Never, never, never stay or return to a woman who has cheated on you. No matter what. It is never worth it, you can't fix it, and you will always regret it if you do it.
Don't change her mind, change her mood.
No woman can fix your happiness or be the main source of it. Get your shit together first and improve yourself.
Don't deal with a shitty women. Ever.
Don't be ashamed of your sexual desires or think that girls don't want sex and have to be 'convinced' into having sex with you. When it comes to sex, men are like an on-off switch, women are like a volume knob.
The amount of girls that want their hair pulled, ass slapped, and to be told what to do in bed is astounding.
The guys who are banging girls out of their league are doing it because they went for it.
Look at how she treats her parents/friends.
You need to be BOLD. The sting of rejection is nothing compared to the sting of regret.
Don't feed them with compliments, leave it to the betas. Your eyes should do the talking when she dazzles in that dress.
You want to touch her, she wants to be touched. Be unapologetic about it. Talk simultaneously while you do kino.
Be ready to walk away from any relationship. This also applies to real life, if something doesn't seem right, walk.
Be always less invested than she is. You hold the power.
You can't build attraction over text, use texting for logistics. The face to face interaction is what you need to seek.
Do not make a woman your goal. You're on your own path and she can just join you.
Don't mate guard.
Treat women like human beings, not goddesses.
Women treat relationships like men treat jobs. You may have a fine job--decent pay, vacation, just got a promotion, whatever. You're thinking, "Yeah, I'll probably stick around awhile". Then somebody comes up and asks if you want to be an astronaut at triple your current pay. You couldn't put in your resignation fast enough.
A monkey doesn't let go of the branch its on until it has another branch in hand.
Swing at everything, you miss 100% of the chances you don't take. There are no special snowflakes, they're turning 18 everyday.
If you want true love, get a dog.
She's not yours, it's only your turn.
Hookers cost less than girlfriends and go away when you tell them to. Just saying.
They have their mobile phones near them at ALL times, and i mean ALL, no matter what they are doing (or what is being done to them). if they want to contact you immediately, they can and will. so if you message them and they do not text you back until a few days later, they are deliberately ignoring your ass.
It doesn't matter how long you've been with a woman, how many memories you have together, or how much effort you've put in...she will forget you in less than a week and move onto the next guy.
Women want someone to take care of them but they want to feel like they are taking care of themselves
Dont stick your dick in crazy (trust me) and wrap your shit
What women truly want is value. They want a combination of things that excite their dopamine receptors, none of which come directly from you loving her. She wants your value; your status, your wealth, your protection, and your comfort.
Don't forget to lift :)
This hit home hard
I learned my lesson
Yep, had a date with this girl once. I thought it went great. She texted "sorry you weren't interested." soon as I drove away. Never heard from her again.
A rejected sexual advance will rarely hurt your chances, with the huge caveat of it being calibrated properly.
Escalation isn't rocket science. Failure to escalate when she thinks you're alpha is disaster.
Experienced this recently, fuck me.
Old post, but just happened to me. Shit.
it will never hurt your chances.
She will say no because she's completely not into you. This saves you time and is a huge favor.
-or- She will say no because she's making you wait. This is OK, you can calculate how much waiting is worth to you and how long you want to wait. But she'll view you as a sexual being and she will know you're connecting on a sexual level. If she turns that into indefinite waiting it's up to you to cut bait and move on.
If she's going to think "eww, what a creep he wanted to have sex with me" ... fuck that. Move on.
Me and my bro have had several occasions where have escalated down to top off and tit sucking but no sex. plowed too hard so girl got cold feet on next meetup "oh no, im gonna be expected to put out" so they dont meet. The lesson is, dont push too hard past her resistance. A hand full of attempts is worth a try, after that its ruining future dates and u can blow out
i too learned this the hard way.
Can comfirm. I got nexted becaus I didint push through LMR. LMR is the final shit test.
Yup definitely learned this the hard way.
Unless. Unless they are stinky. I just can't do it B. HOT as fuck? Great! HOT as fuck but stinky? Noooooo.....I'm out
"Your nose knows", trust Toucan Sam on that
Lolol that niga used to say "follow your nose"....yeah...follow it right the fuck away from her.Lolol
Meh don't stick your dick in a crazy though.
45. Look at her actions, not her words
Don't even listen to what they say, they have nothing interesting to say most of the time, or they try to manipulate you with their words, or it's just drama and you will have better answers to your questions by watching their behavior without asking anything.
As I say, man up and do what your old man does. Don't listen to women.
Most of us have beta old man. We wouldn't be here otherwise.
Fair enough. Mine is like a mixture of both, and I'm still here.
Robert Greene said it best when he said words are used to deceive
TRP newbie here, why does everyone on this sub repeatedly switch the words "women" and "woman" in meaning?
Being new here, what do these numbers refer to?
I am convinced that everything else is pretty much a byproduct of realizing this.
This was the cardinal mistake I made in my marriage, I based my happiness on hers. I look back now and hate my earlier me for being so weak.
I have a coworker who's about to get married and is so whipped it's hard for me to watch. I keep telling him to read this stuff but he won't open his eyes.
Some people are never even ready to hear about the RP, forget swallowing it. I would say it's their self-limiting BP behavior where they place pussy on the pedestal without even trying for it in the wild. Good that you made the hint to him. He'll be back crying if he doesn't realize RP truths fast enough.
Dont forget to have fun , though.
This needs to be higher up It's why we're in the game
Exactly. Men require danger and play. That is the very reason we game chicks.
1 - Her past is a direct prediction of her future
Damn, has this been true in your experience?
Jesus Christ bro, it's a Red Pill rule. Women never change their behavior. If she's a cheater she'll always be a cheater. If she's a slut who can't commit she'll always be a slut who can't commit. If she's an unhappy miserable bitch she will always be an unhappy miserable bitch. Whatever went down with her last man is probably how it'll go down with you.
I agree to a point. In my experience it's true 90% of the time.
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Yeah I feel you. I'm glad for trp though, it's taught me to not prioritize sex and to view it as supplemental to your already awesome life. Not sure if this was the intent but it's how I took it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Precisely, that is because of the evolutionary edge they have. Not directly meaning men are just some foolish muscular brats but due to care-taking and rearing, they are good at deciphering signals when a man lies and know how to avoid those when she does it.
