I have been reluctant to post here, but I think this will be of interest to the community. How many of y'all watched the Netflix special Dave Chappelle comedy come back tour double event? I think the line he dropped about marriage was the most powerful moment of the entire series. I honestly don't know if this video will get taken down or this post deleted.
Dave Chappelle: Marriage is Nothing but an Awful Contract You Shouldn't Sign https://youtu.be/3ZYw6UnZuoE
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He walked away from one lucrative $50 million contract that would have stifled him and he lived his life on his own free terms while spending his already somewhat limitless money and then zipped into another $50 million contract on his own free terms. The power to walk away...
As a kid I always thought he was crazy for doing that. Only now do I see the genius. And you know what he was smart! He made himself more attractive, people always wanted more Dave after that. Brilliant move and a great teachable moment.
He said he had about $10M in the bank and he was at a restaurant and saw a guy worth $100M. He realized the guy was eating the very same entree as he was. So if he kept doing what he didn't want to do, and got to $100M, his life wouldn't really change.
So he just didn't show up for work the next day. "You know, it’s like getting divorced in the ’50s. People didn’t go to divorce court. They looked at their wife like, ‘Baby, I’m going to get a pack of cigarettes. I’ll be right back.’ And they just leave with the clothes on their back and make a go of it. There wasn’t even internet back then. You could move 11 miles away and have a whole new life.”
Source - David Letterman show, 2014
I always explain this to people on the difference between making 50k a year vs 200k. Both people likely work 9-5. The only real difference is the guy making 200k drives a little nicer car and might have a little bigger house. But do these two people really live that different of lives?
Edit: Maybe 200k was too much let's try 100k haha. Either way the idea is paychecks aside they commit the same number of hours. Meanwhile someone who can make 30k a year while not working at all to me would be very wealthy.
At 200k a year you can start looking at early retirement, investing to accumulate real wealth, multiple foreign vacations a year, etc.
200k a year man also has a better quality of life as soon as he punches out. His network of people makes it that he usually calls a few numbers to find professionals who will do everything they can( including bend their schedules) hoping to do better or bigger jobs for him or his contacts. He also doesn't mind seeing prodessionals of every field before things becomes major,out of hand, or require time off. He also gets calls on huge deals since they know he can buy right now( also because luxury stuff depreciates fast so saving are huge).He buys the right stuff to unwind in the middle of the week if he has to. 50k man needs to run around on his own time to buy stuff on sale, call and find decent professionals who will squeeze their appointment somewhere if it's urgent or said professional will schedule it 2 to 4 weeks later. They also end up planning ahead to buy or rent what they need to unwind.
It all becomes a matter of how you value your time to save the same15% and what you do with it.
Yeah the lifestyle wouldn't change (if the person earning 200k a year was smart at least), just the speed and which they reach independent wealth.
I spend way way way less than I earn, because I like being able to walk away from anything, and you don't get to do that if you don't have a nest egg or your own money out there earning enough returns for you to live on.
In the span of 8 years I went from $70K to $200+ by changing jobs and location. It has meant sacrifice on my part, but if I hadn't made the change I would not be looking at a comfortable retirement at the end of 2018.
I work in an industry that can be very dangerous (oil & gas), and do 12 hour shifts on a 72 hour cycle, with at least 500 hours of overtime per year.
I expect the end result to be debt free and enough coming in to put me in control of what I want to do, instead of being a slave to everyone else.
Depends.
If the 200k guy spends all his money and lives paycheck to paycheck, then he's no different than the 50k guy.
I lived in India half my life. There is a very clear class system here. If you're a postman, for instance, you're likely making about 1/10th of what my middle-class father makes.
The postman would call me "Sir" and wouldn't hang out where I hang out - he just can't afford it.
When I first went to the US to stay with my brother before heading off to college, he took me to the local bar. My brother makes about $120k+, which is a lot of money in suburban Atlanta. At the bar, he met a guy, they chatted up.
When he finished, he told me that this guy was his postman.
That was the biggest surprise for me about the US. That there was no real "class system" here (there is, but it's nowhere like the rest of the world). A bus driver, a plumber, a postman can eat and drink with an PhD or a banker.
