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I'm not so sure. I think more and more guys are catching on, at least to the most basic ridiculousness of it all. The thing about Reddit is that all the most upvoted content bubbles to the top by default. So naturally in a lot of subs the most commonly accepted opinion will be most heard. It lends itself well to a hivemind depending on the topic of the sub. When you have a sub like TwoX that is such an immense circle jerk from the get go (fuckin subs name even), you have to be a little surprised that a comment firing shots like that is even hitting that many upvotes before it gets shot down by the censor squad.
yeah I am catching on tho I am far left so I was turned off by some red pillers supporting Trump, I think that's misguided but I also shouldn't blame all red pill ideas on that and throw the baby out with the bath water. Either way being brainwashed by politics is a beta thing to do.
Positives and negatives. Both our sub-reddits attempt to provide confidence for the target audience. Are feminists happier? Are they in better relationships? Are they less angry?
For me, here at TRP the issue of personal happiness, healthy relationships and aggression all changed from negatives to positives. I never knew how to view a situation or speak to someone correctly or when to properly apply dominance, I never had a relationship (let alone a healthy one) and I had a lot of pent up anger and I didn't know why.
I became the man I always watched and wanted to be. My affirmation comes in the form the study of my actions by others who want to live my life. When I show up in the morning and have a crowd of guys around my desk asking what/who/where about my previous evening and realize they want what I have.
It may be a circle jerk here at times, but I feel that's the point. TRP is an information dump. We could generally care less if you want to listen or not. The men who come here, come because they want to listen.
People do t change in 3 months, much less a futureless, no prospects having slut. Think about it. Ever knew a whore whose life is in a better place from 3 months ago? No.
I don't normally like these posts here, but this one is excellent. Lots going on here but the solipsism by Ms. Strong Independent and the commenters is too god.
"don't judge her based on her actions she might have a perfectly reasonable explanation for this you never know"
That is exactly how TRP views life. Judge by actions and their results, not by intent. Intent is theoretically great, but not the masculine way to approach thing. Too cerebral. Too feminine.
'Some were cruel, most were just regular posts, wondering about the background details like what made OP cheat, etc. It's all been removed. To protect us from the naughty thoughts and acts of the world, I guess.'
Pure gold.
Women with the typical hamster spin...
'It was three months ago and maybe she found a way to make things work. People make mistakes. She seems happy how.'
Oh yeah, but what about the part three months ago where fiance was cleaning the house and you were tied up getting fucked in the ass by Chad.
Women are so self centered even when they examine others situations, they only consider and examines the girls options and feelings. They treat men like we are privileged servants, that should just be happy we get their pussy and attention.
First time commenter on this sub long time lurker, finally decided to fully swallow the pill today. Started working out again, made a plan for my current LTR and how to become the alpha again with plates, I am going to change everything thanks to you guys.
I am a 25M who has been in two LTR back to back since 18, raised by a single mother who was a crazy cat lady, 3 times divorced man hater, who drilled being a beta into me. She literally chose for me not to have a father, let me explain.
No football, no hockey ,no basketball, only ballet and gymnastics till I was 15. Other sports are too dangerous and violent. The male coaches yell at you and are too mean. Her words.
No guns, no squirt guns, no violent video games, no movies with guns until I moved out at 18.
I come from a catholic extended family, but they all don't consider me family and I have only seen my aunt's, uncles and grandparents only 5 times in my life. Why you ask? My mom went batshit crazy after her third divorce when he left her for cheating on him with the neighbor, his best friend?!?! But according to her it was the neighbor's fault for seducing her and her husbands fault for leaving them alone.
Any who, 40 divorced and full of divorcee money, she decides to go to the doc to be artificially inseminated at random, so I can never know my father. So my older sister gets born, but it still wasn't enough according to my mom. According my mom, it was to quiet around the house. PLEASE BITCH you wanted a fucking male around.
So what did she do, she went back the doctor and had me. She hated all men at this point, including her brothers and her father now with all her money, she can tell them to fuck off and she can raise her son the right feminine way, without male distraction.
Oh boy was she fucking wrong. I can go on forever, but long story short by 12, the house she got in the divorce was turned into a full fledged cat foster center she ran for fun, 30 plus cats in one roof. Cat shit and piss everywhere, literally destroys the house. except when someone came over to adopt a cat, my mom wasn't home (working cuz ya know 2 kids) so 10 year old me and 12 year old sis were home, not being watched. This good Samaritan calls the police instead of adopting a cat and we go to CPS for a week until she figures it out.
Thing is, she could've flown us out to grandpas or her sisters but she was to proud and didn't want to be proven wrong that she is a complete failure of a parent and needed a fucking man with her to raise kids.
I sifted through a special kind of feminist hell in my youth, with my mom passing her romantics feelings of males onto me since she "stopped dating" for us kids (bitch ain't nobody want a 45 year old 3 times divorced cat lady with two kids. stop lying) Nothing weird or sexual, but she used me for emotional gratification and doesn't actually love me for me. I realize this after reading this sub.
Got prescribed Adderall at 16, shamed for porn when she reads 50 shades of grey. She said no guns ever but when I leave at 18 she immediately starts dating a ex Secret Service agent who is an avid hunter. My mom raised me that guns are horrible, all that lib fem bullshit, but I was so confused as to how she found this dude attractive.
TRP was the first place where when I was reading something, it all just clicked. I was like, ohhh I get why she liked Mr. Secret Service, women want the alpha, but raise the beta out of spite that the alpha left.
I'll stop my rant.
Btw Mr. Secret Service ran for the hills when she mentioned marriage. She was just a plate. She was shocked that he didn't want marry after meeting on match.com and dating for 4 months. Nobody explained the wall or anything to her(daddy issues to), but now she is mid 60s alone with 12 cats no friends and no family.
Thanks man. I have never felt the need to tell anyone about my youth until reading this sub. This sub at first to me was just a way to get laid and game women. It so much more than that. It has given me a positive outlook on my natural biological instincts instead of being ashamed about them.
This sub has brought me a great deal of mental health and I appreciate that we can have a guys only discussion without betas ,white knights and women sabotaging it.
Men's clubs need to come back. A place where men go talk to other men for advice, etc. They used to exist everywhere from what google tells me. TRP is the closest thing I have ever found and it took me 25 years.
Try Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It's the modern day real life fight club. If TRP is the haven for men's mind, a bjj dojo is the haven for men's body. Train both mind and body and transcend to the next level.
Get after those sports you want to play, go shoot at your local range, go to a boxing rink and spar, talk to people at the gym. Those are the men's clubs. I don't consider anyone my friend, but I have brothers who I met through getting out and doing shit. We keep each other out of trouble, give each other advice, and, when need be, help bury the occasional dead hooker.
16 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Christ, I'm never complaining about anything ever again. LOL.
at least she found some 6 foot athletes donated sperm to give you some decent genes. my mom married an idgaf alpha who was basically a complete leech and loser. the red pill was a lot harder for me to swallow having had a red pill father who was a loser in every single way besides the fact that he somehow convinced this woman to house and feed him, despite him having nothing beyond frame and game. it kinda sucks that women value game more than objective reality. i'd have taken a beta father any day over a red pil hobo who beat me.
Not sure about that. We always talk about genes and ressources but parental behaviour is important. My dad is the epitome of the IDGF Alpha as well, he had a motorbike and was a punk when he met my mom. He is barely above her in terms of money but he is stupid, unintelligent, unpredictible, dangerous, impulsive, not handsome but have a ferocious look and is incredibly selfish. He punched me in the face me once, at christmas.
I asked her why she chose him instead of a conscientious beta bucks and she said she preferred the life that he injected into the home instead of a dull boring beta. That's a woman speaking here. You can argue about SMV and obsess over ressources all day but no one wants to live with a boring person. What's more : women work now, all it takes is to be dominant and I would say interesting and entertaining, tingle generators.
I thank her for her choice. Sure it was hard for me to develop discipline at school but I absolutely love the natural Alphaness that my father has given me. IDGAF and action are natural to me. Compare that with people raised by Betas, they are little slaves with no personality, crabs in the bucket basically. You surely do not have to learn to be Alpha, just peel off the shit you have been fed. It is great to be the son of an Alpha. Frame and Game should flow with relative ease for you.
i would be perfectly fine living with a boring person. i can breathe life into people and have a good time all by myself, i'll rub off on her and get her giggling at some point. all i need from her is the basics, you know, the shit that feminism made sure became a rare commodity instead of "the basics".
you're right though. i do have a natural alpha demeanor to me, but I don't attribute that to my father at all, and it seriously hits me deep knowing how many parallels there are between us. can i just write it off to ignorance on his part that he lived an empty life as a dipshit?
anyway in my case, i would have liked it if she picked someone taller cuz fuck being short. i know frame and game is more important but it sucks balls to not be as athletic because of my body type, on top of having to be extra just for baseline attraction. i get salty seeing 6 foot chodes and how easy they have it despite being nothing.
that idgaf comes naturally to me to but i realized i hurt people when i go that route. i don't want to be scum like my father and honestly that's probably the main reason i was beta as fuck for most of my childhood. my idiot mother made her choice, that's on her, but i want to be the kind of man who brings warmth into peoples lives, not a rabid dog like him.
my cousin is a curious example. his dad is red pill also and probably worse than my father in terms of personality. like they both have their good qualities but they're seriously overshadowed by all the bad shit. anyway my cousin is full on beta. i'm the kind of person that's like you will never break me, he i guess was broken down. i don't believe he's fully on indoctrinated he's too intelligent to be, i think maybe he's more about keeping the peace since trp puts some serious turbulence in society. he's the mgtow i could never be though, he doesn't give a fuck about finding a woman(he certainly has me beat in terms of genetics), i guess a little idgaf is a good thing, it doesn't do you any favors letting a bunch of shitty people affect you, family or not, they'd have me be the same slave they are.
i have trouble tapping into my alpha in a way that gets results i want tbh. i wanna be that guy everyone can be open and feel warm around but i have this like, inner demon that i can't let go. i've seen too much shit to just be a fun guy all the time, and it annoys the shit out of me how many people life to them is all about fun and parties, can't take shit seriously if their life depended on it.
No football, no hockey ,no basketball, only ballet and gymnastics till I was 15. Other sports are too dangerous and violent. The male coaches yell at you and are too mean. Her words.
Dude, ballet and gymnastics are far more demanding than most of the other sports on your list. The level of discipline and drive needed to succeed is incredible. They may have a 'girly' reputation, but there is nothing weak about them.
