29 year old woman wants her fiancee to understand she has too much self respect to perform certain sex acts AFTER he finds pictures of her doing these sex acts with her college boyfriend.

joekrozak · 2015-10-14T09:32:35+00:00

She hates it, yet she kept the pictures of it.

Stayinghereforreal · 2015-10-14T11:44:25+00:00

If she found pictures of the car gifts, exotic trips, lavish dates, heartbreakingly romantic sonnets, and high status social soirées BF took the ex to,, but never her, she would understand. And talk about self esteem would not cut it with her.

sir_wankalot_here · 2015-10-14T09:28:11+00:00

This is a good comment on the site.

Man, reddit really needs to make up its mind on this topic, because the hypocrisy is out of control. A girl writes: My guy doesn't want to perform cunnilingus. Reddit: dump that motherfucker, he should eat you out 24/7! A guy writes: my girlfriend used to do anal, now she won't. Reddit: Deal with it, it's her choice what she wants to do, nobody owes you anything!

Then the hamster responses are stuff like

You're really going to compare oral sex to anal penetration? Do you have any idea whatsoever how much anal sex HURTS or are you being willingly obtuse on the matter?

ScholarInRed · 2015-10-14T08:53:46+00:00

I thought being in a relationship meant doing everything the other person wanted.

"For a man who gives me real tingles, I'll do anything he wants."

I don't think the same way about sex anymore.

"Sex used to be enjoyable, now it's a job. I'm not doing overtime anymore."

I hate deepthroating^{my^beta.}

I feel shitty but I'm a little mad at the mentality that just because I did something with one person I have to do them with another. I just don't know what to tell him.

"He's right, but he's not my alpha so he can fuck off. I don't know how to spin this."

I'll bet it's strong showing for the WhiteKnight, Beta and Sisterhood societies in that thread. I don't even have the patience to look.

LuvBeer · 2015-10-14T08:42:45+00:00

Met girl on tinder

Brazilian, she speaks no English, I speak no Portuguese

Without being able to communicate except through sign language, brought her back to my place, got her a glass of water and we fucked

fucked her a few more times

anal, rimming, swallowing, took pictures of her

thru google translate she says that she doesn't like local guys because they're "perverts" and "don't respect women"

lol

ferengiprophet · 2015-10-14T09:25:23+00:00

I grew up in an extremely religious home and sex was super taboo and he was super uninhibited so I tried a lot of things

Religious girl fucked a confident guy who knew what he wanted. Sounds like he was her alpha fucks.

A lot of the stuff I did in college was because I wanted my ex to love me and I was desperate for affection and I thought being in a relationship meant doing everything the other person wanted.

He knew exactly how to handle her to the point that she did things just to please him.

AF/BB.

Lifio · 2015-10-14T12:14:59+00:00

Now imagine that this girl finds pictures, dozens of pictures, of her current boyfriend and his exes. Except in this case, said pictures are taken at five star hotels in the Maldives, Europe, Hawaii, basically the best destinations for a vacation. Also, there are many pictures of her current boyfriend offering flowers to the girls that were at that time his girlfriends, buying nice necklaces and rings, the best chocolate and so on. Now lets imagine what would this girl feel, how would she tell him to do this stuff for her too, and her reaction when he says that he is not like that anymore, he has too much self-respect to be that person again, I mean, I might guess what her reaction would be, but we will never know.

Haakon_Stormbrow · 2015-10-14T12:29:41+00:00

From her response a little further down the page: "But the thing is that I wasn't more attracted to or in love with them - I was just a girl who didn't know how to say no."

THEM.... So its not just this one guy from college..

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T10:51:52+00:00

"Good for you and your new standards, I wish you luck in your relationships"

Only thing that really needs to be said

Njncguy · 2015-10-14T13:58:57+00:00

Painful. The guy should part ways. I married a 100+ sex partner woman. To her credit, she at least told me about her past before we married. But I was already in love with her.