I vividly remember one post in TRP where there was an research on school children and the results were not surprising. Girls had better developed regions of the brain, had superior motor and analytical skills than a boy of the same age and a similar upbringing and was analyzed in tune with their parent's IQ.
the other 10% of the time she's special and the rules don't apply to her?
People learn their tricks and what works works. People maximize their own self benefit. If she is the kind of person who wants to fuck 10 guys in parallel and try to keep them in the dark about it, then yes, when she is your girlfriend she will continue doing this.
Because she likes it.
She won't suddenly stop liking it because of how awesome you are. You can't invest anything in thinking that people spontaneously change because they don't.
People want to believe that their girlfriend or boyfriend is going to change pretty much for one reason: it confirms their own belief in their own special snowflake status.
This serial cheater has reformed because of me. They turned over a new leaf because of my intervention because I am so special, I shock and awed them into a new way of thinking.
All it is, is self flattery. No, you're not going to make them be something that they were not before.
If she's fucking clever, she's going to stay fucking clever. If she's so clever and so proud of herself that she lets you in on some of her past exploits, it just means that she's arrogant. She's gotten away with so much shit that she feels like she can tell you about it and still get away with the same kind of shit but with you. Because you're stupid, or you're in love, or you think she's a special snowflake or you think you're a special snowflake.
If you refuse to delude yourself about yourself, then she can't delude you.
This is Sun Tzu level shit. He who doesn't know himself will lose every battle. He who knows himself but does not know the enemy will win one for every one he loses. He who knows himself and knows the enemy will triumph in every battle.
Believing the Disney bullshit is falling into the first category. About yourself or about them.
Dude that's not even what I was saying. I wasn't talking about in regards to relationships. Just over all life attitude and choices they make
Hire from the Record, not the Interview.
Easy to say, but hard to do. HP(Q) could have saved shareholders about $60 billion dollars this way.
It has been in mine, so many times!
Put another way....if it Floats, Flies, or Fucks, it's cheaper to rent.
Fornicates. Somebody's been reading Felix Dennis.
saved and written on paper ASAP
I had this quote on the rear window of my car until it was scratched off by some pussy boy or a whore.
36) Be passionate about something. Find a hobby that fits you and then be very good in it. If you can't talk about it for hours you're doing it wrong.
37) Always fuck her like it is your last fuck.
38) Lead.
39) Don't try to fix her if she's damaged goods, next her instead.
40) Compliment lifting with MMA/boxing or other combat sport.
41) Always keep two in the kitty.
When did you or anyone else reading start practicing a combat sport?
I'm in my mid twenties and I'm just starting to realize that a fighting discipline might be what I've been looking for all along. I've always had a boner for technique, agility and finesse. Unknowingly, I used competitive video games as a placebo for that because they offer a small version of that. Now I just feel like I'm too old to get into that shit and I might just end up getting fucked up.
I don't have any delusions of a professional career, but I'm curious on how many people my age start up vs younger guys in their teens. I'd love to learn how to defend myself, and I'm not at all someone who starts fights, but I'd be incredibly pleased to have something in my back pocket in case circumstances beyond my control occur.
I'm 28, and started training Krav Maga a few months ago. My only experience with martial arts was some karate back in my teens, so I came into this very much a neophyte. My experience so far has been very positive:
The classes are an excellent mix of HIIT, technique and combat philosophy, and physical contact/applied practice. Its not going to make me a skilled fighter in the way seriously training boxing or MMA or Muy Thai would... but I think it trains excellent combat fundamentals in a framework centered on how you'll probably need to apply them in a 'real-life' fight. This is the same general (if not exact) style of training police and military will typically train their service members in. It's not pretty, but it works.
Martial training has proven an excellent combination with my weight-lifting as well. My endurance and stamina has gone way up too. Your situation sounds similar to my own, so I'd encourage you to explore your interest. Find some high-rated gyms near you of whatever style(s) strike your fancy and go take a look. Any place worth training at should be able to give you a free class or two if you call ahead and express interest.
Will do. How's Krav Maga compared to MMA gyms? Would you say it has utility? There's plenty of Krav Maga places around me as well as MMA gyms like American Top Team, so it seems like those are the prominent choices.
Martial Style comparisons are one of those things everyone has an opinion on. I'm not an expert fighter, I haven't trained for decades in every style imaginable. So take my reply for what its worth.
IMHO, the style you practice is entirely flavor. Some styles focus on aspects A, B, and C, others focus on X,Y, and Z. Good fundamentals are good fundamentals, and there is a certain transfer-ability of skill from one martial form to another once you are experienced. In that sense, I'd recommend finding a gym you actually enjoy going to and has the training intensity you are comfortable with. MMA gyms are great, but if you aren't prepared to bust your ass, you'll burn out and walk away with a negative experience and no new skills to show for it.
MMA is a duelist's art form. You train MMA to take somebody apart in a 1 on 1 fight with certain specific restrictions put into place. To train MMA even semi-seriously is brutal HIIT cardio training, alongside endless boxing/muy thai and grappling. If you want to absolutely know you can take somebody apart, train for it and achieve your goal.
Krav has a different focus. Rather than teaching you honorable duelist mastery, it focuses on keeping you alive. Multiple attackers, weapons, choke defense, getting off the ground, maintaining situational awarness, etc. Strikes are simple and effective - you won't find any techniques here that can't be taught and practiced quickly by newcomers. Defeating your opponent through grappling on the ground is actively discouraged, as a street-fight has a high likelihood of having friends, weapons, or nasty terrain you don't want to roll around on.
Any style you train in a serious manner will instill discipline, confidence, and some degree of badassery to handle the world with. The details are really just flavor for you to pick, and nothing says you can't mix and match over time as your preferences, skill, and situation changes. Much like lifting, the most important aspect is to go regularly and challenge yourself. Everything else will follow in time.
Hey, you sound like you know your shit. I'm just curious on where does kung fu fall on the martial art-spectrum. Those guys breaking bricks with their bare hands and delivering high powered punches an inch away from an oppopent is impressive but I don't buy into the chi or chakra or whatever energy flow they're mentioning. What's your take on this ?
Thanks, thats really what I'm looking for then as my main turn off to grappling is that it is impractical in a situation where there is more than one person. I'm not training necessarily to learn how to fight others, but it is something different than just going to the gym. I enjoy the movement and the process of refining a style, it is just calming to me. It's a unique connection to your body.