People that make 200k do not work 9-5 the same way a secretary does
I work in mortgages and see dozens of examples like this daily.
Fact: the guy making more is not living any different until you reach 400k, that's when good money management will make you live like Scarface, their lives are automated. We as a mortgage company do not even speak to these people directly when they're buying homes, they have assistants they pay to do this work for them.
There is a third tier, the multimillionaires, these people are on a level incomprehensible to us, jetsetting businessmen forging industries internationally, they can afford the world but they are the most stressed out people I have ever spoken with, they're the first to complain about a five hundred dollar fee, tier 1 and 2 never complain but these guys bitch and moan like they're living paycheck to paycheck. Always getting divorced. It comes full circle no matter how much you make.
On the flip side my dad makes around 450k a year and lives almost pay check to paycheck because he's the ultimate beta and decided to be captain save a ho to young hottie (15 years younger) whom has 3 young kids (all under 15 currently) from one guy and then decided to impregnate her with 2 more after getting married. All while living in gigantic home in the burbs for a good school, and pays for 2 60+k car payments for him and said ho. Who will eventually dump him, and rake him some serious money on top of her new tits she already got. Don't be my dad if you make that kind of change, I know I'm not. 450k surprisingly isn't a lot of money when its spread out over 7 people living above their income level. It pisses me off to no end because he literally could set himself up for life of not having to work instead supports all of these people.
Finally someone who understands. Like I understand you can buy more things with 150k more a year but at the end of the day you still work M - F for a living. You might get a few more vacations and financial stability but lives are hardly different. These are the people in thinking about. Getting to the Fuck you money level.
I used to make $50k and now make $100k. Totally different. I feel more financially secure.
Yeah, went from 13.50 an hour to 38.50 overnight by switching to a new career field and moving.
Day to day life, not EXTREMELY different, but definitely noticeably. Free time was the big change, Much less of it, but during my limited amount, I can do whatever I want with no real consequences, even if the things I do are stupid.
50k to 100k is a huge difference. 100k to 200k much less so. Sure, I can sock away more at 200k, but day to day difference really isn't much.
At 50k, you are trying to get by. At 100k+ you are getting by just fine as long as you aren't paying off an ex wife. The getting by part doesn't change much until you hit wealth, which has more to do with savings than income.
I used to make $50k and now make $100k. I feel the same.
studies show happiness grows noticeably with increase in salary up to about $75,000/yr and after that increases in happiness are less noticeable as salary increases.
Yeah the key is time. Make enough to not have to work and your on a whole new level of wealth.
Not the same comparison. While some may agree that whether your income is 200k or 50k, your lifestyle is unaffected, the difference between the 2 is extreme. 200k is high class, and those that make 200k generally know how to spend their makings on what they really need/want rather than pointless shit that offers no value but "seemed like a good idea at the time". 50k guys are absolutely able to live a decent life if they can properly manage their money, but I doubt many who make 50k really understand the idea of proper spending, time managment etc. therefore not having the lifestyle that 50k could potentially earn you. There are obviously exceptions to those generalizations Dave's idea is similar but the scale is different, the difference between 50k and 200k lifestyles is much much greater than the difference between 100 million net worth and 10 million (again, MOST of the time). This is due to the fact that with 10 million, already the highest quality(well almost but close enough) products are affordable, so with 100 million it's the same life basically.
Nah i disagree. I actually made a boat load of money(international contracting) and then lost everything. Got back on my feet and realized that time was the only thing i couldnt get back. I couldn't get back that decade of sleepless nights and long work days, planning and preparing. Missed time with freinds and family and surpassing momentary gratification for the long haul. Stress by the boat load. I had some nice things. Most of which are gone. I had some nice women. ALL of them are gone. Ironically started living a better quality of life when i made less and had more time and personal freedom. The hottest women ive been with have been laid with out all the flashyness. I also know now that money and material shit comes and goes in the blink of an eye. You have to find happiness in all aspects of life. More money really does equal more problems but being broke ain't no fun for anyone. I digress. My millionaire freinds and family eat the same Pizza hut as everybody else. Drive to the store in a 200k car but still pay the same price for gas as everyone else. Fly first class just to land at the same time as everybody else. If your talking moments of luxury, yes things are different. But only on the surface If your talking respect from peers... there is less because everyone smiles with one hand out and another behind their back. The Instagram pictures looked awesome though.