Some 18 years later (and 2 kids) we divorced. THE core problem was her desire for me was limited. Although the first few years seemed to be good, the last 12 were a downhill slide to utter misery for me.

I was her "comfortable shoe" beta bucks of a husband. She only "enjoyed" sex with me in one position. No oral or anything adventurous. Ever.

Turns out she was living a secret life of multiple lovers for at least the last ten years. As I found out, the sex she had was highly adventurous. She could fit in crazy wild sex 4 or 5 times per week while rejecting me for two or months at a time. Afterall, as she said, I had unrealistic expectations about sex in a LTR with small kids around.

Bottom line, she enjoyed -- had to have -- sex with guys she genuinely felt the hots for. I wasn't one of them.

chief_slap_ahoe · 2015-10-14T09:30:15+00:00

never settle on a woman that has and will do more with thier exes.

IASGame · 2015-10-14T10:20:17+00:00

This is classic "Saving the Best" material: http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/ Still the most chilling blog post I read on the Rational Male.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2015-10-14T15:48:48+00:00

You know it's funny now, but when I wrote Saving The Best (which is yet another repeat of this very common story) I got run up the flagpole for that guy's story being a troll job, an isolated thing or simply untrue.

It is incumbent on a man to enter into anything like monogamy with a woman with his eyes wide open. There is a huge double standard that shames men for even being concerned with a woman's sexual history. The latent purpose of that shame is to keep you ignorant of the plan women's Hypergamy has for your role.

It's ugly. The harsh truth (like the guy in this link's story as well as Saving the Best) is women will readily bang the Alpha with the most minimal of his investment while making the Beta wait, making him feel bad for asking about that Alpha, making him invest himself wholesale into her very precarious control of Frame in order to get not even a half-measure of the genuine sexual desire she held for that Alpha.

When that truth is unignorable, even by the most rank of Blue Pill Beta men, that's when she falls back on ready rationalizations of personal conviction – she was so desperate for the Alpha's love she was willing to do all the kinky shit he demanded of her. None of that sexuality was her idea.

For all of the flaunting of Open Hypergamy this is the inconvenient, damning truths the FI hopes you will simply overlook because "we should all just grow up and accept how things are" or else shame you for being concerned with your own exploitation.

The ugly truth is that the sexual best you hoped the woman you've decided to spend the rest of your life with would give you was willingly, with abandon, given to her past Alpha lovers.

seattleron · 2015-10-14T12:45:07+00:00

The pictures were, "tragically documented," but yet Chad was kind enough to return them and that tragedy turned into a memory she just didn't want to forget.

If those pictures were such a got damned tragedy, she'd have burned them.

When will women understand that sex to men = a sign of love. When that sign is taken away, or even an epiphany about why certain sexual acts were denied, everything is questioned. It would be like a woman in an LTR who has a man who's distant that doesn't listen or talk to her, and only touches her to have sex, finds out her man goes to the neighbor lady's house after work every day to cuddle and talk about their day.

Seems obvious, but obviously isn't something they realize naturally, because vagina.

redpillbanana · 2015-10-14T17:21:09+00:00

The comments section has some illustrative gender reversals:

How would you feel if you found a stack of love letters your ex saved from an old girlfriend, and in those letters you discovered the he was an expert masseuse, and would give her full body massages, and he was skilled in tantric sex and was able to have sex for hours and provide her with brain altering orgasms. He would write her poetry, and draw her hot baths, and they would spend weekends in bed cuddled. But he's never done any of these things with you.

When you discuss what was in the letters he tells you that he never really liked any of that stuff, he did it because he thought he needed to do it in order for her to stay with him and love him. How would you feel? Would you want him to do those things with you? Would you feel like you are somehow 2nd rate? Would you think that he was more in love, or more attracted to her, or that she was just overall better? If you asked him to do any of those things and he declined would you feel completely rejected?

