or both!

[–]reddick13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I performed so well she wasn't really convinced that I was really losing my virginity to her.

The only mistake you made was telling her that. But you could pull it off like you were joking later. Otherwise good job, proud of you.

[–]imtheoneimmortal11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy

Congrats man but u still got the oedipus complex, u still trying to please a woman overall well done

[–]Stron2g20 points21 points  (9 children) | Copy

It probably takes decades to get rid of that when you were programmed for your first 20+ years of life

[–]imtheoneimmortal5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy

True but if he works on childhood traumas and solve that He will be free for eternity

[–]Stron2g2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also true, but not many people know how. It starts with detoxification and lord knows all the stigma around that term (eg dumb fucks who immediately think of scammy 10 day juice fasts and disregard it entirely) is not helping humans today.

[–]konoha_gang1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Could you explain more about that? How do you even start doing this?

[–]imtheoneimmortal4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Reading Freud 2-3 books and analyzing urself, why u are who u are and how you make choices.

You could go either to therapist not randomly but asking her to solve ur traumas as kid.

Personally i solved and understood many things of my childhood like why im this.

[–]konoha_gang1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Nice, thanks! Which books would you recommend?

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the links, man. I'll look into it!

[–]Stron2g0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Another side of your psychology you must work on is through cleansing your body and mind. This one may be more important and may actually be completely gating any type of progress in your life, because body and mind are so interwoven.

This is a good place to start but it obviously shouldn't be your only resource. Good luck!

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[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy


In all fairness, the biggest obstacle in terms of taking the red pill is taking the initiative and opening yourself up to it. So many people lack the determination to see it through, much less even be willing to make the choice in the first place

[–]mikrodizels2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Congrats dude, mind sharing the encounter in a bit more detail? (how did you meet, did you bone her the same day you met her, what did you guys do before you took her to your flat)

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

This might warrant a separate post. If I went into detail about how I met this girl (and it's an interesting story) I can definitely elaborate in a separate post if it's fine by the mods

[–]Shieldless_One0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely elaborate if you can especially if this happened recently when everyone has locked themselves indoors.

[–]mr4kino2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hey OP, a very good share and very happy for you. You did really well. From my readings, boys that are able to liberate themselves from an emotionally abusive mother are not often seen. Well done again!

Now only a piece of quick advice if I may: don't put your "end-goal" as getting women. This should be the least of your concern. Just concentrate on yourself and as you've seen and as it has been said before by lots of guys here, they will come to you.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Couldn't agree with you more. But even then, I suppose I do fall into the trap. Envisioning "getting women" as an end goal opens up a dangerous path to oneitis.

But at the very least, with my virginity gone, women no longer have power over me. At least, that's how I feel

[–]mr4kino2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your ability to self-analyze yourself is great and will help you grow a lot more. Keep it up mate.

[–]jpfrana2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I managed to do something that most people couldn't do: make my first time special.

I've never been so jealous in my entire life.

[–]trey_at_fehuit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This sub is quarantined because of people like you improving your life instead of living for them. Good for you

[–]latinasonly2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why do asian and indian parents so often produce kids who are classroom winners and schoolyard losers ?

In american society, the social heirarchy is more based on how cool you are than on your career and economic status than in china or india. That is why stereotypical indian or chinese parents place so much emphasis on academic and career success and neglect their kids athletic and social life. They are raising their kids for a different society, and we all know how this can turn out.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL nice name, I wonder how Latinos fit in. They're known for being the romantic type, largely speaking.

But yeah, I largely agree. Thing is, though in China, India, or Japan, I imagine there's some kind of social game that you have to run there. Good grades and academic achievement might have greater importance but they certainly aren't the end all, be all for society.

[–]ReaperX448 points9 points  (15 children) | Copy

You're about to catch oneitis like a motherfucker and you don't even know it.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy

Maybe, I won't count it out. I left out some other details but I think I'll be fine with this girl, and if not, that's okay, I've got a few other girls in the wings. Long story short, this lay was actually in response to a growing oneitis for a girl who was sending me mixed signals. Now I'm debating what to do with her

The important thing is that the prospect of being with a woman no longer has this mysterious power over me. I'm the one with the power and ability to choose and select, and I hope I'll use it wisely

[–]Sobinia2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Leave the girl that's sending mixed signals, unless you want to orbit her and let her string you along.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yup. Zoned her ass to her friends. I'm even asking out an additional girl out next week. Kind of feel guilty about it, but maybe that's the remnants of my blue pill programming talking

[–]Sobinia3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

What exactly makes you feel guilty? If you recognize what causes this feeling and explain why it's unreasonable, it will most likely go away. If somebody's into you, they won't send mixed signals or try to stting you along.

