[Part 1 of 2] 40 Classic Shit Tests, What They Mean, and How to Pass Them

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January 11, 2017

NOTE: This post is intended for Red Pill readers who have a complete understanding of what a shit test is and why women use them. If you do not have this complete understanding, read this first: The Shit Test Encyclopedia


DISCLAIMER: While the following examples may be useful, you must understand that the best way to pass a shit test is through your attitude. Regurgitating a memorized line is still failing the test if it’s not convincing. You pass a shit test through your attitude, tone, and delivery. One thing we know about women is that they can smell a poser from a mile away. If you respond to shit tests with robotic, memorized lines, I promise she will be able to tell. That being said, I believe there is still immense value in seeing concrete examples of how you can handle shit tests as well as understanding what women really mean when they use them. Hence, this post:


21 Shit Tests Used by Girls You're Trying to Lay


1 “We’re not having sex”

Translation: I’m considering having sex with you, as long as you don’t fuck it up. If you play your cards right, keep escalating and conquer my ASD/LMR, you’ll be getting your dick wet tonight.

Response: “Maybe you’re not, but I am” / “You’re right, you’ll have to wine and dine me first” / “Woah, you’re already thinking about sex with me? I’m not a slut” / “Yeah, sure” (smirk)


2 “Buy me a drink”

Translation: Are you a beta chump who I can use for a couple free drinks and then ignore?

Response: “No, but you can buy me one”


3 “I have a boyfriend”

Translation: Are you better than him?

Response: “Aww, you’re in love! When’s the wedding?” / “Nobody’s perfect” / “That’s okay, I don’t get jealous” / “Sorry, he’s not invited”


4 “Are you gay?”

Translation: Do you have a fragile ego or are you a rock who can’t be moved?

Response: “Yeah, I am. But I need a decoy girlfriend for my parents. That’s where you come in”


5 “I bet you say that to every girl”

Translation: You’re trying too hard to impress me. I can see through your games.

Response: “I bet you say that to every guy” / “Yep, and they all love it” / “I’ve never talked to a girl before”


6 “I don’t give out my phone number”

Translation: You haven’t impressed me and I’m not interested in you. But please continue to validate me and give me attention by trying even harder to get my number, further building up my ego.

Response: “Okay” [walk away and approach a different girl]


7 “Are you a player?

Translation: Do other women find you attractive?

Response: “At this point I’m more of a coach”


8 “I need to get to know you first”

Translation: If I sleep with you this quickly, you and other people will think I’m a slut. Plus, it gives you all the power. I will only sleep with you if you make me feel like I’m not a slut and having sex “just happened.”

Response: Deflect/ignore and continue to escalate later.


9 “I don’t hookup” / “I’m not that kind of girl”

Translation: I don’t want you or other people to think I’m a slut, but I’m always DTF for a high value man.

Response: “Yeah, sure” (ignore).


10 “You’re too old/young for me”

Translation: I don’t want to be judged or perceived negatively for the age difference between us. Assure me that it’s fine.

Response: “I don’t usually go for blondes/[her hair color either], but sometimes I make exceptions”


11 “You’re an asshole”

Translation: I know I’m not supposed to be attracted to guys who are mean to me, but you’re giving me tingles.

Response: “Yep, and you love it.”

Failed: “I’m sorry, I wasn’t trying to be mean”


12 “Do you have a girlfriend?”

Translation: Do other women find you desirable? Can you get laid?

Response: “Why, do you want an audition?” / “I guess another one wouldn’t hurt” / “Yes”


13 “Let’s just be friends”

Translation: Will you be my orbiter who I can use as an emotional tampon and an ATM?

Response: “I have enough friends” (never be her orbiter. Go find another girl).


14 “You’re too short for me”

Translation: I bet I can break your ego.

Response: “I knew I should have worn my heels”


15 “You look sad” / “Why are you upset?”

Translation: Are you a pathetic, loser beta?

Response: “It’s really hard being as attractive as I am”


16 “I don’t sleep with guys on the [1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc] date”

Translation: I’ve been pumped and dumped many times by guys who I slept with quickly, so my guard is up. But I’ll still fuck you if you’re high value enough.

Response: “Neither do I. Most girls don’t get a date”


17 “You’re not my type”

Translation: You’re not impressing me

Response: “You’re not my type either. Look, we have something in common”


18 “Give me your number instead”

Translation: I want to shut you up by making you think an exchange is happening, but in reality I’m never going to text you

Response: “Sorry, I don’t give out my number”


19 “Does that work on other girls?”

Translation: Do other girls think you’re attractive?

Response: “Only the hot ones”


20 “How much money do you make?”

Translation: Are you a beta bucks who I should make wait for sex so I can extract resources first?

Response: “I’m homeless” / “Enough” (NEVER give a real answer)


21 “I’m on my period”

Translation: I’m putting up LMR because I’m still not 100% sure if I should fuck you. [note: she may actually be on her period. But many times this is an LMR tactic, so be aware.)

Response: Say nothing, continue to escalate, and try again


Tomorrow I will release Part 2, which discusses 19 shit tests used by Plates, LTRs, and Wives.

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Title [Part 1 of 2] 40 Classic Shit Tests, What They Mean, and How to Pass Them
Author Popular-Culture
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Date 11 January 2017 10:03 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]Modredpillschool[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (12 children) | Copy

Alternative answers that I've personally used in real life:

“We’re not having sex”

  • Oh good, I was worried you were just using me for sex.
  • I'm going to hold you to that promise later.

“Buy me a drink”

  • Okay, I'll buy you one but you buy the first round.

(get them into your frame by making her comply, then make up silly excuses why you shouldn't buy the second round when you get to it. Frustrate her. Wait a second, I never got my drink from you.. unless, did you roofie me?)

“I have a boyfriend”

  • Me too. Let's keep this a secret from them.

“I bet you say that to every girl”

  • Only the good looking ones.
  • If it works, I plan to...

“You’re too old/young for me”

  • I'll make an exception, this time.

“You’re an asshole”

  • You're welcome.

“Give me your number instead”

  • I'll text it to you. (by the way, this line usually means her level of interest is pretty low. Still fun to crush the test)

“How much money do you make?”

  • It's not about the money, it's about the joy on people's faces when I take away their garbage.
  • An astronaut doesn't do it for the money.
  • I get paid in sex, so I'll tell you later tonight.

These were all good responses when I lived on the west coast. Southern girls don't play as much hard ball.

[–][deleted] 331 points332 points  (5 children) | Copy

At this point I'm more of a coach - lol

[–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Delivery of this line differentiates between a Bruce Wayne from a Melvin Albertson

[–]shootermcgvn6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Something tells me a Melvin could pull this off if owning the melvinness

[–]reezyreddits2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

i laughed out loud at this one too

[–]tino125154 points155 points  (16 children) | Copy

At this point I have learned to love shit tests. It's just an opportunity to display your humor and confidence and build rapport with the girl in question.

Some of these responses are pretty solid and I often find myself saying similar. Cocky/funny, AA and amused mastery are the way to go.

[–]FiftyWaysOfRape94 points95 points  (4 children) | Copy

At this point I have learned to love shit tests. 

We all should because a girl wouldn't shit test a guy unless she's interested.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c47 points48 points  (3 children) | Copy

It is a great irony that many men think it's bad when a woman is being dramatic or shit-testing them. That's just how women are, lads. How the world works. Like rain falling or the tides rolling in and out.

Letting it affect you emotionally is like being upset with nature because it is inconvenient for you.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's like women banter. We love banter so let's just love shit tests too.