And:

Imagine yourself sitting there on the couch watching netflix with him and somehow you see pictures of him on someone's Facebook visiting Paris or Rio in a private jet with an ex girlfriend of his. You ask him about it and why he never thought to take you on extravagant romantic trips and he just says "Oh I just wanted to please those girls, I didn't really enjoy it myself". Can you really say you wouldn't think "So he did want to please them in that way, but doesn't want to please me like that"?

This issue gets brought up rather frequently and this is the fundamental point everyone on this sub seems to miss. It's not about the sex. It's about you being willing to please an ex in ways you're not willing to please your current SO. That draws a direct comparison between your current SO and your ex and shows pretty conclusively that you cared more in some way for your ex than you do for your current. You can insert any other non sexual activity or form of showing affection in place of sex.

"I was willing to (insert thing your current SO enjoys) with other people because I knew it made them happy. I know it makes you happy too but I'm not willing to do it with you". If you don't think that sort of thing would make anyone feel like shit, I don't know what to tell you.

anonymousapple111 · 2015-10-14T13:00:05+00:00

In the comments "He's just being insecure".Fuckin' wow!!

1NV0K3R · 2015-10-14T12:36:56+00:00

One day, I will make a thread.

It will consist of this same exact scenario, but reversed.

"So...today I found out that my boyfriend used to take his ex on cruises, romantic holiday get aways, fancy restaurants, resorts, you name it. But with me...I think we've been to outback once."

Etc etc.

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T14:30:35+00:00

Marriage is a tricky proposition at best when all the stars line up correctly. If you are sexually frustrated during engagement that's a big fucking problem.

If your fiancee won't get freaky deeky - DO NOT MARRY THAT BITCH - regardless of whether or not a Chad ever defiled her before you knew her.

This is it man - during the engagement a woman generally is doing the runner's kick to get to the finish line. She certainly doesn't want to fuck things up now - and if she doesn't want to get crazy sexy fun with you that's a HUGE RED FLAG.

I seriously don't know why guys put up with this shit. Are they so fucking desperate they think the little breadcumbs of pussy a former carousel riding narcissist may drop in exchange for the beta bux is better than no pussy at all?

No man should put up with that.

She should be worshipping your cock like a fervent fertility priestess. She should be all about it - down for whatever non-creepy shit you want to get playful with.

If you say "Honey I want to fuck you in the ass."

She should respond "OK just get me drunk and make sure you use lube" and while you're banging that ass she should be moaning "oh yeah fuck my ass."

She should be looking to make a time of it - not being a mega bitch about it. You're the guy she's going to marry - she should want to fuck you. If she doesn't - then you know you're just a beta bux to her. Fuck that noise.

trplurker · 2015-10-14T13:17:42+00:00

Holy shit this is 100% pure textbook RP..

But the thing is that I wasn't more attracted to or in love with them - I was just a girl who didn't know how to say no. I was deeply needy and clingy and I desperately needed approval from people and especially my boyfriend at the time and that meant doing anything he wanted. I didn't do anal with him because I was so attracted to him. I did anal with him because I felt like I had to in order to be a good girlfriend. I was deeply afraid he'd leave me. I grew up with a lot of misconceptions about sex thanks to my religion and a lot of subservient tendencies that I've had to fight really hard to overcome. I'm 27 now and I've learned a lot about myself and I think I'm a stronger more confident person and part of that was me being able to look at my actions and stop doing things that hurt me in order to make other people feel better. Having painful sex that doesn't arouse me is one of those things. Honestly it has nothing to do with attraction in my case. I can understand why it might look that way but it's just not.