Try going into your 4th grade elementary school in full tights, make up and ballet shoes with your mom and sister also in costume to hand out fliers to the dance recital we are hosting at the high school that weekend. I remember male teachers and dads openly laughing at me when I was not looking or I just got the look of, "That kid is fuuuuucked" We went to every class and every grade. I got made fun of for yeeeeears. I grew up in rich white conservative Minnesota suburb. I still to this day remember that being the official day I realized something was wrong I fucking hated my mother.
going into your 4th grade elementary school in full tights, make up and ballet shoes with your mom and sister also in costume to hand out fliers
Aaaaaaaand that's fucked up. It's one thing to wear the gear when practicing and performing, but making you wear it outside of that is an attempt to deliberately ostracize you from your peers. That is abuse on a level way beyond getting yelled at by a mean coach.
If I had any advice for you, it's don't let the hate for your mother poison the man you are. Holding onto hate for too long can be self-destructive. That is letting her win.
Change the hate to apathy or contempt. Be the best man you can be in spite of her efforts.
24 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
shit like this is why I worry when a 4 year old boy thinks he's a girl and the parents run with it, consider him transgender and basically reshape his world as a girl.
There is no room anymore for any degree of confusion. A 4 year old child is supposed to make their mind up very clearly about what their place is in the world.
My cousin tried this when he was young, his sisters would dress him up as a girl and say he was a pretty little girl. He went to my father and said he was a girl. My father said no you're not, put an end to the dressup and he went on to a normal life, 20+ years married, couple of kids, no dysfunction at all.
Today, if this child were to do this and an adult said no, you're a boy/girl based on your genetics, this would raise a holy shitstorm. For me, I'm not prepared to say transgenderism does not exist. I'm not a scientist. Even if it doesn't exist I don't give a flying fuck because I believe in freedom. If you're a man and want to transform your body into an approximation of a woman: go for it. You can be a unicorn and I will applaud your choice and your freedom to execute it and fuck everyone who says you can't do with your own body what you don't want to do.
But this shit, telling a 4 year old who is confused, that they're the opposite to what their body is, is just digging a fucking hole for the poor kid. Let those decisions be made by adults, not by children.
If you want to listen to a 4 year old or a 5 year old, they're going to want to eat ice cream all day and watch cartoons and crap in their pants. It's supposed to be the role of adults to straighten out childhood bullshit.
50 years down the road we're going to have some better perspective but I would really love to see a study, a good one, about the parents and family of transgender youths and how much of an influence is there.
6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
It was like she was trying to raise you to be gay.
Holy shit. Its a miracle you turned out ok. Thank god for TRP.
2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
The good news and what you need to know: literally no one but you remember that happened.
Nothing to be ashamed of.
3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
I did three years of ballet, I want to say 3rd, 4th, and 5th grades. Dudes at that age are super obsessed about being seen as masculine dudes so you have to be pretty confident to do something like ballet and you did develop strength in character.
I never wore the clothing outside of practice though. I remember my mother got me these tights that were clearly for girls since you could see my junk and I refused to wear them. I usually just wore leggings (which despite being a chick clothing are incredibly comfortable) and then only for the practice. Even a lot of the older dudes just wore athletic shorts.
God speed man. I hope you become the man you want to be, you have plenty of time ahead, take it easy, be brave and don't give up !
I won't give you any advise, as i don't consider muself alpha - but what i can tell RP makes you happy because you start doing shit for yourself and in spite of everyone wanting you to fall into the obedient spinless blob.
2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
This place is here for guys like you. Good luck brother.
I am glad that you are doing OK. You might want to get a DNA test to see your genetic background. It will give you a link to the past.
Your mother is a cruel person, and you will be wise to keep her at distance as you do.
About the Secret Service guy, a lot of women worship government officials, armed or not, because they have power. She did not want you to have anything associated with power because she feared that if you were manly it would upset the apple cart.
Yours is on the extreme side, but similar to a lot of guys here (including myself). I'd say a significant amount of the men here on TRP were raised by single mothers or pushover fathers.
I've sadly gotten to the point where I can only laugh when people ask why a single mother can't properly raise a boy. It's because she doesn't know how the male mind or body works.
What does a heterosexual woman know about flirting or seducing women? If she did, how does she teach that to her son?
What does a women know about the intense flood of testosterone coursing through our bodies at teenagers?
What does a woman know about masculinity and the responsibility that comes with it?
Dude what your mom did to you is called covert incest, look it up. Sounds like you're already found the righteous path, so best of luck continuing your journey.
2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Found it in my 30's, it explained pretty much all of my life's experiences accurately so it just clicked. You are not alone.
Dude, you were literally in some deep shit. But the positive side of this is that you'll be able to sniff a feminist bitch miles away before she shows off her tentacles like Davy Jones. Get your life back and I now figure out why I avoid girls who say they love cats very much.
i'm sure women were just as trashy before the internet was invented, their shit is just exposed out in the open now so it's easier for guys like us to accept the truth and not get baited.
12 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
You would have cheating, but remember that women take the shape of the container. It was not acceptable, either socially, legally, or within a personal relationship, for women to be total sluts like they are encouraged to be now. The type of 'finding herself sexually' experimenting, disloyalty to her marriage oaths, and belittling of the men who cared for her, would have been unthinkable. She would be seen as a trashy woman who needed to be put back in her place, rather than lionised as a 'strong, independent, womyn'.
So AWALT was still there, the propensity to act in that way was still present, but it could not readily become actual behaviour.
Social norms sound sexy when you put it that way. Some trashy hoe says and does dumb shit, people proceed to gasp and ostracized her. Sign me up who do I have to shoot?
how on earth did we fall so far? they'll do whatever and be whatever we want them to be, and we chose this, like holy fuck. i guess there were some guys who wanted to be nice to their wives and be considerate towards them and it all went downhill from there. they get 1 yes dear out of you and it's gotcha bitch.
7 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Civilization collapse in the making, and it has happened fairly rapidly, I agree. But the seeds were all there ready and waiting.
1) Men are biased in favour of women. Without White Knights then feminists could do nothing.
2) Penis envy. Women are extremely jealous of the achievements of men, always have been, always will be.
3) Industrialization, and the concommittent increase in 'safe, non-physical' jobs like office work, which meant that women could go out and do work outside the home, which previously they would never have wanted to do because it was so hard. In a woman's mind, this translates into, 'he works outside the home, I work outside the home, therefore a woman can do anything a man can do. Therefore we are equal in every way, and women should have equal say in how society is run'.
2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
I don't think so, back in the day infidelity was frowned upon and women were kept in line. They also married earlier and had children
it's called playing the game. there's a lot of virgin good girls that thanks to the sexual revolution giving them permission to find herself with all the chad cock in every orifice.
1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Eh. Do you think those burka bitches are out riding the CC?
Women are as big of whores as we (men) allow them to be.
They want to slut out, but if society won't have it they only do it under the most clandestine circumstances.
It is more degenerate. As a whole, society is far far more narcissistic than it used to be. In general, the older I get the more and more I hate young people because they are all living in a damn dream world. Yes let's post our entire lives online for everyone to see. Had a drink at a bar? Gotta post a selfie. Eating food? Selfie. Someone said something you didn't like? Post an "888 Didn't Read Shit" 10000 word diatribe online about what happened and how that person is the worst person ever.
Having any sort of morals anymore and sticking to those morals is no longer the norm. Everyone advocates for narcissism, what a world we live in.
I'm 31, and a few years ago it really hit me that very few people my age have any sense of honor (I know it sounds corny, but it's true). Men are becoming almost as flaky and unreliable as women. People just don't care about having character anymore. I blame it on the education system's obsession with "self-esteem" and cultural marxism. Young men are basically being told that they shouldn't worry about acting like women because gender is just a social construct.
1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Morals are useful for society and male relationships but you shouldn't have morals when it comes to women. They don't deserve morals or compassion.
I actually saw this fiasco unfold. Wish I knew how to take screenshots. Its even better than OP describes it.
The girl in question was cheating on her husband because he was a beta. She cheated on him with a Dom that treated her like filth and degraded and dominated her. The end of her post about cheating was like, "I miss my dom so much! I wasn't able to fully please him and its tearing me up inside!"
Then she goes on TwoX and gives a pat on the head to her cucked husband for white knighting in front of his grand parents.
The funniest part is if the kid had taken his grand fathers advice and manned the fuck up and treated her like the lost helpless child she is, he wouldn't be a pathetic cuck.
Once the curtain was pulled back and the full RP truths were on full display the mods were like "SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT! IT! DOWN!" like a bunch of agent Smithettes attacking a glitch in the femimatrix.
Moral of the story? Always listen to your grand pappy. He knows the fucking score.
Good summary. Why does 2X censor like that? Amazing that the girl would make such conflicted posts on reddit. Goes to show what we hear around here about some women not being conscious/self aware of their behavior and only acting at the instinctual level.
For future reference, if you are on windows and want to screenshot, look for the "snipping tool". It's a handy little device. You can also just press the "PrtSc" button and then go into paint, "Ctrl+V" and save the resultant image.
61 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Because that sub Reddit is a fucking echo chamber for whores, feminists and so on
Because 2X is a recognized main sub that is designed for women worshipping themselves. Can't break the circlejerk
6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
they degrade the word troll even further, as if newfags that barely learn netspeak didn't do enough by turning it into an umbrella term for any person annoying you
Because feminists know that if you subject feminism to any scrutiny, it collapses like the house of cards that it is. Feminism can only exist in an echo chamber.
If it's a cheating woman, it must be rationalized and swept under the rug because cheating is bad. Also, she was probably raped when she "cheated". <we're so sorry this happened to you!>
If it's a cheating man, he's a horrible person forever and we need trigger warnings on the story. <we're so sorry this happened to you!>
Personally, I view either cheater the same. If you sign up for an exclusive relationship and don't abide by that, you're not living up to your word and I lose respect for you.
1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Women never honor their word though. So the bbest deal for a man is not to get into a relationship.
Generalizations are often useful, but very few statements like this one are accurate.
The statement that women will never honor their word crosses into the realm of irrational sexism. Women do honor their words, but just like men, there are circumstances where they will choose not to do so.
If you're a 3 in a monogamous LTR with a 3 and a hb10 offers herself you, there's a strong chance you're going to not honor your word to your 3 in that circumstance.
The best deal for a man might be to not get into a relationship, yes, but I think that's something to be determined on an individual basis.
0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Very few women honor their words. They don't feel that sense of morality or loyalty. Men can be hypergamous too yes, but men can also love. Women cant.
The philosophy of censorship is identical to this sub: it is not a democracy. Granted, this place is chill and if a man is called out for being a hypocrite, those critics will not be silenced, but in the end, we have no power above the mods of this sub, either.
Lightshot for Chrome or Firefox is the go-to for screenshots.
2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
If you're using windows you can easily take a screenshot using the "snipping tool" easiest way to do it and it allows you to copy only the part you want to take a screen shot of.