[–]Blinnking45 points46 points  (7 children) | Copy

Agreed... as long as you're confident, sarcastic and have solid eye contact you can say almost anything. When I first put this into play, went out on a date and held frame the whole night and dropped the ball one time with a beta-ish response. But by that point it didn't matter, she thought my response was a joke lol.

It's still odd when a buddy's girlfriend tests me though... I purposefully don't respond to them the right way.

[–]xennore points points [recovered] | Copy

Lol ive actually started responding to shit tests in a beta way on purpose but with with sarcasm and she knows im fucking with her and she hits me in arm so much because of it.

[–]Blinnking25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a great call!

  1. You own her tests
  2. It gives the added benefit in the sense that if you do slip up, she'll never be able to tell

[–]tino12512 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh i do the same. The most fucking ridiculous, over-the-top shit, said with a cocky grin are the best. The number of times I've told girls I've just met "God, I can't wait to marry you!" with a shit-eating grin, when they've done or said something I approve of is too many to count. They always eat it up.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The grin while saying beta sappy shit is the tell.

He gets it she thinks.....

[–]AlwaysFlank2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's still odd when a buddy's girlfriend tests me though

Yeah how are you supposed to respond to this? Friend's gf asked me if I've been dating around and it caught me off guard (learned a great lesson about AWALT though, won't be caught off guard again) so I just said no

[–]Blinnking1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy is one of my oldest and best friends, so I just build him up as much as possible and break eye contact with her often. She still throws an occasional test though, so I just keep deferring to him. It's kinda weird, but not much else I can think of

[–]phantomlordd23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are absolutely right. After you pass a couple of her shit tests, you can feel she letting her guard down. That's the perfect moment to escalate physically and to use a more insinuating language.

[–]bowie74715 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she tests you, it means she's considering fucking you.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88108 points109 points  (5 children) | Copy

It really is all about delivery

When theatres audition actors for roles they are all reading from the same script. Yet only the best actor will get the part, even though they all read the same lines to the director.

This post hands you the script, its your job to make sure its delivered properly.

Delivery is about tone, volume, cadence, posture, confidence, eye contact, body language, facial expressions, and speed.

[–]Popular-Culture points points [recovered] | Copy

Excellent analogy. At the risk of sparking a feud in the comments, this is why PUA ultimately fails. When Billy the Beta recites his memorized line to a girl at the bar, she still laughs at him because she can see right through his games.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat71 points72 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'll bite.

"PUA" gets a lot of unwarranted bad rep. It pains me to see you, a man with an obvious deep understanding of Game principles, participating in that witch hunt and unfortunately perpetuating it by convincing newbies who will then miss out on the opportunity to learn awesome Game material.

But then I am not surprised. You're part of what I call the Insanity of Game Instruction. It's a really weird state of affairs that everyone new in the business of seduction:

  1. Teaches theory on intersexual dynamics;

  2. Gives some lines as illustrations;

  3. Insists that the most important is body-language/inner-game/attitude/delivery/congruence so it's necessary to practice a lot and it's best to come up with your own material as soon as possible; and

  4. Criticizes all other teachers that came before as being big "failures" because they only "focused on memorized lines".

A Game newbie will always use the lines provided (he's too new to come up with his own yet, plus often those lines are just the best) and fuck it up prodigiously because of his bad inner game and delivery. It's normal and it's expected of him to improve over time. To follow the acting analogy, a wanna-be-actor will have a shitty delivery at the beginning of his career and therefore appears as a bad actor. But you wouldn't use your observation that teenagers in their first year at the high school acting club are bad actors as evidence that theater actors "ultimately fail", wouldn't you?

Yet that's what you (and everyone affected by the Insanity of Game Instruction) do. "PUA ultimately fails because memorized lines". But you just gave lines in your post! Of course you added a disclaimer on top of your post. But that's just what PUAs would do/say too. And you know what newbies on TRP are going to do with your post? They're going to use your lines and fail because of their shitty delivery despite your disclaimer. And people studying Game in 10 years from now will shit on your name, having forgotten your disclaimer. They'll say "that /u/Popular-Culture guy and TRPers were all about memorized lines that didn't work. Now here's my essay on shit tests..."

The reality is that, just like you, "PUA" offered so much more than "memorized lines". Most of what TRP teaches in terms of Game (Frame, Inner Game, look your best, etc.) is exactly what previous men (now known as "PUA failures") taught. All the bad rep about "PUA" focuses on criticizing the idea of "memorized lines". But if you'd made the effort of reading old material that is now qualified as "PUA", you'd see them giving a lot of the same timeless concepts about intersexual social dynamics, giving some lines as example and criticizing the idea of relying on memorized lines! David De Angelo, one of the first, would make fun of guys asking him for "lines". Neill Strauss, the most well known, would criticize newbies using the same canned lines over and over again: he would warn against becoming "social robots".

The problem with that circle of insanity is that anybody here who never read PUA material because they got convinced that "PUA fails because it's all about memorized lines" before looking at it is missing out on all the awesome info that's in it. The essay on shit tests by /u/illimitableman and your illustrations in this post are great... extensions of what Mystery wrote about the existence and purpose of shit tests and example answers OVER 15 YEARS AGO.

Don't believe me? Here's an excerpt of the Mystery Method section on congruence tests:

It's important to remember that often she is not deliberately testing you. It's not necessarily something that she is consciously aware of. She just gets a feeling to behave a certain way, and so she does. Based on how you react to this, she then feels either more or less attracted as a result. This is known as a congruence test.

If she views you as a contender, then she will test you. A woman often won't even bother to test losers — instead she'll just become non-responsive and then leave as soon as she can. Thus, a test can be considered an indicator of interest, of sorts.

Congruence tests are a double-edged sword; if you respond the right way, she will be noticeably more attracted to you after the test. But if you fail, then she will be noticeably less attracted.

How is that "PUA ultimately failing"? It's red pill before the red pill!

To conclude. I am not writing this to convince you. You know your Game well so you're not missing out on good material out there. I am writing it for the newbies who are going to read your awesome Game post, read your unwarranted criticism of PUAs, and conclude that "TRP is the real deal and PUA is shit" and thus miss out on the awesome opportunity to get educated on Game by reading the foundational Game material that was made before.

EDIT: and since a couple of people have already asked me about Game material, here's what I know of. I'm sure there's much more good material out there, but don't fall into the trap of reading too much and not applying. Read through, pick one (I'm a big fan of Roosh's) and focus on applying it. Read the rest occasionally. Always keep an open mind.

  • David De Angelo's Double Your Dating

  • The Mystery Method (Venusian Arts Handbook / M3 model)

  • Roosh's Bang and Day Bang

  • Julien Blanc and other RSD people. Good youtube videos

  • Mark Manson's Models

  • The Juggler method

  • Chateau Heartiste game posts (google "the roissy reader") and its comments section (check the "YaReally archive")

  • The GetSuave and seduction subreddits

  • /u/tddaygame 's blog

  • Nick Krauser & Tom Torero and the "London Daygame model"

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is why it needs to be internalized. It needs to be an unconcious part of you.

[–]beautifulexit208 points209 points  (15 children) | Copy

This is realy fucking solid. I wish I knew all this 10 years ago. I still find it amazing how women can say something but actually mean the complete opposite. Imagine communicating that way with your guy best friend or your brother or your boss. I'll never understand it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat60 points61 points  (10 children) | Copy

I'll never understand it

It seems retarded, but it all makes sense once you realize the purpose behind it. As usual, Rollo explains it best.

[–]Pepe_Prime23 points24 points  (9 children) | Copy

Thank you for that link.

Side note about the "are you gay?" Shit test.