She basically admits she was super attracted to him but also not attracted to him. Completely bullshiting herself and everyone else. Her ex pulled dread game which got her into an extremely insecure mindset, he then turned her into his sex slave and she enjoyed it. Eventually he dumped her, and I can guarantee it was him who got rid of her because otherwise she would of definitely thrown away those pictures. She gets older, stops getting into relationships with super sexual Chads and ends up with her weak ass boyfriend. She had forgotten about her memento's of Chad until her BF ran across them. She doesn't want to lose the security of her weak BF, but she doesn't see him as a replacement for Chad and thus doesn't want to open herself sexually for him. He needs to just ditch her. Kick her out the house, if it's in his name, and start the RP path to get himself straight.

To all my RP brethren, this is why you always escalate your sexual interactions with plates. Always get them to do anal, threeways and all that crazy shit, even if your not 100% really into it. And if you want to LTR a chick, she better damn well do that stuff otherwise it's nothing but pain later.

my_redpill_account · 2015-10-14T11:36:59+00:00

Man constantly seeing women not understand these things guys feel is depressing. It's like they can't even begin to try to understand.

Oh well.

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T11:30:07+00:00

There have been a shit ton of alpha fucks, beta bucks examples lately.

This is not an accident. Understanding women's sexual strategy is the cornerstone of a man developing his own effective strategy

Once you truly understand what gives women the tingles, then the process becomes almost laughable, they want non needy masculine men with status

Kalidane · 2015-10-14T11:36:44+00:00

I think I'm going to start taking photos of Girls on their phone just so their loser husbands can find them years later.

It'll be my new hobby.

WingsnLV · 2015-10-14T15:50:37+00:00

She kept the pictures. That is all you need to know about this situation. If she didn't enjoy these things she would not have kept the pictures.

philly2shoes · 2015-10-14T14:46:12+00:00

I think this is a good barometer. If your wife did things in the past that she won't do with you, you might be a beta.... Take note, people.

chill1995 · 2015-10-14T12:49:54+00:00

Who the fuck keeps physical pictures of them and an ex going at it?

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T13:47:05+00:00

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What is this?

Stalgrim · 2015-10-14T13:42:35+00:00

What a lucky guy, they're only engaged. He can, I'm pretty sure, still dump her now WITHOUT consequence (and I hope that since he's only in his 20's, still find someone else) before he's trapped in a marriage with her in their mid 30's with several kids and she slowly cuts the sex down to MAYBE three times a year, if at all.

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T14:00:56+00:00

"Nobody wants a woman with dignity. You ever have a girl, when you're doing her doggy style, keeps trying to look back at you? What kind of shit is that?"-Patrice Oneal. lose the chick. She's been used up and is bitter about it. Dumb chicks nowadays don't know that you're supposed to lose your dignity with your husband/LTR, that way he still has intentions to keep her afterwards.. If she loses dignity to a stranger, they both lost something. He lost all respect for women, and she learned that she's not worth respect.. The red pill is a hard swallow even for women.

jasonmiles2014 · 2015-10-14T14:17:45+00:00

The more I read through this, the more I am sickened by this whore.

B_Campbell · 2015-10-14T17:51:46+00:00

She only keeps those pictures of her doing those things to remind herself how much stronger she is now. Lol

MobilePenor · 2015-10-14T18:34:12+00:00

It is sad, really. On one hand, sexual preferences can shift during lifetime. I used to like putting my dick in a woman's ass, now I find it kinda disgusting.

But with women you can never be sure if she really has changed her taste or if she is just using you as beta bux so she just does the minimum.

Of course if she's using "self-respect" as the explanation, you should probably bet on you being the beta bux.

ZioFascist · 2015-10-14T20:31:12+00:00

the funny thing is SHE LOVED getting dicked down in the ass and face fucked by chad. that's the funny part. her bf is a beta dweeb

4juice · 2015-10-14T11:08:13+00:00

Did the beta fiance asked her to do it with him? If he doesn't, he shouldnt expect the girl to do stuff like she did in college back then. He's crying over spilt milk. If he did but the girl in question rejected him, that is another story. Just my opinion.

