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by oZeplikeo on /r/TheRedPill
09 November 2016 05:32 PM UTC
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| Title | Post Election - remember the 38th Law of Power |
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| Author | oZeplikeo |
| Upvotes | 799 |
| Date | 09 November 2016 05:32 PM UTC (3 years ago) |
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Every time I feel the urge to respond to social media misinformation I remember that the person is only virtue-signaling. Anything that impedes their signaling for validation will be turned against me, even if it is respectful, logical, and supported by evidence.
The poster's goal isn't to find truth, but to signal others to validate them. When everyone is doing this it creates an open exchange of validation.
RP teaches us to only find validation from within.
Yep to me it's very likely that they're doing it for the validation.
Tells a lot about the person, always lying to conform with others and how they're mentally weak. The mentally weak part probably translates to other parts of their lives.
That's why I self sensor some of my own posts, is it meaningful or just virtue signalling.
On this post, I submitted it as a personal anecdote that shows support of, and agreement with, the views in your post.
https://twitter.com/mohamedghilan/status/796409720579837952
BE CAREFUL:
They're calling attention to & targeting Neo-masculinity. The Alt-right, Manosphere, TRP, NRX are effective immediately becoming scapegoats you have to be extra careful there are witchhunts that're going to start happening.
That's honestly one of the funniest things I've read in a very long time. We were told to hide our opinions? What the fuck? We just didn't want to waste our time and energy getting harassed by simple people who refuse to be bipartisan about things.
Hell, even talking to very close friends got strenuous. I was silent because I was silenced, not because I was doing something sinister in the shadows.
It's so bizarre how these people play the bully and the victim, while thinking they can get away with it. This election is a newsflash to them, because they can't (and thus they throw their tantrums, being told no for the first time in 8 years).
Wow, that is an amazing way of putting it, rings so true.
The term "crybullies" gets used a lot to describe that.
It really defines most modern "activists", they want you to shut your mouth because you don't know what you're talking about and can't possibly be dealing with anything half as terrible as they are so your opinion is invalid, and then they want your support and sympathy over how bad they all have it.
It really is hilarious. The definition of delusion.
Exactly how I feel. I never hold back in my speech. I work in a place where it's encouraged...and in my private life...holy shit do I bust out the anti-PC vocabulary! I'm cute and charismatic so I've always got away with it. But now, it's like a Grade A stamp.
I hide my opinions at work to an extent, but I do not see how supporting Trump (or Hillary) go fit in line with TRP logic. If this is truly about being an alpha man, can you really support a man who brags about sexual assault? I perfectly undercut any argument supporting any of these two.
So ugh.... Listen to the tape of trump again bro...
You will notice his wording. "If you are rich and famous women will let you grab their pussy" is not equal to "Man I grabbed all those womens pussy" which media has spinned it to.
And we support Trump because Hillary would be Feminism on steroids. Thats enough to vote Trump.
I heard the tape. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I'm not going to pretend Trump, a grown man who lashes out at people on twitter like a 17 year old, is alpha, a leader or worthy of respect. Let's be honest here. They both suck just in different ways.
Depends on what you mean by Alpha but the dude is definitely not the Stoic type.
He is Alpha when it comes to getting girls but thats mainly money. Or well, was. The dudes old now.
However, like I said, he isnt someone who has admitted committing sexual assault.
There was another post here that said while Trump did not hold frame perfectly, he faced pressure that none of us ever had. Imagine half of America calling you a rapist and all the media saying it too. Would you not breakdown?
I'm still on the fence if he is an example of RP. I'm leaning to not quite, but you have to admit that he does have his strengrhs.
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I heard the tape, I'm not "parroting" anyone so please be respectful. His comments after that specific tape were what put the nail in the coffin for me. His accusers are in the double digits and his only denial is the women aren't attractive enough. He's currenty facing a civil suit for rape of a 13 year old... If I'm smart enough to believe Bill Clinton is a pervert, I'm smart enough to believe your cuckdaddy trump is a pervert as well. Now piss off.
That was probably the... well, weirdest thing I've seen yet.
There isn't any radicalization.
We're just tired of being called racists because we're white.
It isn't that hard of a concept to understand...
You nailed it.
Everyone who voted trump is KKK... ok so is 47million people are KKK, how the hell is everyone else not strung up by a tree?
Intellectual dishonestly only can have its effect for so long... now any opinion of these PC darlings will be met will rolling eyes from now on.
It's called the silent majority for a reason. Also nomies ain't gonna jive with my shitposting hobby no matter my smv or other cool hobbies, they don't need to know about my rare Pepe collection
>tfw you can't tell your plate about that sick 777 get you had
The world is a harsh place man.
I find it humorous when they say: The manosphere wants to return to a "country that never existed".
It's like Nineteen Eighty-Four. They've already destroyed and forgotten all the history books. LOL
Triggered. This is an actual thing
'tHIS' is an actual thing?!?!?!?
TRIGGERED!!!!!
See this is why I use an alt not even my closest friends or family knows
The amount of hamstering in her tweets.
Good lord.
I like the response "when 90% of blacks vote for Obama it's great. See the hypocrisy?" Whites are the only race not allowed to enjoy their identity.
I don't even identify as white. It's ridiculous.
Trying to see it from their side, maybe white is the "default" race in their eyes. Idk shit confused me
The whole comment chain on the post was referring to whites, man.
My ex used to identify as an attack heli does this count to vote
I sexually Identify as John Cena. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of defending my WWE championship at WWE SUPERSLAM. People say to me that a person being John Cena is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, You Can't See Me. I'm having Vince McMahon inject me with Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect. From now on I want you guys to call me "Champ" and respect my right to Five Knuckle Shuffle and Never Give Up. If you can't accept me you're a cenaphobe and need to check your #1 Contendership. Thank you for being so understanding.
She must be very offensive.
Purge Time
I've been waiting for a massive purge... this will be fun.
Let em come... we can ban them by the hundreds if necessary. (like the old days)
Don't we have a back up site already?
Well that's not the question.
The worry is that sad, crying, triggered SJW's invade the Red Pill and start posting all kinds of junk.
If that happens we need to ban them... in a big purge.
Purge ----> Ban was the idea.
I can see that not making sense.
Oh I got the feeling that you meant a purge like the one of our beloved dear leader general Pao.
Well three years ago when the Red Pill had around 30k subscribers there were regular big purges where the moderaters would ban dozens of people all at once.
In the beginning the SJW's thought they could simply bark their bullshit at us and get us to cower to their intimidation.
That didn't happen and we fought them, then ruthlessly banned them from our sub. Eventually we arrived at a sort of truce where Red Pill posters never left our "turf" and they stopped invading our "turf".
So if they want the war again I'm ready to kick as and see "blood" in terms of massive bans in a purge of SJW types.
We will see if we get the war or not...
I'm ready to kick ass.
This is likely why I was banned from MGTOW
My guess is the MGTOW forum is sort of a Purple Pill place.
I don't go there however... so it's second hand information.
Look closely and you will find plenty of SJW's concern trolling or making excuses to manning the fuck up. The sub is infested on and off.
Prime time to invest into VPNs
Well I legitimately voted for Hillary so those two on twitter can fuck off with that generalization. My political views are in no way influenced by TRP
This shows a fundamental problem the left has right now. You can't change someone's opinion by suppressing or shaming them. It also continues to show how people vastly overestimate how reddit and other social media reflect reality. Yes I'm sure our little community of just under 174k subs had a major impact on things /s. Social media is largely made up of the younger generation who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary.
You make a very fair point. In fact kudos.
Which is why we have the second amendment. Keep your mouth shut, and if they come after you and your own then protect life and liberty. The global agenda will never stop me from living as I see fit as a free man.
Damn, that's a gold mine. Subhumans that have nothing in common with Western Culture try to understand the causes of the decline and Trumps win. Then, there's always cucks thirsty for that dirty coon pussy. Basically, leeches and losers.
I said it months ago, their whole hate against their welcoming hosts will turn against them, may God have mercy on them when Europeans will follow USA and wake the fuck up from the multicultural degeneracy, because Europeans won't.
You believe that Europe can turn things around?
The future of EU will be decided by the end of Trump's presidency. As of now, 3rd world immigrants living in EU have a higher birthrate than natives. Once natives will retire and there won't be any money left for social security, either civil war will break out OR a totalitarian state (EU army) will take over and living conditions will be 3rd world tier, or most likely both ( cloward-piven strategy ). Anyhow, there will be an inevitable Reich in the near future.
Very interesting links. I must check them out. Do you have more?
https://dissidentright.com/
&
You can check "r"/DarkEnlightenment for similar links.
Its so hard to keep my mouth shut right now, especially on social media. Bunch of sissies bitching because they didn't get their way for a change.
So far my attitude on there has been neutral. I know what I really believe, can't announce it to the world and lose a bunch of contacts though.
Think as you like. Behave like others.
If I weren't worried about having 50% of my friends cut me from their lives, I would be going on such a gloat rampage right now. All these people who mocked, silenced, bullied, and belittled those like me who didn't subscribe to their personal belief systems are now having their intolerance blow up in their faces. I really want to shove that down their throats and make them eat it.
But, OP is right. Better to keep your head down and smirk in private. MAGA 👌🏻
You can gloat twice for good measure - simply argue that the fact that the DNC rigged the elections in favor of Hillary and the media pretending as if nothing happened, i.e. both parties showing democracy the finger, would be enough to be against them.