In my experience I realized girls/women were mostly saying that sort of thing to tease me when I wasn't being physical enough with them. In the early days I would be too nervous to put my arm around them or hold their hand sometimes, etc or even afraid to make casual contact. In my case they were basically telling me I was acting gay, because if I wanted them then I'd be taking them. (That can vary from holding them to kissing them to fucking them)

Basically, instead of being an "ego test" it was more of a challenge of your sexuality.

[–]TheGatesOfValhalla46 points47 points  (5 children) | Copy

My favorite way to kill the "are you gay" shit test.

"lets find out" and go in for the kiss

[–]Shirye19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

I did this and her black boyfriend came out of the bushes and mugged my ass.

Fuk u faygit

[–]TheGatesOfValhalla35 points36 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're problem was going after a coal burner in the first place

[–]caP1taL1sm28 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well I learned a new word today.

[–]Gedankendieb points points [recovered] | Copy

that Urban Dictionary definition sure is colorful

[–]lvl99light points points [recovered] | Copy

Rewind a few months ago... Phone broke so I got a kindle to play Clash of Clans. Fire doesn't support COC so I got kindle unlimited. Related books sound interested so I got The Way of Men. Stumbled upon TRP via searching for recommend book list. Been reading 10-15 hours a week from the side bar since. Got goals that make me happy and motivate me, got more control over my life and better relationships than ever, and I even got a plate spinning with a girl that makes everyone I've shown her pic to say "DAMN" and I'm over here reading this content like it's crack.

Thanks, will keep lurking 11/10

[–]Seoul_Brother4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Real question is, are you still playing Clash of Clans?

[–]growingstronk47 points48 points  (0 children) | Copy

My bros have called me ugly, gay, insulted my body (we're gym bros), and more as shit tests.

Your friends are probably shit testing, and you're probably acing them without ever even realizing it. You just aren't translating that to hanging out with females

[–]bowie7476 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's the only way they can be sure you're made of the right stuff. Anyone can fake confidence.

[–]TimeNdevotion3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wish I knew all this 10 years ago.

Spot on !!!

The same in regards to lifting !

[–]writewhereileftoff36 points37 points  (2 children) | Copy

lol "I've never talked to a girl before" I think I'll steal this one.

[–]Ozymanberg16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

That one made me exhale air from my nose. I'm using this, too

[–]tino1258 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is my favorite in many situations. Especially since it's very obviously false because I'm already half-way to seducing them.

Or responding to the sex line "Thank god, girls have cooties".


[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo91 points92 points  (5 children) | Copy

Rather than memorizing lists of responses, you should just learn the principle behind responding to shit tests, which is this:

I am who I am. I am unapologetic about it. I am not doing anything wrong. I am a ridiculous, horny, crazy, narcissist and you love it. And I brush aside your attempt to make me feel bad about it the way I would brush aside a fly or an annoying 2 year old. I am also having fun so your attempt at making this conversation dark and serious will fail. I am having fun, and you can have fun too if you get with the fucking program.

[–]TripleRedWhey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have a point: you need to understand the reason why these responses work, as opposed to mindlessly repeating them. However, in order to get to that point, you have to practice and it helps to practice with field-tested lines.

If you've ever taken a math class (and learned the concept well), then you've started out with (1) using worked out solutions/examples, (2) repeatedly applying the method for finding the solution to a problem, and then ended with (3) forming your own understanding of why the method works.

The point of these lines isn't to have people become social robots, it's to give people training wheels that help them get more confident (because these lines are more likely to get results than whatever shit they come up with). As they practice more, they get more reference experiences on what a "good" interaction looks like, what a "bad" interaction looks like, and over time develop their own understanding of how to respond to shit tests.

That said, I believe what you're saying is the goal. However, we can't discount the steps that must happen in-between.

[–]mp11127 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Couple months/years ago, I posted on Reddit about using "I have enough friends" to a chick that tried to LJBF. Holy shit did the white knights and guilt trippers come out of the woodwork.

[–]WillyFistergasch points points [recovered] | Copy

White Knights have to defend their choice of orbiting.

Guilt trippers want to shame you into compliance.

Shouldn't surprise you. It's like telling a married couple with kids from a previous marriage that women with kids arent relationship material.

[–]2awalt_cupcake3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like telling a married couple with kids from a previous marriage that women with kids arent relationship material.

This is an excellent comparison. Makes me humanize them more.

[–]IvankasBabyDaddy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

White knights operate like hornets. RP logic is the stiff breeze that knocks down the hive and sends them into a swarming frenzy.

[–]curiously_crazy24 points25 points  (6 children) | Copy

Why is the whole "I'm on my period" thing such a big deal?

Surely I'm not the only one that fucks chicks when they're on their period.. they go to the bathroom, clean emselves up, worst case a bit of blood on my cock. Who the fuck cares? They sure don't.

[–]maxrp points points [recovered] | Copy

I went down on a girl then a stream of blood poured out. Horrible.

[–]my_sfw_alias8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Totally depends on the girl. Sometimes its a fun bloody mess, other times it stinks and is so disgusting you want to run the other way. Usually somewhere in between. Earn your red wings and flap them proudly.

[–]jocomoco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, sometimes I hate them when they are not telling me that they are on their period ... and I find it out when I stick it in... fucking disgusting... this is a good way to pass this shit test :) "thanks for telling me this... coz i hate blood on my dick"

[–]Oz70NYC12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

8 Are you a player?

I've actually responded to that one with "Yea, the most valuable one." If tingles had a facial expression, the look she gave me was it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gold - sidebar material here

[–]Level_Dreaded17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you a player?

At this point, im more of a coach.

Fucking. Brilliant.

[–]LordOfThePiss15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good post, I'm pretty new to this so shit tests are still hella confusing at times. Nice to read some examples.

[–]Popular-Culture points points [recovered] | Copy

Make sure you read the post I linked at the top. It's one of the most important posts you'll find on TRP

[–]Wolffy937 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy


Didn't realize in the past I was passing shit test with flying colors until seeing some of your responses.

However, it is great learning the Why and the How, etc about these. As Rollo explains. Viewing it all as just having fun and not really giving a shit.

Still working towards moving past a 4 year relationship (really short in the bigger picture of things, feels like al lifetime to me)

Have noticed, in my experience at least with friends and strangers, it really comes down to delivery. I personally can get away with a Lot of shit other guys can't. I don't really understand why but comedy, shooting the shit is where my confidence comes from.

Any who


[–]Blitzeis104 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What helped me the most, getting over a 7 year relationship, was having a list of things that pissed me off. You tend to forget those things. I always had 2-3 charataristic i would always recall as soon as i missed her. Helped a ton.

[–]Wolffy931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the part that I've been struggling with. Time is all relative. To someone with experience, 4 years is Nothing. To me, felt like a lifetime. Entire college career, save this final semester coming up in a week. Can only imagine WTF 7 years with one girl is like.

Because of TRP, made a lot of progress in the past 6 , 7 wish months.

However, don't have a lis of things that pissed me off or really annoyed me. Perhaps things that were less than ideal for Her, but nothing that perturbed me. Perhaps very blue pill of me but already spent an absurd amount of time attempting to list things. Got nothing. It takes a lot to annoy or piss me off. For better or worse.

Instead of doing that - what has been working for me is whenever I think of her, just realizing within myself that-

  1. She broke up with me and left. (and the list should just flat out end there)

  2. I am working on myself to raise my attractiveness, my income, raise the bar on my own life as well as raise the quality of woman I will eventually be able to date. TL;DR - upgrading.

^ Even that is not the most important thing to me / what I'm getting out of RP.