KissTheBridesmaid · 2015-10-14T13:35:44+00:00

OK The chick is clueless and the comment posters even more so. But in all likelihood, so is the guy in this story.

If he knew how to give her tingles or properly lead her / make things fun for her in the bedroom he would be doing all those things.

Her ex knew how to turn her on. He was uninhibited (as she puts it) and kinky and shameless.

She thinks it was a phase, it was not. It wasn’t ‘just experimenting’, it never is. She would do those things again tomorrow with the right guy and love it.

Limekill · 2015-10-14T14:33:17+00:00

He's supposed to be home tomorrow night and he says he wants to discuss "where this relationship is going" which is anxiety-inducing.

So her BF who she apparently "loves him endlessly" could be ending their relationship and she finds that "anxiety-inducing"...

Poor bastid... and he thought she really loved him....

JihadDerp · 2015-10-14T14:35:57+00:00

Chris Rock has a bit about exactly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNFpQ9Nr1z4

blacwidonsfw · 2015-10-14T14:07:13+00:00

If you hate sucking dick then you don't ever try to learn how to deep throat a cock.

That takes passion and a desire to be really good at something. She explored her sexuality and found she had a natural talent for taking a dick deep down her throat. Now she wants to convince her future beta bucks that it was all about self-esteem.

She's a god damn liar. Why would she keep the photos if she wasn't turned on by them?

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T14:30:33+00:00

Not only they limit their sex positions. They also dry up fast. Without lube it's impossible to finish off with a rubber.

drallcom3 · 2015-10-14T14:36:00+00:00

I'm always amazed that people leave nude pictures and dirty conversations around unprotected. This subreddit wouldn't even be half as fun if people would actually protect their secrets.

evilkenevil · 2015-10-14T14:43:34+00:00

How refreshing the mature woman is. I'm sure she's mature enough to understand why he has other girlfriends besides herself. I'm sure she's mature enough too to also understand that there's very little hope of a future with her. Ah maturity.

jkeegan123 · 2015-10-14T15:09:47+00:00

Sounds like a lot of rationalization to me...it kindof made me sick. What the guy should do is just pack up his shit and leave. Then she will do the only thing that she knows how to do to keep someone 'loving' her. Obviously it's not as callous or black and white as all that, but ... I assume that they have talked about what she will not do with him ... she should try it if he wants to try it. If she does not like it while they are trying it, it will be obvious to him that she is not enjoying herself, but at least he is satisfied that they tried it and it didn't work out. For her to not want to even TRY It says .... that this guy is a meal ticket and that's it. He needs to fucking leave.

Mature_Student · 2015-10-14T17:42:47+00:00

Did it with her ex because she was scared of losing him but obviously isn't quite as attached to her current BF as he isn't worth doing these things for. He is absolutely right to be upset at finding out he isn't as important to her as the ex was, basically she is making it crystal clear that her current man is second best. Also, is it just me or is that subreddit some kind of blue pill headquarters?

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T18:45:55+00:00

Maybe I have been hanging out TRP too long.

Maybe after swallowing TRP a couple of years ago, the long term effects are now taking place.

Maybe I am just jaded.

But I find these posts funny. Really. I smile and think: "It's business as usual in this part of life called reality, because at the end of the day that's what TRP demonstrates, reality as-is no sugar coating.

bloodfoxtrue · 2015-10-14T21:44:44+00:00

Unless she has mountains of cash or something, this man better ditch her in a hurry.

I feel shitty but I'm a little mad

So sorry, but not really sorry?

a1b1no · 2015-10-14T14:19:24+00:00

The "advice" supporting OP in that thread is hilarious, especially this gem: "I guess you didn't throw those pictures away cos to do that you'd have to think about those things, and you didn't want to do that, right?"

OP "hamsters furiously!"

drummmmmergeorge · 2015-10-14T12:59:43+00:00

Her reasoning? She had no 'self-esteem' back then.