The grandpa doesn't criticize the guy for doing housework, he doesn't care. The grandpa is defending himself against the grandma, who is criticizing the guy for doing housework.
Always listen to your grandpappy. He knows the score.
Thats whats up. Ill be quotingg you sir.
86 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
I am so grateful for my man!!
Huge red flag here. Margaret Thatcher said "if you have to tell people you're a lady, you're not". Similarly if she needs to so warrantlessly and openly remind herself that she's grateful for her man, she isn't. Women who are truly grateful for their partners show it via their actions not by adding a sentence to the end of a post on reddit.
She said it for the sake of her own image; as a way to elevate her status among TwoX readers by asserting that she has an amazing partner with the implication being that most of the readers on TwoX don't.
Isn't emasculated by the fact that I make more money than he does
Maybe he doesn't mind but she sure as shit does or else she wouldn't have felt it necessary to include this useless piece of information in her post. This is a humblebrag. She included it to show TwoX that she earns an above average income, while also showing how progressive and accepting she is of those less able or competent than herself. Textbook passive aggressive.
I was internally bursting at the seems and giving my fiance's hand the death grip under the table
No surprise here as to why she sought a D/S relationship. Textbook submissive behavior. Instead of acting herself, she urged her man to act on her behalf regardless of how strongly she felt about the situation. She's a coward.
I'm going to read between the lines a bit here and guess she's older than her fiance by more than a couple of years. He's a classic beta whom she settled for after riding the CC. He's still at college/university and working part time while she's full-time and she wears the pants in the relationship, which she resents. He thinks their relationship is fine, maybe even good. The poor sod has no clue what he's about to marry.
I'm betting that she fabricated her fiance's entire side of the exchange. They went to dinner, her fiance's grandfather made a comment that triggered her. She gripped her fiance's hand and he placated her death grip by changing the topic of conversation or playing the remark off as a joke. She was furious and her hamster started spinning. She spent the rest of the night thinking about the perfect comeback to what what was said and after the silent car ride home where she repeatedly told her fiance she was "fine" she hopped on reddit to share her story with TwoX so she could salvage some validation out of an otherwise shitty night.
One of my tinder matches actually started cooking for me because one of my pics made me look "malnutritioned." Her words. I told her since she's so worried about me to come me healthy food herself and she actually did.
Because the blue pill fantasy is appealing. Red pill truths are painful and alienating.
The reality is many/most women will abandon you when you need them the most (when you get sick, injured, laid off, are having financial or emotional problems, etc). Women have a sexual strategy that is totally selfish just like men do. Women care about money and status far more than they act like they do. Many women like being degraded and dominated sexually instead of treated as equals. Many women will destroy a perfectly good nuclear family because of the tingles. Women are very hypergamous and view most men as not good enough. etc.
Those truths are hard to accept. It is easier to just believe the delusion that women only care about love, and that all you have to do is be a loving, respectful feminist and women will love and respect you back and she will never cheat or lose interest.
It is the same reason people believe in religion so strongly. The alternative is too scary to contemplate.
I so don't want to believe this, but I keep seeing more and more evidence that it's true. I don't understand why basically no women are honest about this.
if you're new, really everything men and women do is viewed in the light of what we did for 500k years, lived as hunter gatherers.
And for 2 billion years, women wanted the best DNA that would guarantee survival. As we were fucking amoebas, to rats, to monkeys, ect. it was get the big bad alpha. Every. Time. The biggest strongest DNA. And people will tell you that now women are different? Because we've been "civilized" for like .00000000001% of that time? Now it's just shut off and women want nice guys?
While that is true, when mammals developed mating strategies that require long term investment in dependent young, animals started looking for resources, security and protection too. So women also want that. They want the high quality DNA but they also want resources, security and protection. However the state can provide most of those now, leaving women to fuck a string of good looking bad boys and rely on child support and welfare to pay the bills. Women don't even really need beta bux anymore, the state has that role.
1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago
Yep. All women are married to the government already.
because it puts them in a good light, their reputation is very important to them (in the tribe, it was EVERYTHING to them. A woman with bad standing in the tribe could be kicked out and that's it, she's done for)
Yes. Hopefully it turns into a trp fairytale and he leaves her when she hits her wall, becomes red pill and fucks chicks 20 years younger than him while she is alone and miserable. A man can dream
i have a girl who has stayed with me during multiple times of unemployment that were not trivial. as far as i can tell she has not cheated. i check phones and shit, been burned in the past so i am on the paranoid side of things when it comes to that.
i wonder if something about it is too good to be true. can't figure it out. she still cooks every night and cleans. we've been together for 2 years so i'm waiting for the awalt shoe to drop and i'm prepared for it. i'll walk no questions asked and she knows it.
Think of it this way: just because "many" people have had their lives transformed by winning the lottery, doesn't mean you should hedge your bets and a significant chunk of your money in order to win the lottery, unlike many others I've seen. Any intelligent person would understand that the probability is astronomically small.
This is also why guys major in computer science or something practical and make good money. Sure, you can major in something useless and be successful. There's "plenty" of people with useless degrees or no degrees that are rich as fuck. But many guys don't want to risk it, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you are extremely confident and fearless . The odds are usually not in your favor.
TRP is just a model of the world and should not be taken as an absolute that answers all questions and explains all situations. NAWALT is just a probability-driven statement that implies more times than not that you will be hurt rather than helped by women. Nothing is guaranteed in life and your unicorn could disappear the next day for reasons you cannot understand even though you think it's improbable. It's all about risk analysis and personal choice in the end. What do you want in life and what risks are you willing to take to achieve it? TRP is just a tool, like the many tools in your life, to help you to achieve your wants and desires.
Yup, thats why I said many/most. Many/most men will find a woman less attractive as she gets older and fatter. Many/most women will find a guy less attractive if he loses his ability to provide security, resources and protection.
However lots of guys stick with old and fat wives, and lots of women stick with men who can't provide for or protect them.
The real problem becomes when s/he starts to realize they have better options out there. That or she really is just a decent person who can suppress her internal urges. Hopefully the latter. I'm not a subscriber to the AWALT theory. Lots of men do things that are not in their genetic interest (raise someone else's kids, stick with ugly, fat, old women, etc). Women are no different. But I think on some level men are bred by genetics and society to be more selfless than women since our genetic strategy is based on selflessness (living for women and children's benefit). So maybe that isn't a great comparison.
that's a good point about suppressing internal urges. when i was looking, i specifically was looking for a girl who would go against her girlfriends consensus. i'm short, her friends were talking shit and she still did what she felt. i've seen her stop herself from buying into her own bullshit before, too, and be more logical than any other girl i've met.
maybe i just pre-screened really well.
still watching my back tho. feel like you can never do that too much as long as doing so doesn't rule you.
Sounds like you found a good one. Train her, reward the good, punish the bad, and maybe you can build something we all wish we could have. But first you have to be a badass every day. Never forget that
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i'll walk no questions asked and she knows it.
Dread can be very effective, but don't think you can just ease up and relax now. Lots of guys make that mistake when they get married, and so they get cheated on because he has removed the possibility of dread, and has stopped giving tingles. You always have to game her.
Also, obviously, don't sign any binding contracts with her, like marriage, shared ownership of a house, etc. Do that, and you will find her behaviour much more likely to change. You know the rule, right? For the first year of marriage, put a penny in a jar everytime you have sex. After the first year, take a penny out every time you have sex. The jar will never get empty.
So enjoy, but don't think it is 'forever', take it while it lasts.
over 2 years and no talk of marriage on either end. she doesn't seem interested, i'm definitely not. lease is in my name only. in over 2 years she's turned me down for sex under 1 handful of times- i count.
sound too good to be true right? maybe i'm better at this than i thought..
You could be a fuckin' bum for 2 years. If she thinks that your SMV is significantly higher than yours, she will stay. Their valuation is always different, some prefer money, some looks, some personality etc...
We're all just advanced chimpanzees. Just because we can build rockets and smartphones doesn't mean we aren't absolute savages in our core. Everyone around you is an animal that is ultimately chained to the impulses of their biology. Everything that negates or mitigates that is the result of social conditioning. It's a freeing truth, and it can also be somewhat uncomfortable to ponder.
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This. If there is one thing I wish more people could understand its this.
We are the third chimpanzee. You got the bonobos that are a matriarchy, the troglodytes that are a patriarchy, and us.
I have seen good articles on the theory that humans are an advanced species only because women evolved concealed ovulation. Literally the reason we have civilization is because evolution made women deceitful.
I've never heard that theory, what is it called and do you have any papers on it?
It was my understanding that our brains grew 300% in the last 1.5 million years due to climate changes. But I'd be interested to learn how concealed ovulation also caused a brain explosion.
Hell my own mother reacts to TRP actions. Sees I am turning into (more than) my father and she hates it. She was supposed to raise a BP cuck but instead raised me to see the truths in what my Dad has done. Hell even the bloke she ended up marrying I threw out the house once and even arrested him. Her mind imploded when that happened. Her little boy managed to fuck up her night in shining blue armour.
They're on that testosterone patch. When I'm 70 I'll just hire whores twice a month and spend the rest riding my harley, fishing, chess, books, tai chi, brewing my own beer, and chopping wood
The favorite line of older women is she is just fucking him for his money what that translates into is I wish he was into fucking old worn old things so I could get some of the money
To give you an honest answer, I've got a buddy around 60-70 and he says he'll get a blowjob every once in a blue moon from a nice old girl 50ish or so.
He won't go out with any girls 50 or above., takes getting old and desperate to fuck at that age.
That Kinda blows.. damn if women weren't so screwed up nowadays I wouldn't be contemplating soloing it out till that age. Maybe I should focus on finding a LTR and having kids when I hit the 40s
I work doors. I met a guy last weekend who is 70+ and is doing women ~40. By 20 year old standards 40 is old as fuck. But when 40 is 30+ years younger than you you can bet your bottom dollar that mother fucker is redder than red.
when your 70 your balls are filled with dust and there' no testosterone to enslave you into needing pussy so you dont' care about it anymore
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I would think you just take a sex tourism trip every so often. Go to Brazil or Thailand or Czech Republic, smash a years worth, and repeat in a year or so.
Or just retire to Thailand or Brazil and get a 25 year old wife.
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I think most men truely know the risks. The desire to have kids and family can be strong enough to ignore all the red flags.
Many men love their kids enough to at least try to put up with a shrew for 18 years
Aka "Integrity Amnesia." Doesn't matter what they promised before, this is now, and it feels different, so it is different, and all previous contracts are null and void.
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The sad part is that she most likely told him about her interest in BDSM. Some people just don't appreciate the power dynamics and the lengths people will go to in order to fulfill their kink.