The guy making 200k is likely working 60+ hours a week unless it's passive income of some sort
This is so ignorant and why there's so much class envy. No, the person making $200k a year does NOT work just 9-5. They're generally on call 24 hours. Some days they come home from the 9-5 part only to crack open the laptop and continue working. We work with people on the other side of the globe, so there are 3AM meetings at times.
The ignorance in your statement makes me livid. It's evidence of how lower classes see upper classes. Anyone can choose to work 90+ hrs a week to make $200k. If you just want to make $50k, then work 9-5 and don't bitch about gradually growing poorer.
Depends on the field. Some of my friends make that much money (one considerably more) and they work 9-5 bar crunch time if they planned poorly. If you work in a high skilled field and are good at what you do you can make a lot of money with regular hours.
That being said, I know many at my level which is still good money who put in 60+ hour weeks.
Peterson touches on this topic in this talk : https://youtu.be/8ABa4RdNPxU?t=2368
(The whole video is good)
If you are working 90+ hours to make 200k you are a fucking idiot.
So much this. A lot of people who are coasting in life like to bitch about how much someone else is overpaid for just 'sending emails, talking, writing code'. What they don't realize is that someone might be on call pretty much all the time. That is a tradeoff that not everyone would be willing to make.
I make 200k and work 9 to 5, no laptop at home. There are literally thousands of us.
Maybe off topic but this reminded me of a time when I saw a car full of goth kids in a Honda Civic. They looked so out of place in a car that isn't a hearse.
Uhh...abso-fucking-lutely?
Are you serious dude?
Location seems to be a huge factor in your ridiculous comment.
I don't get what you're trying to say here. Sure they work the same hours for different sums of money.
Please clarify. I'm not debating I want to understand though.
And ironically, walking away was the absolute BEST thing he could have done for his career. Years later his shows sell out instantly, and he still has the respect and admiration of millions of people around the globe. Funny, that.
Well he walked away due to principles and the fact they probably wanted to take his show in a direction he didn't like. Absence makes the heart grow fonder is kind of what happened. People were so anxious to see him come back.
They probably would have made the show canned and corny. In an interview he said that some people on the show were trying extremely hard to get him to dress up as a woman. He didn't want to do it and they told him that "all the [black] greats" did it. They really wanted him to cross dress and I think that it rubbed him the wrong way and he realized that he could end up being forced to do things like that.
I remember when he said this. Hollywood does this to send a message and Dave was not having it.
Also they really like fucking with black people. Look what they have done to the women with the nanny state worse part of feminism and locking the shit out of the men. Then some black kid sees his hero pretending to be a woman. I'm sure that tweaks virgin males in some weird ways.
This is exactly why he was saying that everybody THINKS they can relate with black people because they're a snowflake, but they really can't
This is exactly why he was saying that everybody THINKS they can relate with black people because they're a snowflake, but they really can't
Bullshit. Its everyone. Blacks are just more sensitive about everything.
I can't remember what I saw or if it was several different sources, but I have heard of people complaining about making black men dress up as women at some point in each man's respective career. There is some sinister shit behind it, apparently. I don't like it, either. I don't think men should be dressing up like women 99.999% of the time in comedy.
https://youtu.be/MtPtr8aMtXs
That episode without him showed where they were heading. And that episode had a few amazing sketches, but the rest were mediocre at best.
Sure. But his actual quality is dead. He is back for the money and his absence has allowed him to return to the tune of $60m but he hasn't tried at all with these specials. He openly said when I watched him last year he couldn't give a fuck and is back just to get paid.
Chappelle wasn't ever going to be "Chappelle Show" good again, or "Killing Them Softly" good. That said, his new stuff is damn good. Comics age, and most elite ones are retired from standup by 40. Chappelle is still out there doing it.