Regarding utility, no matter the MA you study, you should never fight. There are situations where you are forced to, but 99% of the time your fighting skills will mean nothing.
I agree. When I say situations I'm forced to, I really mean forced to. As in, I cannot even run away. There's too many variables in a street fight. I'm not in the mood to get seriously injured just for a stupid fight, and the last thing I need is to knock someone down and they hit their head and fucking die and then I go to jail for defending myself.
As you say as well, fighting IRL is a completely different beast. I'm of the opinion that if you want to learn how to fight on the streets then the only thing you can do is fight on the streets.
Hey that's awesome. I have been working out for few years and was thinking of combining it with some sort of martial arts. Any suggestions on where to look? I am the same age as you, so I wasn't too sure on where to look. I tried google, but didn't really help much.
I've been considering starting a combat sport as well and i'm 26 . I have been focusing on losing weight and once i am at a healthy BMI i want to have a body i believe in . My point is ditto i would love to know if there is such a thing as getting involved in the martial arts or combat sports too late and any recommendation on where to start.
Just start man, you will lose weight training and it's heaps of fun. I started about 2 months ago and found that the guys there are all very friendly and accepting of everybody
26 here as well. I start MMA tomorrow Having the confidence to defend yourself is invaluable and attractive to women That and I have a feeling it will give you a good network of new friends and connections
Lifelong martial artist here.
Go for it.
Even at 60 you can start practicing, you just have to pick a martial art that your body can handle, and at 26 you are still young.
What martial art do you practice?
I will chime in.
I'm 50 and practice MMA. Been doing it for roughly 4 years or so. Every week I do 4x jiu-jitsu, 3x boxing, 2x judo. All at the same school. At home I also throw in some yoga stretches every morning. I manage to stay competitive with guys who are decades younger.
Am I the best? Hell no. Get my ass beat as often as I deliver a beat down. Is it easy? Hell no! Every day I wake up and I feel aches and pains. Some days I feel my body can barely keep up. But damn. This is the greatest activity I have done in my entire life. Never felt better or more confident. I hope and pray that I can continue doing this until I am 80!
You can start training at any age, though it's rare to see anyone older than 60 around. And if you are under 30 - consider yourself lucky. You are YOUNG and can easily start training and have a blast. Things only start slowing down in your mid 40s. And even then you can keep it up for decades longer if you eat right, stretch and maintain a disciplined mindset.
I began with judo then turned to aikido. Then, i trained in tai chi/qi gong/kung fu. Then boxing and now krav maga.
Started at 14 with Karate, got my black belt, transferred over to Jiu-Jitsu at 21, now instructing. Martial arts not only humbles you (especially jiu-jitsu, being smashed by beasts on a weekly basis), but gets you normalized to handling stressful situations successfully and knowing if a situation ever became physical, you could handle yourself fairly decent, or at the least, minimize greatly the damage received.
Mid twenties is usually the median age for most MMA gyms I feel. It's where most men start to be more financially stable and can drop the 100-150 bucks of extra income for training. You wont see many broke mcdonald workers there so it filters a lot of younger dudes.
I don't want to say it but that's what I'm waiting for, a slight financial stability. I'm awaiting a security clearance while getting an MS and working two part time jobs. I cannot wait to move
I started muay thai and bjj when I was 23. There were more than a couple blue belts over 50, my bjj instructor I belive is 43, and his dad is a black belt still doing it in his 70s. You can take the classes without competing, and generally what we do is go full speed, low power. No one will make fun of you or beat your ass being 25. Sign up, man.
For sure, Muay Thai is actually what I was leaning toward. What is it like?
Lots of footwork, lots of form work. Nothings worth doing that isn't worth doing it right. Expect to spend the first couple weeks learning your stance, moving in your stance, and throwing simple stuff like jabs and crosses, maybe with occasional kicks, and then the next couple months making them better and consistent.
I imagine it's similar in most places, but my academy was like a family. We're all there to learn and get better. If you missed a guard and something got through, no one laughed, no one yelled, the guy that slipped by you helped you up and you got back to it and you both bettered yourselves. I miss it though, I moved away for my job, and now I haven't made it back in months. I need to find another one nearby, honestly.
Weird. Most folks in your position end up obsessing over HEMA/WMA.
Just looked that up, is that Western Martial Arts and Historic European Martial Arts?
What/why do you mean most people in my position end up obsessing over that?
Anthony Bourdain got his blue belt at 60 y/o
I'm 47, started kendo at 44. Got my first degree black belt (shodan ) on my 47 th birthday. Never too old!
Fuck her like you hate her, not like you love her.
Dammit this has been my downfall. I hate fuck her at first but let myself get too attached.
Lick it like you love it and fuck it like you hate it
Lovey fucks are good too, moderation is key, you just need to mix it up
Sex God Method by Daniel Rose.
Fucking right, getting a black belt in kung fu not only made me more fit and confident but it saved my ass a couple times in street fights (that being said, I don't recommend starting fights....martial arts for defence only).
Is there something like this for people with disabilities ? (especially partially/fully paralyzed people) Very difficult to be a badass when you can barely walk and a stiff breeze will knock you over.
Look into paralympic sports and strength training.
A lot of disabled and partially paralyzed people have had success with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. One of its creators, Helio Gracie, suffered himself from a condition which rendered him permanently frail, and largely influenced its design.
How many Gracies are there, geez. I have to google this now.
I think you might like it http://kali-yuga.org/?p=487
Texting for logistics? Fuck. That.
What is a woman's porn? Romance Novels. 50 Shades, etc. READING.
Texts let her fill in the mental blanks with what you say as well as don't. It's been shown that strong textual game breaks down the walls to the point that when you first meet, it's as if you've been on 2 dates off the bat. Those who use it for strictly logistics are those who have nothing of value to say to keep her interest.
Guaranteed if you aren't, someone else is.
Then when you first meet, continue from where your last text ended. So many drop the ball on this. If you've texted a day / week and are finally meeting, don't start off, "Hey, I'm TextualIntercourse". Just carry on exactly where you ended your last text. If you have half a brain and a shred of even mild creativity, it should be an extension of your conversation.
If not, sure, then use it for just logistics and make sure your A game is on kino point. I make my lays as fast and easy as possible, texting kills it in my world.
here's another texting point. Absence.
An alpha that I know had several girlfriends. I was having drinks with him while his main girlfriend was texting away at him. He's pick up his phone, check it, and put it down.