That poor, poor man. He will eventually figure out how badly he has been conned by his fiance and by society at large which encouraged him to act like this. When he does it will take years to recover. I'm sure he will end up posting here in 5+ years.
No he won't, he will be raising that little half black cuck as if it is his own. That is what a real man does.
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Lessons learned: Never trust a bitch. Never get married. Never commit. Always dominate your women. Do not give them vanilla sex, give them hardcore pound fucking. Be sexist misogynist etc sjw words and make her do all the gender roled stuff she's supposed to do as a woman. Keep house work for the bitches.
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Yes. Women need to be led. Their emotions rapidly change on a daily basis. They act based off said emotions. As a man, having the ability to say no, and sticking to it, is a trait women love in men.
It was nothing. Something like "That's what you got from this? You guys are are absurd" He actually engaged quite civilly and constructively after that. He was a long way from ready for the Red Pill though.
It was entirely predictable using TRP knowledge. It's called Beta Bucks, Alpha Fucks. And it's not shitty, if you recognize that women follow a biological imperative. Fish swim. Birds fly. Women look for alpha genes and beta providers.
What we are taking from the story is that it fits the TRP model perfectly. It's one more example that TRP knowledge has shown itself true in the real world. She has her beta, but is unfulfilled. She fucks an Alpha behind his back, then a few months later pretends it never happened.
All this exactly predicted by the phrase AWALT, which stands for All Women Are Like That. Sure, there are outliers. Lesbians, feminists, the mentally handicapped, the clinically insane, etc that do not fit the model, but they are outliers.
This womans behavior is exactly predicted by TRP, and the solution is also elucidated.
I would LOVE to see some statistics on the number of people that are banned from individual subs... and see just how strongly that number correlates with the SJW-iness of the sub.
I like to try broknighting, but there's like a 50/50 chance the dumb beta schmuck will hamster it away and then use anything you said against you in the hopes of making some girl like him.
Which is why you have to know your audience. You can't save everyone, but you can know who to save. In a way knowing who to broknight is a good way to practice judging character.
More like 80/20. Then again when done right its gold. Had a friend of a friend, we will call him the beta, in college that was white knight to the max. We kept him around because we enjoyed fucking with him on a couple of occasions. At one point we are over at the apartment of the girl the beta was orbiting. He was liberally talking shit to about my friend while my friend was out of the room. So eventually the girl is going upstairs to bang my friend. At that point the beta literally body blocks the stairs and grabs both handrails so she can't get by. I'm on the couch with the LTR of the time, and we are looking at each other with a 'get the popcorn, this is going to be good face.' Eventually she tells him to leave or she's going to call the cops. So after a good ten minutes he backs off and storms out.
In a couple of days, he was right back in orbit.
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You cannot afford to do it with work colleagues, unless you know them really well outside of work, and even then it is risky unless they have shown some awareness by themselves. Sad, but never underestimate feminist-dominated HR depts to fuck you over.
I honestly find that more satisfying than scoring a new girl.
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I do too. Unplugging men is awesome. Very risky tho. I find friendships with men more satisfying than all the sex I've had. This sjw tumblr bitch I used to fuck told me I'm homoromantic because I enjoy spending time with bros, and only spend time with girls when I'm horny.
i dont care. i am altruistic. i refuse to let the weaker conniving ungrateful gender take advantage of the honorable gender who's been lied to and is holding their word...can't do it.
No woman wants a man who waits on them hand and foot everyday. That shit is boring. It's not that this guy does the house work. He's probably just soft all around. He probably does all of this stuff to compensate for lacking elsewhere, whether that be the bedroom, personality, or whatever else.
TwoX is one of those weird subreddits where it's built to support and empower women (in theory) but all it ever does is reinforce the worst possible behaviors.
I had a limited disagreement with some dunce over there about why she didnt feel it was important to report a rapist (again, likely not a rapist, just post-sex guilt). She had no coherent response and I left her with "then it's okay for other women to be raped by him? You're letting a rapist walk free to rape women and you're fine with that, and the women here are fine with that as well?"
Nothing but a toxic subreddit. It wouldnt surprise me if some time in the future it was revealed that their mods were 4chan dudes trolling the ever living fuck out of a dozen or so stupid facebooking, stay-at-home moms.
Reading that it's actually subtle. Doing housework is just that. You're not living in a pig sty. It's more that he seems to be submissive and "supports" her career. And she earns more money than him.
He should have been slapping his dick off her face every day and saying No a lot. And also sorting out his own shit in life.
So she made a post showcasing her simp fiancée and got caught fucking around and people actually did the right thing? Great job, Reddit. There may still be hope for you.
If it's true men are biologically wired to fuck as many women as possible then the equal wiring for women tells them to always look for a better option. They are constantly on the lookout for a better man, it is in their "wiring".
Is it just me or is twox full of hate? I was browsing reddit without logging in and forgot it was a default sub and it reminded why I made an account to just remove that sub.
Always listen to your grand pappy. He knows the fucking score.
Yep. Things like feminism and all that horseshit has always been around. It isn't new and it isn't surprising. So listen to the guys who have been there and done that.
We all know the pay gap theories are utter crap. I would counter that and say, the pay gap is very real. But not in favor of men!
After my most recent round of raises I awarded at work, yes women actually got the higher raises and bonuses. And no, as their manager I can personally attest that this was not due to merit rather the fact they have a vagina and "Durrr women in tech, herp di derp!"
This particular woman earns more than her husband so the husband is at home wearing the pinny setting dinner out for her. So that relationship dynamic is fucked. Ten bucks says that the sex was vanilla because she isn't attracted to him enough to let him rough sex her like she seems to want.
The grandparents know the dynamic is wrong. The man is the subservient simply by virtue of his paycheck. So why isn't she entitled to go get some strange because she's the head of the house, she runs the ship, fuck what the dinner boy thinks!
What a rather typical story... but I wish to throw my two pence on a wrong message which is being risked to be sent out there.
It's not that there anything wrong or bad with knowing how to do housework & actually doing it per se but what is being conveyed but doing or helping out with housework.
In this case what I can guess his grandparents made fun of him because he came across as trained mule on a leash to relieve her excessively at her leisure rather than to handle things up his own as an independently capable individual where she's left less leverage if any to walk out on him. Experienced people are usually capable to size up such situations at a glance.
Of course on the other hand she doesn't have such knowledge one way or another with her Dom guy because in her relationship with him she is unable to attain it thus playing completely to the Doms advantage.
In summary, more skills the better if conveyed well through their application.
How can she not realize this hypocrisy herself, it is so obvious? One day shes posting saying how unforfilled she is and the enxt day saying how great he is. how can she do that?
It's fake. Her fiance never said that shit. Do you really think he suddenly, for no reason, bring up the "i make less money" thing ? That's what she invented in her mind.
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You do realise half the shit people post on this site is fake? Go through anyones post history and in each sub they're acting like a completely different person just to get that sweet karma.
Lmao the mods removed all the comments calling her out
i love how they rationalized it too
"it was three months ago it could have been a different person"
"she could totally have changed her mind in three months and become happy in her relationship"
"don't judge her based on her actions she might have a perfectly reasonable explanation for this you never know"
what people don't realize is:
she didn't GO TO HIM and ask him to be dominant. she found someone else. YOU have to see the warning signs, YOU have to know what the fuck is up.
she ain't going to come to you and ask you to change she will just find someone else.
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Of course not. She doesn't want to LEAD HIM to becoming more dominant. She wants to be led.
That's a brainwashed cult members style of rationalising a pile of shit.
Honestly it sounds just like practically all of Reddit.
I'm not so sure. I think more and more guys are catching on, at least to the most basic ridiculousness of it all. The thing about Reddit is that all the most upvoted content bubbles to the top by default. So naturally in a lot of subs the most commonly accepted opinion will be most heard. It lends itself well to a hivemind depending on the topic of the sub. When you have a sub like TwoX that is such an immense circle jerk from the get go (fuckin subs name even), you have to be a little surprised that a comment firing shots like that is even hitting that many upvotes before it gets shot down by the censor squad.
It's true more men are waking up, just look up this subreddits subscriber increase in the past two years.
yeah I am catching on tho I am far left so I was turned off by some red pillers supporting Trump, I think that's misguided but I also shouldn't blame all red pill ideas on that and throw the baby out with the bath water. Either way being brainwashed by politics is a beta thing to do.
Reddit is full of mentally ill liberals so is anyone really surprised?
its the front page of the internet (see PC garbage)
TRP is the main reason i even come here anymore, as much as I love the idea of reddit, upvoting, just too much PC garbage bc people are not REAL
TrollX bans anyone who doesn't support the narrative of empowering sluts. They just want to be whores and not be insulted for it.
No no, but we're the brainwashed cult over here at TRP, remember? /s
The same thing happens here too.
Positives and negatives. Both our sub-reddits attempt to provide confidence for the target audience. Are feminists happier? Are they in better relationships? Are they less angry?
For me, here at TRP the issue of personal happiness, healthy relationships and aggression all changed from negatives to positives. I never knew how to view a situation or speak to someone correctly or when to properly apply dominance, I never had a relationship (let alone a healthy one) and I had a lot of pent up anger and I didn't know why.
I became the man I always watched and wanted to be. My affirmation comes in the form the study of my actions by others who want to live my life. When I show up in the morning and have a crowd of guys around my desk asking what/who/where about my previous evening and realize they want what I have.
It may be a circle jerk here at times, but I feel that's the point. TRP is an information dump. We could generally care less if you want to listen or not. The men who come here, come because they want to listen.
I was under the impression that posts/comments don't get deleted nearly as often here, but you're more likely to get called out on being shit.
Isn't that the way it should be?
yes but at least our brainwash works
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Always scrambling to clean up the crime.
CSI. CUNT SCENE INVENSTIGATION.
Unless they're competing. Then it becomes a blood bath
"it was three months ago" say that to inmates who are in prison until they die
That's not even enough time for her to get the semen flavor out of her mouth
People do t change in 3 months, much less a futureless, no prospects having slut. Think about it. Ever knew a whore whose life is in a better place from 3 months ago? No.
Cheating piece of shit who is going to cheat on this guy again
"she's a woman, so there must be an excuse dismissing her whorish behavior!"
Literal anti-truth. "Don't believe what she does, believe the story she invents after the fact to excuse what she does."
Shit. I'm going to go kill a small town, and see if my "you see what had happened was..." story sways the jury.
Haha.
I don't normally like these posts here, but this one is excellent. Lots going on here but the solipsism by Ms. Strong Independent and the commenters is too god.
So she met and got engaged in less than three months? That's even worse!
A different "person" with new diseases.
"don't judge her based on her actions she might have a perfectly reasonable explanation for this you never know"
That is exactly how TRP views life. Judge by actions and their results, not by intent. Intent is theoretically great, but not the masculine way to approach thing. Too cerebral. Too feminine.
http://archive.is/9arZj
http://archive.is/Yq6N1
"If it's no longer there, it's like it never happened!"