They don't speak the language of logic. They speak the language of emotions.
If you want to really change their minds you have to speak their language - "How could you vote for Clinton who laughed at a rapist of a 12-year-old getting off the hook? "
Of course, save your energy only for people you care about - the rest just provide of entertainment with their huge butthurt.
Even then, they will double down on their deeply held beliefs. You cannot argue with people who do this. It is the reason that law #38 exists.
Better to stay humble and watch them make asses out of themselves. More entertaining. We did it. MAGA.
They don't sound like real friends if they'd cut you from their lives over a difference in politics. My God the Left is hypocritically intolerant, and they're too stupid and emotional to see it.
Nothing but virtue signalling for social brownie points and echo chambers for the left msm.
What this election has done is show me how many idiots I really don't want to be friends with. Just today I unfriended a Carl who was literally "YOU'RE A WOMAN HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT TRUMP" hysterical to a female friend. Of course, facebook is cancer etc.
All the kids have is their so-called facebook friends nowadays. Most people are lucky to have 1 or 2 REAL friends, but this generation wouldn't have shit when it's put to the test, lol a real test not disagreeing with an fucking election. Pussies.
I'm afraid to say what I think cause I might lose friends.... WEAK.
Dude.
You might want to reconsider your choice in friends.
90% of the time, most of these people are normal. But the internet has gotten people insanely riled up this election cycle.
Exactly. For me, it would be closer to 95% of my friends cutting me from their lives. I wonder if some of them already suspect me for not posting anything sad or whiny about the result on FB yet.
Sometimes I feel like the ones who are far lefties are poking and prodding at me to get me to say something anti-Trump. "Man, someone just left this MAGA flyer on my door, so annoying, right? Because you hate Trump. You do hate Trump, right?"
Post some conspiracy theory level shit (he rigged the elections with russian hackers) and see how many approve and congratulate you. Then spring the trap as in "Guys I was just joking and I thought it was obvious".
90% of blacks vote for Democrats anyways. It was 8 out of 10 of the remainder that voted for Obama.
If that's true you should just cut them anyway, they AREN'T real friends. More time for your REAL friends after.
The thing is, in other forms of government, when things reach this point civil uprisings happen. But in America a simple election with zero bloodshed is all you need to say FUCK YOU to all the idiots.
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Definitely. Chad wearing a MAGA hat will still get plenty of women wanting to fuck him.
Chateau Heartiste very recently released a piece on an SJW who "accidentally" fucked a Trump supporter, leading her to sever ties with the guy because the internal tension was too great to contend with.
whoops! dick slipped in! haha hate it when it does that
The end game is not pussy. It's money and social clout.... aka freedom.
You can't go against the grain when you are lacking in any area.
Well buying into some stupid social media argument with liberal extremists is pretty beta to begin with. It's like trying to talk red pill to a woman -- completely pointless.
What you mention has age constraints. Someone in their early to mid 20s might be able to get some tingles/props from going against the narrative.
However, anyone trying to climb the social and economic ladders is playing the long game and will not go against the narrative. Too much to lose.
I love announcing it to the world and losing contacts.
Losing contacts because I told the truth is inspiring and invigorating.
Of course I have been doing this for years so I have thousands of like minded individuals on my social media and very few who think differently, even though I encourage diversity of opinion and debate.
Polarizing makes the man according to the Models book.
It depends on your situation, contacts and there relations for some might be extremely important to there success and cant jeopardize their relations with an acquaintance.
They had their chance for a change with Obama and all that people managed was to divide the people! People now identify with "victim" status and no longer strive to survive and become the Victor of their own story.
It's so much easier to be a victim. It's about as beta as it gets.
If there's one reality that last night laid brutally bare, it's this:
You can easily surround yourself with media and people and pundits that parrot your views back at you, and you'll be very comfortable and get the warm and fuzzies every time you look at your Facebook feed.
But cruel, ugly reality has a way of kicking down the door and rearranging your shit. And if you're not prepared it can be extremely unsettling.
The people I know who are taking this election the hardest are the ones who circulate Huffington Post links like candy; post the latest SNL/John Oliver skits ridiculing Trump voters to their social feeds; and generally consume a diet of overwhelmingly one-sided information.
If only they had spent a little more time trying to understand and exercise compassion towards the average Trump voter—rather than burrowing into little silos—then I guarantee the night's result wouldn't be so earth-shattering.
As pragmatists we are best advised to just play along. I'm not interested in stirring up shit for no reason other than to get into fights. Waste of energy.
All of this is, of course, RP 101: Accepting reality as it is, not as you want it to be. But last night was just such a phenomenal and powerful exposition of this idea.
Who is the average trump voter, and can the people you are talking about relate to them? The trump voters in my family have tended to be openly racist, and revel in pushing that fact in other peoples faces. I am not unkind to them, despite my growing frustration that these people are related to me, and so clearly proud of their ignorance, and bigotry. Please explain to me how I am to exercise compassion for people that so clearly hate.
Most people i know that voted for Hillary are misandrists and rub it in peoples faces. See it's easy to label the voters as something but it's never the caricature that's real. Most Trump supporters stayed quiet
Maybe you could describe how most people you know hate men. The Trump voters I know in person are two of my cousins, and I regularly hear the racist stuff they say, and the arguments they pick with people because of their abrasive views.
The thing is it doesn't really matter. This is all anecdotal evidence. They're two out of all the Trump voters, too small of a sample to draw the conclusion that most of Trump voters are like them.
Maybe you could describe how most of your family are openly racist.
All Americans are racist, but to different degrees.
I met many Trump supporters. Tend to be more working class.
The Hillary supporters are all UMC.
Weird isn't it. The poor support the rich, the almost rich support the poor.
But it makes sense too. UMC is the most indoctrinated into the system as they have the most power out of the non upper class, and the most benefits of being in the system. By helping the poor, they feel good and right.
I'm a college educated black male who voted for Trump.
Yo, you got any of them rare Pepe's? ;)
Not so weird. The poor are easy targets. They typically lack the education of the middle class, and are easily distractable. Rhetoric works on them: "Change We Can believe in", "Make America Great Again". They follow who "feels" right. The middle class have some education. They have just a little bit to lose. The upper class puts the burden of paying for the system on them, because they have more resources to control & bamboozle the poor with issues like abortion or that vegetable woman and life support from a few years back. The poor, who don't pay anything anyway, are perpetually used as pawns in this struggle between the middle and upper class against the other to try and shirk paying for the system.
You're absolutely right. But I would add that the UMC is equally (or arguably even more) susceptible to rhetoric that "feels" right. Both sides are so easily manipulated, and the democrats major failing this time was not nominating someone who could fully harness the feels of the entire UMC to a great enough extent.
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Both follow what feels right. What feels more right to them is different, direct help to themselves vs helping the needy.
Yup, and the UC will be as ruthless as possible to keep their resources and power.
I was sitting on a park bench in the sun a short time ago and an older man walked by and I said something like:
"Hey, pretty wild election huh?"
...he agreed and I started talking about all the things about what is happening and I could see he was just burnt out on it.
Many older folks know things are bad, but have no fight in them at all. It's like they resigned from caring long ago and in a subtle way "sold out" to it.
You will find those who are younger, but awakened by the Manosphere to be feeling good today... but older people are exhausted and the Feminists are having a mental breakdown.
Just wait awhile.
The test will come over time.
We can celebrate here, but hold that "victory spike" to yourself.
Fuckin rite. As soon as I read the election results I was thrilled. A nice big fuck you to the pussy pass.
My female teacher came into class looking like she just got divorced the night before.
I'm seeing my younger friends reporting that many of their classes have been cancelled. That's funny. I remember when I was in school through both of Obama's elections. As a conservative, I was bummed about that, but I never needed a fucking cry-break.
I'm a Web developer on a college campus. Safe spaces were set up on campus today for students "as a result of the elections and a form of support". How fucking fragile do you have to be...?
Just that alone demonstrates everything that is wrong with the world today. Adults being coddled like children.
The best part is we have an intern who happens to be a Muslim woman (hijab and all, I shit you not), and she literally laughed out loud when the email announcement came through today. If the poster child for your target demographic is laughing at you, you may want to lighten up a bit.
This is where you are incorrect.
I was midway through my undergrad studies in '04 when Bush got re-elected, and sure the general ambiance had a somber tone to it, but nothing even remotely close to featuring a designated spot on campus providing warm blankets and gooey cookies to console the tender broken-hearted.
Or making exams optional. We really have become a pussified society.
I for one am happy
I look to the pussies in safe spaces and think
"This my competition, lol too easy"
Gooey cookies? I'd show up and whine and dance a jig for some free hot gooey cookies.
My father, a lifelong conservative, was actually quite interested in having Obama take office.
He wanted to see just how fucking bad one man could screw the country up within 8 years.
I have to say, your father should have looked at the aftermath of the Bush presidency. Obama for the most part, at least imo was a very sensible president and led the country well for what he was given i.e. the state of the country and the republican congress. Not sad about Hillary's loss and I am interested in what Trump has to offer, hopefully it's not Bush 2.0 dumbfuckery, but it's ultra left wing level smugness to wager just how bad one man could screw the country up before he has taken office.