I told him at some point (now seems kind of stupid), "Aren't you going to answer her? You're probably driving her crazy." (duh)
He said, "I am making her happy. She is with her friends. I am giving her something to talk about. They are talking about me. They are wondering where I am, who I am with, and what I'm doing. She will ask her friends what they think. She will tell her friends what she thinks. Then she'll text me again."
Eventually he'd give her an answer. But the absence of his presence created a void into which she would pour herself. If he fired off something every time she wrote to him it would be far, far less interesting.
This guy understood on a very intimate level how her brain was working and he pressed all the right buttons. Gave her enough play in the rope, and also gave her enough feedback to keep her craving more.
I was enlightened.
I want that dude as a friend.
This is one piece of TRP advice that I also disagree with, for myself.
I write damn good innuendo and smut, I write it better than I can say it. I've used text in manners that had the girl on me within minutes.
That said, yes it can backfire (and has). Yes it can fail, yes it can show too much neediness and attention.
But sometimes it works like novacaine, so I use it as the situation fits.
I suppose it's a "YMMV" thing.
it's an opportunity as well to experiment on how they're going to handle some kinds of information. Tell her what you're going to do to her when you get her alone. She may not like it, in which case you save some time. She may though feel that you've given her license to be a sexual being and that may be a relief to her.
Texting her, "Hi babe, wondering how you're doing. Thinking of you. Miss you so much. Hope you're happy. How is your day going? My day is a bit boring because I'm not with you, staring into your eyes. Wish you were here." ... that's a waste of time.
Fucking exactly. Thank you for elucidating like that, this is exactly what I mean.
I'm not texting going "I miss you pretty girl, you're so lovely and nice oh my."
It's usually more along the lines of (if short) things like. "Hey Trouble, been thinking about those lovely soft lips of yours. Can't wait till I get back to town and can put them to good use."
This is obviously not verbatim or anything, nor what I refer to as "smutting" which usually unfolds if the girl responds well to something simple like above. I'll get fucking descriptive.
I've had it be a complete crash and burn, but more often than not, It's given me some rather amazing results. I can tell them some really fucked up shit once they get into the game... which makes doing that fucked up shit in person an -expectation- not just a possibility. Also, texting it out seems to make some of them much much much more comfortable with getting really dirty, you can test their limits and their barriers before you even have to try it in person.
I keep it teasing and sexual as a rule.
Also, just a personal note, damn girls love being called Trouble. It's become one of my often used "pet" names for girls early in the logistics because I've had so damn much luck with it. It's like just by calling them Trouble, I already pull them into a more deviant and sexual frame of mind. No explanation on that one and another YMMV situation, but Dirty Girl, Naughty Girl, and Trouble, all seem to give me good results. The more uptight/good girlish the girl seems... the more effective it is.
I named my plate Tsunami and her squirts proved I was right.
100% agree. Text game is gold if you're good at it. Women love to read porn and that's what you're providing.
Pro tip: text her at work, ask her what color panties she's wearing, make her go to the bathroom and take them off, tell her to send you a picture of her panties on her desk, tell her she can't touch her pussy and throw some creatively nasty scenarios about what you're going to do to her with your fingers, cock, and mouth while she's sitting at her desk. She will be soaking her chair and drive straight to your house when she gets off work.
My second wife and I spent nearly a decade building what I felt was a stable and sure empire-of-two then one day, poof!, with not a single fuck given. 9 years with her and she still hung on my arm all gooey retarded. Then one day I come home to an empty house.
And of course it didn't take long to figure out that
Stay away from single mothers.
Single mothers need a good dicking too
then you should wrap it twice
EDIT: this was a joke, DO NOT wear 2 condoms at once, EVER, its unsafe and stupid and probably you wouldnt even feel them sweet walls
wearing two condoms makes them easier to break
so wear a condom AND pull out
true true, i know and i never have used 2 at once.... i meant that to be a joke
It's all about the feeling keith
go DEEP INSIIIIIDE
and just leave em nuts hangin out! yeah! yeeeeeeah!
Some of that mushroom tip action
Love this one!
"I'm a single mom ..."
-"K, bye."
As a younger guy who likes milfs how could I game them. Like how would it be differently than girls my age 18 going into college Because obv they wouldn't see me as child support beta and only alpha fux
Your best shot is to read the side bar and live it. Then get on a site like Match (it costs money but the quality of women is so much higher than free sites) or plenty of fish or okcupid even Tinder.
Send the hottest milfs messages. Target age group is 45-55. Something like, "Hi, I'm Chad and I'm 18 and I think you are so sexy! Let's talk."
You will get laid. Older women love to brag to their friends about how young the guys are they fuck.
I was thinking 30-40 and would it be almost impossible to cold approach because it would just look weird and she wouldn't expect it at all
30-40 will be much tougher because the aren't in to the whole cougar thing.
If you don't approach you're never going to work this.
numbers. might not happen the first time, but if you keep it up, you'll get better and better at it. youll eventually find one, then another.. and another.. etc.
just keep trying.
trial and error. you'll get there-- but only if you try.
Because all they want is a provider? What if they are financially capable themselves?
No. Because: They are a widow. No matter how shitty she tells you he was, she had his baby. There's a reason she's single and a mother and she's probably why.
You will as a man naturally take on a fatherly role. Your relationship with her isn't going to last. You will hurt a child when it goes south.
Her ability to bond with you in a real loving sense and her willingness to stay with you when bad things happen are irreparably damaged.
Either that or they are BPD basket case insane. You'd be surprised how many narcissistic/beta men leave a woman that's unbearable and doesn't give them sex. All it takes is another crazy woman that does give it to them.
That's what happened to my parents at least.
I bang single moms. Just gotta be sure of their craziness before you get too deep. If they leave the kids out of your convos and shit, no worries.
Use positive and affirmative language. It conditions you to act, not to react.
I.e. it's "Remember to lift :)" instead of "Don't forget to lift :)"
42) Never EVER get involved in her family issues. Just next her instead.
43) Bros before hos, always.
44) Run from BDP girls. Serious.
BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder? If so, I'm confirming this is good advice.
"run from BPD girls"
Can't stress this enough. My dumb ass got in a LTR with one for three years, fuck that shit. That's why I'm here.
Edit: Just want to add that one day she put on this big dramatic act, and I got tired of the bullshit and dumped her. Doing so much better, got some of my confidence back, started working out every day.