This is why I date 18 year olds. Every year my campus is honored with 18 year old dumb, oblivious freshmen. It's so fun.

best_username_ever11 · 2015-10-14T18:48:10+00:00

I think everyone in the archive's comments are kind of missing the point.

All the 'supportive' comments are saying "You shouldn't have to do anything you don't want and if he doesn't understand that, he doesn't deserve you".

All the 'real' comments are saying, "Yup, guy has every right to be pissed. Why'd you keep the photos if you didn't like it?".

Both are wrong. It's okay to try stuff and find out you don't like it. The point is, THE BOYFRIEND DIDN'T GET TO DO ANY OF THIS! He gets her after she gets off the CC and has already done all the wild things she wants to try.

I'm a Christian and I firmly believe this is one of the reasons that it's one man and one woman for life. Find a woman, marry her and fuck the shit out of each other. I don't get why women feel the need to 'experiment' when they are young and then settle down.

I realize some of this is not in keeping with TRP doctrine. A lot of the 'why' of TRP I don't agree with but the conclusions you come to are dead on.

Malabar_Monsoon · 2015-10-14T15:10:03+00:00

Forget all the noise, simple stuff. Dump the chic. Move on, she is not the one.

moose_war · 2015-10-14T23:46:11+00:00

It's like I've seen this story dozens of times before. Because I have.

The woman always keeps videos and pics from her ex boyfriends and fuckbuddies. Why? That right there is the red flag. Why do you need this shit you disrespectful bitch? Seriously.

Then to insult a man like that, the man she supposedly loves. She keeps the souvenirs from the men she went all out for. Virtual cucking. Spitting in her fiancee's face. The worst.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2015-10-14T21:07:04+00:00

And in case you thought this very common story was an outlier, here's yet another incident of the same thing:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/525666-past-threesome-affecting-marriage-now-3.html

tio1w · 2015-10-15T04:12:26+00:00

Then, he feels used, exploited, tricked.

He doesn't just feel that. He was all that.

He really was used, exploited and tricked and he was subjected to that since birth by the people he was supposed to trust.

It's not some kind of delusion.

MegaTheThing · 2016-01-10T22:03:38+00:00

You guys need to grow up. What she does sexually is her choice, it doesn't matter what she has done in the past.

iluminatiNYC · 2015-10-14T10:35:05+00:00

I actually have to disagree with that lie in the OP. Women are actually telling the truth with the whole emotional connection. The truth is more subtle and probably much more painful. It's that women who do these things with different men just don't know how to maintain a connection. Now, if you just want to fuck, that's fine. Knock yourself out, have fun and go on your merry way. I wouldn't try building a relationship with someone who has proven that they can't build off of a connection though.

Past that, if she's that hung up sexually, she's probably a bad lay anyway. If they get along well, I'd just keep it at friends. Past that, on to the next one!

ben0wn4g3 · 2015-10-14T12:10:34+00:00

A lot of the stuff I did in college was because I wanted my ex to love me and I was desperate for affection and I thought being in a relationship meant doing everything the other person wanted. That meant doing stuff I actually didn't like. I'm not that person anymore and I don't think the same way about sex anymore. I do believe in doing stuff for the people you love but I don't do sex stuff anymore that actively turns me off or that I don't enjoy.

Sounds like she regrets this stuff somewhat. She's not that person anymore.

But hell. I'm going to keep the pictures.

rabidrabbity · 2015-10-15T05:20:04+00:00

Grow a pair and move on if this was disturbing. It isn't like there aren't a billion other women.

_TheEndGame · 2015-10-15T06:19:56+00:00

LOL at the deleted comments there

rhodedressing · 2015-10-15T11:54:35+00:00

well im just surprised she hasn't mentioned him leaving yet, that's some fucked up shit.

Great-Band-Name · 2015-10-14T15:48:17+00:00

She feels shity for doing anal.