Oh, no, we know everyone after Reagan (and arguable Reagan himself) was absolute garbage. Bush should hang. We were just interested to see what kind of buttfuckery Odumbo would get up to.
And I doubt Trump'll be a typical neocon. His VP has no known connection to any of the typical smokey-backroom groups like Newt and others have. So unless he gets his cabinet flooded with Neocons, we might actually, hell, probably see some amazing shit come out of this administration.
As an aside,
If it wasn't for him, we would have won Afghanistan. He banned U.S. servicemen from burning poppy fields. Poppy = Heroin, which is the Taliban's main source of income. They also provide majority of the world's heroin. So if Odumdo hadn't of done that, we'd have out attrition'd the towelheads.
I was out riding my bike and a girl was sitting on her porch just crying.
The "Triggly Puff" worldview is collapsing.
The spoiled child will be forced to wake up... finally.
or not
they might doubledown
They will that's why we have to stay woke through mid terms to maintain a favorable balance in Congress
Go check all the msm. Are they having a moment of self reflection and checking for inconsistencies in their beliefs? Fuck no. They are writing hamster articles as fast as possible. Same thing on FB.
The "Legacy Media" is dying.
No one watches... no one believes... no one cares.
Let them blabber away, who gives a shit?
I know we're on TRP, but there are bigger issues in the country than the pussy pass. Have whatever opinion you want on them, but if the pussy pass is the highlight of this election for you, I don't know what to say.
I'm one of those men who want to watch the world burn. Like you said, we are on TRP.
EDIT: Geez a man can't talk about how he really feels in a place well known to be a place where a man can talk about how he really feels.
I'm sorry was my comment not progressive enough for you?
I don't think it's that your comment wasn't progressive, but it came off uneducated or apathetic. I don't mean any disrespect by that. I understand that men's rights issues are often swept under the rug, and, especially on TRP, we hope to avoid that reality. My comment was more to the point that, objectively, our country is facing bigger issues than men's rights/pussy pass. Also, there are probably a lot of successful people on this sub that don't wish to elect a president to "watch the world burn."
I'm not all too concerned with what other people want.
I don't give a damn about the planet because me personally does not like the human race. Nor do I believe we deserve to thrive. We are destructive and disgusting.
Dark I know, but there are people out there like. It's a bitter pill in itself.
Emphasizing this. At work female coworkers talking about the whole thing, and even with the slightest implication from me that Hillary didn't lose only because she is a woman they turned on me, damn near instantly.
Let them get their good cry.
Then later start a fresh new conversation with the new reality of a president who speaks the truth.
After so much corruption it's going to be really weird.
My dad of 65 years old opted out of the election. It was as if to say "Fuck it, I'm on my way out. It's your problem now."
I'm 44 not old, but not a spring chicken either. I voted with my balls.
One local bar owner has been catering to the SJW crowd in order to "go with the flow" and now that Trump won he looks likes a complete sellout.
That's the thing... once you cave into the pressure it's hard to reverse that. Everyone knows you didn't have the balls to defy it.
As usual with the ways of nature the redpill trumps the blue pill.
Don't even know the difference between a RP president and a BP one. Trump has no frame, is retardly impulsive, and is likely to start a trade war with China. The Ra! Ra! Masculinity mindset here in spite of reality is akin to BP delusion.
Eh, no one is 100% RP. I'd never say he is a role model, but he certainly carries some respectable traits that all other candidates lacked. He pulled every competitor into his frame with the exception of Hillary, who knew just which buttons to push.
The man fucking went to lot of rally and double down on the last months.
Hillary did not have a chance because she is the "sit back and let my minion" kind of politicians.
You were less engaged to the base, no amount of smear ads can beat a personal hand holding event.
Nobody is RP because nobody knows what RP is. It's a metaphor for a process, not an archetype of wholeness.
Fucking cirkle jerk. He's billions worth, have a model wife 20 years younger than he is, is President of the US and you try to convince anyone he's BP? GTFO.
Don't forget that he survived the mainstream media for 18 months of 24/7 bashing and will continue to be hated for years by the media. I turned on NPR hoping they would be giving Trump some credit. Nope. Same old shit, different day. If it were me i probably wouldn't have ran at all. Why deal with fake rape accounts?
He's Teflon. Nothing sticks on him. He defends his image by attacking his opponent. If that's not frame, I don't know what is.
With this kind of character, being wealthy and surrounded by pussies makes him probably more alpha than you, but these traits are just common with politicians, you want the other traits: frame.
He fucking owned it in the primaries, despite having 13 opponents. Later, he was against Hillary Clinton + all the networks and he still won. He played them all. I think he has frame.
How do any of those things make him RP?? Any rich guy who gets a 10 million dollar starting loan and constant bail outs from his father can become rich and get as many young model girl friend's as he wants, that doesn't make him RP. Look at Dan Bilzerian who does jack shit with his life and has beautiful women flocking to him. Money attracts women, its pretty simple. And Bilzerian is in no way RP, he constantly responds to hate comments on his facebook page by saying how many women he has sex with like its the only thing that matters in this world. You clearly do not know what being an RP man even means.
Despite having an audience of a few hundred million people he has the balls to actually say what's on his mind, right or wrong. Whether you agree with him or not he's a lot more alpha than probably >50% of this sub.
He's succeed and failed in business, yet stays motivated. Also seems pretty rp to me.
While he may not have the best frame he's probably one of the most alpha politicians we've seen in recent years. I think maybe you should explain why he's blue pill....
You sound like a Bernout victim. I'm sorry that you lost and the Clinton Narrative Network made you cry, but you're completely off here on Trump. Money attracts women and people, correct. It's in the TRP 101. He's single-handedly taken out two of the world's most influential political families: Bush and Clinton. He's a master persuader. He hasn't gotten to the FUCKING WHITE HOUSE without being alpha as fucking fuck. Just because you've fallen for the corrupt MSM's lies about him, doesn't mean he's not a red pilled motherfucker.
The horror. A trade war with an undemocratic country that uses slaves to manufacture shit quality products that are exported over to countries controlled by corrupt politicians in where honest hard working citizens suffered directly from the deal between said undemocratic Human Exploiting Countries and Globalist Entities that controlled said corrupt politicians.
The masculinity mindset is putting yourself, and your family first.. you know, like Trump's message: America First.
I won't even list the RP traits Trump has, it's enough to say: HE WON. Being RP = being a fighter and a winner
That may be true, but his plan of creating a 35% tariff on imports is only going to impede trade, increase the prices of products for the average consumer in America, and reduce the buying power of the American dollar immensely. People just want their cake and to eat it too without understanding the consequences of such actions.
If those products will be made in USA, then the money used to buy them will go back to the buyer. People will have their cake (job and salary) and eat it too (product)
this is correct. Free trade has just allowed management to bypass the middle class workers and pocket the cost savings of producing outside of the US.
Why is it that American cars are made in places that are not America? A Toyota is more American than a Ford... How is it that our own products are not made in our own country? We need to keep the money here and send shit out more than bring it in.
And reducing demand for Chinese products does what to China?
Think about it.
Stop crying the reality hete is that Trump WON, and actually standing up to China's aggressive market is not bad.
Would improve the quality of cheaper items.
Better than a real war with Russia.
I agree, he's not RP, he's a natural alpha, which can be dangerous, we will find out soon enough.
He's doing what he fucking wants. How much more rp does it get.
We need a trade war with China if you haven't noticed.
This is correct. The way some TRP members put Trump on a pedestal is pretty pathetic. I can't believe grown up self-proclaimed TRP men actually voted for him because "haha fuck women, right". This is all too retarded.
There was a druid grandma, a woman who worships moloch and spirit cooks in her free time and trump. Decisions decisions.
Clinton would have sold her back yard to China if they gave the Clinton foundation enough money...
Oh I've been aware, before going to class this morning I told myself "stay quiet at all costs". Most people aren't meant to be smart and don't know how to think. That's why even in the animal kingdom most of the apes never make it to the top. They live the rest of their lives never reaching their potential.. Don't sacrifice yourself trying to play hero and wake others up it isn't worth it. Blue pullers just like everyone else have their role to play.
Same here, I had to present something in class and was practicing with my group before class. All HB5-6 Feminists.
I quote:
Fuck yeah.
I think it would have been better to just remain silent on the issue rather than tell the women what they want to hear. It isn't a tragedy. Lead the women, don't pander to them.
Oh no I didn't say anything, I was just quoting what they said. My only comment was: "Yeah I was surprised with the results".
My boss asked me about to results expecting me to jerk Trump off in front of him, when I hit him with "yeah I must admit I was absolutely shocked. Didn't think he would pull it off," the conversation ended quickly. People just wanna argue
I think you have stumbled upon a rather troubling mindset friend -- giving up on blue pillers is leaving them to a life of naivety, abuse, and imprisonment (mostly if they are men). You are effectively arguing for a caste system of merit. And while I agree that not all people are equal in practice (equal in law at the very least) and that meritocracy is imperative, that doesn't mean we should abandon lessers to a life of misery. A good king strives to help everyone. A good man is aware of his position but holds no pride in it - a truly good king does not consider himself one. Instead, he considers himself a public servant. So, if redpillers, as is often the case, live in a superior fashion, it is our moral obligation to continue to try to help others to improve themselves as well.
I want you to think very carefully about what this means.
Hint: it's an oxymoron.