How do you recognise a BPD girl anyway ?
She starts by love bombing you early on and the sex is amazing
You feel like it's too good to be true and this must be the love of your life.
She becomes a chameleon, copying all of your interests
These are the early signs, Google for the others. They get you hooked on them (idealization), then start tearing you down (devaluation) before they leave you in the most devastating, humiliating way possible (discard).
All of this gives the sadistic bitches an intoxicating ego boost.
Christ. Scary how much this sounds like my last relationship. I ended the engagement once I realized how deep in the devaluation stage I was. Never again.
I almost lost my job. My college, My life? Haha It was a mess. Thank god i found TRP.
I'll add another voice to the comments here. I got out of a 5-year LTR with a woman that is on the low end of the BPD spectrum. No violence, no self harm, drug use or insane meltdowns, and I was still left a shell of my former self.
Even if they only BPD a tiny bit. RUN!
Same here but 4y, the shit was serious. But um glad cuz of this i found TRP.
Most women register on the spectrum tho
As someone working in the psychiatric field right now, I can confirm 100%
Literally all women are crazy
Would you mind giving your thoughts on something that's been bothering me?
Are we really mislabeling a shit ton of children with ADD/ADHD? Or is it just that we never cared in years past so kids went undiagnosed?
This turned out longer than I expected. Tl;dr at end.
That's a loaded question, and the answer as usual is somewhere in between, but I'll do my best to answer (everyone has a differing opinion on this).
I don't think that we are necessarily mislabeling kids (and many, many adults these days) with ADD/ADHD. Of course there are clinicians that over-medicate, but I think it's a real problem because of how society has changed even in one generation.
The average human these days processes information in one day in orders of magnitude more than they did even 10 or 20, let alone 100 years ago. This is much faster than humans can evolve, but is an inevitable part of civilization's progress. Of course this is part of the reason why so many people are having trouble focusing and is not going to get better any time soon.
The type of information we consume is also becoming different as we are exposed to many short bursts of data in rapid intervals (ie. reddit, or the mainstream news cycle). An example of this would be the fact that ADHD is far more common in city dwelling urbanites than say in kids out on farms who spend a lot of time outdoors (oversimplification, but you get the picture).
By no means is the above the only reason for increased diagnoses, as this leads to your second question. Of course in the past doctors had much less information about ADD/ADHD and how it worked and kids who acted out because of their symptoms were often just seen as being misbehaved. It's not that we didn't care, it's just that we didn't really know any better. We didn't even realize a lot of adults have it too!
I sometimes work with drug addicts at outpatient centers, often there because of becoming entangled in the legal/corrections/law enforcement clusterfuck that don't know/care at all about mental health except to lock it up and throw away the key. I'd say 60% of the adults are ADD/ADHD and never been treated. They start self-medicating with illegal drugs at a young age and with no one to notice the symptoms, spiral out of control . When we start treating them with ADHD drugs it's crazy how their lives can turn around.
OK I didn't mean to turn this into an essay, but it's been on my mind a lot because of the work I've been doing..hope it helps..
tl;dr: yes, some kids were mislabeled but a lot of it is because of our information driven society. 2. It's not because we didn't care, it's because we didn't know better and thought kids with ADD were just acting out and needed a spanking.
How can you tell if she has BPD?
Crazy is a good description.
Mean to those she can dominate physically or mentally.
For example screaming and ranting at a child for not respecting her enough.
She will be a huge slut but she will hate sluts and every woman she knows she thinks is a slut.
She'll do shit to harm herself. Like cutting or spending all her rent money on a tattoo.
She'll sleep around on you and make damn sure you know she did.
She'll be a huge narcissist and yet hate herself.
I could go on. Basically, a cunt.
My ex GF exactly. Except she hid the cheating from me because she knew I'd ditch her ass. I didnt find out till after I broke up with her.
You left something out though, If she wants you, she'll act like a unicorn until she has you. She'll seem like the perfect girl that will do anything and everything for you, then when she has you she'll show her true colors as a sociopathic raging bitch, leaving you woshing you had the old version of her back. She'll drain the confidence, self-esteem, money and happiness out of you to her fullest ability. Yeah, fuck that bitch.
I think we have the same ex girlfriend
Did we all date the same girl? Is that possible?
AND, she has NO remorse. She even knows what she is doing. Yep, RUN.
It's what you get when you combine backwards ass morals, a sociopath, and pussy. Pretty much a succubus.
Weird how they trick you into loving them at first.
Afterwards, they usually give the cliche saying of how they're always changing and this us who she is now, not was. Bitches be evolving like pokemon.
Evolved? more like bitch went and devolved into the hoe from wence she came.. lmfao
These are extremes and might not be seen upon first glance.
I think the real tell early in the attraction phase is how exciting she is and how much she escalates. After all the bpd woman is afraid of being abandoned so she has honed her charms to keep her victims in awe of her awesomeness.
"spending all her rent money on a tattoo"
Are you saying getting a tattoo anytime is BPD, or spending all your available money on one is?
Spending your rent money on a tattoo, would be self harm.
Because of the money, the fact that ink is going in your skin, or both is what I meant.
If TRP was the Catholic Church, this post would be the Stations of the Cross.
I would add: and how she treats restaurant workers and other service staff.
yeah, how anyone treats waiters and service stuff its something i always paid attention to, even before TRP... it just says sooo much
What should have been stickied:
Wear a condom, wear a condom, get a vasectomy, still wear a condom.
Wrap it in latex or she'll be gettin your paychecks.
Stds are more of a worry than pregnancy
HIV/AIDS : Medication every day until you die (naturally and not because of it) and a minor problem
pregnancy : AT BEST you pay "rent" for 18 years for a house you can't even use on the weekends.
They have conveniently changed this to 23 years of age in my country... don't know when or who did it but child is five and I will STILL be paying for another 18 years FFS...
Where do you live? How this even works? The mother will get free money after the kid is an adult for 5 years while the "kid" gets a job and makes his own money or how it works?
Or, if you don't want the permanent outcome of a vasectomy, wait a year for vasalgel to arrive. Until then, use condoms you bring and dispose of, so she can't damage before or scoop out after sex.
Is it coming to North America in a year? I thought that was just the clinical trials. I seriously can't wait for this shit
33) Don't waste your time with a girl who won't put out.
34) Never get married.
35) Don't get into an LTR with a slut.