What? Carlin? Louie? Bill Burr? Patrice died at 42 and hadn't even entered his prime yet. And Chappelle went away for 10 years and just recently came back.
Emphasis on MOST. Carlin was the only ELITE guy on your list that was still kicking past forty. Frankly, old man Carlin was, in my opinion, significantly better than young Carlin. As he aged he grew even more cynical, and his age became part of the comedy. Patrice was damn good, no one called him Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, etc good. Those are elite comics. Patrice is a guy who has a loyal fanbase(I'm part of that), but he was never truly able to take that talent, and get it out to the masses. Some of that was because his message was far too tough for a widespread audience, but a lot of other guys have managed to take tough stuff and make it palatable to large audiences(Pryor was a guy who was great at that).
Fuck you talking about? Dave Chapelle is still a phenomenal comedian.
Personally I'm disappointed with his quality from his recent return.
He's in a different stage in his life now. He's not a 30 year old kid on the come up
Completely agree-- he's definitely weaker in his recent return. He just doesn't have that natural flow that he did with his original skits.
More importantly: he has the respect of his peers.
In creative industries, especially those with traditions about 'authenticity' like comedy, that matters a LOT.
Watch how comedians talk about Jerry Seinfeld. Besides the success of his show, they all have a LOT of respect for him because he quit when the show was at its peak and walked away from a lot of money
There isn't an overabundance of him in the media.. So you wanna seek him out. Like music before the internet.. You really wanted to buy music and listen to a band, exchange tapes, figure out how to do all that... Now rverything is at your finger tips and you don't want it
Didnt realize his situation but there is a name for this:
Fuck you money
Cant beat it with a stick (so I hear, I still have work to do. Stay tuned bitches)
For many men there is also the
fuck you lifestyle
Figuring to what it takes to live, and live well, on much less. Once the excess expenses of a resource sucking mate are removed, it is easier than most men think.
I'm gonna give that some thought. Not that I disagree but I wonder if we are using different words to say same damn thing.
Probably the same thing. Here's an example:
Assume, a guy has been living good with income over 120K. Pays mortgage on McMansion, 2 nice cars, all the nice stuff. He's saving too, but at the end of the month, the 10K a month income is all spent or spoken for. He has a place to live and a nice car to drive. Gets food and clothes. He's buying wife clothes and food and a nice car/SUV for her and all the expenses she creates. The reality is he is getting the benefit of a very small percentage of his income.
He walks away. Gives 1/2 his income to her till the kids are grown, and even gets the shaft with some short term alimony.
Now he lives cheap. Nice, small, low cost apartment. Trades in the BMW for a Honda. If he works it right, he can actually end up with more money left over at the end of each month.
So yes, he doesn't have a huge stash of "fuck you money", but he does have at least few hundred dollars that only he can get at. With that he has his "fuck you lifestyle" by virtue of being willing to walk away, and live on less, and enjoy the freedom.
With that mentality, any time a man leaves the house, he does not have to come back. Freedom.
In another post, I made the comment that I never got outside without my wallet and my keys...
EDIT: Maybe it could also be called a "fuck you mentality"
Edit #2:That is what I did at the end of my first marriage. I walked out the door with only my keys and my wallet, and never came back. I did have a small stash of cash, that was pitiful, instead of plentiful.
yup, ive seen it here and in real life....women are parasites and giving 50% ONCE can be a fair price to pay. A man can rebuild.
on another note old man:
I had one boomerang back recently.
reason for return?
she told me she didn't have enough asshole in her life.
hahhaaha...cant make this shit up if u try
Blackdragon wrote an article back in 2015 about this, stating that getting divorced actually was financially cheaper than remaining married.
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2015/12/10/being-married-is-very-expensive/
In the 48 Laws Of Power on making yourself elusive.
To his credit, he is mad talented.
In the last special, it was nice watching him accept that. He constantly refers to himself - "But I'm Dave Chapelle, so I can get away with that shit"
Any idea what his networth was when he walked away from his show?
Abundance mentality at its finest.