I help my family and friends. I'm not go out of my way to use my precious time to change opinions to people who don't want to change. Not to mention that challenging beliefs in my social circle will result in its shrinking, and so my opportunities. So really, I have to jeopardize something that I have for the chance of some Joe Moe or feminazi LGTBTBBQ change their mind, a thing that ultimately gives me ZERO benefit? You're out of your mind.
I'm fine with helping redpillers who are willing to admit ignorance by giving them an advice or 2 (not rules or laws, advice) but that's it.
If they won't listen, they won't listen. But I would've thought that redpill philosophy would encourage one to be alpha and never deny their beliefs, especially when theres a chance sharing those beliefs might help someone
The alpha cares about his tribe first and foremost: His family, his friends, his close relatives.
Not everyone is part of my tribe.
Can't you add people to your tribe? I try to expand my social circle at all times
Depends on if you can afford hurting your reputation or not.
Maybe this is my very faint autism, but I never cared much about reputation. I do care about morality tho
Red Pill is amoral. And blue pillers have to come to terms with it on their own. Help someone out who's trying to leave his blue pill ways behind? sure. Help out the average dude who cant even handle a real thought about mortality much less deep social and psychological habits and interactions? You'll be laughed out of rooms by these idiots
Did you mean to say mortality or morality (sorry, nitpicks first :))? And all this redpill being amoral stuff - thats mainly a byproduct of bitterness. Most redpillers were once the most crushed of betas. It doesn't surprise me that they hold that against humanity and God - but that doesn't make it right, certainly not against God. Redpillers often discuss having goals, a purpose - and yet, they wind up leading very hedonistic, meaningless lives. The key issue here is that redpillers, just like much of todays society, are morally relativistic. there is no such thing as "amoral." There is an objective Truth in life (specifically, Jesus Christ), and with that comes definitive rules of morality. You are not justified to do whatever to win the game, get the girl, whatever. And you have a duty to proclaim the Truth at all times, and to help others at all times. I've been laughed out of rooms before on many subjects, and now I expect you will laugh me out of this virtual room for bringing up religion. But, I kindly ask that you don't. Either way, it won't stop me. I will continue to try to save everyone's souls and continue to try to improve everyone's quality of life through redpilling. Question is, can you swallow the bitter truth that you've been bluepilled out of salvation and into meaningless life, or will you just get angry at me now?
There is amoral, holding yourself to no morality. Women in essence are all amoral.
Moral relativism is seeing each morality as valid to its own society.
But either way, I'm curious. What purpose and meaning would your God have for me?
Good for you for trying to save people. It's what a True Christian should do. Did I just answer my question? Ha
Thanks for not attacking me :). To answer your question: everyone has a purpose. There's no such thing as luck or chance. Nothing is random. Now, that doesn't mean little things necessarily have huge importance. You, me, everyone who ever lived, was made with a purpose. This is a good purpose. There are things God wants us to do in our lives. Unfortunately, as sinners... we really mess up. A lot. Thats where Jesus Christ, God's son comes in. Essentially, God is perfectly loving and perfectly just. So, when humanity sinned, God, being perfectly just, must enact justice. But instead of leaving us to our punishment, He gave us an out: His son, Jesus Christ, suffered in our stead. If we believe in him and repent of our sins, we are washed clean with His blood. Now, there's a lot more I could and will go into if you are interested, but you can also read the Bible. Back to purpose: God created us to serve, worship, and glorify Him. As I pointed out earlier, we believe in a definitive Truth: Jesus Christ. So, we do not believe in moral relativism: something is either good or evil. We serve God by trying to save other peoples' souls and by doing His will. Now, we fail -- all the time. If it wasn't for Christ's sacrifice, we would be damned. Fortunately, God loved us so much as to bless us with salvation by suffering for us.
So, in regards to God's purpose and meaning for you: He wants to save you because He loves you and all people. We are His children. So first, he wants you to come to believe in His son and repent of your sins. From there, pray without ceasing and spread the Gospel (which literally means "the Good News," news of salvation). Accept the Holy Spirit and let it guide you. I do not know what God wants you specifically to do. What I do know is that He made everyone unique - and everyone has a unique purpose. You want to know your specific purpose? Ask God.
mortality. Try to talk about the world continuing to spin after you die with your average person and theyll never talk to you again. That hamster wants to stay in the wheel man (men and women).
I dont think religion and red pill are that far apart honestly. The Bible instructs men to love their wives, but only instructs wives to submit and respect their husbands. (Ephesians 5:22-33) Sounds like AWALT to me. The difference is that the Bible tried to eliminate hypergamy, whereas TRP attempts to eliminate beta male thinking. We cant reach women like the church could in those times, we can only improve ourselves.
Im not saying dont help people. I think inspiring people to help those less fortunate is important to society, whether it be religious help, financial help, emotional help, etc. But in order to do that you have to be the best that you can be. And the person has to be willing to accept help. 99% of Blue pilled men arent willing to accept help (I know I wasnt in high school).
This sub has a high amount of disdain and hate and cynicism, but this sub is about recovery and improvement, not a shining example of TRP in action. You dont judge an alcohol abuse program by the people still mid program, if they were representative of the end result they wouldnt be there.
I found David DeAngelo long before I found this sub, and i find myself striving more towards his version of self improvement than TRP, although they are very similar.
Thank you for the very respectful response. I agree that Christianity and red pill are not far apart. In fact, as someone who believes in the objective Truth (Jesus Christ), its unsurprising that I like much of redpilling, which is an attempt at realizing what is really true. I was just thinking that maybe I should start my own post about Christianity and redpilling where I can answer questions in greater depth and on a greater variety of focuses.
You don't sacrifice yourself , take risks for people who would actively destroy you. You use them and/or destroy them.
Those who seek help, and help themselves you lead to enlightenment.
Most people are neither seeking to destroy you or get your help. Most people are apathetic. What about them?
Honestly haven't thought about the neutral. I guess live n let live in that case.
But if it is no burden on you to reach out to the apathetic, why not reach out to them?
while I agree not everyone is willing to hear and listen to the truth and as im sure you know some people have a better chance of being saved than others.
Don't compare some of humans to apes.
It's an insult to the latter.
As a college educated/professional black man, my take is this: I can honestly understand the frustration from white men, especially from middle America. They think that the gov't doesn't give a shit about them anymore under Obama, trying to literally put them into second place. As a result, I can see why the term reverse discrimination is being thrown around. When they see something like "black lives matter," massive immigration at the expense of American taxpayers and everything else, that only solidifies the assumption whites have that blacks and other minorities are above whites. You're not alone in your frustration. For me, (and I'm not alone on this) Obama hasn't really done anything for American blacks as much as white America thinks. At least I don't see it. What, a health care system where you pay more money for shittier coverage?? That's the only thing I've seen come out of Obama in 8 years.
Obama's problem is that he's put so much attention on foreigners that he's forgotten about Americans. White, black, green, blue, I don't give a shit what you are. America needs to come first & what I give a shit about is making sure that America is taken care of first. That's why Trump won and that something that the dems & all these protesters in these cities right now will never understand.
For example, the start to solving "black lives matter" is criminal law reform across the board which of course, affects everyone theryby making it "all lives matter" which is the way it should be. No one should be singled out.
I haven't seen any bigotry from Trump. What I see is the media portraying him as a bigot in an effort to brainwash me into thinking the way they want me to think in an effort to help Hillary win. I voted for him and I'm optimistic that he'll actually put Americans first for a change.
Or, I'm wrong and he'll be an advocate for the super rich, completely fucking the middle class. We'll see but it's better than that bitch being in power.
Thank you for your comment.
Well said. I truly believe it'll be the former.
Meh – your credentials don't mean much considering the low bar set given by affirmative action. Although the other points you make are sound.
Yep Americanism not Globalism. The media portrays that as racist which makes no real sense. The millennials have the mindset of 14 year old Swedish chicks, tricked by the globalists into thinking open boarders is moral. Obama didn't do fucking shit for American Blacks. Everyone was expecting at least something. Other races did vote for Trump. He will be held accountable which will be a first.
Wrong way of thinking about it - you want to voice your opinions so that the crazies self select themselves out of your dating pool. Moreover, women will throw out all of their most cherished beliefs if they are desperate enough to land some alpha dick. Its unbelievable how many women I've plated and then later had to dump when I found out they were card carrying feminazis.
Until the crazies figure out how to blacklist from your chosen profession or business. Many have started "organizing". For what nothing good. I'm fairly insulated and even then OPSEC is my sop.
Considering how I refuse to hire women who post feminist nonsense on any of their social media feeds, I can understand where they come from.
the difference is - I'm valuable - they're not
Even so, if you have protesters harassing your customers, suppliers you are still screwed.
I get that Trump winning is good for men, and bad for feminists so I understand why many people here are on his side. I think something as complicated as an election has many more factors that need considering which led me to be extremely disappointed with the results. I had read all the policy points on our President Elect's web page, and I am really very concerned about them. I am a CPA, and his tax plans gives me shivers. I don't really know what is going to happen, but I am glad the feminists got a little reality check. I just hope a realty check isn't coming for all of us in the near future.
It's great for feminists. Feminists are miserable with power.