Women treat thoughts and extra-cock the same way.
One comment got through that I liked .......
'Some were cruel, most were just regular posts, wondering about the background details like what made OP cheat, etc. It's all been removed. To protect us from the naughty thoughts and acts of the world, I guess.'
Pure gold.
Women with the typical hamster spin...
'It was three months ago and maybe she found a way to make things work. People make mistakes. She seems happy how.'
Oh yeah, but what about the part three months ago where fiance was cleaning the house and you were tied up getting fucked in the ass by Chad.
Women are so self centered even when they examine others situations, they only consider and examines the girls options and feelings. They treat men like we are privileged servants, that should just be happy we get their pussy and attention.
First time commenter on this sub long time lurker, finally decided to fully swallow the pill today. Started working out again, made a plan for my current LTR and how to become the alpha again with plates, I am going to change everything thanks to you guys.
I am a 25M who has been in two LTR back to back since 18, raised by a single mother who was a crazy cat lady, 3 times divorced man hater, who drilled being a beta into me. She literally chose for me not to have a father, let me explain.
No football, no hockey ,no basketball, only ballet and gymnastics till I was 15. Other sports are too dangerous and violent. The male coaches yell at you and are too mean. Her words.
No guns, no squirt guns, no violent video games, no movies with guns until I moved out at 18.
I come from a catholic extended family, but they all don't consider me family and I have only seen my aunt's, uncles and grandparents only 5 times in my life. Why you ask? My mom went batshit crazy after her third divorce when he left her for cheating on him with the neighbor, his best friend?!?! But according to her it was the neighbor's fault for seducing her and her husbands fault for leaving them alone.
Any who, 40 divorced and full of divorcee money, she decides to go to the doc to be artificially inseminated at random, so I can never know my father. So my older sister gets born, but it still wasn't enough according to my mom. According my mom, it was to quiet around the house. PLEASE BITCH you wanted a fucking male around.
So what did she do, she went back the doctor and had me. She hated all men at this point, including her brothers and her father now with all her money, she can tell them to fuck off and she can raise her son the right feminine way, without male distraction.
Oh boy was she fucking wrong. I can go on forever, but long story short by 12, the house she got in the divorce was turned into a full fledged cat foster center she ran for fun, 30 plus cats in one roof. Cat shit and piss everywhere, literally destroys the house. except when someone came over to adopt a cat, my mom wasn't home (working cuz ya know 2 kids) so 10 year old me and 12 year old sis were home, not being watched. This good Samaritan calls the police instead of adopting a cat and we go to CPS for a week until she figures it out.
Thing is, she could've flown us out to grandpas or her sisters but she was to proud and didn't want to be proven wrong that she is a complete failure of a parent and needed a fucking man with her to raise kids.
I sifted through a special kind of feminist hell in my youth, with my mom passing her romantics feelings of males onto me since she "stopped dating" for us kids (bitch ain't nobody want a 45 year old 3 times divorced cat lady with two kids. stop lying) Nothing weird or sexual, but she used me for emotional gratification and doesn't actually love me for me. I realize this after reading this sub.
Got prescribed Adderall at 16, shamed for porn when she reads 50 shades of grey. She said no guns ever but when I leave at 18 she immediately starts dating a ex Secret Service agent who is an avid hunter. My mom raised me that guns are horrible, all that lib fem bullshit, but I was so confused as to how she found this dude attractive.
TRP was the first place where when I was reading something, it all just clicked. I was like, ohhh I get why she liked Mr. Secret Service, women want the alpha, but raise the beta out of spite that the alpha left.
I'll stop my rant.
Btw Mr. Secret Service ran for the hills when she mentioned marriage. She was just a plate. She was shocked that he didn't want marry after meeting on match.com and dating for 4 months. Nobody explained the wall or anything to her(daddy issues to), but now she is mid 60s alone with 12 cats no friends and no family.
Dude. I think it's a miracle you're even alive. Godspeed, you magnificent bastard (no pun intended lol)
Thanks man. I have never felt the need to tell anyone about my youth until reading this sub. This sub at first to me was just a way to get laid and game women. It so much more than that. It has given me a positive outlook on my natural biological instincts instead of being ashamed about them.
This sub has brought me a great deal of mental health and I appreciate that we can have a guys only discussion without betas ,white knights and women sabotaging it.
Men's clubs need to come back. A place where men go talk to other men for advice, etc. They used to exist everywhere from what google tells me. TRP is the closest thing I have ever found and it took me 25 years.
Try Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It's the modern day real life fight club. If TRP is the haven for men's mind, a bjj dojo is the haven for men's body. Train both mind and body and transcend to the next level.
Get after those sports you want to play, go shoot at your local range, go to a boxing rink and spar, talk to people at the gym. Those are the men's clubs. I don't consider anyone my friend, but I have brothers who I met through getting out and doing shit. We keep each other out of trouble, give each other advice, and, when need be, help bury the occasional dead hooker.
Christ, I'm never complaining about anything ever again. LOL.
DUDE.
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Be at ease brother, for you have suffered enough. You are among friends. Raise a glass, to freedom!
FREEDOM!
25 years old. I found TRP a year and a half ago when I was 45. Like you said everything just clicked
Don't even get a plate for a year. Enjoy being you. Learn who you are. Get neck deep into a hobby. Lift.
Right now you're still letting pussy dictate your identity.
at least she found some 6 foot athletes donated sperm to give you some decent genes. my mom married an idgaf alpha who was basically a complete leech and loser. the red pill was a lot harder for me to swallow having had a red pill father who was a loser in every single way besides the fact that he somehow convinced this woman to house and feed him, despite him having nothing beyond frame and game. it kinda sucks that women value game more than objective reality. i'd have taken a beta father any day over a red pil hobo who beat me.
Not sure about that. We always talk about genes and ressources but parental behaviour is important. My dad is the epitome of the IDGF Alpha as well, he had a motorbike and was a punk when he met my mom. He is barely above her in terms of money but he is stupid, unintelligent, unpredictible, dangerous, impulsive, not handsome but have a ferocious look and is incredibly selfish. He punched me in the face me once, at christmas.
I asked her why she chose him instead of a conscientious beta bucks and she said she preferred the life that he injected into the home instead of a dull boring beta. That's a woman speaking here. You can argue about SMV and obsess over ressources all day but no one wants to live with a boring person. What's more : women work now, all it takes is to be dominant and I would say interesting and entertaining, tingle generators.
I thank her for her choice. Sure it was hard for me to develop discipline at school but I absolutely love the natural Alphaness that my father has given me. IDGAF and action are natural to me. Compare that with people raised by Betas, they are little slaves with no personality, crabs in the bucket basically. You surely do not have to learn to be Alpha, just peel off the shit you have been fed. It is great to be the son of an Alpha. Frame and Game should flow with relative ease for you.
i would be perfectly fine living with a boring person. i can breathe life into people and have a good time all by myself, i'll rub off on her and get her giggling at some point. all i need from her is the basics, you know, the shit that feminism made sure became a rare commodity instead of "the basics".
you're right though. i do have a natural alpha demeanor to me, but I don't attribute that to my father at all, and it seriously hits me deep knowing how many parallels there are between us. can i just write it off to ignorance on his part that he lived an empty life as a dipshit?
anyway in my case, i would have liked it if she picked someone taller cuz fuck being short. i know frame and game is more important but it sucks balls to not be as athletic because of my body type, on top of having to be extra just for baseline attraction. i get salty seeing 6 foot chodes and how easy they have it despite being nothing.
that idgaf comes naturally to me to but i realized i hurt people when i go that route. i don't want to be scum like my father and honestly that's probably the main reason i was beta as fuck for most of my childhood. my idiot mother made her choice, that's on her, but i want to be the kind of man who brings warmth into peoples lives, not a rabid dog like him.
my cousin is a curious example. his dad is red pill also and probably worse than my father in terms of personality. like they both have their good qualities but they're seriously overshadowed by all the bad shit. anyway my cousin is full on beta. i'm the kind of person that's like you will never break me, he i guess was broken down. i don't believe he's fully on indoctrinated he's too intelligent to be, i think maybe he's more about keeping the peace since trp puts some serious turbulence in society. he's the mgtow i could never be though, he doesn't give a fuck about finding a woman(he certainly has me beat in terms of genetics), i guess a little idgaf is a good thing, it doesn't do you any favors letting a bunch of shitty people affect you, family or not, they'd have me be the same slave they are.
i have trouble tapping into my alpha in a way that gets results i want tbh. i wanna be that guy everyone can be open and feel warm around but i have this like, inner demon that i can't let go. i've seen too much shit to just be a fun guy all the time, and it annoys the shit out of me how many people life to them is all about fun and parties, can't take shit seriously if their life depended on it.
Just an awsome post, man. Much respect to you for already getting your shit together at 25. You sound strong-minded and strong-willed.
Most importantly, I'm glad you didn't end up becoming self-loathing or really f'ed up!
Dude, ballet and gymnastics are far more demanding than most of the other sports on your list. The level of discipline and drive needed to succeed is incredible. They may have a 'girly' reputation, but there is nothing weak about them.
Try going into your 4th grade elementary school in full tights, make up and ballet shoes with your mom and sister also in costume to hand out fliers to the dance recital we are hosting at the high school that weekend. I remember male teachers and dads openly laughing at me when I was not looking or I just got the look of, "That kid is fuuuuucked" We went to every class and every grade. I got made fun of for yeeeeears. I grew up in rich white conservative Minnesota suburb. I still to this day remember that being the official day I realized something was wrong I fucking hated my mother.
Aaaaaaaand that's fucked up. It's one thing to wear the gear when practicing and performing, but making you wear it outside of that is an attempt to deliberately ostracize you from your peers. That is abuse on a level way beyond getting yelled at by a mean coach.
If I had any advice for you, it's don't let the hate for your mother poison the man you are. Holding onto hate for too long can be self-destructive. That is letting her win.
Change the hate to apathy or contempt. Be the best man you can be in spite of her efforts.
shit like this is why I worry when a 4 year old boy thinks he's a girl and the parents run with it, consider him transgender and basically reshape his world as a girl.
There is no room anymore for any degree of confusion. A 4 year old child is supposed to make their mind up very clearly about what their place is in the world.
My cousin tried this when he was young, his sisters would dress him up as a girl and say he was a pretty little girl. He went to my father and said he was a girl. My father said no you're not, put an end to the dressup and he went on to a normal life, 20+ years married, couple of kids, no dysfunction at all.