It's abundance mentality sure but he basically retired himself over his principles. It's hardly abundance at that point.
if you like dave you should check out his inside the actors studio. it's really good and gives more insight into this
Comedians (especially racial minorities) are the only ones who can deliver red pill knowledge to the mainstream without being ostracized.
https://illimitablemen.com/red-pill-comedy/
It's because comedy is an extreme form of a sprinkle of truth that shouldn't be taken too seriously, typically. With red pill it's the fullblown truth. He blasts the audience with red pills and none of them actually swallow it. They just let it dangle in their mouth and spit it out laughing.
Makes his audience sound entirely female.
That's because everyone thinks they're joking.
I disagree. It's more like, they know deep down, the joke is the truth. Just look at how much Bill Burr kills it with his jokes and it's all unadulterated red pilled stuff. Comedians just tend to deliver it in a comical way that makes everyone laugh at the absurdity of it.
Muthafuckas couldn't be more serious..
Being black also helps. Although it might be offset by the simple fact that he is a man. Black community used to be less politically correct. Unfortunately the new crop of black college kids have adopted SJW ideologies.
I think it's two-fold. Some actually realize it to be true, but laugh, reject, and act as if it isn't because they're following societal rules. Similar to 48 laws' think as you like, but act as others or whatever it was. They know it's the truth, but it's taboo to just run around shouting red pill stuff. It's just rules of the game.
Others truly think it's absurd. These would be those still in the blue pill. I know before trp, when I would hear jokes like Chappelle's or Burr's, I'd laugh because I thought it was rediculous. "Women aren't really like that, he's just joking." I truly thought what they were saying was absurd and that's where I found the comedy in it.
Chappelle is a pretty funny guy and his Netflix specials are great entertainment. Even if he is married, his point that aside from religious or romantic considerations, modern marriage is an insane idea is completely valid.
Chris Rock also railed against marriage, and look what happened.
I have a feeling there is great unrest in the Chappelle household, lol.
Eddie Murphy railed against marriage too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4sEBb2K3s I want half eddie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SniOXFhwIZ8
The "what have you done for me lately" bit is classic
Best line of the show is when he meet the juice. Nicole brown is flirting with him and Dave says. "Bitch are you trying to get us both killed"
I tell you this shit is nothing more than a population control scam, encourage faggots and trannies to follow their dreams, inflate egos so husbands and wives can't tolerate each other, indoctrinate casual sex is okay for all to destroy satisfaction of monogamy and instill the feeling of missing out to young guys so they will run after sex while giving leverage to less logical sex on courts so they can destroy males' life on their whim. After you destroyed males' will for marriage, show how hard it is to be a single mom, make abortion and contraception cheap. Population will control itself in years in developped countries. Undevelopped countries will continue to fuck like rabbits but who cares when you can wipe them out periodically with wars while actually making money out of their misery? Fucking future looks hopeless.
Is your end goal a family(with Approved girl) or fuck bitches vasectomy route or will you go for the middle ground like Ronaldo(kids from surrogate).
Ronaldo is an inspiration to us all.
India is interesting. A billion people and its becoming totally fucked beyond previous measurements. My take is that the global elites don't give a fuck and just want to scoop up a billion people into the shittiest dystopian biometric cashless system. They will be made to suffer for as long as necessary until they sign up and the system finds a way to function with the corruption so that when the system limps out of this in many years then it will be a done deal. Then, the next billion get brought into it...
India has just like China carefully and jealously constructed a narrative about their country as being enlightened and spiritual. So hippy chicks, "ya India is great" (but has a REAL 'rape culture'), etc.
Yes, you are so right. I am Indian and I can vouch to what you are saying. The Rape culture is integrated in our school syllabus. In 1st grade we have Rape101 where we learn that it is our birth right as men to rape. In second grade we have Rape102 , we learn that all white people are like saints and respect women so much and we do not have to be like them.
While India has been doing great in terms of removing the rape problem, you have to at least agree that there is, or until very recently has been one. In the more rural areas. Of course the term "rape culture" is overblown, but India definitely has a rape problem.
So does US, Sweden, UK, etc. The propaganda here is to tell the world that Indian men are rapists. These idiots who pretend to care so much about India's rape problem don't know has no idea about rape problems of their own country.