Most important thing is not wavering from whatever your mission / path is. Girl or not. Relationship or not. Definitely wavered a good bit. I was working harder for the relationship than it was working for me.

The OPs post really has helped me put things into perspective.

[–]D4rkr4in7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I learned 18 in the worst possible way. A girl was actually gonna give me her number, but my phone glitched out (iOS 10 is so garbage, I've been having so many issues with it) and wouldn't take numbers. I gave her my number instead and I haven't heard from her since.

[–]SovereignSoul768 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah man, 99% of women would never dream of putting themselves in a position where they have to make the first move (or in this case, first text). Too scary.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

flaking. flaking gets me. build up the tension for a week. come the day she pulls out an hour before hand. it's made me cave once or twice like a bitch. obviously not truly undertaking abundance mentality but still. what is their fucking intended outcome when they bail like that.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing you can really do about it. People flake all the time and at most times it may not have anything to do with you.

Just make sure you have tons of options. Kinda like if you are planning on having a party or some get together, or a group outing.

You just text anyone that could make it and PLAN that people will flake. So when they do flake, you don't care because other options are coming.

Its the same with women and dating. Set up multiple dates or activities to do. If they flake, you don't care because you can go to said activity anyways or go on another date.

[–]anewfuckerdome12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

  • I have a boyfriend!
  • Yeah, me! / Now you do! (continues making out with her)

Saw this happen with the biggest womanizer in copenhagen, completely blew my mind the way he acted it, it was more impressive than seeing it on a movie.

[–]akatsukirp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can totally see this happening. When a woman is in control of her relationship with a blue pill guy, she will do this and lie or not make a big deal of it (because it's not her fault that she was drunk).

[–]slothsenpai5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Finally, some real shit-test examples! Okay, whilst we're at it, can anyone tell me how to respond to "what makes you so confident?" or anything along the lines?

[–]Elodere4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can choose between:

"I don't set any expectations, but I always get what I want"


"I'm psychic"


"What makes you so predictable?"

  1. You are basically just showing her that you don't care whether she will get you laid. It's like saying "I am gonna get laid, if it's not you, then fuck off".

  2. This one is a typical "mysterious alpha" example that can lead to her investing more resources into you. It's a typical IDGAF mentality coupled with good humor.

  3. Classic pressure flip example, you put a ton of pressure on her by saying "I know what your next move is, your game is so bad!".

If you need more help, feel free to ask. I got lots of material.

[–]askmrcia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really you can pretty much say anything. Its all about the delivery.

"what makes you so confident?"

"I don't know, maybe its the fact that I listen to Soulja Boy lyrics every time I go to bed."

But yea man, this is where game comes in. Its more body language and how you deliver. The actual words don't mean as much as long as they are not completely cringy or over the top.

[–]1Sir_Distic4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

13: No thanks

14: We're both the same height laying down.

20: All of it.

21: me too.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Acing the Test https://therationalmale.com/2015/01/13/acing-the-test/

Active Testing

When a woman actively, consciously, shit tests you, understand that it is always intentional. This type of shit test is the most common one PUAs encounter in the clubs or whatever their preferred venue may be. With the exception of maybe Day Game, women in these arenas are expecting men to sarge them, and therefore the propensity to deliver a prepared shit test is a conscious decision on her part. For the most part these tests amount to a fun game for her that serve the purpose of determining a guy’s SMV and his Hypergamy optimization potential.

An active test is entertainment to her in the same way it is for a bratty sister and her older brother. There’s usually a lot of witty (hopefully on your part) push-pull to this shit test exchange, but the latent purpose is her subconscious probing you for the possibility that you might ‘get it’ – that you might be able to play the game rather than having to explain it to her or having it explained to you.

As I’ve stated before, a woman who is into you wont confuse you, but a lot of men (particularly overly conditioned Betas) come to believe that any impropriety on his part might be taken as an offensive so they never boldly push back on these test as they should. They fall back on the “Yes M’Lady” white knight script they believe will set them apart from “other guys”, but the guys who ‘get it’ aren’t confused by shit tests. A big brother hits his bratty sister back when they’re play fighting; not so much as to harm her, but just enough to show her who’s stronger, who’s in control of his situation and isn’t afraid to push her back.

If a woman is not testing you in an environment where she could reasonably be expected to actively be doing so, she doesn’t have the interest in you to do so. A lot of men mistake a woman’s “Bitch Shield” as a cue of disinterest or disgust, when in fact these are often calculated shit tests. There are many ways to push past a Bitch Shield for a guy with the brass (and interest) to do so, but it’s a woman’s indifference, not her poised contempt, that cues disinterest.

Active tests are what single men are most likely to encounter in women, and it’s important for these men to understand that this type of test isn’t something you pass, but rather something you capitalize on. For a guy with even a basic grasp of Game these test should be considered nothing but softballs for him to hit out of the park.

Things to remember are Amused Mastery, Command Presence, Agree & Amplify and a basic Cocky & Funny ambience while employing them. I should also add that women deliberately putting themselves into social environments (like a club) who are delivering active shit test are likely at the ovulation point of their Estrus phase – adjust your Game (and birth control methods) accordingly.

If you recognize that you’re being actively shit tested always remember, play with her, and play with her. Shit tests of this nature are opportunities to build attraction as well as arousal, and women want you to get that they are opportunities.

Passive Testing

While active testing is done in awareness with intent by a woman (with only a passing element of her subconsciously doing so), a passive shit test is a reflexive, subconscious test rooted in a woman’s Hypergamous insecurities. In an active test, the latent purpose is one of playfully determining Hypergamous optimization of a new prospective mate. A passive test is rooted in the Hypergamous doubt that a woman’s choice to settle with that man was in fact the best optimization her SMV could afford her.

Passive testing always asks the question that her nagging, hindbrain Hypergamy can’t give a voice to, “Did I make the right choice? Is this guy really the Alpha I thought he was or could be?’

Passive testing is constantly exacerbated or defined by her previous sexual experiences (or lack thereof) or the fantasies of what could be if her circumstances were to change. For women, this is the mental space where the Alpha Widow dynamic is harbored. This is a where the subconscious testing of the man whom she consolidated monogamy with meets her unconscious comparing of him with her past, idealized experiences – or the experiences she believes could be possible if she could determine his suitability for her.

For the most part these tests are ones of measuring his performance and provisioning capacity against his Alpha tingles generating capacity. Passive tests are insidious in that they need a satisfaction of so many Hypergamous elements: Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks, the outperforming of past or fantasized sexual competitors, pushback masculine dominance, status, and many other prerequisites of long term Hypergamous optimization.

As you’ll probably guess the passive test is usually reserved for marriages and LTRs (live in arrangements being common). Any woman not familiar enough with you wont give you a passive test, however you might get one from your mother or a close female relative who needs some reassurance from you (or wants to put you in your place as a Beta). Passive tests seem to be the most hurtful, but it’s important to predict when they’ll come, what’s triggered them and the root insecurity behind them that women either aren’t consciously aware of or can’t openly reveal because, once again, it ruins the game and her determining if you ‘just get it’ without being told.

As with active tests demonstration, not explication, is the key to resolving and capitalizing on them. These are the types of tests that aggravate most men because they generally feel they’re locked into solving them. Thus, they make grandly overt affairs of bringing a woman’s ‘bull shit’ to light in an effort to quell her insecurities, but also to feel like they’re reasonably holding her personally accountable for her “stupid shit testing”.

And as with most similar efforts, appealing to a woman’s reason never ‘solves’ her problem. Hypergamy doesn’t reason, Hypergamy only feels. Demonstrating you get what she’s doing will help you capitalize on her insecurities far more than explicating that you know what she’s doing by shit testing you.