What about his tax plan gave you the shivers? Truly curious for your view.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/tax-plan/
He is giving the largest tax cut to the wealthy/corporations in history. Much greater than the Bush Tax Cuts. The Bush economic policy is what created such tremendous income inequality and concentration of wealth to begin with. You can see he is accomplishing that by changing of the brackets in the section "tax law changes". That he is also repealing the death tax, so people like him can pass billions of dollars to their children tax free.
That makes me nervous for many reasons:
The government needs that money. It pays for a lot of things. I have read estimates that these tax cuts will cost about 1 trillion dollars a year to the federal government.
There are a lot of Angry people that support "breaking the establishment" the conditions caused by the bush tax cut I mentioned above squeezing the shit out of their wallets. Now Trump's policies promote tax cuts that dwarf the bush era cuts. The very people who are Angry, are being duped in to accepting economic policy that will worsen the conditions further multiply their misery.
That doesn't sit well with me.
The only thing I can say that is good about the Trump Tax plan, is that he seems to be putting in provisions to help people with children. Above the line deductible child care expenses are pretty solid thing to do for working families.
All in all though, leaving working families scraps while the super rich get 99% of the benefit of this program isn't equitable, but unconscionable. Now if I was super rich I might have a different opinion. I make somewhere in the 140k range, and Trump is putting proportionally, the lions share of taxes on people like me. (surprise). I guess I think the tax code should kind of be like spider-man's value: that with great power comes great responsibility.
Now you pair these giant tax cuts, with these giant infrastructure plans he has and I just have to wonder, where the hell is the money going to come from?
If you disagree that's cool. But that's my thinking on things.
It added to it, but I'd hardly say it created it. The Federal Reserve system and having a debt based economy itself guarantees wealth inequality.
I don't see how we can break the establishment. People on average are not free thinkers and they look to the establishment's media for answers and opinions.
Leaving the poor scraps is how civilizations function. Keep them happy and distracted and sedated enough, and all is well.
No idea where the money will really come from. Trump says jobs and business revenue when businesses and corps and manufacturing come back to the USA, when they can't evade taxes. I will wait to see it before I believe it.
I'm not too concerned about our debt, as long as the economy and our military machine keep functioning, the debt is mostly irrelevant, and will never be paid off.
There will always be some degree of income inequality. I agree with you. In the last 20 years though, it has worsened tremendously, to the point that the country was geared up to elect either a socialist, or whatever Donald Trump is. The uniting theme there is kicking the establishment in the ass because things have gotten much much worse for the average American. That is because of stagnant wages and the bush tax cuts. We are continuing down that road.
The debt is not sustainable. You are basically saying that you can spend forever on your credit card, and as long as you keep lifting, and shooting at the target range, the debt wont matter. Guess what. Finance doesn't work that way.
What would taxing the rich more like we did in the 60s accomplish they will change much for the lives of the average American?
That won't make wages go up. Wages don't go up because the value of the position didn't go up much.
The problem is inflation of costs and the unending devaluation of money. The rich get richer through investments, their wealth keeps them ahead of the curve, and the non rich can never catch up without a giant inflow of funds, and worse the nonrich are mostly always falling more behind.
Bernie would have made people more dependent on the government which doesn't go against the establishment, and Trump is the establishment more so than not, billionaire and the ultra rich are the ones that run and control the country(especially through corps and influential organizations) than anyone else. They are the establishment.
Sure it does, when your banks are part of the establishment and own the Federal Reserve. When the debt becomes too high for them and the currency too devalued, the only choice will be to reset the debt.
But first, people will be living with little to nothing for a while before that would be considered.
if you scrap the trade agreements and lower the corporate tax rates, their is enough juice to go around for everyone of us here.
I dont understand why you think corporations are going to give money for everyone to go around. Corporations serve their owners. Unless you own lots of stock, you're not going to see the fruits of those profits unless you are an executive.
Some markets cannot be competitive with the corporate tax, shipping shit in will be an issue and people won't buy their shit if the prices rise, lowering their taxes makes it bearable to move back.
The only reason they got so rich so fast is because they stopped paying Americans to make the shit we buy and our incentive for it was the stuff was cheaper. They don't have to raise the price as much with less taxes and if they do, we could always go to the one that doesn't.
Him being non-pc is his only asset. Other than that he's an easily manipulated imbecile with fascist tendencies.
He admitted himself that he surrounds himself with people that are dumber than him.
These are huge red flags for president.
I'm really worried about the republic.
I'm liquidating my assets and waiting for the implosion.
I posted this on shit book in response to the SJW's destroying my feed. Thought it might apply here - No arguing or responding to bullshit, its a statement and it stands without comment.
Regarding 98% of my timeline on this website (yes thats probably you) - "Trump is the natural result of the lefts highly politically correct, anti-white, anti-male, and anti-american rhetoric. Turns out if you demonize the people you disagree with, paint them as racists and oppressors and tell them that any and all of their successes are a result of some unearned "privilege", they will create a counter-revolution. Progressives, Trump is the consequence of your actions, your rhetoric, and the identity politics you brought into American politics. You made your bed, now lie in it." Furthermore - "When all the non-racist, non-misogynist, non-homophobic, non-bigoted, everyday ordinary people get so sick of you calling them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots that they go out and vote against your candidate, do you: A. Reevaluate your personal conduct and strategy of convincing people to share your politics. OR B. Call them racists, misogynist, homophobes, bigots, and yell at them even more. According to my timelines most of you choose B, and thats why your candidate lost." I fully support Donald J. Trump. I will give him a fair, open, and honest chance to run this country until I pass judgement on him. Progressives asked the same when Obama was elected and I did just that - In fact I voted for him twice. No 'change' ever was accomplished. This country is more divided now than it ever was 8 years ago. Complete and utter epic failure. Lets Make America Great Again.
Shit bro, study some history.
Yea fuck that, fuck PC garbage. They don't like the election result? Want a war? We're good at that too...
White votes matter. Power is power.
Ya the reaction to the election results is social hamstering at its finest.
Except that theyre the ones that want to hand in all of their guns.
The power to destroy your own country? More power to you moron. More power to you.
I don't think you can just make claims like that. You have to try to educate people what the harm that is going to come is. The people in these threads are not your enemies, they just have slightly different life experiences then you.
Yea, more power to destroy this white nation that was made from the blood of whites.
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The feeling of laughing at some stupid millenials face because Hillary lost is way better than a date
The correct thing to do would have been to agree and say "It's a national tragedy" or whatever. Then spank her good in bed.
Social media arguments are never worth the trouble. Nothing good has ever resulted from a Facebook argument, other than as a form of entertainment.
However, I will be sporting my MAGA hat around campus. Today is special.
I've had a wonderful day bathing in the salty tears of SJWs though.
Waste of time on social media, yes. IRL... not so much if your frame is solid enough and you've cranked your IDGAF up to 10.
The thing about the social justice thing vs the views we hold, is that social justice works by shaming people and making them feel isolated. The Trump victory shows you're no longer alone. Do not continue to fall for their shit during the time when you are able to go on the offensive.
I like pointing out the fact that they lost because they downplayed and mocked the concerns of many, many folks.
The idea that you can label people you disagree with as stupid is what gave us this result. It turns out people take issue with that. The SJW ideology is bankrupt and this election was, in part, a referendum on it and the PC culture as a whole.
It's most definitely wishful thinking, but I hope this election hastens the death of this way of thinking. If it doesn't, we (the silent majority / RP) eagerly await round 2 in 2020. Bring it on. #MAGA
How does Trump getting voted in as President "ensue more pussy and better a male image"?
For the former, the matter is still incumbent on the Red Piller and the later would require a shift in the current popular culture outside of positive personal male figures per male.
My solution: Stopped participating in social media.
Problem solved!
No more urges.
Other people's opinion is none of my business.
Ok, so how did Trump win, OP? If you apply this rule, how could someone walk into an election and behave unlike everyone else and win?
What I'm trying to get at is: there are times to buck this trend. It's easy to argue how he won, but if this rule was so powerful, then he shouldn't have won.
We all know there are times to break with the current and do otherwise. Are there any laws of power that discuss that? Cus it looks like Trump, by breaking a law of power, is about to come up on a whole lot of power.
Are you kidding?? He sympathized 200% with the working class. Every rally he bemoaned the elites, the media, China, the world for laughing at us, blah blah blah. Whereas the Dems are always "vote for me it's good for you," trump ran a very empathical campaign to the working class, which swung Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania in his favor
No, I'm not kidding. If it were that easy to just show up and speak what the people want, third party candidates and a main party "outsider" would've worked before. Many have tried. Remember Ron Paul? So many of the average persons concerns, he was championing. But nobody took him the least bit seriously because he couldn't get the support of the RNC.
Politics is a big time insider game. People have wanted to run the empathic campaign you're talking about before, but wouldn't be able to get on the ticket if they did.
Trump talked about the things everyday people care about. But in the realm he was working in - politics - he did not follow Rule #38. Other people have tried to do the same thing and couldn't get in the door.
Law 38 isn't some hard law. None of them are.
And do you think he showed his true intentions? Highly doubtful.
He gave the public what they wanted to hear and the public ate it up. Fuck being good, HELP ME they cried, and so Trump said, I will deliver(hahahahahahaha).
Exactly. He gave almost no specifics. He just says things will be great, huge, amazing. He's one hell of a salesman.
My big thing about these laws is that we seldom discuss when and how there are exceptions. And then we have morons running around making us look bad because they misunderstand what we're talking about.