Also, remember: women make rules for betas and break them for alphas.

When I was a teenager, I had 2-3 "boyfriends". I didn't let any of them hold my hand until date nr. 3. Didn't let them cuddle with me until I knew them for at least a month (my mother advised me to wait even longer). Didn't kiss them until the three-month mark, because of my very severe anti-slut-defence. We never went past the "kissing milestone". They ALWAYS brought me flowers and came to my part of town. Whenever we broke up, it usually took me 5 minutes to get over them.

And then, at 18, I met a guy from Ukraine online. I immediately fell for him and after a WEEK, I secretly crossed the border (my town was close to it and he was from Lvov) risking a huge conflict with my mother, used all of my savings to book a hotel room for myself, a room that I didn't even use, because I spent the night at his apartment. We broke up last July, I contacted him one last time in December 2019 and yet, I still can't get over him, even though I've tried almost everything to do so.

Which guy would you rather be?

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Damn. Insight from an alpha widow (no offence, the description just matches). Thanks for the tip. I'll keep it in mind going forward.

EDIT: My guilt wasn't about throwing the mixed signals girl out. My guilt is about asking multiple women out even after I just had sex with one of them

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

My guilt wasn't about throwing the mixed signals girl out. My guilt is about asking multiple women out even after I just had sex with one of them

If that's the case, then sorry for flooding you with the story about guys being (subconsciously) strung along.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

No problem at all. The girl with mixed signals was sweet, but she was nothing compared to the girls I've seen seeing now. If anything, she's the investor that failed to see the potential in a group of kids from Harvard building the thing that eventually became Facebook. If she wants in, she's gonna have to pay a much higher price now.

But as for dating multiple women, should I feel guilty?

[–]Sobinia1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'n glad you're seeing much higher quality girls now! As for dating multiple women, what makes you think you should feel guilty about it? When you're in the dating phase, it's normal to see multiple people at the same time, (and most attractive women do so ;) ). IMO, there's nothing wrong with dating many people at once, as long as you don't lie about being exclusive.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks! I'm glad, too. I went from kind of being friend zoned by the mixed signals girl to having women asking to meet up with me by the handful. It's almost as if I discovered superpowers!

I've spent a good deal of my young adult life pining for a relationship and commitment, and now that a girl has finally given me a chance, the last thing I want to do is hurt somebody.

So from my interpretation, the second I say "we're bf and gf", that's when I close the taps. Until then, I'm gonna have a very packed schedule!

[–]ReaperX441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's no such thing as mixed signals when it comes to women. It's either a hell yes or a hell no. Anything in between is always a no. Thread carefully, women are manipulative in nature. Always think AWALT in the back of your mind.

[–]reddick14 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

He told the girl he's a virgin... uh oh...

That's just an open invitation for this girl to start manipulating him. And serious loss of respect for him in her mind.

[–]D32thStryk32 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree on this, it will always be on her mind. It's annoying as fuck

[–]morpheushaze1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He shouldn't have said it. He's destroyed the respect she could've had for him. He didn't tell us about her age, if she's already hit the wall or is closer than ever, certainly she is trying to settle down with him.

Don't accept the rest from Chads. Try other girls, at least 10. If you want to get married one day. Do it in your late thirties. And, please, always remember: the one who commands the beginning of the relationship will command forever. Every relationship commander is stated at the very beginning.

[–]gillybz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congrats brother! I was the same until a few months back, then decided to take a different path since I felt like gf thing wasn't coming my way. Remember, never lose your sight! Your happiness came through this journey of becoming stronger yourself both physically and mentally.

[–]tenpointmatt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

love a good success story. you're on a positive path - congrats.

[–]KindOriginal11 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thank you for sharing, your story gives me hope. I'm still in the frustration phase trying to improve myself. Dating as an ethnic Indian from an immigrant family has been a total wasteland for me.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh man, yeah. I've heard that dating as an Indian dude can be really rough. I spent a good deal of my late teens/early 20s going after Asian women who wanted nothing to do with me, then going after white women who wanted nothing to do with me (ok, there were a couple of them who did want something to do with me but I was too stupid to act on it)

It's not going to be easy, but nothing worth fighting for ever is. Exercise, enrich yourself and constantly improve and the results will follow

[–]Dudewheresmymoto11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you continue to march through the wasteland, eventually youll arrive at paradise

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s never too late to start.

Good job.

Keep building brother.