You’ll probably have guessed that passive tests are most commonly generated while a woman is in the luteal phase of her menstrual cycle, but it when that insecurity relates to her partner’s Alpha suitability there is some crossover into her proliferative phase. It’s important for married men to determine the nature of his wife’s insecurity with regard to her tests and when they’re most commonly delivered.

If she’s testing you at or around her ovulatory window, if she’s regularly insisting on a Girls Night Out around this time (yes, it’s a shit test), if she’s not sexually interested in you during her estrus, it’s likely she’s uncertain about your Alpha Fucks suitability to her. If her tests come during her luteal phase, if she’s nagging or provoking you about money, emotional availability or even how she wants to live closer to her parents, it’s likely her insecurity is based on her perception of your status, provisioning capacity or your Beta Bucks potential to make more of it.

While these types of shit tests based on Hypergamous insecurity may seem like a lost cause, understand that many of the same techniques used to capitalize on active tests still apply. Not all passive tests are delivered in the negative, and applications like Command Presence and Agree & Amplify demonstrate to a woman that you get it, that you see her tests for what they are, and you’re prepared for them without revealing the game you both know you’re playing.

Even well timed Amused Mastery (after you’ve established mastery of her) is enough to defuse a shit test with potentially negative implications. Once the precedence of your mastery is set it’s an easy fallback she’ll expect from you.

Granted, there are more direct ways of demonstrating your optimization to her – staying in better shape than she’s in is an obvious one, casually emphasizing passive dread (a.k.a. married social proof) is another – but the important part is recognizing what aspect of her Hypergamy is generating that insecurity.

In closing here I feel it’s incumbent upon me to address the most obvious response most guys will have to all of this: “Fuck that, I’m not dealing with her shit, just don’t get married, just don’t put up with it, just go your own way, call her on her bullshit” to which I’ll say, “yeah, you’re right, it makes more sense just to disconnect entirely”.

It would be great if women could be relied upon to be rational, reasonable agents as most would like men to believe they are. I mean, they should be, right? You should just simply be able to say to a girl or your wife “Hey I know all the games your playing and why you’re playing them, so lets just drop all of the pretentiousness and get down to fucking and living, OK?” But all this amounts to is negotiating for her genuine desire. Real desire on a woman’s part never comes from rational, reasonable explanations of why she should desire you, it comes from your demonstrations and your example.

Even the men who rule their women with an iron fist will still deal with women’s tests directly or indirectly without even realizing they’re doing so.

[–]beautifulexit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

After reading your post, Rollo, is this an accurate assessment?

Low-to-Mid range SMV men: do not get shit tested because women have already decided that they are unfuckable

Above average SMV men: women shit test heavily because it's not easy to tell if they are high value or not

High SMV men: do not get shit tested because they're attractive enough where women don't have to "play games" when they're into a guy this badly

[–]StevenAFrench24 points25 points  (14 children) | Copy

"You're An Asshole!"

  • "Yep, and you love it!"

Seriously? I can't help but imagine 99% of women smiling and saying "yeah..." and walking away. Seems like it's trying way too hard.

[–]JustinDX22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy

Haha you haven't had enough experience as a RP yet.

Passing shit tests when you've got a shredded physique and a killer devil smile with holding eye contact is easy.

Most of the time shit tests are easily passed by just responding as an asshole would - don't give a fuck and constantly amuse yourself.

"You're an asshole" - Yeah its been that way for a while, I'm almost at a dick/fuckboy level, how old are you.

[–]ShamwowTseDung6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Passing shit tests when you've got a shredded physique and a killer devil smile with holding eye contact is easy.

It's a mental thing, not physical.

/u/StevenAFrench (and the many others), this is something you'll have to experience yourself. Part of it works because the insult 'asshole' isn't really an insult, but a means to keep you in check, or to test your reaction as a means to feel out discover your personality.

Communication isn't used only to share thoughts and ideas...but that's a lesson for another day.

You can just say 'thank you' and smile. You can call this, being an asshole of a gentleman. I've done it.

With the right attitude behind it, anything works.

Sincerely, Bird-chested, with the face of an angel

[–]JustinDX4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can't rule out physical aspects - eye contact + eyebrow gestures, tonality, posture, smile.

Shit I have a story of how i picked up a Korean girl (I live in Sydney) with ZERO WORDS. I passed what were 100% shit tests (kept denying the hookup by turning her head away in a shy/not yet way). I dealt with this by holding eye contact solidly for at least 2 minutes and just went for it again. NO RESISTANCE. NO ANIME EYES.

You can't tell me passing shit tests is purely mental when I've used the above physical gestures to not only pass shit tests but bring out the inner sloot of girls. YES THAT IS HOW YOU FUCK AT THE CLUB (90% Eye contact + 10% Talking -> Tensions)

Note: I don't talk to girls the way most would. I talk A LOT OF SHIT - im up myself x 1000 (contantly reminded of this) however when It comes to pulling I stop thinking and GOLD comes out of my mouth, DIRTY GOLD that would make any normal girl stab you if she heard it.

TLDR - Go lift and practice holding eye contact/posture/smile (or not depending on whether you look better with a resting asshole face) while walking the busy city streets in the day/night. After a while you will automatically combat these little "shit tests" purely just my doing what I do: Girl - "blah blah" You - Hold eye contact -> Raise eyebrows -> Devil smirk

[–]ShamwowTseDung-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't rule out physical aspects

If you think I suggested or implied such a thought, feel free to quote me. What I do rule out is: advising others to do the same things you do, because they work for you, therefore they must work for every other individual...???

You can't tell me passing shit tests is purely mental

I'm telling you it's purely mental. Otherwise it's dumb luck.

Putting aside the aforementioned statement (with it's intent to be douchey), it all stems from the mental.

You give physical solutions to someone who has issues regarding a certain mentality. He cannot imagine it. Can you truly expect to have success with anything, if you do not believe it is possible to succeed?

Don't forget the phases of "taking the red pill". That comes from someone who cannot deal with reality: Having sex without being in a relationship? "You can't do that." Having sex with a stranger you just met? "You're crazy." In the same day? "Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. That's impossible."

Regarding physicality, have you ever heard the stories of the little Chad-that-should-but-didn't? Those rainbow-shitting gifts from heaven who still manage to lose frame, women, money, and respect, time and time again? That's a man who has it all physically, but for some "strange" reason, even when things CANNOT go wrong, he manages to find a way to ruin everything.

You can tell a guy how to contort himself in all sorts of positions, but it means jack shit if he doesn't believe in the possibilities.

[–]Ozymanberg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. If you say things confidently enough you can get away with murder lol

Another one I'd use is "You're an asshole!" "Hey, we've got something in common!"

[–]fcb982925 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It works on the girls hunting for cock. It fails demonstrably on girls who dont know if they want cock or not. Bottom line is a net win by saving you from wasting time on girls better left for cucks.

[–]dmanisclutch5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Id rather be an asshole than a pussy

[–]BestSC862 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I use "that's the word on the streets...." with a <smirk>

[–]Polishrifle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think this one is way better if you're trying to game girls. Most girls would be very off put by the answer given above. You know, fragile egos and all.

Delivery is key in either way. Really depends on how much comfort you've given her. If this comes out and you've been running Patrice style game, this is the last thing I would say. A more aloof response would definitely give you a better response.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks, you're not so bad yourself.

[–]1RPAlternate428 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post will make all autists in here, that need a flowchart, happy.

[–]newkidonleblock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love this post! Saved it so I can look at it again ;) thanks op

[–]mcr00sterdota2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well done OP. So in short, just answer everything sarcastically.