Liken the laws of power to the TRP laws. AWALT is not every woman but most women in general. Acting like others at work and school is a good rule. It makes your life easier. I think you should blend in, in general unless you have a good reason not to.
Other people weren't celebrity billionaires. Moral of the story is the way your message is received has as much to do with your relative status as it does your actual delivery.
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Because Trump obey a different law. Law #6 Court attention at all costs. Remember the laws of power are not a written in stone. You use them when you need them. President-elect Trump was already famous for being who he is when he started runing. If he would have behave like the rest of them he would never made past the primary.
So, what you're supposing is that the 38th law applies as long as you have little power? Once you have enough of it, you can start to act otherwise?
No. Every law except for maybe 48 depends on situations. Not the amount of power you have.
Of course you have to realize when a situation does not reward a particular rule.
I love living in a solid red state, nothing to hide, and I was with the winning team before anyone thought they had a chance, even here.
Attended one of his first rallies as a diversion and came away realizing this would come to be.
Everyone I've seen on Facebook who are upset about this are dumb bimbos, bluepillers, feminists, and pseudo-intellectual neckbeards. They have no logical argument as to why though when I've seen them debate people in their comments, only emotional shouting like "OH mah gawd, he's literally Hitler and a sexist, racist bigot!" There's no point in arguing against them, they're idiots.
I'm an independent, I have conservative views mixed in with liberal views but also just views of my own in general that I just believe to be basic common sense and human empathy. I voted Green Party simply because I think there needs to be a 3rd party represented at presidential debates and covered more in general. simply choosing between vanilla and chocolate is unacceptable, maybe I want strawberry, maybe I want cookie dough. But to be told it's either this or that, is just wrong, and that is the system as a whole.
My biggest issue with trump isn't the racist rhetoric (and there is plenty, but whether he means to say it or not, a lot of his supporters are choosing to misinterpret or interpret correctly his words to fit their racist, ignorant views, kind of like they do with the bible, because all those die hard christians don't even comprehend the bible, they are brainwashed). No, the biggest and most concerning issue with trump, and a lot of conservatives, is their outright denial in climate change. Maybe they don't read scientific studies, with the data to back it up, maybe they don't feel it because they are in states where the weather stays relatively the same all year round. I am from the Northeast, and I don't even need to read a study to know that climate change is a real and concerning thing. Last January and February, I was wearing short sleeves outside and felt warm, think about that for a second. Those are the coldest months in the Northeast and have been for decades upon decades, so why all of a sudden do people feel like its fall or spring in the middle of the winter? Climate change is very real, and businesses won't be around to prosper and people won't be around to work for those business, if we do not take care of our environment. Polar bear and bee populations are decreasing at alarming rates, would you just chalk that up to a coincidence? Quite frankly, I think if someone doesn't believe in climate change, it's because they are a fuckin moron or corrupt. It's that simple, there is no in between.
Another issue I have with trump, is that he will pander to corporations, that continue to rape and pillage the land and let the working people deal with the consequences. Towns across the nation are having their water supplies tainted because of drilling, water supplies being compromised because we want to provide bottled water. Food corporations mislabeling products on purpose to increase their profits. Just look into the food you are eating, where you are getting your chicken or beef from, it's disgusting how these animals live in their own feces, are given unnatural hormones to grow faster, and then we eat these things and wonder why cancer and heart disease increase every year. trump will not stop this, actually, he will promote it.
Why is the private prison system even a thing? why are prisons making a profit? this doesn't seem concerning or shady to you? trump will not stop this either, hillary wouldn't either, but why are we profiting off of people's mistakes when we are supposed to be rehabilitating them. Why are taxpayers footing the $30-50k/year (give or take) to house an inmate, how infuriating is it when you find out that inmate, who costed taxpayers $200k for their prison sentence, was in jail for doing drugs. That person wasn't a criminal, they were just someone that wanted to get high, but we will surely turn that person into a criminal by putting him in with rapists and murderers, and leaving him to fend for himself. trump would only promote this system with his talk of how "stop and frisk" was so great. fuck outta here.
So if you are arguing with a "libtard" and they call you an ignorant moron, maybe it's because you refuse to believe something that is so obvious. At this stage, saying that that climate change doesn't exist is like saying slavery was never a thing, or that the holocaust never happened.
EDIT: I think a good portion of this also applies to democratic candidates as well.
What are you even talking about, I haven't said shit about climate change which mind you is something that's been going on since earth even became a planet to begin with. Ever heard about the green house effect? My country (Sweden) was way warmer during the viking ages than it is now, and yes last November I could walk around wearing just a thin long-sleeved shirt, however this November I have to wear layers and layers of clothes. And I never said that drugs are a good reason to arrest someone either, if someone wants to hit a blunt then that's simply their decision to do something with their own bodies, it shouldn't be illegal, just like paying someone to fuck you shouldn't be illegal I'm a conservative but a pretty liberal one if you would compare me to the hardline deep south retards, and if I was an American I would have voted Rand Paul during the candidacy, at the beginning at least, during the actual presidential election I have no clue. Also when people say libtards then very rarely are they talking about traditional liberalists, they are talking about the illogical SJW tumblr freaks.
The culling of friends must happen to evolve your social circle.
This makes no sense. If we apply this "law" to the recent election, saying things on social media in favor of trump would be going WITH the grain, not against it. On Nov 8th, we found out how the majority of Americans really feel. It just appears you are going against the grain because most liberals happen to be social media whores. Now, if we are talking specific TRP ideas, yeah I would keep that on the downlow, because they are still pretty unorthodox even for the avg trump voter.
One of the many incredible things Trump has proven in his victory in this election is that the laws of power are overrated at best, bullshit at worst. I have expressed unpopular opinions multiple times and almost always experienced an increase in SMV. Have some balls and stand for what you believe in.
I was gonna write some corrections on some common bad arguments against Trump but then I was like "...what's the fucking point?"
It's like they TRY to switch off their brains when attacking Trump.
Idk, people freaked out about Obama. I mean his best friend growing up was bill ayres, a wanted FBI terrorist. His pastor also said goddamm America. He shouldn't have qualified for top secret security clearance. Neither should Hillary. But if I point this out I'm a racist misogynist pig that hates black people and repeats to many words and insults.
On the other hand Regan ran on repealing the department of education, and was slandered as a crazy war hawk. Nothing seemed to happen. Nothing seems to happen. Obama care won't be repealed and replaced. Term limits aren't happening, and the tax code isn't going to be reformed. Food stamps aren't going away. Disability is here to stay.
So yeah as much as I want to point and laugh at liberals, I just don't want the drama. Drama is women's work. I'll just focus on myself and quietly laugh at the hypocrisy of liberals. And enjoy some whiskey. For me.
I thought they promised Obama care would be repealed and replaced on day 1. You cant just ignore statements like that... it is the cornerstone of all republican policy, and ambition for the last 8 years... If you are benefiting from Obama care... well... you wont be for long.
You need to try harder at sarcasm sir
Trump changes his stance all the time. You're not even going to be able to count the number of campaign promises he breaks before his first term is over.
Benefitting from 200% premium hikes you mean. It is pretty clearly a road to "Hillarycare" - aka single-payer.
Fucking nailed it brother. Gonna post a comment I made in another thread (OP deleted his account and post after not being worshipped by TRP) and hopefully it will help with this argument.
(AWALT) All Women Are Like That.
Follow her actions never her words.
She will never love you like your mother.
Men love women. Women love children. Children love puppies.
Is Killary your special unicorn. You really believe she is gonna make your life (a RP man?, I assume but am not certain) better?
Like I said, it doesn't matter what your choice was. What's done is done. I served my time under Obama. Now it's your turn. One of the greatest laws ever.
You can talk all you want, but I won, and America won. MAGA.
I can never understand this contradiction. On one hand, when the final choice is to your liking, America has won, but when the outcome is not to your favour, then you have:
I want to call this Solipsism, but that only applies to women, what would you call it?
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Buddy, don't make this about race; your post just became a stereotypical response when accused of racism by the proverbial SJW.
Word of advice: Letting people know your neighbours are blacks or the exact number of blacks that have been to your house will only paint you racist, don't dig yourself into that hole. Silence and Frame.
Not all black people know all white people, not all white people know Asian people, not all Asian people know Hispanic people...ad nauseum.
The trolls, RP is where we are supposed to converse, you can now judge me and manipulation of words is meh ... it makes you come off as passive-aggressive; stop that shit.
Note: I never brought up race, merely mentioned that your post implies you like this victorious candidate more than Obama—the previous electoral and victorious candidate.
Under the brotherhood of TRP, I say that lightly, do not betray yourself like that again:
ALWAYS MAINTAIN FRAME.
DON'T VOLUNTEER INFORMATION.
BACK TO WHAT I FAILED TO UNDERSTAND
The implicit way in which a victory for your favoured candidate—Trump—is regarded as a grand victory for America trumps me.
Whereupon a victory for a non-favoured candidate—Obama—is regarded as a personal trial, and I would venture to say it possible you regarded that a trial for America too.
Which has me wondering; why it is that a result favourable to you, is regarded as favourable to America?
Is it honestly that you feared/hated the idea of Clinton winning the election?
Are you in the Anger Phase, this threw me off?
Or are you eliciting a case similar to Solipsism, but of an exclusively male variant?