PS: I am not talking about the fake rape allegations which is also a trend amongst attention seekers in India nowadays .
Damn i didnt realize it had gone this far. Whats next?!?!
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You went to school. The articles discuss how the many people beneath you barely exist in your mind.
I once met an Indian in Europe who told me that many Indians were upset and that he was upset with the movie Slumdog Millionaire because it depicted to many people that India was only a poor country. I was shocked because when I was living with my Sikh friend in California he had the Indian channel and every night he would watch a single Indian movie about some extremely rich families and one variation after another of pre-marriage issues. So there is the very typical Indian mind, only caring about the perception of the tribe. If the larger world wanted to see another piece of shit canned Bollywood movie about marriage then it would have happened already. Then one very cool movie breaks out because it is about something interesting and the struggles of life (not just ultra rich life) and it is met with resentment.
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Of course that is Sarcasm! India is a secular nation and Indian schools don't have religious studies.
Well besides Catholic convent schools that is.
Woah I had no idea about the currency ban. I'll read up on it and see what my foreign exchange friends think. That's actually insanity though, and there aren't any ready replacements (ie bitcoin).
From what I understand in India there are a hundred million people (if not more) who are too literally stupid or uneducated or both to even understand the concepts. The elites would know better than to pull this shit on some other random billion people on the planet so suddenly and although the masses are suffering and taking their Hindi plight as fate the administrators and populace are likely too corrupt to implement this plan (its already failing but we'll have to see if it fails to the point of collapse). This was a stupid as hell idea and probably the best thing that could happen for humanity is for a biometric cashless hell hole to outright fail to the point that not even the computers work.
Umm if you are American.. Look into how your financial crisis happened in 2007 (inside job) and how it affected the world and then tell me how stupid you aren't.
Similar shit was playing out over continents. The entire world is simply all doing the same funny money thing with the Rothschild families dominating the European, American and Japanese systems. Your misinformed if you think that Japan and China weren't playing with infinite bubble money. Have you seen Chinese real estate? Its simply the largest house that dictates the precise moment when it collapses. If a smaller country pulls a plug then guess what? Nothing, just that little country goes to shit. When the US pulls the plug then they bring it down on demand. Same shit and ALL of the banks are tied into the same exact BIS system and are running on the same exact mathematical model pioneered in England (when the Rothschild family took it over). There are a shrinking number of countries not integrated into the BIS system and from 2000 onward that small list shrank considerably (all of the countries attacked, destroyed and converted were on a different banking system). None of this makes India not populated by incredible numbers of superstitious ignorant fucks.
India was doing quite well at that time.
You are simply screaming wolf.
What does this have to do with Chapelle and his viewpoints in that vid? You went Alex Jones on us.
I think it's more of seeing an opportunity to make money off people who are victimized/oppressed etc and giving them what they want. Gay/trans people have alot of purchasing power and there's plenty of money to be made whether it's gender reassignment surgery or buying an entire new wardrobe.
I think the governments motive in facilitating the feminists in destroying marriage is really about oppression. If men don't have stable family support structures it'll make it really hard for the lower classes to rise up in the ranks.
Faggots and trannies? Damn dude, kill yourself.
A whole another level of cuckery, white knighting for men.
Being a good person is white knighting to you? White knighting is when you defend someone regardless of whether or not they are wrong. For example if a girl slapped a guy for no reason and I defender her, that is white knighting. You saying faggot and tranny is just you being a fucking cunt.
I say again, kill yourself.
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The fuck? So he's allowed to say faggot but now I'm a terrorist for telling him to kill himself.
Alright bud.
Pure, distilled white knight, nothing more. Good Guy™
Yep, and you're a homophobic and transphobic piece of shit! :)
Heard somewhere that marriage used to be a security for men to secure their assets by leaving inheritance for their specimens. Love was not in the mix .
I watched both of his new specials since I'm a huge standup commedy fan, he even mentioned how Bill Cosby's rape victims had "8 hours of sleep in them" and how they were all "allegations" . He talks so much about how marriage is a bad contract, like you said. Like they say, you can say so much truth if you can make the people laugh. His jokes on feminists were point on to and female logic.