[–]FlexGunship2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are great.

I got to "are you a player?" "At this point I'm more of a coach."

God damn, I've used that line! I seriously thought I invented it. I've never told another guy, either. Well, shit. I guess I'm not a special snowflake.

[–]Fear_Up2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just saw a good model of delivery last night. Chevy Chase in the film caddy shack epitomizes the unwavering and carefree way to pass shit tests. He turns every test into a ridiculous joke and demonstrates an important factor of the shit test, the follow up. You have to move the conversation along after you pass, through words or actions.

[–]smokeybehr2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I'm just talking to a female, just trying to ask her a question, not trying to hit on her, and she throws the "I have a boyfriend" line, I usually counter back with "That's nice, but I don't give a shit. What I want to know is..." I don't have time for the bitches who think their SMV is about 500% higher than it really is.

[–]Temptationn2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got "I'm not having sex with you" I replied with "wait you thought we were having sex?" 10 mins later I was fingering her in a park, I actually didn't have sex with her she was drunk and seemed the type to scream rape, so I told her that's as far as I'll go lets go.

[–]OneLifeSucks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What about just being a grown ass man and not putting up with any of that because you've internalized your own high value and know there are other chicks who would fuck with less effort so we can cut the verbal chess match? Like I get the LMR stuff and whatever but shit like "I have a boyfriend" and "You're not my type" gets a "true" from me and a hard swerve. Any chick who thinks she's that hot shit to pull that trash is just trouble which you don't need considering there's a down bitch somewhere who would worship you for waaaay less bs. If you're truly a high value man and you know that, don't cater to that shit. Show them that bs ego of theirs can walk and they'll either chase or not doesn't matter but you're doing other guys in the future a favor.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

10 “You’re too old/young for me”

Don't worry, I wont use your age against you

14 “You’re too short for me”

This one may or may not work, it really depends on many factors, but i usually say...

it wont matter much when you're on your knees.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

A lot of this is bull fucking shit. The "appropriate" responses to "we're not having sex" and "I'm on my period" were ridiculous. Maybe she actually doesnt want to have sex/is actually on her period???? What a thought! When a girl seems to be rejecting you, she's not REALLY rejecting you, this is all a ploy! How could a girl EVER reject ME?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Why does "no" and "stop", and trying to get away seem to be consent to everyone here except maybe you?

What if a woman really isn't lying about rape or abuse (both usually lead to each other).

Rape victims often develop learned helplessness. No one listens when they said no. Many shut down and go into dissociation from their minds and bodies. They're vulnerable and often broken, getting preyed on again and again because they're too busy fighting a losing battle with anxiety, depression, self harm, and suicide.

What warped mentality considers this playing games, or that no doesn't really mean no.

What makes men here think that actual rape victims don't hate the women who lie about it.

What if a woman is pushed to suicide because they've had a horrible life, and this is the last straw that broke the camel's back? It just doesn't matter as long as a man gets another lay, does it?

And we're cold and selfish for not being approachable, for no longer being able to trust and because intimacy, especially sex, is terrifying. The fear is all encompassing. So far you fear for your life and the knowledge that you're just a piece of damaged goods to be discarded like trash.And your resists are just "testing" and ignored.

I don't believe in cheating. I never had and would break up before it came to that. My one and only bf who was using me cried in front of me, had panic attacks, and I never used it against him. He was just using them to manipulate me anyways.

He thought it was funny to ask if I was pregnant. I developed anorexia. He was overweight.

He mostly talked about himself and I was just the audience. I never trusted him enough to share how I was feeling.

I don't even want kids. I'm not shopping around for a meal ticket provider.

He broke up with me after a soul crushing death in my family.

I don't trust any man. How can I? Some women turn bitter and fight back. I've just given up on men. Men aren't safe. This subreddit only compounds on what I already knew.

Some women may have hurt some men here, though it's hard to believe men have the emotional compacity to be hurt given what I've read. It's all sex and women house slaves (so called wives).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am so sorry about what happened to you. But glad to see your personal story and examples backing me up here. I find it ridiculous that the mental responses that this dude has to these "shit tests" are basically: "She's giving me excuses, but she's not being serious and actually wants to have sex with me." This dude seems to think that every reason/excuse a girl gives is fake (not that she even should have to give an excuse to make a guy stop advancing on her, she should just be able to say "no" and be left alone).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Apparently women aren't entitled to have a say because not only are we too "childish", but we're only lying, and also what else are we good for anyways than to use up and then throw away? We've "hit the wall".

When learned helplessness sets in and a woman "star fishes", and she's no longer all that much fun anymore bc she's depressed all the time because she's been shown that she's only human garbage as far as her bf and previous men are concerned, he finds new ways to trick her into unconsentual sex to get around whatever term TRP uses for her no doubt fake depression. Waiting until she's asleep, after she's taken her medication for panic attacks, or when she's had too much to drink to escape some of the reality of her life.

Alcohol effects the brain, and this includes the frontal lobe and other parts responsible for judgement. This is well documented. Or are people faking drunk driving too?

A woman can make the decision to drink. A part of taking a drink doesn't meant that she signs away her consent to sex.

Whether a woman intentionally gets drunk, or gets drunk bc she forgot to eat and her tolerance has changed, what difference does it make?

Do men sign away their consent to have their money taken at gun point when they choose to drink?

And why does a man feel entitled to decide for rape victims how they should feel? How do anyone of these men know what it's like to be shown that every man is out to get you and your world is a very dangerous place. That you deserve no better than to be sexually assaulted. You don't matter. Many victims HAVE tried to kill themselves. Many victims DO prefer the escape of death over the never ending psychological trauma and pain. Who cares what these men THINK is worse when it hasn't happened to them? Who cares what they think when it's these men who are DOING it to these victims?

Long story short, I really doubt that many of these men actually believe what they write. They just want justification and "it's okay" for hurting others.

Whether a man has been victimized by a woman in the past, why is it okay to turn around and devote themselves to victimizing all women now?

Why is it okay to prey on vulnerable women? To decide their resistance is fake, and to just do it anyways? Then to accuse them of false accusations of rape?

There are more and more women who are okay with casual sex. And instead of deciding to ask these willing women, they're called "sluts" and "whores" and aren't good enough. Because consent isn't good enough.

Men here don't want consent. They want rape. And how many lives will they ruin and end to get their kicks?

And why is a woman who sleeps around any worse than a man who sleeps around? If they don't use protection, BOTH will probably get diseased. If they DO use protection, then none will probably get disease.

Why is a woman who cheats worse than a man who cheats? Why aren't both equally reprehensible?

[–]SquishyJohnny9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

Lol what.... Those example responses are cringy af. No true confident guy would get on /redpill to validate their masculinity.

I'm sure that a lot of lost causes here are writing those responses in their notebooks to have them memorized. This sub cracks me up. Its like a collective of scrubs putting their minds together to get chicks.

[–]namaste629 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

As a chick, I can confirm that their entire list is bullshit. The insecurity is quite strong here.

[–]IvankasBabyDaddy4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

As a chick, why are you even here?

[–]SquishyJohnny13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls can enjoy comedy too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I enjoy reading this too hahaha

The majority of the responses on this are bizarre. Did you see the response for "let's just be friends"? The supposedly correct response is: "I have enough friends." I'm sorry that you absolutely can't handle not being in a romantic relationship with a girl you're into??

[–]namaste621 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I come here for entertainment, really.