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No, stop. We're better than them
I didn't learn this one until college:
Which, as it turned out, was both Bad and Good
The Bad was simply that I didn't get much traction with the girls in high school... second base at best for the most part because after looking at those days with the Red Pill LensTM,
I was actually talking myself out of fucking these girls because of this misconception that women didn't like sex and had to be "convinced".
The Good was that if I had pushed through my reluctance, and what was basically just the standard ASD from these girls, I would have gotten one pregnant and ended up in the Midwestern, Bible Belt horror story of your choice. Something that I saw ( and still see) play out over and over when I visit my family there.
1 Women lie. It's an out right lie, a half truth, a white lie, a manipulation with a hint of truth.
Women have no honor, no accountability, no chivalry, and no shame.
All women fuck on the first date if they see you as alpha.
No woman over 21 has a low n count. You masterbate, she swipes Tinder, gets a free meal, drinks and a lay.
Women cheat. An attractive woman is going to be propositioned every day, several times a day. Doesn't matter what relationship she's in, she's going to say yes eventually and then she's going to say yes more and more often.
The more attractive a woman is the more likely she will have sex.
You are the prize. You meet women in order to give them the opportunity to pursue you.
You don't need a ltr or a wife. Truth is you must learn to be happy alone before you can truly be happy.
You should always work for what you want. Nothing of value is free or easy.
Money matters. Save your money. Things come and go and never make you happy.
can you explain your logic on #5?
The more attractive she is the more aware she is that she can manipulate men with sex.
I don't know if it what he meant but right now I have a gf who is a little chubby and it always takes a while to fucker her because she is self conscious about her body. I want to break up with her but I made the huge mistake to go out with someone from class... And she is suuuuuper in love with me and on top of that sensitive. I don't know how to do it. Anyways girls who don't think they are sexy won't be having a lot of sex because they always have thoughts about the partner not finding them attractive in their minds. I think
The longer you stay, the more "suuuupppeeeerr in love" she is going to get. The longer you allow yourself to stay with her the harder it's going to be for you to move on. Do it now. Do it and don't look back, shit happens, life moves on. Don't settle. Don't allow yourself to be guilt tripped into that bullshit. Be a man and deal with it. The sooner the better.
Yeah I plan on doing it soon. Just not after having sex for the first time yesterday. She is going to think I only used her. I'm not a women hating redpill alpha yet (no offense to anyone) but I lurk this sub sometimes because it does offer some valueable advice sometimes. I do plan on becoming a better man but I do respect women and If I can minimize the damage done to a girls heart I will do my best to do so. I really like her as a person just not sexually but she is super vulnerable so I have to find a way to break up and make her feel like it's because of me.
You break up yet man? Looking at top posts if the week. If you think you want to break up, you do want to break up. Letting it linger just makes you both resentful.
hey man I have not broken up yet. I tried on Saturday but I made the mistake of telling her it's because I don't want her to get hurt by me and my issues (being bipolar for instance) so she just refused to accept it. it's really hard for me since its my first relationship and on top of that we see each other every night at school. I think I'll just do it tonight after school and get it over with. will report when I do it
As I woman I know once put it, "That girl who is wearing the hot, sexy outfit at work? I guaranty you she is not thinking about financial spreadsheets all day"
The ones that look hot, are hot.
Well it could just be a jealous older bitch (since you called her woman / about a 'girl' i presume age difference) simply judging a book by the cover and also more or less marking her territory by attempting to put down the younger competition in the eyes of males in her territory (slut shaming?). How else could she compete otherwise? Maybe the sexy one is intelligent too or even more than the woman you know.
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I see where you are coming from, but he's saying that you should be internally motivated and self satisfied. Needing someone for happiness is very value seeking which is in turn lower value.
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No I agree with you completely in a practical sense. In reality, we're all externally motivated to some extent. What I am saying is being grounded in your purpose and not being outcome dependent is the very thing that is attractive to not just women, but the world. I like your microeconomics analogy though, good shit.
you can have sex because it's fun, and then still be alone and enjoy the solitude. It's not an either/or situation, orbit and make a woman your life -or- be a monk.
30) Dont Fall in love with them. Love is a chemical reaction that makes animals want to breed, nothing else. Love isnt real.
31) Dont fuck your bro over for a chick, unless you dont care about losing a friend.
32) Bitches come and go, never chase them.
I agree with the sentiment but there's no thought or body function that isn't a product of "chemical reaction" that is configured by nature for a specific function. Your brain is as good as a body organ as your stomach. Your post is the result of neurons firing at the right time, for fuck's sake.
Unless you believe that your soul is the causal force for your body functions, in which case I just don't even know what to say.
A better way to say it is "be aware that your brain and body acts on its own, notice it and be mindful on what you act on". Boom, we hit "love", "fear", "anger", "not fooling around like a fucking retard" all in one swing. That's as stoic as it gets. And start meditating.
Relevant SMBC
The human brain is the most powerful tool in the known universe. There are plenty of stomachs out there, many animals have them, they all work. The human brain is unique in its unparalleled ability.
I would not equate it to "just as good as your stomach". Your stomach processes food, your brain is capable of destroying the entire planet.
But without your stomach, you couldn't destroy the planet to begin with.
Its true, you can't commit planetary genocide on an empty stomach.
I'm just imagining Darth Vader sitting in the Death Star slurping a milk shake through his respirator.
I think we have something external, too. But overall I agree with your sentiment.
Rise above, morty. Break the cycle. Focus on science.
Was actually thinking about that while I was writing this. Rick is quite RP now that I think about it.
He's also one of the saddest guy i've seen, maybe the saddest, as he sees the universe for what it truly is lol
True. That sadness comes from the death of optimism in him, and cold hard realist logic & rationale. Ignorance is bliss, enlightenment is depression. When you know the truth of the universe as he does, I assume you just go nihilist like he does. Hence wubbalubbadubdub & his drinking all the time.
Perhaps a bit more towards MGTOW.
And that's the waaaaaaay the news goes.
Such a great show. Can't wait till season 3. One of the only shows I watch.
Love IS real.
Love your woman when you are 100% sure she is yours. But do not 100% trust her. Or anyone for that matter.
You can stand on your own feet.
You do not need her. Never need her. But want her as much as you can.
She is never 100% yours. Do not love her, that is too much investment. Like her, don't love her. Like her, enjoy her, but dont love or be needy. Love is the tingles killer.