When he said "allegations," his tongue was firmly in cheek. "8 hours of sleep," was his way of making a joke during an uncomfortable topic. Did you miss him agreeing with the statement "women suffer," (while pointing out it is not the same as systemic racism against black people)?
He's been married since 2001 and has 3 kids, so that vid is just a performance.
His anti-marriage stance is about as credible as Rollo's (though I really enjoy Rollo's writing).
That's an ad hominem logical fallacy that has nothing to do with the merits of the claim but instead focuses entirely on the characteristics of the person saying it. The statement "smoking is bad for your health" is still valid, even if the person making the statement is a smoker.
He didn't use a noun as an insult towards Rollo or Chappelle so I wouldn't call it ad hominem. I would say its closer to a No True Scotsman logical fallacy. But as you said, Chappelle can be married and his anti-marriage stance is still credible.
Because OP was glowing about "powerful moments" and "bucking mainstream culture."
The merits of the claim stand on their own: do not marry
The merits of Dave Chappelle stand on their own: he's a good comedian.
But when married Dave talks about how you shouldn't get married, my paradigms shift without a clutch.
Also, it's perfectly natural to prefer advice from people who practice what they preach, don't you agree?
I think it's a trick of the mind to feel more comfortable with the consistency, but it has almost nothing to do with the truth of the claim being made.
Let's switch it around. If a guy told you that going to the gym is good for you, but he doesn't go to the gym himself, does that mean going to the gym isn't good for you? It is inconsistent that the guy would make the claim yet not follow through with his own advice; but that situation then necessitates the question, "why isn't he going to the gym?"
Either he doesn't go to the gym because he's lying about how beneficial the gym is, or there's some additional factors involved in his personal life that influence his ability or choice to go to the gym. If those personal factors have nothing to do with you, then the claim "going to the gym is good for you" is still valid, even if the person saying it doesn't go to the gym.
So sure, it requires less mental exercise to follow the consistency of people who practice what they preach; but the lack of practice doesn't inherently negate the truth of a declared statement.
Also, on the flip side, "trust me because I do it too" is not necessarily support for a claim's truthfulness either. If a murderer tells you that killing people isn't a crime, are you to believe him merely because his statement is consistent with his practice?
This is why a person's characteristics should be irrelevant when analyzing whether a statement is true or false. Ad Hominem and Appeal to Authority are both logical fallacies for a reason.
If Trump, Hillary, and Bernie Sanders all said that the sun rises in the east, but your instinct is to distrust the statement when said by some or trust it when said by others, then you have an underdeveloped skill in critical thinking.
Thank you for patiently explaining this. I still get angry that kids in my college philosophy class 15 years ago didnt understand modus ponens and modus tolens, how did they get into the same private school as me!!!
haha EXACTLY! I mean you're tall, smart, and handsome!
You are torturing the definition of ad hominem. Agree with your point, tho.
I'd say being married gives him first hand experience of the results of marriage.
Most men know that it's a shit deal, but they have misguided faith in themselves and the girl they are with (delusion plus oneitis). "She'd never do that to me, she's a great girl who isn't like that".
Do Not Marry
Anti marriage doesn't always bean pro divorce rape
Anyone would be stupid to refuse an offer that benefits them. Again, anyone would be stupid to sign a contract that fucks them hard and dry.
So we're agreed: men are romantic and stupid and women are opportunists.
Yet we live in a society where so many men do it anyway 😂
Perhaps, but he's definitely not some paragon red piller "bucking mainstream culture" like OP said.
He's a funny, observant guy making big money talking shit on stage, while not exactly practicing what he preaches.
Would be more plausible if he got a divorce.
But a married man complaining about marriage is much funnier than a single man complaining about marriage. If I went on stage and said "marriage is a terrible idea, that's why I never did it", would anyone laugh?
Rollo is not anti marriage. He is anti getting married in the current culture.
So he got married before culture and women went insane?
This insanity is pretty new. It started just in the 1980's with the onslaught of 3rd wave feminism.