[–]Prime_Tyme2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too be fair most of this will work on girls in the 18-22 range

[–]GOATmar5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I don't wanna get u pregnant" in response to most of these would suffice tbh. give it a try, it's the most hilarious thing to drop randomly and they'll laugh for days.

if not, the default beauty;

"it's complicated"

[–]Orig_analUse_rname points points [recovered] | Copy

I hope this doesn't spread too much. Then they'll come up with even more shit tests.

[–]fcb982923 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

One would think so, but girls teach eachother these shit tests over the generations and dude, their shit never ages. Such shit tests should not bother a guy with proficiency in the female psyche, either. If he gets frustrated or isnt scoring after knowing how to maneuver through the shit tests, he is doing something wrong.

[–]do_it_or_leave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rofl 19 is Golden. It has so many interpretations, her hamster will get fit after this much spinning man!

[–]ScumbagPotato1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This suave motherfucker. Looking forward to part 2!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great summary for beginners

[–]Hamilton950B1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some of my favorite responses. These are not original, I got them off TRP.

Buy me a drink: "Why don't I just write you a check?"

I have a boyfriend: "Where is he?" or "Does he let you talk to other men?"

I bet you say that to every girl: "What, did you think you were special?"

[–]1Shyrk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The response to #7 is brilliant.

[–]SquishyJohnny1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

After checking out this thread I've come to a couple of conclusions. This is definitely the wrong thread for a comment like this but it is somewhat relevant to the entire subreddit of /theredpill.

There's something inherently wrong with this subreddit. From what I see, you have a bunch of people who call themselves Alpha giving advice on how to be Alpha. Thing is, you're either born one or you aren't and to be honest a collective of "Alphas" which make up TRP sounds BS to me.

If you're a scrubby beta kid, you can't read up on how to be good with women and get good.

I just see a buncha beta kids who suck at women coming into these "advice" threads and studying up. If you're a subpar or geeky guy who has had few luck with women. Gaining a big ego, or adopting this mentality that you're the shit just puts you in a worse off spot than you are currently.

Have you seen a scrubby kid act all confident? Its weird man, you gotta stick with who you are and work on that. Being overly confident/cocky isn't a myth. An example is my scrubby friend, this dude goes clubbing with me and my friends in NYC, circle/slate. He's generally been a nerdy geeky kid with no luck getting women, he starts asking me to wingman him.

I'm not going bother man that shit is a waste of my time, I give him a peptalk and told him to be confident to women, just psych yourself up tell em you're the shit. Every woman he walked up to he got rejected. I'm just standing there cracking up, they could smell this scrub from a mile away. That scene just isn't for him. But yea, dis sub cracks me up. Y'all funny af.

TLDR work on your strengths, you're either born with it or you're not. Going out of character makes you look fucking weird. These lines won't help you. You can't learn witty rhetoric, it should be a natural response. If you have to refer to memory you're shit outta luck.

[–]Ochreata1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I disagree. People aren't born with the ability to ride bikes. They try, crash and burn again and again, until eventually it is so natural they are yelling 'look mum no hands'. For some the alpha mentality is natural, for others it is a journey.

Even the weakest betas have the potential to grow into alphas, and that is what this sub is all about. Those of us who have gone through our journey are here to teach others, as well as add to the knowledge of the praxeology that is the red pill. Natural born alphas have very little to add because for the most part they are totally unaware of why things work.

[–]SquishyJohnny0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I get what you're saying and you have some valid points but it just goes over my head. My response is this example. Say you're a scrawny nerdy kid at school, you're smart but not very confident nor good with women, and sometimes bullied. You get on the red pill - read some things, and start changing your lifestyle.

You get jacked, you're more confident, you're potentially very wealthy at this point. However, you're still a zebra, a very jacked zebra. You're not a lion and you can't be. Its extremely difficult to completely change your habits and personality.

Say this person is now married to a supermodel. He thinks hes made it. This is the"alpha" lifestyle and he's set. How do you know shes not using this guy for money?

His wife is still gonna be banging the jock that bullied him in school when he was scrawny lol. I mean i feel like women can just sense it, its evolutionary/natural instinct. They're gonna go for a naturally alpha guy rather than a person whos had to work 10x has hard to get to where he is.

This isn't a humble brag or anything but like me I have no problem getting women and I consider myself a scrubby individual, I'm not brilliant nor smart and i'm not jacked as fuck. But bagging women is a joke, i have no issues. It comes naturally. So when I read shit like this where guys have to try super hard to improve themselves, i'm just thinking wow. Aint got no time 4 that.

[–]disgruntledearthling-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fish telling fishermen how to fish...

[–]SquishyJohnny-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol what does this even mean. You trying to instigate something or are you implying you're a fisherman and im the fish?

2 things for you. Fight me son, you aint shit. PM me.

2nd thing, how the fuck are you even remotely considering yourself a fisherman. This coming from the guy who posts "I'm meeting up tonight with a possible FWB curvy girl from Tinder. We were both pretty clear on what we want so this meetup is mostly to confirm that we'll click. I'm older - she's 31. I'm still extracting myself from a BP life so I don't want to show anything BP but on the other hand I don't want to blow it by pushing too hard the other way. I intend to first greet with a hug and go for a kiss right away and slowly escalate with kino as we progress. Advice?"

You're a late 30s, early 40s yr old man tryna act hard lmfao you're asking for advice on how to proceed with a "fwb type situation" nigga get the fk outta here pussy.

Its no wonder your wife left you and you're divorced.

[–]disgruntledearthling0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, you're ready for combat aren't you... Asshole

[–]A_Pink_Slinky3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know I always heard this sub was trash, but now I know it's just cringe

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You must be the life of the party

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

great list, you basically feel like you can walk away anytime, it's the feeling when you say it.

[–]Tongue371 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol who wants to play these silly games all the time just for pussy..I have pretty much opted out of the game

[–]DntPnicIGotThis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You would have hit karma gold had you posted these individually in the thread. But these should be higher up in sub.

[–]Eltiah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Im going to keep this as a cheat sheet on the go!

[–]vtempest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what about answering tests with tests?

[–]bleuge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is fuckin goldmine, post part 2 ! :D

[–]Romyyy990 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can someone PDF this? It's gold.

[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

These are perfect and spot on, maybe add an addition of how to react in social situations? like if she ask if you're gay in a social setting agree and amplify probably wouldnt work in that situation, guys that want to fuck her will use that against you, so in that situation would probably be best to pressure flip.No, Are you?

[–]askmrcia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I gotta disagree. One time my ex (I swear I hate even bringing this up)

brought up how I talked too much during sex in a social setting. Yea completely putting our business out there like that and she never told me that one on one.

But how I handled the situation was that I just laughed it off and said sometimes I wish I could have dated a deaf girl because when they nag I won't hear anything.

And its important to note, I said that as if I was joking. Shut that down real quick and yes she gave me the death stare. But had I reacted like it bothered me, it would have made me look really bad in front of everyone.

Now to be fair, if a LTR is doing this to you in a social setting, its very disrespectful in my opinion and goes beyond a typical shit test. So its safe to say our relationship didn't last long after that.

If she were to ask if I were gay or if some random woman was to ask if I was gay in a social setting, I would say "why don't we to my house and find out" with a smirk.

It really don't matter what you say, you just have to have the body language to let everyone know it doesn't bother you.

[–]grandmazboy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good post, thanks for being straight to the point and brief.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

just great answers thank you!!!

[–]3x_Q0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How about for number 4: you'll see if I'm gay or not once we go to my home

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Alternate for #11: "Well you are what you eat!"

[–]herrobot220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've never talked to a girl before hahahaha

[–]zattraction0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I don't usually get too wasted when I go out, so I pretty often get some kind of

"Oh how come you're not drinking like everyone else?"