This latest post simply confuses matters:
1. Was Obama's victory not the victory of a man?
2. Is there a difference between Trump and Obama that qualifies one as a man and the other as a not-a-man?
3. Or is this another case of ingrained partisanship: Democratse vs. Republican...Man vs. Woman
5. Does my failing to agree with you simply by virtue of having a dick make me a troll? Do we not shit on hive mentality?
Does that clarify matters?
To finalise, understand, I am not American, do not particularly care for American politics outside of American Foreign Policy and am impartial to the outcome of these elections...
Instead I find it interesting how the same mannerisms often highlighted in this sub, as written by the so called gynocentric West, reads like your OP...that is paradoxical.
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No one is fighting, simply asking for a clarification; again no need for passive aggressive shit—fight me IRL.
The Anger Phase thing explains it I think.
Can you answer my first question, without being marred by the idea of this being a keyboard fight?
Meh. Stay low for a few days and rub it in their faces after they've accepted and moved on
Nah. I've been fully vocal about my views. Commenting on anti trump posts with facts whilst liberal cucks reply with silence as they haven't done the research. I've been removing people by the bucket load for their libtard views
What's done is done, the American people have spoken. My point is that it's not worth rubbing salt in their wounds right now, they are irrational and will lash out against you. It's not worth the energy.
I was unfriended by 5 leftist turds because I support Trump, fuck them, not even mad
The forums i read are all in a post-apocalyptic mode. There is so much negativity , it's astonishing.
The question is, however, The red pill is no longer an unconventional idea. Red pill ideas are now in the majority of people, so what will happen to "mainstream" discourse?
To apply law 38 means that you should behave like others.
Today that means to follow Trump supporters, the majority, and to shut up about the minority, the unpopular Hillary Clinton.
To hide your feelings about the election out of fear of rejection is cowardice.
The media has shown how politically incorrect they were and today it is no longer meaningful or wise to continue to fear "political correctness" of the minority.
If you are a Republican or Trump supporter, you should not fear.
If you are a Democrat or Clinton supporter, you might want to heed the 38th law and have a nice cup of shutthefuckup.
The lion does not concern itself with the opinions of sheep.
It is content to simply devour them.
Actually, you know what, ignore this post. Go and spout your political views like there's no tomorrow. You know why? Because that's how you learn the
hardbest way to always follow this rule.Politics is exactly how I learned to shut the fuck up when my views oppose many surrounding me. I loved to debate, not just to share my views, but to win arguments. And I was actually pretty good at it. But the problem is, then I started to find myself quite often in situations where the rules of debate and of basic respect no longer applied. Where I previously could expect to argue with people who would hear my side if I heard theirs, I started to face a lot more people who would just gang up on me and shame, mock, or insult me for holding such "unacceptable" views.
So I learned fast to shut up and spot those who didn't seem totally bought into the whole vitriolic circle jerk, then speak to them carefully and one on one on the issue. But seriously, this is something everyone should learn the reason why for themselves
then theres that other law about being better to be hated than ignored
The laws are situational. You can't afford to be hated if you have no power and no one wants to be you. Kind of like the law of using absence to create value, worthless if you're not going to be missed.
What if you don't care at all, and you just want to bathe in the angry tears?
Or claim neutrality and play devil's advocate. I live in the deep south and the Trump win is loved. It's about 90-10% in favor of Trump. The law firm I work at, as a college kid? LIBERAL. Only me and the office manager are conservatives. When the head guy spoke to me about politics, I simply smiled and nodded at his Pro Hillary bullshit. That's a potential reference in the future, why fuck that up? Never break Law 38 unless you have FUCK YOU MONEY.
They've been spewing their liberal horse shit at me for 16 months. You can bet your ass I'm going to gloat. And I'll be smug as fuck about it.
This whole thing has been a pain in my ass.
I cut news and TV out of my life some years ago, including the political bullshit.
It's slightly challenging once in a while when most folks somewhere want to talk about game of thrones or last night's ball game, but this is a whole nother level.
It's damn near 100% of people want to get into it over this particular election. Pain in the ass.
I understand what all of you are saying, but do you really think Trump is going to be the savior of us all? He's a clown and has no idea what he's doing, let's be honest. The reason he won is because many Americans are fed up with the status quo, however, Trump is not the one who will make anything better. He literally has no idea how to run a country. The only thing he ever says is "I'm gonna build a wall" and "I'm gonna make America and everything great again." That's all good and well, but where is his plan? HOW is he going to change anything? A 35% tariff on imports? Building a billion dollar wall? Impeding free trade? Do any of you really think those things are gonna work? It's cool to talk big, but talk is cheap. But I'm hopeful, we'll see what the future holds.
And Trump is not an RP man. He constantly resorts to insults and child like behavior to get his way. He cannot even be professional in a presidential debate. Constantly interrupting your opponent is not holding frame, it is the exact opposite. It shows that his frame is weak and that he cannot control himself just like a child. And since when has racism, sexual perversion, and bigotry become a part of red pill idealogy? I thought we were about supporting our fellow man, building each other up, not putting others down. It is shameful that so many of you blindly support this clown as if he's the second coming of Jesus. get your heads straight, you're all starting to remind of the blue pilled and feminist idiots which you go against so fervently.
hahahahahahaha
Yes, all the stuff Trump did obviously was wrong because he failed instead of succeeded. Right?
Or is it maybe your preconceptions about how to do things which are wrong?
What a dumb comment. Trump is RP because he played all the strings to win. He's RP because he win. His actions and mannerisms made him win. He held frame throughout it all and never gave in unless he was forced to out of self-preservation. His insults, and retorts were alpha as fuck. Interrupting his opponents dumb comments was alpha as fuck.
These are just your opinions – and one that is not president. Bottom line is one of us won against all odds, the other didn't – I think I'll take lessons from Trump who is a real alpha, has a wife who's 45 years old, banged lots of hot women, and lives a life far better than you or anyone else does.
You need help, badly. And an education.
Trump became President against all odds, you're a nobody. I think it's clear whose advice is worth listening to. The dude whose President and a billionaire, or the amateur weight lifter. Btw, I make more far money than you could ever imagine, and have more degrees than you do btw.
Yes, that's why you still have a hard time typing coherent sentences on reddit.
Also, if you had half a brain, you would have been able to gauge from looking through my posts that I am in fact an amateur boxer, not weight lifter. I'm sure you have so many degrees that you cannot even glean this fact from such a small number of posts. With those critical reading skills, I'd be surprised you even made it through middle school to be quite honest. Anyway, you are not worth my time, enjoy arguing with people on reddit which you seem to love to do so much with your time.
No, it's simply that you're not an important person. My time is valuable. Yours isn't. My critical reading skills make me $200K a year. What do yours give you? A bruised nose, and ego? Just quit while you're ahead. Adios, amigo.
Yep, he's a giant pussy and the republican party is a farce, it's a facejob for pulling capital up the pipe. People vote against their best interest all the goddamn time, and we all work for the man (even if you own your own companies).
I'd love to talk about this with people but of course there's no debate, just people screaming and crying about how Trump will nuke us all. There's never been more proof that elections are just as much about social-feels though, so that's currently a good reminder of how society works.
You'd be surprised how many Bernie supporters are okay with Trump's win.
the liberal friends fuming over me voting for the "racist candidate" since im hispanic. isn't that prejudice in itself ?
A simple observation I have made is, people tend to divide the world in 'Us' and 'Them'.
From herein, the group titled 'Us' is always painted as the victim, angelic group or 'good guys'.
When prejudiced statements like the one you highlight see the light of day, they are jot formed from reasoning founded on all available data, instead it is a case of the 'Us' group feeling betrayed by you not standing along side their beliefs.
Essentially, the question becomes:
"Are you with us, or against us?"
Group think beyond AWALT.
I live in NYC and I'm honestly afraid for my safety. I'm almost 100% sure I'd be severely beaten if I tried to wear anything Donald Trump and I'd be ostracized completely at my place of work for supporting him, if not outright fired... I'd lose the support of my team and it would effect me greatly.
People just don't get it. The people I knew at work IMMEDIATELY drew me into political conversation and called anyone who voted for Trump lost, racist, homophobic... there IS no discussion and I don't even care to have a discussion so I had to sit there and smile at their little quips and viewpoints. It's disgusting but I had to know and believe in that 38th law of power. I wish I could be more upfront but I need to live to fight another day... I make a lot of money at my job and I like living in the city and I'm not willing to give it up in the blind pursuit of speaking my mind and telling it like it is. I'm GRATEFUL that voting is an anonymous action and honestly the empathy of people around me who don't even consider some of the people they call friends or family or co workers voted for someone different from them, and they completely ostracized them.
Stop being a mangina.
You do not advertise your RP nature, why should you do the same with Trump?
Is it so difficult to say, "I know right." And keep it moving.
Oh my god. Stop being such fucking pussies and just say what you think.
You are not a fucking mideval prince. You are a regular person.
The idea that you are some super secret power broker because you pussy put of debate and argument is laughable
It's really just about not alienating people you are forced to work with.
Law 38 can go to hell man. It is not unconventional to say you are a Republican or a Conservative. To support Trump is a true sign of shitlord-über-super-Alpha-pack leader.
What's going to happen ? Stupid libtards and close-minded people cut you off...yeah....what were you going to do with them anyway ? And...chicks flock to you..they love men who stand their ground, regardless of whatever womenese I-am-so-shocked they gush. At worst...is she hates you she is more likely to fuck you...
