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[–]MatSapientia234 points235 points236 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
With feminism it’s a lose-lose..
[–][deleted] 138 points139 points140 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
or just women. doesn't matter how tradcon, virgin, strong male father figure she has, women an incapable of being happy, especially post wall.
as I have gotten older and approaching 40, i find the thing i strive for most...is peace. peace of mind, body, just to not have stress from day to day. I can handle the boredom, the loneliness, just as long as there is no unwarranted stress. I sometimes go weeks, hell months with almost no drama. that isn't possible if you cohabitate with a woman at all.
[–]beenthere78952 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You are my doppelganger.
"women are incapable of being happy, especially post wall"
Their happiness comes from drama, stupidity and making you miserable. They infect you like a virus.
Am mid fifties. All i wanted was peace of mind, soul and body. If I get bored and lonely, thats ok because its on me and i can change it in a flash with my buddies or the many hobbies i have at my disposal.
But, like you, there is no stress or explaining to a woman or asking permission to do anything.
Nirvana.
I will raise a glass of cheer to you and all other men who are where we are now in life.
[–]BobbingForBunions9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm near your age. I agree with you; living without female-caused stress is blissful.
[–]Borgmeister7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hear hear.
[–]8017352 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cheers! To freedom.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thanks brother. yeah, sometimes I get lonely or have my own existential crisis or whatever. just existence. not hard to change at my age. I have time, money and all it takes is some self motivation. Was feeling a bit too in a loop recently so made it a conscious decision to swim at the new pool that opened up near me at least once a week. also going to take cooking classes soon i just signed up for. easy. the misnomer for most men is thinking that the loneliness that we all feel in life can be satisfied with a woman. nope, a video game or day at the gym is just as good, if not better when you get older.
.... and it's not so much their happiness comes from drama. rather its their constantly shifting ego. their overinflated ego comes from years of external validation. eventually their only source of happiness is to be reaffirmed of that value. and drama is the best way to do it. bored in life? why not create a huge drama in your marriage to the point your husband is telling you how much he appreciates you or he's sorry for that or that. all a control game, like a slave and master, but the irony is eventually the symbiotic relationship flips, and the slave man eventually becomes the master to the post wall whore, and she is as reliant on his kind words and romance as much as the young man is reliant on the young girls pussy and hugs. that is always the big irony to me, most women are CC rider orbiter central in their 20's and then when men start pumping and dumping as we get older and have more status and money, they actually have the nerve to complain we're doing the exact same shit they did by dating so many people simultaneously.
[–]MeGoingTOWin1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and Yes! I am late 40s and will have an ex-wife in about 3-4 weeks. Life was great and beautiful for 15+ years then suddenly she isn't happy even though life was still great! I now am in a place where i love not needing to every ask for anything from her and just live how i want in peace and contentment with my dogs!
Women don't seem to value contentment whereas it seems for most men contentment is the pinnacle.
[–]Bing_Bang_Bam1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's also they're inability to see an overall big picture.
[–]jabbercockey1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
56 been going my way, red pill aware for 5 years. Never been happier. The only female who crosses my threshold is my little dog and even she is an entitled bitch some days.
[–]BobbingForBunions9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My thoughts exactly. Ignore and avoid women, and it's amazing how little drama and stress occur.
Related to that in reference to the OP, if a man wrestles a woman, he has already failed.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah, i cringe at how many times i tried to "talk" to women i dated in my 20's. like a logical, rational discussion would do shit. it'd just make me more their bitch because they saw I didn't have the dominance to put them in their place. pass on both ends. i'd rather not smack a bitch around and i really learned never try to prove a rationale to them.
[–]Jarin012 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly man. Pre red pill, when I was married my life was one of non stop stress and drama. Women are emotional addicts and will make you miserable just to get their fix. The last two years since going MGTOW my life has been one of constant peace and serenity.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
the irony is its good to have emotional awareness in any situation. women are good at understanding the social hierarchy of society, because they are obsessed with it. but there is never an end game. there is never an action that creates happiness within them. instead they bash their head and ego against your life endlessly, even when you are a perfect man that has a spine. when PUA talk about "Holding frame". it's like yeah, sure that works, but eventually it doesn't, and who wants to always be on all the time worrying about psychologically putting out the right stuff to control your psycho woman.
[–]Jarin011 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You see a lot of former PUAs on YouTube claiming to be red pilled and talking about how you can use game to keep your woman in line. But game is not a cure for female nature, you can only keep her in check for so long, and game is certainly not a shield from the gynocentric laws. That's why I say that if you are not MGTOW then you are not Red Pilled. MGTOW is the Red Pill.
there are snake charmers that go 20 years without a bite. and then one day. shiiiit.
I never paid for any PUA anything but I looked up some stuff in my youth. didn't really get red pilled until into my mid 20's. to my blue pill mind, and just the reality of the situation. ALL PUA can be summarized into one idea; women are shitty immature creatures, if you want them to love you, you have to act void of emotion and weakness and treat them like the disposable garbage they see you as.
uhhhh. yeah. i'll pass. all PUA does is exploit what the red pill teaches to try and bring some temporary enlightenment of being able to crack the female aura. truth is women are easy to decipher, but once you finally do, it's just a box full of shit. who wants it.