"What, you're getting a coke? Your mum doesn't let you drink?"

shit test.

I'd like to think I usually pass it, but it'd be good to see how you guys would respond to that one!

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yea sometimes I got that one. Like I would just drink water at a party and some friends or a girl would ask me why you not drinking.

Usually I just respond with "I'm not drinking tonight" and act like I don't care.

If a girl ask me that, I would say "im not drinking tonight, but we could def get some drinks later tonight or tomorrow."

Its really all in your body language and your delivery. Just show that whatever someone says, it don't affect you.

[–]2awalt_cupcake1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh how come you're not drinking like everyone else?"

Pressure flip and disqualify

"I don't want to drink right now-- are you one of those lame girls that has to do what everyone else is doing?"

"What, you're getting a coke? Your mum doesn't let you drink?"

Agree & Amplify

"She doesn't even let me leave the house, I had to sneak out."

[–]RememberingAlpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Number 9- Right in the feels....

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I bet you get all the girls with this gem... hahaha

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Making shit tests fun haha

[–]bigk12345[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have been getting "Is everything OK? You look upset " quite a bit, even at work.

I feel like I'm just dialled in at work.

My posture improved since I have been working out religiously.

At work, I am social most of the time and everyone's energy jumps up because I get people involved in the conversations. When I am focused, everyone's energy plummets.

Can someone elaborate?

[–]supper_pt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Triple A post!

This should be stickied to the side bar, the concept of shit tests is a hard one to grasp for new RP initiates.

[–]_PowerBull0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am pretty sure I saw those on Chateau Heartiste

[–]Prime_Tyme0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Number 7 Response to are you a player is gold. So many times I have to hold my tongue about saying "I'm not a player I just fuck a lot " like everyone else does. A+ !!!!

[–]dickcomments0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I prefer a slightly different answer to "I have a boyfriend" that always throws them off.

Her "Sorry, I have a boyfriend"

Me "Are you going to marry him?"

This puts them on the defensive immediately and now you are in control. No matter what she says besides "go away" is something you can shift to your benefit.

[–]MrBellsprout1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Her: You're too short for me.

You: Too short for what?

Her: Too short for me.

You: And what are you?

These mind fucks are always fun.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

LOL do you chodes actually get this shit from girls?

Go out more, and grow some balls kids.

[–]HeinousFu_kery0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"We're not having sex."


"Are you gay?"

"Are you the alternative?" (quote from somewhere, but it really gets a rise out of them)

“I bet you say that to every girl”

"I haven't met every girl"

"You're an asshole"

"You're into that sort of thing, are you?"

[–]whutyomamado0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

What if she really is on her period??

Happened to me in hs. She resisted my attempts to finger her in the car and I did it anyway. Afterwards I went to the bathroom to pee and my finger is red as fuck and my boy saw it and told everyone. I still laugh to this day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

What the hell is wrong with you? Why would you finger her even when she resisted? That's sexual assault.

[–]whutyomamado0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

She enjoyed it after she let me. I didn't mean to make it sound so forced. She brushed my hand away in the beginning and after some more foreplay I tried again and she let me. This was also from when I was in hs.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, as long as she let you that's fine. But don't assume that you just need to push and try again, and then the girl will like it. I think when a girl says no and resists, you should just stop and talk about what she wants and doesn't want. Also, in response to "This is also from when I was in hs," I don't care. What you did in hs, and what happens to a girl in hs, can be remembered for the rest of the girl's life. I don't care you were just a teen, teens need to be taught about consent.

[–]freethinker340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For some reason, I get upset with certain shit tests. Even though I know that I'm supposed to overcome it, sometimes it just pisses me off. For example I had a first date last weekend, we had a glass of wine together and things were going well so she suggested that we go dancing somewhere (which is kinda bad already since the man is supposed to lead) but nevertheless it sounded good to me so we went. Then while we were dancing I decided I would escalate, by dancing close to her and putting my hands on her waist. That's when I started getting body language of her trying to dance further away, and she said you like to dance close don't you.

That shit pissed me off, and I knew it was wrong to get upset, so I internalized it and just started dancing as far away from her as possible. She ended up trying to get close to me after that, but my mood was kind of ruined. Thinking back before we met, I remember her asking me what I'm on Tinder for, and she said she was just there for friends. I said I was there to meet someone with chemistry and she said she was just there for friends, but I didn't think anything of it.

Typical garbage hug after dropping her off, as all my dates end. She texted me thanks and good night afterwards, which I don't know if it meant don't talk to me again or it was sincere, but nevertheless I texted her goodnight and never spoke to her again.

I'm probably being butthurt and that's exactly what these shit tests are for, to get rid of guys that are easily butthurt. Well I guess they work

[–]Tacticalogistics0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Actually, for number six, there's still a way. Skip to 4:32 of this video https://youtu.be/hj5WqO8VUSs

[–]revente0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“Buy me a drink”

I won't, but i'll make you a breakfast.

“You’re too short for me”

Great i love motorboating.

[–]work103060 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"I have a boyfriend" "And you need his permission to have a conversation?" is usually my go to response to that. But a few of these I never thought how to respond, thanks for the guide.

[–]OriharaCat0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is it ok to respond to shit test with brutal violence? I think mental games are pointless and should be dealth with permanently

[–]Popular-Culture points points [recovered] | Copy

there might be something wrong with you to even ask that

[–]OriharaCat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you sure? I mean think about it. Say the guys think they are all rough and tough so they go to you and try to give you some shit test. Next thing the guy knows he is in a hospital! Nobody would fuck with you again.

[–]503390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My alternative answer to all these is "mhm". Because theres no way Im gonna memorize all that and it works just as well.

[–]LazerDolphins0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hahah I'm on my period. And I have a boy friend we're test I ran into last weekend but both actually were true test I overcame😂 hahha.... minus I only stuck it in her for a few seconds and was kinda weirded out about raw dogging a period girl but she was a solid 9-10.. I took the sad thoughts with a blow job to ease my pain...

[–]winndixie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Aside from all the people saying "be yourself" rather than canned lines, as a newbie, thank you for these "canned" lines because it helps me get into state and be myself. I tend to be inspired this way and come up with my own, and reading this, i already know which ones to use and which ones ill use my own instead. Please post more. In short, this helps out a person like me, thank you.

[–]areweforreal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Every comment here is amazing. Though I have an issue with one the fact that, if you approach a girl, and she says she has a boyfriend, will you guys still go ahead with it?

Isn't that wrong on the male community to fuck up your brothers for what a girl?

[–]patrice_plz_come_bac0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can someone add a copy? Why is it deleted

[–]OzzyDaGrouch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But uhhh...What if she IS on her period??


[–]Luckyluke23-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

great post man, i wish more people would do post like this instead of " blue pill examples" and all the shitty circle jerk that goes on here

[–]The_M0rning_Star-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ok most of these are pretty good. 14 is gold. Should worn my heels, that's just amazing. 15 would make me chuckle too.

19 is nope. That one would make me go ew gross and turn away. Don't talk about the other chicks you screw, duh. "Are you single" isn't really "do other women find you attractive". It's "so what's the competition look like". By bringing up the competition, you're reminding them about how much work they'll have to do to satisfy you.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

My favorite retort to the short comment: "I'm plenty tall lying down."

I'm 5'9" and used to catch plenty of "too short" jabs. I swear to god I slept with more tall chicks than short ones.

[–]1Jaereth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tall chicks will fuck anyone, just like most chicks. They just don't want to be in a LTR with a guy much shorter than them because of the "image".

As long as they understand it's fun only they don't care.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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