BallisticTherapy · 2015-10-14T17:53:47+00:00

Did anyone ask the chick why she still has the pictures if it were such a bad experience for her?

Drogo-Targaryen-2012 · 2015-10-14T18:01:58+00:00

She should never make it past fiance status.

Nicholas_ · 2015-10-14T19:20:24+00:00

I honestly think I'd kill myself if that were me.

Fuck EVER getting married ever.

Not even once, not even once in your nightmares not once ever.

[deleted] · 2015-10-14T21:08:02+00:00

Fuck that ho bag. Either bang her the way you want to you or bang someone else. She cannot help or does not want to help her obviously fucked up self.

Ounumen · 2015-10-15T03:11:13+00:00

I wonder if her post wall mom would do it?

taco_roco · 2015-10-15T05:34:01+00:00

As someone who's been helped by the TRP before, who tries to defend TRP every now and then - cause really, i know youre not all this stupid - how can y'all be this stupid?

As anyone should be able to understand with a little bit of thought process. people can change their preferences in life. Were you the same person you were when you were 20? Do you expect a person's lifestyle and preferences to remain static for the rest of their lives?

People can do things they dont like, grow up and realize that's not who they are and decide not to continue. Anal and deepthroating are prime examples. Its not for everyone - And who their partner is could have nothing to do with that, and it may not reflect on their character whatsoever either.

But im sure some of you will simply assume that this alpha-beta dynamic is the end-all-be-all to how relationships work, and that if you do anal once you must always like it, or some other half-baked bullshit philosophy you assume applies to everyone.

smegbot · 2015-10-15T22:01:21+00:00

"... but I'm a little mad at the mentality that just because I did something with one person I have to do them with another..."

Uhh, it's not because you did them, it's because you kept a selfie porn stash of you doing them...why else would you keep them around if they didn't still turn you on?

The real tragedy here is her fiance probably never even tried anything kinky. If he did it was probably lightheartedly or asked politely once and never again afterward after she said "no".

Protip, if you want to get kinky with a women, just do it. You as a man have to completely own that shit (that's how women rationalize doing fucked up things in the sack, they blame it on the guy). The real trick is just using tact and escalating from there.

Want anal, play with her asshole and see where it goes. Want a bj, get a 69 going so your balls are resting nicely on her face (even if she pulls her face away, after a few minutes she will get with the program). You gotta just do it, because she's going to say no if you ask, that's just what women do.

beanx · 2015-10-14T19:20:15+00:00

pretty stoked i saved all the really freaky shit for my husband. no iudgement, just sayin'.

edit: and OMFG, never, ever, EVERRRRRR keep the pics. just dont. recipe for disaster.

[deleted] · 2015-10-15T02:53:10+00:00

Good thing he found this shit when she was a fiance and not his wife. Dodged a bullet there.

[deleted] · 2015-10-15T03:28:32+00:00

No doubt if this woman had a chance encounter with a Chad in the present day she wouldn't hesitate to do those kinky things of her youth...and then some.

CaioSlater · 2015-10-16T12:46:30+00:00

Guys, you have no idea how much hatred these posts induce me... Gosh! Thank god I've found this sub in time. How can someone come to be so beta?

TruthOverLiez · 2015-10-18T03:54:12+00:00

That's why you don't marry American women

Plataneraso · 2015-10-14T12:31:48+00:00

As men, we can't truly understand what motivates a woman to do something like this. I would love to hear a woman's opinion about this issue. I already know what men think, lets get some women talking about this. Do women agree with her logic, and why? Have you done this before? Please educate me.

Title	29 year old woman wants her fiancee to understand she has too much self respect to perform certain sex acts AFTER he finds pictures of her doing these sex acts with her college boyfriend.
Author	cassandrita
Upvotes	808
Comments	339
Date	14 October 2015 08:24 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/37177
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3op5zo/29_year_old_woman_wants_her_fiancee_to_understand/