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congrats bro. Same age, same mother and same boat as you. Where and what did you learn how to perform?

[–]Roto2esdios1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congrats bro! Just keep your head cool and play the game. Don't feel emotions to those thots, having sex sometimes you develop some 'feelings'. Enjoy

[–]1New_Guard1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Excellent. My only criticism is you shouldn't tell future women that you're not that experienced. I can understand you wanting to share that with this woman, because it was a special moment for you, but most women don't find male inexperience attractive. Don't make up a false backstory. Just don't talk about it, and be a little evasive if they ask. Keep pushing forward man, and don't make the mistake of thinking this first one is going to be your forever partner.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I kind of put it all out there when I told her, and as many commenters have pointed out, it might be a mistake. That said, I intentionally did it because, like you pointed it out, I wanted it to be special. Whatever happens next, I'll be prepared for it.

But yeah, I'll definitely keep mum about my low count in the future

[–]partyboob3051 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why did u tell her ur a virgin

[–]GeneRD1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"They didn't tell me how much I meant to them, but how much of a bastard I was for even thinking of doing it."

My heart was crushed the moment I read this line. I am very happy for your success and inspired by report. You're right about being narcissistic of your imperfections is like the body positivity movement. I am making this mistake, as if I am covering up myself, pretending to be someone I'm not. It's been a relief to realize and admit.

[–]drv120210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what kind of materials did you read from theredpill?

[–]southflsup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The most powerful man is a man with nothing to lose. Congrats on your transformation OP

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great post man. I remember googling all sorts as a teenager even when I was having steady sex with my gf, once she and I were looking at stuff together and let me tell you that night was special.

Get what you want out of sex but there's also room for communication, even whilst leading the way.

[–]BusyPhantom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I haven't been on Reddit for weeks and this was the first post that welcomed me! Congratulations Sir, hope restored! I'm glad you're able to move on from the haunting past. Thank you for this post as well as it's resonating with certain discoveries I'm making in my own life at the moment.

[–]ConfusingLibido0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TBH the one thing i learnt from this post was; rather than loving yourself; learning to distance yourself from toxic people (i.e your mother) who you intially feel/think that they are there to help you

[–]jealousmelon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have a couple of questions. How old was she? What research did you make beforehand? How would you rate her on the scale 1/10?

[–]CrimsonSultan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

congratz on your first cherry pop, im happy another bro was saved.

>I made this account because I can't really be seen publicly endorsing this subreddit

understandable, assuming its career or relationship related. your sexual strategy is a weapon and the feminist world hates it

[–]redmanticore-0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

>or you're reading some dumb article on Salon about how virgins like you are dangerous and toxic to women and society

>I probably would have done something very harmful, either to myself or to someone else

but you did prove their point.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In the end, I didn't. I got better. I shed the toxic attitude that I was entitled to things and that other people were responsible for my happiness and worked on my life. It's because of the Red Pill that I stopped being toxic

It's detoxifying people

[–]autofan88-4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy

No more Mr. Nice Guy is a horrible book. It is just a money grabber. I read it and found a lot of wrong concepts.

[–]BlackPhoenix01[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

It's a good book to start on for many recovering beta males who don't know how to love themselves

[–]autofan881 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

It is only good for the ones who have the potential of being at least $1 million worth. That's why he says in the book "If one man can make $1 million, so can you". Most men will perceive the bs and will give up on the book, but the ones that have that potential will be able to apply what he suggests in the book and get out of the beta mentality. Those who can't are doomed to remain in the beta trap.

[–]Sobinia-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

There's only a certain amount of alphas the world can take, and if the book has managed to help at least 10% of its readers outside the beta trap, it's not a money grab. Also, you can read the most perfect book ever, but if you don't apply its teachings, it will remain useless.

[–]autofan880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's only a certain amount of alphas the world can take

Indeed, that's totally true. Only 10% of the guys do 90% of the banging.

if the book has managed to help at least 10% of its readers outside the beta trap, it's not a money grab

It is a money trap for the 90% of those who don't get anything out of it. And the author also uses it to sell further sessions, which will end up making unfortunate guys to sink hundreds of even thousands of dollars for either not getting anything out of it or getting something that they could have gotten for much less.

Also, you can read the most perfect book ever, but if you don't apply its teachings, it will remain useless.

I know. If someone advices me that if I want to be an airline pilot I need to go to a flying school and I don't do it because I don't have the $30k to take all the classes, the advice is useless. I don't need to read a book that tells me that if I throw money at my betaness I will get out of it, because I already know how to do it myself.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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