"I might lose, so I'm no going to play." - a four year old
Also, you can have tingles and love. I know because I've done it.
Great list.
I'd modify this rule and say that a woman who has cheated on you is fine as a plate and nothing more.
Good advice. You need to have standards. When you invite a woman into your life, even as a plate, you give her the power to seriously fuck your shit up. Check out my submission: Even for a one-night stand or friend-with-benefits, the character of a woman is still important.
The more general rule: if she is attracted to you, she will find a way to contact you, visit you, and fuck you. If she makes excuses then she's not attracted and she's just wasting your time and it doesn't matter how many times she says she misses you.
Guys need to remember that the whole point of dating is to have sex. You literally need to feel her out to see if she is down to fuck.
As I always say: Start out with light physical escalation but make sure you are following a pattern of progressive overload by gradually going heavier in definite increments. If you fail, de-load 10% and try again.
Fortune favors the bold and so do women.
Don't tolerate bad behavior. Example: If she cancels a first date on the day of, don't respond. Next her.
Assume everything she says is a shit test. Start from there, work backwards.
Sex in three dates. If not, next her.
Don't let her get away with anything. If she's late, mention it. If she's leaving her shit at your place, tell her to take it next time.
Typical second date should be: Have her cook for you, then thank her by fucking her brains out.
Make her text you seflies before you meet in person. Make her invested in you as early as possible.
Lift, build wealth, crush shit tests, hold frame, and for fucks sake be responsible for your own happiness.
this is a great list, remembering the KISS rule Keep It Simple Stupid, 80% of what you need is right here in this one post, and 80% of the rest of what you read on here is a beta circle-jerk.
Checklists, it's how Pilots and Surgeons work ... is she sucking your dick on a regular basis ? Check.
Sometimes I wish I could open up this sub and not see so many posts about women. I want to learn more about strengthening my body and mind, making bank and raising my SMV. I could do without posts about women for at least a year ..
this is a sexual strategy subreddit, man
Yeah, I know. Maybe I'm venting on the wrong post. I'm sure I will find posts about women regardless. But there are so many anger phase-esque posts about women everyday. I just don't care about reading that anymore. I used to like those posts. But I'm over them now. Women can suck sometimes. AWALT. Society is stacked in their favor. I get it. I won't get married. Can we not move on now?
Also, get a vasectomy and put your future leaders of America on ice until YOU want a kid. Don't be forced into a lifetime of parenthood before you're ready because of some woman's agenda.
I get so tired of this advice. You may want your lineage to end but as a man, your primal nature is to lay and reproduce. I personally want to grow old and watch my grandkids play. While we age much better than women, we still age. Yes, you can get it reversed but it's not one hundred percent. Leave your testicles alone and wrap it up.
Cryo preservation 'n is what he meant. I got snipped and froze 12 future attempts. Best decision of my life. I decide when and if I want a kid(s).
^ yes. this is what I meant by saying "on ice". Thanks man.
Based on my experience for those that have been cheated on or will probably one day could be cheated on, never ever try to fix the relationship or bother with any attempt of trying to salvage or rekindle that relationship. The trust is gone so walk away. Simply walk away because any attempt shows that she has more power than you and she will be one dominating the relationship. You don't want that because she will just think of you as beta.. no.. even worst, a puppy who can't protect her.
From what I've read so far on this subreddit, when you walk away you hold the power and that power that you hold is most important for your self-esteem. Don't let her end the relationship, YOU by all means should end it because they say that those who end the relationship holds the power and make the other partner more hurt and more wanting of you.
As for those that are still hurt, try to become the better man. Her cheating was the reason why I was able to discover this subreddit last month and while I'm still a newb, I'm learning a lot of different perspective on life; the ugly truth and how life was never truly fair.
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you will never change her mind, so if you want to change her behaviours you must change the emotions she associate with them
(this is how i understood it im not sure)
by the way, this is THE way to train all animals; it works with men, women, dogs, horses, anything "trainable"
Women are driven by emotion, not rational thought.
If they are angry and saying no, then make them happy so they say yes.
So, acquire a sense of humor?
You lose money while chasing women, but you never lose women whole chasing capital. Stay focused.
Love my fucking dog, but she is a bit of a floozy too and loves most men
This as as good a summary as we will ever see in here. I would respectfully suggest an addendum for
16 Do not mate guard (unless you have opted for an exclusive LTR, in this case you should adopt passive and low level dread, and at least ensure she is not out drinking without you or maintaining male friendships)
I know a lot of people might think this is beta but the dynamics change in a serious LTR. You do not need to mate guard but you do need to set boundaries and implement dread, or she will leave/ cheat. Do not offer bread to the duck.
This is a great list, except for one, small thing.
I'm going to voice a respectful disagreement here. "Kino," as as a semi-formal system, is way too complicated, and way too easy to screw up. You don't need to do a lot of touching to seal the deal, and frankly, if poking or elbowing her at this or that time is what makes or breaks the deal, then you need more help than "kino" can give you.
Agreed. But the system is just to help noobs. The Abstract concept of touch early and often, subtlety, is useful.
2 is the secret to unlimited power
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Her true character for people who are a constant in her life. If she treats them all shitty, then eventually you will be treated that way too.
I really liked 20. About the monkey. It cn be said about jiu-jitsu. Don't let go of a grip until you have another one.
Someone cares to elaborate?
she treats them like shit? she is a shitty person
Keep your big money in a secret off-shore account.
This is a crazy ass list. I love it.
The only problem with that kind of thing is it's mostly useless to everybody but you. Those points are conclusions you drew from your experience. In order to really understand those conclusions one has to go through the experiences. So your post is useful to those who went through situations they used to draw similar conslusions, it's useful to yourself and it's useful to those who had some similar experiences to what made you draw these conclusions but who didn't succeed in drawing conclusions for themselves.
Mind elaborating on 16?
Also, 25 can kinda be an interesting one. I still have ex's that I dumped years ago that still try to talk to me, love me, etc, and want the chance to get with me again(fuck, date, take your pick), but at the same time turn around and will fuck any and everything. I chalk it up to, they just want another chance at the Alpha cock.
I feel like if there was a RedPill Bible these would be the chapters.
These are the kind of posts that need to be saved/bookmarked/printed. Points to be noted on the path to being a man. Keep growing.
I use an app called Pocket. Saves everything on your phone. Works offline too. I love it.