So Rollo has been married since when?
His daughter is late teens I think.
Rumours currently swirling that he is separated and/or divorced.
Or maybe they are having trouble.
Who better to know you shouldn't get married than a married man?
He admits he is married, go watch the full clip you idiot.
Chappelle is alpha as fuck
He really isn't and says as much during his specials. He seems stoic, though. Shit happens, run with it.
He literally called himself a feminist during his special.
yeah i disagree. chappelle is not alpha, but he isn't beta. the strong points he seems to display are only racial advantages (he has your typical black guy level of freedom of speech. he can say what he wants and criticize what he wants more than almost any white guy would)
His special where he mentioned that was awesome. Always loved Dave Chappell and was uncertain if he still had "it", but he showed me that he still does. Definitely recommend everyone listen to it.
Marriage is a one sided deal today, laws has to be changed in order to make marriage appealing to men again, there is no wonder why divorce rates has increased so much over the years, with women filing divorce more than 70% of the cases.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/23/144-years-of-marriage-and-divorce-in-the-united-states-in-one-chart/
I just edited this post to include the latest development of the copyright strike
Dave chappelle will be making $60 million for his netflix special. here
http://www.businessinsider.com/dave-chappelle-salary-netflix-comedy-specials-deal-2016-11
Damn homie is jacked compared to the skinny crackhead / stoner I remember in the 90's.
Men who don't marry tend to get weeded out of the gene pool... but it's still a good idea not to marry, all things considered. Maybe that's how the powers that be want it.
I watched this yesterday, highly recommended
I watched it both of his specials and of course I was again impressed as hell with Dave Chappelle.
It's the first time we talked about that type of stuff to my recollection and the first time he's ever talked about his family and his wife.
l I highly recommend it
I watched both of them last night, classic!
Says the normie who has been with a woman
Also DC : "If you are getting married, get a dog, she wont always love you, the dog will"
You need to start moving away from Youtube and onto smaller platforms where your rights as a content creator and remixer are fully protected. Youtube and Google don't give two shits about you and will gladly sell you out at first chance.
From what I read when Chapelle quit his show, it sounds to me like he had some kind of meltdown or nervous breakdown.
You will not win this fight against YouTube, not for this content.
This is an extremely popular and hot bit of his NEW (keyword) Netflix Special. Netflix's business model relies upon revenue from recurring subscriptions, and doubtlessly they are hoping by shelling out $60M for 3 EXCLUSIVE (another keyword) specials from Chapelle they can get more subscribers, so doubtlessly:
I wouldn't fight it. It's totally copyrighted and not for your use in any way, shape or form.
Agree. Not going to Fight it. I did quite a bit of homework on fair use. There were several things I could have done better, which could have tipped the scale towards legal fair use. Thanks for the input
I don't think it's irrelevant to TRP - but it's a slow day anyway :D
Dave Chapelle is a funny one isn't he, seems like his "outrageous comedy" and Blackness make him hard to criticise and take down like they would anyone else...but I'm English and so not very knowledgeable about him.
dave chapelle is the shit. check out the dave chapelle show if you get a chance, his skits are gold. i still think its some of the best comedy ive ever seen and its been 10 years since the show ended
Yeah he seems witty.
I think he's done a Joe Rogan podcast, I'll check it out if I'm right.
He got married. Isn't he contradicting himself?
Tom Leykis got married FOUR TIMES. Sometimes, guys have to learn the hard way, but they want others to learn from their mistakes.
Never heard of him. Appreciate your comment nonetheless.
I'm confused about the whole situation. He talks numerous times about fucking other women but he has been married for over 10 years. Is he fucking on the side and his wife has accepted that or is he just talking shit?
Seems like unlike you, Dave's wife understands humor.
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Damn it, she trapped me! What an evil vixen!
Nah, she's just maximising her financial returns with a state-run long con.
When all of society your parents your family your friends and television and movies tell you that getting married is the correct thing to do it's not your own free will choosing it is years and years of influence and propaganda.
Is the one thing i might get out of marriage a license to beat her and cheat on her while keeping her pregnant?