Today, if this child were to do this and an adult said no, you're a boy/girl based on your genetics, this would raise a holy shitstorm. For me, I'm not prepared to say transgenderism does not exist. I'm not a scientist. Even if it doesn't exist I don't give a flying fuck because I believe in freedom. If you're a man and want to transform your body into an approximation of a woman: go for it. You can be a unicorn and I will applaud your choice and your freedom to execute it and fuck everyone who says you can't do with your own body what you don't want to do.
But this shit, telling a 4 year old who is confused, that they're the opposite to what their body is, is just digging a fucking hole for the poor kid. Let those decisions be made by adults, not by children.
If you want to listen to a 4 year old or a 5 year old, they're going to want to eat ice cream all day and watch cartoons and crap in their pants. It's supposed to be the role of adults to straighten out childhood bullshit.
50 years down the road we're going to have some better perspective but I would really love to see a study, a good one, about the parents and family of transgender youths and how much of an influence is there.
It was like she was trying to raise you to be gay.
Damn, bro. You're stronger than Anderson Cooper.
Holy shit. Its a miracle you turned out ok. Thank god for TRP.
The good news and what you need to know: literally no one but you remember that happened.
Nothing to be ashamed of.
I did three years of ballet, I want to say 3rd, 4th, and 5th grades. Dudes at that age are super obsessed about being seen as masculine dudes so you have to be pretty confident to do something like ballet and you did develop strength in character.
I never wore the clothing outside of practice though. I remember my mother got me these tights that were clearly for girls since you could see my junk and I refused to wear them. I usually just wore leggings (which despite being a chick clothing are incredibly comfortable) and then only for the practice. Even a lot of the older dudes just wore athletic shorts.
That is a crazy story. Ever done a psychedelic drug before?
not a girly man
God speed man. I hope you become the man you want to be, you have plenty of time ahead, take it easy, be brave and don't give up !
I won't give you any advise, as i don't consider muself alpha - but what i can tell RP makes you happy because you start doing shit for yourself and in spite of everyone wanting you to fall into the obedient spinless blob.
This place is here for guys like you. Good luck brother.
I am glad that you are doing OK. You might want to get a DNA test to see your genetic background. It will give you a link to the past.
Your mother is a cruel person, and you will be wise to keep her at distance as you do.
About the Secret Service guy, a lot of women worship government officials, armed or not, because they have power. She did not want you to have anything associated with power because she feared that if you were manly it would upset the apple cart.
Yours is on the extreme side, but similar to a lot of guys here (including myself). I'd say a significant amount of the men here on TRP were raised by single mothers or pushover fathers.
I've sadly gotten to the point where I can only laugh when people ask why a single mother can't properly raise a boy. It's because she doesn't know how the male mind or body works.
What does a heterosexual woman know about flirting or seducing women? If she did, how does she teach that to her son?
What does a women know about the intense flood of testosterone coursing through our bodies at teenagers?
What does a woman know about masculinity and the responsibility that comes with it?
Dude what your mom did to you is called covert incest, look it up. Sounds like you're already found the righteous path, so best of luck continuing your journey.
Found it in my 30's, it explained pretty much all of my life's experiences accurately so it just clicked. You are not alone.
Dude, you were literally in some deep shit. But the positive side of this is that you'll be able to sniff a feminist bitch miles away before she shows off her tentacles like Davy Jones. Get your life back and I now figure out why I avoid girls who say they love cats very much.
thanks for the archived links
The special snowflake stupid bitch thinks being kinky is a trait only a few people have.
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i'm sure women were just as trashy before the internet was invented, their shit is just exposed out in the open now so it's easier for guys like us to accept the truth and not get baited.
You would have cheating, but remember that women take the shape of the container. It was not acceptable, either socially, legally, or within a personal relationship, for women to be total sluts like they are encouraged to be now. The type of 'finding herself sexually' experimenting, disloyalty to her marriage oaths, and belittling of the men who cared for her, would have been unthinkable. She would be seen as a trashy woman who needed to be put back in her place, rather than lionised as a 'strong, independent, womyn'.
So AWALT was still there, the propensity to act in that way was still present, but it could not readily become actual behaviour.
Social norms sound sexy when you put it that way. Some trashy hoe says and does dumb shit, people proceed to gasp and ostracized her. Sign me up who do I have to shoot?
It's funny but not funny how accurate that last sentence is.
how on earth did we fall so far? they'll do whatever and be whatever we want them to be, and we chose this, like holy fuck. i guess there were some guys who wanted to be nice to their wives and be considerate towards them and it all went downhill from there. they get 1 yes dear out of you and it's gotcha bitch.
Civilization collapse in the making, and it has happened fairly rapidly, I agree. But the seeds were all there ready and waiting.
1) Men are biased in favour of women. Without White Knights then feminists could do nothing.
2) Penis envy. Women are extremely jealous of the achievements of men, always have been, always will be.
3) Industrialization, and the concommittent increase in 'safe, non-physical' jobs like office work, which meant that women could go out and do work outside the home, which previously they would never have wanted to do because it was so hard. In a woman's mind, this translates into, 'he works outside the home, I work outside the home, therefore a woman can do anything a man can do. Therefore we are equal in every way, and women should have equal say in how society is run'.
I don't think so, back in the day infidelity was frowned upon and women were kept in line. They also married earlier and had children
it's called playing the game. there's a lot of virgin good girls that thanks to the sexual revolution giving them permission to find herself with all the chad cock in every orifice.
Eh. Do you think those burka bitches are out riding the CC?
Women are as big of whores as we (men) allow them to be.
They want to slut out, but if society won't have it they only do it under the most clandestine circumstances.
It is more degenerate. As a whole, society is far far more narcissistic than it used to be. In general, the older I get the more and more I hate young people because they are all living in a damn dream world. Yes let's post our entire lives online for everyone to see. Had a drink at a bar? Gotta post a selfie. Eating food? Selfie. Someone said something you didn't like? Post an "888 Didn't Read Shit" 10000 word diatribe online about what happened and how that person is the worst person ever.
Having any sort of morals anymore and sticking to those morals is no longer the norm. Everyone advocates for narcissism, what a world we live in.
I'm 31, and a few years ago it really hit me that very few people my age have any sense of honor (I know it sounds corny, but it's true). Men are becoming almost as flaky and unreliable as women. People just don't care about having character anymore. I blame it on the education system's obsession with "self-esteem" and cultural marxism. Young men are basically being told that they shouldn't worry about acting like women because gender is just a social construct.
Morals are useful for society and male relationships but you shouldn't have morals when it comes to women. They don't deserve morals or compassion.
I totally want to lift ten 45-plates some day.
Plenty of good women out there, you just have to look harder to find them.
Why?
I really dont understand why anyone would do that.
Just like the mods on this page.
I actually saw this fiasco unfold. Wish I knew how to take screenshots. Its even better than OP describes it.
The girl in question was cheating on her husband because he was a beta. She cheated on him with a Dom that treated her like filth and degraded and dominated her. The end of her post about cheating was like, "I miss my dom so much! I wasn't able to fully please him and its tearing me up inside!"
Then she goes on TwoX and gives a pat on the head to her cucked husband for white knighting in front of his grand parents.
The funniest part is if the kid had taken his grand fathers advice and manned the fuck up and treated her like the lost helpless child she is, he wouldn't be a pathetic cuck.
Once the curtain was pulled back and the full RP truths were on full display the mods were like "SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT! IT! DOWN!" like a bunch of agent Smithettes attacking a glitch in the femimatrix.
Moral of the story? Always listen to your grand pappy. He knows the fucking score.
Good summary. Why does 2X censor like that? Amazing that the girl would make such conflicted posts on reddit. Goes to show what we hear around here about some women not being conscious/self aware of their behavior and only acting at the instinctual level.
For future reference, if you are on windows and want to screenshot, look for the "snipping tool". It's a handy little device. You can also just press the "PrtSc" button and then go into paint, "Ctrl+V" and save the resultant image.
Because that sub Reddit is a fucking echo chamber for whores, feminists and so on
Because 2X is a recognized main sub that is designed for women worshipping themselves. Can't break the circlejerk
they degrade the word troll even further, as if newfags that barely learn netspeak didn't do enough by turning it into an umbrella term for any person annoying you
Because feminists know that if you subject feminism to any scrutiny, it collapses like the house of cards that it is. Feminism can only exist in an echo chamber.
Hamster explains the censorship.
If it's a cheating woman, it must be rationalized and swept under the rug because cheating is bad. Also, she was probably raped when she "cheated". <we're so sorry this happened to you!>
If it's a cheating man, he's a horrible person forever and we need trigger warnings on the story. <we're so sorry this happened to you!>
Personally, I view either cheater the same. If you sign up for an exclusive relationship and don't abide by that, you're not living up to your word and I lose respect for you.
Women never honor their word though. So the bbest deal for a man is not to get into a relationship.
Generalizations are often useful, but very few statements like this one are accurate.
The statement that women will never honor their word crosses into the realm of irrational sexism. Women do honor their words, but just like men, there are circumstances where they will choose not to do so.
If you're a 3 in a monogamous LTR with a 3 and a hb10 offers herself you, there's a strong chance you're going to not honor your word to your 3 in that circumstance.
The best deal for a man might be to not get into a relationship, yes, but I think that's something to be determined on an individual basis.
Very few women honor their words. They don't feel that sense of morality or loyalty. Men can be hypergamous too yes, but men can also love. Women cant.
They don't see it as conflicted.
Alt+PrtScr for cropping glory.
The philosophy of censorship is identical to this sub: it is not a democracy. Granted, this place is chill and if a man is called out for being a hypocrite, those critics will not be silenced, but in the end, we have no power above the mods of this sub, either.
Or just hit Win+PrntScr to auto save the screen in your pictures folder. No hassle.
gosh.. what a fucking idiot this BOY is..
listen to your elders and dont yell at them back.
Except my grandad. He's a cuck.
Lightshot for Chrome or Firefox is the go-to for screenshots.
If you're using windows you can easily take a screenshot using the "snipping tool" easiest way to do it and it allows you to copy only the part you want to take a screen shot of.
the whole thing wreaks of irony.
The grandpa doesn't criticize the guy for doing housework, he doesn't care. The grandpa is defending himself against the grandma, who is criticizing the guy for doing housework.
capiche?
Always listen to your grandpappy. He knows the score.
Thats whats up. Ill be quotingg you sir.
Huge red flag here. Margaret Thatcher said "if you have to tell people you're a lady, you're not". Similarly if she needs to so warrantlessly and openly remind herself that she's grateful for her man, she isn't. Women who are truly grateful for their partners show it via their actions not by adding a sentence to the end of a post on reddit.
She said it for the sake of her own image; as a way to elevate her status among TwoX readers by asserting that she has an amazing partner with the implication being that most of the readers on TwoX don't.