Yeah.. Saved a ton of articles there and the offline part was the best thing of it. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ideashower.readitlater.pro&hl=en) on Android
Actually, if you're a beginner, this list is too fucking much to absorb.
Principles and fundamentals aren't just for newbies. They're for everyone. It's damn hard to internalize everything at all times. You MUST go back to the basics continually.
Steph Curry hasn't stopped practicing free throws or ball handling drills.
I agree with a lot of these, but come on. There are some of these that are super negative and just come off resentful, which if you really think about it, is really beta behavior. I'm talking specifically numbers 18, 25, and maybe 22.
Sure it may be negative, but it is also realistic. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
i believe truth is neither positive or negative, its truth
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As with most rules governing complex human interactions, they were meant to be interpreted with discretion and human intuition, but I think it's useful to list the exceptions.
this post and the comment below are pure gold, so pure its sparkling light all over me and my retinas are burning with truth!
deserves sidebar imo
What does TRP have to say about ethnic men who's social value is actually lower?
Eg. I am Asian. Most white women do not like me. Poor matches on Tinder, even in "diverse" cities. Asians are considered to have the worst men. After right swiping thousands of times, most matches were other Asian women (60%), followed by black (15%), white (20%), and other (middle eastern / Indian, 5%)
A. You are doing better than I ever do on those sites.
B. Most women aren't on Tinder. You, like me, are going to have to get your ego bruised and make approaches in person.
Honestly, even getting rejected in person is more fun than Tinder.
Honestly, I wish I got more likes by Asian women. I find their company to generally be the most pleasant.
I'm of Indian ethnicity (though born and bred in the West) and have never had issues with attractive women of all races, over several decades of living. And I'm only 5'8".
Lift. Practice MMA. Focus on a high-paying career. Make lots of money. Have dedicated passions in life OTHER than women. Develop a sense of humor. Travel. Read everything. Become worldly, wise and ambitious. Then, believe me, women will just magically be there. All types. All races. More than you can handle.
I've never been on Tinder and never bothered with online dating. For Asian guys living in the West it's all about having wide social circles and in-person facetime with the opposite sex (after having honed your SMV).
Most of the women I've been with in person would have likely swiped me away on Tinder without a second thought.
yeah, my life is nothing like that. except the lifting bit. i went from being stick thin to about normal over the last 2 years.
The rest of the things you say are very far away from my life circumstances. I have been unemployed for a while and have fallen behind rent. The place where I live for past couple of years has been robbed twice and had windows smashed and I just had my car vandalised yesterday. I tried travelling a long time ago (to Europe), but I was very ugly and socially awkward and did not enjoy it very much. I can't do MMA (contact martial arts) for medical reasons, though I tried to go to a kungfu class last year, but found gas too expensive as I don't have a job. As I get older, I don't seem to be so much more worldly as twisted and bitter.
For me, I use Tinder because it's all I have, I have practically no social circles since leaving college. I mean, I talk to some people now and again online, but it's super rare that I go to any social event since college. Especially as I can't drink anymore. I get waaay depressed and it's not pretty to see.
I admit from what I said above that the least of my problems should be meeting with women, but it is still true that my matches are currently skewed heavily along racial lines. I am told I am not bad looking for an Asian, and this seems to be borne out from the Tinder data. But that's about it.
I agree. I am from the MENA..and my ex, white Dutch told me after she has seen my OKC profile that she would have never replied to my messages. If you're not an 8 or 9, with extremely good picture, don't bother with online...it's just a big source of frustration..
Lift and lose body fat. Don't powerlift. Get some mass then drop body fat. This is accurate.
Why not powerlift, I want to gain actual strength not what Elliot Hulse calls "puffy muscles"
Definitely do what you want. But women naturally respond better to leaner men. Brad Pitt fight club is the ideal body for pulling women. Overgrown and you look scary.
Very true, and also, women care much less about muscles than the confidence you get by lifting. Lift heavy or light, take martial arts, gymnastics, dance, yoga, run, cycle, whatever. Just DO something physical and you will reap rewards of confidence, health, stamina, grace, balance, energy, and focus. These are all sexy traits to women. And remember...if you lift heavy...don't forget your legs and ass!!!
Hits the nail hard. When I tell people that I look fine and I can perform any activity(like yoga, swimming, cycling,..) they tell me that I should have more muscles and look like those roid-using flashy magazine cover models on fitness mags.
Really appreciate your list, Max_fury!!
This is helpful, thanks. About to exercise rule 12.
I read this daily as I work through swallowing the pill. It has helped a ton with existing relationships so far, especially when the blue kicks in.
"It doesn't matter how long you've been with a woman, how many memories you have together, or how much effort you've put in...she will forget you in less than a week and move onto the next guy."
Do you know understand how human brains work....? As much as you seem to think that they are a difference species, females are still human
"They have their mobile phones near them at ALL times, and i mean ALL, no matter what they are doing (or what is being done to them). if they want to contact you immediately, they can and will. so if you message them and they do not text you back until a few days later, they are deliberately ignoring your ass."
Because they never have events that require them to turn them off or put them away...though a few days I agree with. But always? C'mon, that's just exaggeration
Number 26 is absolutely essential
Can I ask; why is it so important to look at how she treats her parents?
Because it shows how someone acts when they are comfortable and don't worry about having to impress you/ win you over anymore. Women will keep their shit together in the early stages. They will hide their crazy, be more cool and relaxed, more forgiving, etc. Then once they think they have you the real personality comes out.
A girl who who is rude and ungrateful toward her family will absolutely act the same way toward you sooner or later. If she gossips about how her sister or her mom is a bitch I guarantee she will gossip and shit talk about you too. If she is doesn't go out of her way or is flat unwilling to lend a helping hand to family, then she is also going to be the same toward you.
Wow - Thats ridiculous, so you think this girl was flat out bad for me?
Love it. Heavy dislike for the subpar comments trying to add to it. Seems like shitposting to me. Good job man I should print this and frame it.
29 is not necessary at all tbh
Reads like a copy-pasta from the RSD forum.
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I see from your posting history that you're a cock sucker. What interest would a bottom have in RP posts? Oh that's right! You want to get an idea of what the guys who are pumping and dumping you are thinking!
The butt hurt is literal with this one men.
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No thanks. You're an asshole.
Damn I missed what they said before deletion
Use unreddit. Just add un to the Reddit url for this thread.