[–]hugaddiction1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Negative emotion reduction. Life isn’t about being happy, but if you can limit the negative emotion that results from the difficulties of life (i.e. women causing drama in your life), your winning. Keep up the good fight.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
nice way to put it. what amazes me is how much joy comes simply from removing all negative emotion. I'd argue life really isn't about gain or joy or winning, rather simplifying to a state of mind where loss and change barely effects you because you only take care of yourself and you're well prepared.
[–]hugaddiction0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well prepared and strong. That’s what a man is
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
couldn't agree more. I try not to think negatively about life but I have a bug-out bag, and dry food storage, I work out 3-4x a week with the goal not to look good, but have strength need I survive a mass extinction type of event. that's how we got so damn advanced, being prepared. women are living in the age of hedonism and next catastrophe that hits, they are all going to die horrible deaths from starvation and non protection by alpha men.
[–]SlowJellyfish114 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
... and if she can't find a "real man", men need to "step up" economically even though she's post-wall. No thank you. God made women hot young so she can find a guy and stick with him -- not to ride the carousel.
[–]hugaddiction7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There is an entire generation of women, maybe more coming, that didn’t figure this out and are now such a large population of unhappy women post wall that they coined a nick name for them..the age of the “Karen”.
[–]rkelly1112 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And karenisha
[–]hugaddiction2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe in Russia it’s a Karenina, like Anna Karenina, who ultimately jumps in front of a train because she is so depressed and overwhelmed by her bad choices after destroying her marriage by having an affair with a younger man.
[–]SlowJellyfish11 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
jumps in front of a train because she is so depressed and overwhelmed by her bad choices after destroying her marriage by having an affair with a younger man.
.... one life destroyed, but millions of lives saved - millions of happy women who cherish their husbands. Now, it's "thank u, Next"!!!!! I don't think a vagina is designed to be a clown car. If so, why does the outer package starts to wear down, get wrinkly, haggard after only a few years?
[–]8017350 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
loose-loose, too.
[–]DangZagnut162 points163 points164 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Women would rather be oppressed, than with losers.
It takes, on average, an abused woman 24 attempts to leave her "abusive" husband.
My source is an acquaintance that works in a domestic violence secret shelter, where they have to restrict all communication and lock up electronic devices because, even there, with shotgun wielding feminists guarding the door, these women will still call their abusers and tell them where they are.
[–]SupremeGentleman9277 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The craving for alpha male cock is too strong, doesn’t matter how much of a POS the person is.
[–]iamrivensky[S] 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
This is insane!
Well they all are anyways lol
[–]xevolverx7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can vouche for this. Ive seen abused woman shelters they literally have to keep searching through everything. I was banrd even thpugh i was fundraising for them. But they had no problem contacting a guy that admitted to murder.
Was kind of my ultimate black pill.
[–]Mundane_Batrachian41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It only seems fucked-up until you understand the feminine psyche.
They don't want weakness, it's the one thing that disgusts them.
[–]liveyourbestlife837 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The female thought process doesn't involve logic or thinking things through to it's conclusion. It's all rash emotional decision making that's conflicted
[–]Jarin01-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To a woman her emotions are God. Nothing matters more than how she feels in that moment.
[–]Whirrlz0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But when a white knight comes in and beats up the abusive boyfriend, the girl still prefers the abusive boyfriend. How? Why?
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my experience, women also like the excitement of a "project". A strong guy with his shit together won't feed into their drama the same way an abusive bad boy with a drug problem will. In the latter situation, the woman can also elevate her value to that of a "saint" for trying to save him.
Not that it makes her a saint, just an idiot. Trying to get that through to my sister.
[–]Mundane_Batrachian0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
>implying
[–]TheRabbitTunnel98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"Capitalism is an evil system that only rewards the most immoral people of our society!"
"Lmao if youre not successful in our capitalist system, youre a fucking loser"
-Basically all liberal women
[–]EdwardSandchest0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah. I think the 2nd part is a lie, I guess you think the first part is, but it sounds like we both agree that society is built on lies.
[–]TheRabbitTunnel0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is the second a lie? Its obviously a bit of an exaggeration, but its true that many people think that success means lots of money, despite thinking think capitalism is flawed.
[–]swaite58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Which is exactly why they should have just stayed in the kitchen.
Women ruin the entire dynamic of competition in modern society. Men don't want to compete against women. Winning against a woman does nothing for a man, and it just makes the woman feel like shit. When a man loses against a woman, it makes the man feel like shit, and the female loses all respect for the man. That's a lose-lose, IMO. We don't need that. We need strong, happy women in our society.
Consider male-male competition in opposition to this. One man wins, the loser rightfully feels like shit and the winner feels like... a winner. The loser recognizes his place in the pecking order and life carries on. This is the order of nature and women are fucking it up bigly.
[–]Itisforsexy18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its not just about pecking order. Perhaps in the past it was static, with classes of people. Lords and nobles, peasants and serfs. But now there real mobility. Losing should motivate you.