Maybe he doesn't mind but she sure as shit does or else she wouldn't have felt it necessary to include this useless piece of information in her post. This is a humblebrag. She included it to show TwoX that she earns an above average income, while also showing how progressive and accepting she is of those less able or competent than herself. Textbook passive aggressive.
No surprise here as to why she sought a D/S relationship. Textbook submissive behavior. Instead of acting herself, she urged her man to act on her behalf regardless of how strongly she felt about the situation. She's a coward.
I'm going to read between the lines a bit here and guess she's older than her fiance by more than a couple of years. He's a classic beta whom she settled for after riding the CC. He's still at college/university and working part time while she's full-time and she wears the pants in the relationship, which she resents. He thinks their relationship is fine, maybe even good. The poor sod has no clue what he's about to marry.
I'm betting that she fabricated her fiance's entire side of the exchange. They went to dinner, her fiance's grandfather made a comment that triggered her. She gripped her fiance's hand and he placated her death grip by changing the topic of conversation or playing the remark off as a joke. She was furious and her hamster started spinning. She spent the rest of the night thinking about the perfect comeback to what what was said and after the silent car ride home where she repeatedly told her fiance she was "fine" she hopped on reddit to share her story with TwoX so she could salvage some validation out of an otherwise shitty night.
B...B...But the feminists told me the best way to make a woman horny is to do household chores. The feminists wouldn't lie!
All praise the Goddess.
The man feminists want you to become is not the man they want to date.
his name was robert paulson
His name was robert paulson
His name was Robert Paulson
One of my tinder matches actually started cooking for me because one of my pics made me look "malnutritioned." Her words. I told her since she's so worried about me to come me healthy food herself and she actually did.
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Because the blue pill fantasy is appealing. Red pill truths are painful and alienating.
The reality is many/most women will abandon you when you need them the most (when you get sick, injured, laid off, are having financial or emotional problems, etc). Women have a sexual strategy that is totally selfish just like men do. Women care about money and status far more than they act like they do. Many women like being degraded and dominated sexually instead of treated as equals. Many women will destroy a perfectly good nuclear family because of the tingles. Women are very hypergamous and view most men as not good enough. etc.
Those truths are hard to accept. It is easier to just believe the delusion that women only care about love, and that all you have to do is be a loving, respectful feminist and women will love and respect you back and she will never cheat or lose interest.
It is the same reason people believe in religion so strongly. The alternative is too scary to contemplate.
This is the main reason it took me so long to swallow TRP. But shit test after shit test later, I finally wised up.
I so don't want to believe this, but I keep seeing more and more evidence that it's true. I don't understand why basically no women are honest about this.
if you're new, really everything men and women do is viewed in the light of what we did for 500k years, lived as hunter gatherers.
And for 2 billion years, women wanted the best DNA that would guarantee survival. As we were fucking amoebas, to rats, to monkeys, ect. it was get the big bad alpha. Every. Time. The biggest strongest DNA. And people will tell you that now women are different? Because we've been "civilized" for like .00000000001% of that time? Now it's just shut off and women want nice guys?
While that is true, when mammals developed mating strategies that require long term investment in dependent young, animals started looking for resources, security and protection too. So women also want that. They want the high quality DNA but they also want resources, security and protection. However the state can provide most of those now, leaving women to fuck a string of good looking bad boys and rely on child support and welfare to pay the bills. Women don't even really need beta bux anymore, the state has that role.
Yep. All women are married to the government already.
yeah but money wont keep a girl over an alpha.
because it puts them in a good light, their reputation is very important to them (in the tribe, it was EVERYTHING to them. A woman with bad standing in the tribe could be kicked out and that's it, she's done for)
because sunken cost fallacy.
Yes. Hopefully it turns into a trp fairytale and he leaves her when she hits her wall, becomes red pill and fucks chicks 20 years younger than him while she is alone and miserable. A man can dream
i have a girl who has stayed with me during multiple times of unemployment that were not trivial. as far as i can tell she has not cheated. i check phones and shit, been burned in the past so i am on the paranoid side of things when it comes to that.
i wonder if something about it is too good to be true. can't figure it out. she still cooks every night and cleans. we've been together for 2 years so i'm waiting for the awalt shoe to drop and i'm prepared for it. i'll walk no questions asked and she knows it.
have i found a nawalt? idk.
Think of it this way: just because "many" people have had their lives transformed by winning the lottery, doesn't mean you should hedge your bets and a significant chunk of your money in order to win the lottery, unlike many others I've seen. Any intelligent person would understand that the probability is astronomically small.
This is also why guys major in computer science or something practical and make good money. Sure, you can major in something useless and be successful. There's "plenty" of people with useless degrees or no degrees that are rich as fuck. But many guys don't want to risk it, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you are extremely confident and fearless . The odds are usually not in your favor.
TRP is just a model of the world and should not be taken as an absolute that answers all questions and explains all situations. NAWALT is just a probability-driven statement that implies more times than not that you will be hurt rather than helped by women. Nothing is guaranteed in life and your unicorn could disappear the next day for reasons you cannot understand even though you think it's improbable. It's all about risk analysis and personal choice in the end. What do you want in life and what risks are you willing to take to achieve it? TRP is just a tool, like the many tools in your life, to help you to achieve your wants and desires.
Yup, thats why I said many/most. Many/most men will find a woman less attractive as she gets older and fatter. Many/most women will find a guy less attractive if he loses his ability to provide security, resources and protection.
However lots of guys stick with old and fat wives, and lots of women stick with men who can't provide for or protect them.
The real problem becomes when s/he starts to realize they have better options out there. That or she really is just a decent person who can suppress her internal urges. Hopefully the latter. I'm not a subscriber to the AWALT theory. Lots of men do things that are not in their genetic interest (raise someone else's kids, stick with ugly, fat, old women, etc). Women are no different. But I think on some level men are bred by genetics and society to be more selfless than women since our genetic strategy is based on selflessness (living for women and children's benefit). So maybe that isn't a great comparison.
that's a good point about suppressing internal urges. when i was looking, i specifically was looking for a girl who would go against her girlfriends consensus. i'm short, her friends were talking shit and she still did what she felt. i've seen her stop herself from buying into her own bullshit before, too, and be more logical than any other girl i've met.
maybe i just pre-screened really well.
still watching my back tho. feel like you can never do that too much as long as doing so doesn't rule you.
Sounds like you did your "due diligence", and it's paying off.
Sounds like you found a good one. Train her, reward the good, punish the bad, and maybe you can build something we all wish we could have. But first you have to be a badass every day. Never forget that
Dread can be very effective, but don't think you can just ease up and relax now. Lots of guys make that mistake when they get married, and so they get cheated on because he has removed the possibility of dread, and has stopped giving tingles. You always have to game her.
Also, obviously, don't sign any binding contracts with her, like marriage, shared ownership of a house, etc. Do that, and you will find her behaviour much more likely to change. You know the rule, right? For the first year of marriage, put a penny in a jar everytime you have sex. After the first year, take a penny out every time you have sex. The jar will never get empty.
So enjoy, but don't think it is 'forever', take it while it lasts.
over 2 years and no talk of marriage on either end. she doesn't seem interested, i'm definitely not. lease is in my name only. in over 2 years she's turned me down for sex under 1 handful of times- i count.
sound too good to be true right? maybe i'm better at this than i thought..
You could be a fuckin' bum for 2 years. If she thinks that your SMV is significantly higher than yours, she will stay. Their valuation is always different, some prefer money, some looks, some personality etc...
I thought I found that girl, she was with me for around 2 years until she found an asian persuasion to swing branches.
Good luck to you man, I wish you the best. Nobody should ever be cheated on, and the cheaters deserve no love.
All women cheat on men, so all men should cheat as well.
You seemed to have answered your own question.
That's the actual reason she's still with you, your attitude. It's called dread game.
We're all just advanced chimpanzees. Just because we can build rockets and smartphones doesn't mean we aren't absolute savages in our core. Everyone around you is an animal that is ultimately chained to the impulses of their biology. Everything that negates or mitigates that is the result of social conditioning. It's a freeing truth, and it can also be somewhat uncomfortable to ponder.
This. If there is one thing I wish more people could understand its this.
We are the third chimpanzee. You got the bonobos that are a matriarchy, the troglodytes that are a patriarchy, and us.
I have seen good articles on the theory that humans are an advanced species only because women evolved concealed ovulation. Literally the reason we have civilization is because evolution made women deceitful.
I've never heard that theory, what is it called and do you have any papers on it?
It was my understanding that our brains grew 300% in the last 1.5 million years due to climate changes. But I'd be interested to learn how concealed ovulation also caused a brain explosion.
We are but civilized beasts.
Hell my own mother reacts to TRP actions. Sees I am turning into (more than) my father and she hates it. She was supposed to raise a BP cuck but instead raised me to see the truths in what my Dad has done. Hell even the bloke she ended up marrying I threw out the house once and even arrested him. Her mind imploded when that happened. Her little boy managed to fuck up her night in shining blue armour.
The fuck do you do when your 70 years old? Hire hookers or go to the bar and try and pick up? Been wondering that lately.
There are 70 year old on Tinder.
They're on that testosterone patch. When I'm 70 I'll just hire whores twice a month and spend the rest riding my harley, fishing, chess, books, tai chi, brewing my own beer, and chopping wood
When you're 70 I don't think the sex is worth the effort.
Shit man, std's are rampant in nursing homes. Lots of people still get freaky well into their 'golden' years.
Hookers is the sensible route to go, or do a Stinky Stan. That why the woman can pretend she really isn't a whore.
But we all know she'll love it
The favorite line of older women is she is just fucking him for his money what that translates into is I wish he was into fucking old worn old things so I could get some of the money
To give you an honest answer, I've got a buddy around 60-70 and he says he'll get a blowjob every once in a blue moon from a nice old girl 50ish or so.
He won't go out with any girls 50 or above., takes getting old and desperate to fuck at that age.
That Kinda blows.. damn if women weren't so screwed up nowadays I wouldn't be contemplating soloing it out till that age. Maybe I should focus on finding a LTR and having kids when I hit the 40s
c'este la vie, sperm degrades after 40-50s, and women become menopausal eventually.
I wouldn't recommend kids without 200K income, but I wouldn't advise the whole rest of the world have kids either at that standard....
You have to make the choice yourself, whether or nor the "USA 200K quality life" is for you or not.
I work doors. I met a guy last weekend who is 70+ and is doing women ~40. By 20 year old standards 40 is old as fuck. But when 40 is 30+ years younger than you you can bet your bottom dollar that mother fucker is redder than red.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6560352/Baron-John-Sewel-drug-binges-with-prostitutes.html
when your 70 your balls are filled with dust and there' no testosterone to enslave you into needing pussy so you dont' care about it anymore
I would think you just take a sex tourism trip every so often. Go to Brazil or Thailand or Czech Republic, smash a years worth, and repeat in a year or so.