You need to strike cognitive biases and bait and switch them into logical fallacies.. only works if you are being factual and they are half truthing, or moral high grounding you. Gets to a point where their little brains cant handle it anymore because they cant keep affirmimg their false world view.
You can't get into a wrestling contest with a pig without getting dirty.
I hold no qualms with addressing ill-conceived concerns. Cowardice nor stupidity will be allowed near me. Sure, I will be careful if my income and livelihood depended on it (it doesn't), but for now? I'm spreading logic, or attacking the stubborn defects that I come across.
Like we saw with Trump's behavior through out his campaign, timidity, not even disguised as a law, should be respected.
The way I explain to people that I'm "happy Trump won" Is simply by explaining that I'm a believe in capitalism. Hillary wants to make the country more Communist while Trump wants to make the country more Capitalist. All other issues are nil with either candidate because I simply believe in the governmental philosophy of one and not the other.
Or at least, that's the easiest way to explain it to liberals looking for a fight. They can't argue really
So much gold in this thread! Good to know others also sees things for the way they are.
For all the talk about Beta-sation and gynocentrisism and pussyhood; there seems to be a lot of people on here butthurt over words.
Did we forget about Frame, about not being made to jump through hoops and enter 'her' frame?
https://www.facebook.com/frontline/videos/10153859874131641/
Check out this video, Trump win truly reflects how he carried out the power dynamics to take his revenge.
In this Video you can see how Obama humiliated Trump and its Trump, who has the last laugh!
I think it's all about the when, where, and how. Personal conversations, one-on-one, etc are the methods to actually present different ideas. Using social media is worthless because there's no follow up and a barrier to connecting. Showing that you're a rational, normal human being that isn't the caricature discussed on TV is the way it's done.
I disagree with this.
Half the fucking reason we are surrounded by this libtard shit is because it's been tolerated.
Fuck their tears, all BS is getting called.
Isn't it funny how, if Clinton won, it would be expected and things would go on as normal. But since Trump won, it's not the "retarded redneck Trump supporters" causing riots and crying in the streets like babies, it's the "Liberal, intellectual new age ascended queens of equality" who are doing all the damage. Just like how they were the ones causing all the trouble at Trump rallies. Their attitude is like that of a spoilt child: We always get what we want and if you dare say no then we will scream and trash the house until you give us what we want.
And yet again, nobody does anything, because "they're grieving and they have a right to express that grief by smashing shop windows and stealing things", yet if Trump supporters were doing it they'd all be screaming "Just shoot those low class white trash scum and be done with it".
Just makes me wish that a wall could be built separating half of America, with each side running each half and then people would be free to live amongst their kin in peace. And fucking silence.
I've been saying this for years. America really is two separate countries, and it should just be divided. People can go freely from one nation to the other, but the laws and governments are different. I think we would see peace and even prosperity for both sides.
I find this funny, and its also proof of something most don't want to admit. 1 He was actually the peoples choice, the democrats were the ones that set the areas for people to vote for the only reason people lying about them voting for trump would affect the votes would be because it makes it impossible to properly rig the election if people dont tell you who they are going to vote for. 2 it shows that many many people world wide are idiots, I don't even live in America and I got fallout for not thinking trump is a rapist. I hope he is better for you Americans than what Hillary is. p.s. Why the actual fuck do you guys not have voter id laws, We have voter id laws and its Africa for goodness sake..
trump rarely behaved like others and look at what happened to him?
Not worth it engaging in bickering with the losing side.
We're about to go into a pro-growth era that we have not seen since the Reagan era. Many of us may never see this again in our lives. My advice - get your shit together and take advantage of the opportunity that is being put before you. If you are a hustler, you will become very wealthy over the next decade. If you instead focus on how unfair everything is, (eg, how the Chad's get all the chicks), then you will get what you deserve.
I already have a very successful business and am currently very comfortable. The last 24 hours I have done nothing but burn up the phone lines and examine all the new opportunities that are going to be laid before me. I am energized like I have not been in years, and Im going to capitalize on everything I can.
Once more, be your best selves gents. Thats the message, and use that to make yourself independent. Best of luck to you all.
I think this is a load of shit. Most of my social media friends are extremely left wing artists and I have stood my ground and gained many people's respect even if they disagree. I have lost a handful of connections and I have been attacked but I have maintained my frame and come out victorious. When you say nothing they are emboldened more and they can spew their bullshit without ever being challenged, you must fight in a democracy to keep your rights.
Some people insulted me after the election but most are now apologizing for what they said because I have no fucking fear and don't give a shit.
I have already backed away from FB and all I say in public is "I sure hope he becomes a great president!"
I am older, white, and yep, you guessed it...male! I can already feel the stank eye from women and POC out in public. Sorry folks...you lost. Do something meaningful with your life instead of blaming me for your problems.
I wonder, if the number of people that would cut ties with you over your support of Trump was truly that big, then Clinton should have won. I think the majority is actually "political incorrect" inside, but they are all applying law 38th.
I agree wholeheartedly expect for the fact that supporting Trump is just a political viewpoint. Literally one of the only ones in your country. Most people go Democrat or Republican, which means that it seems highly dictatorship-ish for people not to be able to voice their viewpoint.
Obviously this is situational, if you are in a job with mostly lefties and your boss is an active endorser of the Democrat praty then you should keep it down.
But I see no need to keep your excitement quiet infront people in your social life. If those people feel triggered then this is a good filter. They had no place in your life anyway.
There's always a big difference in beginning arguments and simply basking in the joy of victory. I've been partying since yesterday and just enjoying this by radiating positive energy with my mates. People have tried to start arguments and lash out and I just smile and ignore their attempts. They quickly stop.
This moment is about being happy, not engaging in conflict.
Maybe it's a bad thing, but I've never felt the need to argue with others unless it's going to get me something I want.
Maybe I'm just inherently deceitful but arguing with people much less intelligent than me about things that don't really matter seems stupid to me. What do I have to gain?
Does it make you guys feel better when you win an argument? If it does then you're doing something wrong.
They will bitch and moan about how I'm disrespecting minorities and LGBTQ communities while simultaneously burning the American flag on the land it was created and raised in. Disrespecting every person, living and dead, to have served this nation. Even if their only service is paying taxes.
I have to sit and watch it all play out with the understanding that they are just a bunch of children living in their fantasy world. A reality created where everybody gets along and loves one another unconditionally. Everybody is equal and treated as such.
They put their heart and soul into this impossible reality and thought Hillary was the precursor to their ultimate goal. Her loss destroyed their hope for a new world they so diligently put together in their minds thinking it was full proof. There is no way anybody would elect a BIGOT right? We win. We cant lose! Wrong. Rational people stood up and put him into office.
Notice how you see a shit ton of hate against him and not many sticking up for him/gloating or spreading Hillary hate. It's because we understand what they are.
For the first time in my adult life I can stand behind my leader and take pride in him. I have a legitimate representative to the rest of the world. A masculine man.
Oops.
In my defense I've been Trump shitposting for 18 months on social media. It would be MORE suspicious for me to not be consistent.
I was thinking about going to Berkeley ,but I decided not to go.The people there will lynch me if I show up.
Good call, it's usually a liberal shitshow. But today, I'm walking around campus with my head held high and have literally never felt smugger.
As a former Californian and proud Trump supporter, I respect you for standing firm but also am concerned for your safety
Man, did I ever need to read that. I've felt that way countless times, to the point of becoming anxious, fearful, and especially confused. Didn't know what was wrong or how to fix it. I really appreciate this post.
use sockpuppets
i won't have to buy salt for the next 4 years, noice
good advice .... you knw what .... for this situation ... BEST ADVICE ... 'nuff said. not going any further on it.
Oh boy, and i went today to class with my Trump T-shirt. I will have to keep low this week.
Is this really a sustainable strategy though, suppose that he wins again in 4years, and after that a trump light figure wins, do we just walk around pretending to fit in?
You got a link to these laws of powers? Is it on the sidebar to the right?
Edit: found it
This can't be upvoted enough
Very wise words. I've kept my excitement low key and refuse to argue with any cucks. There is no winning an argument.
Absolutely,
I've been making this mistake quite a bit, I had to make a long winded social media post to re affirm my allegiance to tolerance and progressivism. MAGA though. And in true aussie fashion I had some money riding on Trump to win.
That's exactly how Trump won despite the poll results.
People voted for Trump but when asked who they would vote they gave a different answer.
Isn't Trump the best possible evidence that this is not true? He was shamed from the outset for his views which went against the PC sentiment that prevails in the media, gave no fucks and had the balls to double down on his positions several times. He would not have accomplished what he did if he had followed your advice.
I still think he will lead us to ruin but I have to give some respect for the way he handled a media shit test of epic intensity and duration, actually turning it to his advantage.
Hillary would have continued the browning of America and made white Americans lose power. White Americans are not dumb, when it came time to vote they voted based on what recent polls they heard (constantly in the media about whites becoming a minority in 2040) and voted against it.
The first rule about race wars is ... you don't talk about race wars.
I couldn't agree more. the past two days I have seen the absolute worst in people come out on social media. So many times I have been absolutely horrified at the things being said and even done in many cases. But it is not worth it. Surrender them to the devil that possesses them.