[–]throw-away-1402147 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've competed against women in most of my professional life and I thoroughly enjoy keeping them and other men under by boot. But I'm a sadist, so I might not be representative.
[–]eingebrannt29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They hate losing, but they hate it more to be with a loser.
[–]Dark-Aii9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cognitive dissonance?
[–]RPDunkleBomb11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The logic does not have to follow if you're female; they can simultaneously hold two conflicting beliefs and not see an issue with it.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
what about the 55 other genders?
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[–]CeleritySteam2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is 1 gender and 54 mental disorders.
[–]Supersonic_staples-4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair (and split hairs), there is a third, it’s rare but hermaphrodites do exist in nature.
[–]Boruzu2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well at least a tranny has the upper hand in the culture wars as they currently stand. So they kind of defy the whole thing this chick is talking about y cheating.
[–]WallStreetMedic16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait, why were they wrestling in the first place?
[–]sacocrapninja42012 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol call me whatever but I love to see a system that does it's best to give equal opportunity. However, that does not mean I approve of entitlement, I beleive we all care too much about other people really. I mean, when's the last time I gave a care about what someone else did or said. I can't even remember it's been so long. That's what I believe mgtow is, just as it is written. Men going their own way- being sovereign- not making an argument for why men are this or that- just disengaging from the argument itself.
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[–]whyserenity3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nowhere does anyone argue our current system has equal anything anymore. The crazies destroyed that long ago.
[–]ToddTheOdd12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I'm gonna be hated either way, I'd rather be hated as an oppressor.
[–]bfte212 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only winning move is not to play.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"No win"? Nah, fuck that. If I'm an "oppressor" that means I'm winning. And that's fine with me.
[–]realitymeetirony6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Janice has out did herself yet again. She is one of the few existing females that will actually speak the truth.
[–]Dark-Aii2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But why speak out NOW? And why P-PA-PA-PAST her prime?
[–]SupremeGentleman921 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly, no point in salvaging her plantation at this point, should’ve virtue signaled when she was a tight young college chick.
[–]Wandering_Jue2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is there any scenario where it is okay for women to speak the truth?
[–]realitymeetirony0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is well past her prime I agree with that. I am not sure I just know she is a long time supporter. But your right she could have just gotten that way after she hit the wall. It may be a tactic to garner lost male attention due to an evaporation of her looks. I personally do not have anything to do with any women no matter what they are saying. Best policy is to just stay away. LOL.
[–]voncloft224 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I give no fucks what a woman thinks if she throws the first punch I will fight back, fuck society and their views. I refuse to be a doormat, if I'm seen as a jerk so be it.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Who cares she is virtue signalling because she is an ugly bitch and she is just being a Chameleon in order to get male approval and attention.
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She's in damage control mode basically
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[–]liveyourbestlife834 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women want to have their cake and eat it too. Simply we can't win if we play by their rules.
[–]MuleFool424 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Janice is awesome. She gets it and is one of the few willing to speak out against feminism.
[–]fickle_fuck3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed! I'm a big fan of her YouTube channel.
[–]corytrevor7103 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We just need to own the oppressor thing. They don’t believe us when we say we’re not oppressing anyone or even worse say that we’re the ones oppressed. The difference is we don’t sit around complaining that we’re oppressed, we will move forward and escape this shithole clown world. So go ahead call us oppressors, much more comfortable than under heel for wahmans
[–]AeternusDoleo3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And they don't realize the message they are sending to men: "If you don't want to be a loser, you need to be a violent oppressor."
Careful what you wish for.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol I was like 14 when I realized this was true for arm wrestling.
I learn the key is to let them win, but make it obvious that you're letting them win. And if she doesn't like that, dont bother.
[–]isverydiffic4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would argue feminism gave women the ability to choose their "oppressor". Anecdotally I know more self employed women than men.
[–]markhamONT2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So men are in a lose-lose position.
[–]throw-away-1402142 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only if you care about the whining
[–]dollarbillgains2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen to that
And when men drop out of the said ‘culture’, they gain freedom, their own time and space. Do this often enough and people just might change their opinions on what men are.
But I’d still do my own thing.
[–]Schazzam2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminists are just pissed that men either own everything or can take everything by force.
[–]drwaterbuffalo2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is what people mean when they say toxic masculinity. You shouldn’t be expected to be able to beat up a woman
[–]Jerminator772 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who TF is out here wrestling all these women?
Not wrong though.
[–]Twistypete2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. If women don't make as much money as men, they are being oppressed. If men don't make more money than women, then they aren't "Economically attractive" and it's men's fault women can't find men making more ones than them to get married to.
Women are like bad gamers that turn on Godmode, then complain that the game is boring and has no challenge.
[–]Raider_Scavver1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not about whether you win or lose, it's about whether you play the game.
[–]GiantSizeManThing1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is that an Andy Kaufman reference? RIP to the world inter-gender wrestling champion.
[–]Atton_Risk1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only way to win is not to give a fuck
[–]belzeb0t1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guess I'll go be an oppressor then
She's virtue signalling here unless she is a rare unicorn but AWALT so who knows.
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Old lady looking for attention.
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