Or just retire to Thailand or Brazil and get a 25 year old wife.
I think most men truely know the risks. The desire to have kids and family can be strong enough to ignore all the red flags.
Many men love their kids enough to at least try to put up with a shrew for 18 years
Women only tell the truth when they think no one is looking. The hamster can't see all of your eyeballs online, and sometimes forgets.
Goes to show that women hear and comprehend what they want, when they want."
Aka "Integrity Amnesia." Doesn't matter what they promised before, this is now, and it feels different, so it is different, and all previous contracts are null and void.
The sad part is that she most likely told him about her interest in BDSM. Some people just don't appreciate the power dynamics and the lengths people will go to in order to fulfill their kink.
funny how receptive women are to a redpill relationship when you pretend it is a bdsm kink
Yes because they can hamster it away as "the bedroom only".
Power exchange goes both ways.
That is awesome.
That poor, poor man. He will eventually figure out how badly he has been conned by his fiance and by society at large which encouraged him to act like this. When he does it will take years to recover. I'm sure he will end up posting here in 5+ years.
Hi.
No he won't, he will be raising that little half black cuck as if it is his own. That is what a real man does.
Lessons learned: Never trust a bitch. Never get married. Never commit. Always dominate your women. Do not give them vanilla sex, give them hardcore pound fucking. Be sexist misogynist etc sjw words and make her do all the gender roled stuff she's supposed to do as a woman. Keep house work for the bitches.
Yes. Women need to be led. Their emotions rapidly change on a daily basis. They act based off said emotions. As a man, having the ability to say no, and sticking to it, is a trait women love in men.
Yup. Men need to be dominant.
Say no to what ? Can you put some examples?
Whatever you don't feel like doing. Keep it simple.
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It's a common trope that people with nothing constructive to say rely on ad hominems.
Gratz on living up to the trope.
If you have anything constructive to ad, you are invited to do so.
What did they say? The professional bitch deleted their comment.
It was nothing. Something like "That's what you got from this? You guys are are absurd" He actually engaged quite civilly and constructively after that. He was a long way from ready for the Red Pill though.
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To analyze what you've said in more detail...
"Obviously it was shitty of her to cheat"
It was entirely predictable using TRP knowledge. It's called Beta Bucks, Alpha Fucks. And it's not shitty, if you recognize that women follow a biological imperative. Fish swim. Birds fly. Women look for alpha genes and beta providers.
What we are taking from the story is that it fits the TRP model perfectly. It's one more example that TRP knowledge has shown itself true in the real world. She has her beta, but is unfulfilled. She fucks an Alpha behind his back, then a few months later pretends it never happened.
All this exactly predicted by the phrase AWALT, which stands for All Women Are Like That. Sure, there are outliers. Lesbians, feminists, the mentally handicapped, the clinically insane, etc that do not fit the model, but they are outliers.
This womans behavior is exactly predicted by TRP, and the solution is also elucidated.
Be the Alpha, not the beta.
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"You guys"??? You replied to a single poster. So why bring up "you guys"?
Neither are all the men here. See the irony? Or are you mental?
Ha, verbally bitch slapped. Nice response
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Can I ask how old you are or how many women you've ever spanked?
Do enlighten us on the lesson to be learned.
Get out of TRP if yyou can't agree with what I said. You won't like it here lmao.
I would LOVE to see some statistics on the number of people that are banned from individual subs... and see just how strongly that number correlates with the SJW-iness of the sub.
I know a lot of dudes here are against broknighting but I just have to school niggas like that when I meet them in real life
I like to try broknighting, but there's like a 50/50 chance the dumb beta schmuck will hamster it away and then use anything you said against you in the hopes of making some girl like him.
Which is why you have to know your audience. You can't save everyone, but you can know who to save. In a way knowing who to broknight is a good way to practice judging character.
More like 80/20. Then again when done right its gold. Had a friend of a friend, we will call him the beta, in college that was white knight to the max. We kept him around because we enjoyed fucking with him on a couple of occasions. At one point we are over at the apartment of the girl the beta was orbiting. He was liberally talking shit to about my friend while my friend was out of the room. So eventually the girl is going upstairs to bang my friend. At that point the beta literally body blocks the stairs and grabs both handrails so she can't get by. I'm on the couch with the LTR of the time, and we are looking at each other with a 'get the popcorn, this is going to be good face.' Eventually she tells him to leave or she's going to call the cops. So after a good ten minutes he backs off and storms out.
In a couple of days, he was right back in orbit.
You cannot afford to do it with work colleagues, unless you know them really well outside of work, and even then it is risky unless they have shown some awareness by themselves. Sad, but never underestimate feminist-dominated HR depts to fuck you over.
I honestly find that more satisfying than scoring a new girl.
I do too. Unplugging men is awesome. Very risky tho. I find friendships with men more satisfying than all the sex I've had. This sjw tumblr bitch I used to fuck told me I'm homoromantic because I enjoy spending time with bros, and only spend time with girls when I'm horny.
i dont care. i am altruistic. i refuse to let the weaker conniving ungrateful gender take advantage of the honorable gender who's been lied to and is holding their word...can't do it.
You mean the inferior gender.
Yes. The reproductive gender. The gender that invented nothing and has a far weaker physical strength all across the board.
Exactly. Women exist to breed, nothing more. They serve very little other purposes.
Their tiny brains are very cute though
No woman wants a man who waits on them hand and foot everyday. That shit is boring. It's not that this guy does the house work. He's probably just soft all around. He probably does all of this stuff to compensate for lacking elsewhere, whether that be the bedroom, personality, or whatever else.
Nothing surprises me about woman any more. "A women can only be as loyal as a double agent."
I guess that's why she's "a women" instead of "a woman". A double agent is like two people in one.
I think most women have at least 2-500 different personalities sharing one body.
I think most women have at least 2-500 different personalities sharing one body.
Two of yours think the same way, anyway ;)
Fearlessly walked into TwoXterritory once again.
Got upvoted.
Slightly.
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As we say at TRP: don't listen to what a woman says, watch what she does.
This is a classic example. Holds true even over at TwoX.
She is exploring her sexuality and her husband isnt insecure like you ☺
TwoX is one of those weird subreddits where it's built to support and empower women (in theory) but all it ever does is reinforce the worst possible behaviors.
I had a limited disagreement with some dunce over there about why she didnt feel it was important to report a rapist (again, likely not a rapist, just post-sex guilt). She had no coherent response and I left her with "then it's okay for other women to be raped by him? You're letting a rapist walk free to rape women and you're fine with that, and the women here are fine with that as well?"
Nothing but a toxic subreddit. It wouldnt surprise me if some time in the future it was revealed that their mods were 4chan dudes trolling the ever living fuck out of a dozen or so stupid facebooking, stay-at-home moms.
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I bet they say great things to say about her husband while fucking.
Thank you for these reminders. In all seriousness.
i'm a natural redpiller
i only come on red pill for the lulz
DOWNVOTE CUZ I DON'T BELEIVE U
Lol guys, mature
Reading that it's actually subtle. Doing housework is just that. You're not living in a pig sty. It's more that he seems to be submissive and "supports" her career. And she earns more money than him.
He should have been slapping his dick off her face every day and saying No a lot. And also sorting out his own shit in life.
I find it hilarious that she blames the DOM for not helping her be more submissive
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She's talking about the Dom guy here, not her boyfriend, which is hilarious to me.
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So she made a post showcasing her simp fiancée and got caught fucking around and people actually did the right thing? Great job, Reddit. There may still be hope for you.
If it's true men are biologically wired to fuck as many women as possible then the equal wiring for women tells them to always look for a better option. They are constantly on the lookout for a better man, it is in their "wiring".
Is it just me or is twox full of hate? I was browsing reddit without logging in and forgot it was a default sub and it reminded why I made an account to just remove that sub.
Man, it's stuff like this that makes me want to stop believing in marriage and women.
How can you become a dominant and strong man, when you've been raised by semi-beta parents ?
you need to grind your ass. break the cycle morty.
Yep. Things like feminism and all that horseshit has always been around. It isn't new and it isn't surprising. So listen to the guys who have been there and done that.
This is definetely save material.
The next step I see someone trying to pull the "it's [CURRENT_YEAR] Men should cook/clean too", I can rub that one on his face.
This says a lot.
We all know the pay gap theories are utter crap. I would counter that and say, the pay gap is very real. But not in favor of men!
After my most recent round of raises I awarded at work, yes women actually got the higher raises and bonuses. And no, as their manager I can personally attest that this was not due to merit rather the fact they have a vagina and "Durrr women in tech, herp di derp!"
This particular woman earns more than her husband so the husband is at home wearing the pinny setting dinner out for her. So that relationship dynamic is fucked. Ten bucks says that the sex was vanilla because she isn't attracted to him enough to let him rough sex her like she seems to want.
The grandparents know the dynamic is wrong. The man is the subservient simply by virtue of his paycheck. So why isn't she entitled to go get some strange because she's the head of the house, she runs the ship, fuck what the dinner boy thinks!
is it just me or did she definitely cheat oh her husband with her grandfather? I mean he is really step grandfather not related so . . .
only a cuck would do the chores
What a rather typical story... but I wish to throw my two pence on a wrong message which is being risked to be sent out there.
It's not that there anything wrong or bad with knowing how to do housework & actually doing it per se but what is being conveyed but doing or helping out with housework.
In this case what I can guess his grandparents made fun of him because he came across as trained mule on a leash to relieve her excessively at her leisure rather than to handle things up his own as an independently capable individual where she's left less leverage if any to walk out on him. Experienced people are usually capable to size up such situations at a glance.
Of course on the other hand she doesn't have such knowledge one way or another with her Dom guy because in her relationship with him she is unable to attain it thus playing completely to the Doms advantage.
In summary, more skills the better if conveyed well through their application.
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Straight from the horse's mouth... I dont know why i am still surprised by this behavior sometimes...
Why are the usernames blocked out? It's a satisfying verification of red pill but could this not be two unrelated women?
you can look up the threads on reddit
someone posted the archived version of the reddit posts in this thread
http://archive.is/9arZj
http://archive.is/Yq6N1
Wow. Thanks for verifying this. This is the shit that should be brought to the Guardian for the public to ponder.
How can she not realize this hypocrisy herself, it is so obvious? One day shes posting saying how unforfilled she is and the enxt day saying how great he is. how can she do that?
It's fake. Her fiance never said that shit. Do you really think he suddenly, for no reason, bring up the "i make less money" thing ? That's what she invented in her mind.
You do realise half the shit people post on this site is fake? Go through anyones post history and in each sub they're acting like a completely different person just to get that sweet karma.