You are not entitled to shit. She is not entitled to shit. One of these is reinforced by society.

EpicLevelCheater · 2017-04-10T23:55:49+00:00

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Sky_cutter · 2017-04-10T19:25:59+00:00

Thanks for this post. I really needed it.

I just went on a couple dates with a woman from Tinder. She looked pretty good and was funny. I was pretty touchy the whole time, she would smile and giggle a lot.

Second date I tried to kiss her, she wasn't having it, and said she just started using Tinder to make friends.

I was a bit surprised, but that's fine. I don't fault a woman if she's not attracted to me.

But she was surprised I was going for romance. Apparently?

When I said Nice Meeting you, good luck .... she was literally shocked that I didn't want to be friends with her ... like on the verge of tears. Like, she REALLY wanted to have a friend (just moved to this city). Damn, I still feel bad about it, for some reason. But I mean, damn, this is Tinder people ... shouldn't I be the one sad about being rejected?

Sigh ...

You're right though - I'm not obligated to be the emotional crutch. Damn though. So many weirdos out there ...

newName543456 · 2017-04-10T19:27:50+00:00

Remember. Chad isn't entitled to those sex acts either. Doesn't stop him from having them though. Know why and emulate.

brettfromtibet · 2017-04-10T19:24:02+00:00

Last Saturday I picked up a fairly attractive but very clingy woman. I felt like I was in a "serious relationship" from the way she was texting me for confirmation, validation and plans before I even set up the first date. It felt smothering and yucky. I ghosted. I don't owe her nothing.

NotUpToAnythingGood · 2017-04-10T23:59:57+00:00

Yep. I've got a plate who had become a time sink. She's dialed back the sex she was giving but expected me to continue giving her everything I was.

I gave her a few opportunities to change her ways. She declined to do so. I pointedly noted to her that it's a two-way street and as such, was renegotiating my part of the deal as it was no longer balanced & fair.

She's not happy with it because I rarely talk to her now, don't give her expert advice, or guidance any more. Quickly became apologetic after I went radio silent. She still hasn't fixed the situation on her end but she said she would. Acta non verba... I'll believe it when I see it from her.

TLDR: Being my plate/FWB comes with some nice perks. She didn't want to uphold her end of the bargain so they got taken away. She was informed of what needed to happen if she wants them back.

Sir_Distic · 2017-04-10T20:36:12+00:00

Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment.

Peter_B_Long · 2017-04-10T23:32:39+00:00

Yes, you should continue to improve and enhance your life daily so that you become someone that girls want to have sex with, but you do not need to change yourself into a 'person' that your partner will 'want' to have sex with.

You should simultaneously be improving yourself every day and also understanding that if you are not getting what you want out of the relationship, you can always leave and find another one who will give you what you want.

It's stupid and beta to say that you should change yourself for someone. You shouldn't change yourself for anyone. If you have an LTR and she stops having sex with you and stops giving you all the things she used to give you, you should leave her and find someone who will (assuming you keep improving yourself).

If you are in an LTR and your SMV goes down during the relationship and she stops being attracted to you and you aren't happy, you should still leave, but also accept the responsibility that it is your fault for not improving yourself and becoming less attractive.

Do not settle for mediocrity, especially when you are lifting, meditating, improving every day.

JackGetsIt · 2017-04-10T20:10:36+00:00

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tallwheel · 2017-04-11T02:41:36+00:00

My situation is that I am getting all the sex I want, however the amount of attention and affection my GF demands is more than I am usually willing to give. She has some serious abandonment issues and demands constant hugging, kissing, and attention.

In the end, the relationship isn't satisfying for me if I feel the amount of attention I am giving is not worth the sex I am getting. The relationship isn't reciprocal if I feel there is not a balance between each other's needs. I have felt for a while that I should end it.

On the other hand, I can't help that feel like I might be throwing away the best thing of my life. I've never had a woman who worships me to this extent. She cooks and cleans too...

surfingjesus · 2017-04-10T22:55:43+00:00

The double standard is real. The average woman today almost has a free pass at being a lazy fuckup. My favorite is how overweight women are now 'thick' and that is pretty much acceptable, and if you don't buy it, well you are gay or not a real man.

If you have an issue with stretch marks or period blood on her clothes, you are a misogynist with unrealistic expectations of what real women look like. Everything you do that challenges their self perception comes down to you not being a real enough man. And if that doesn't sound ridiculous enough, the majority of men will even defend this view.

TheRedStoic · 2017-04-10T22:36:46+00:00

Yup.

The only entitlement you have is to a transparently agreed upon contract. That's it.

Works both ways men, if you're not getting what you want, walk. Simply walk. There are others who will fight to give you what you want instead.

Z33ger · 2017-04-10T21:06:08+00:00

This is why men are starting to act like lady boys because they subconsciously realize that they can realize some kind of entitlement, hence safe spaces they are not form women specifically but for effeminate humans another reason why "gender" and "sex" are distinguished nowadays

The irony is that men who act like women don't actually receive the same treatment as women even though they can occupy safe spaces and receive "emotional support" it doesn't do shit to improve their quality of life because they fundamentally can't be dependent on others as adult men unless they're mentally retarded

[deleted] · 2017-04-11T03:49:41+00:00

When you spell it out so plainly it becomes very clear why marriage has become such a joke. You're supposed to promise that you'll do these things for each other even if you don't really want to.

A problem arises when one side is allowed to break the contract without repercussions. You're a horrible man if you expect her to have sex with you on demand. And you're also a horrible man if you withhold affection the same way she withholds sex.

MattyAnon · 2017-04-11T14:49:52+00:00

The University of Michigan defined withholding sex as violently abusive. Reported widely including:

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/19448/

They've since toned it down and removed a lot of it the content after the media outcry. But it's a good example of how far the SJWs / feminists / colleges will try to go to get men defined as abusers.

I wonder how many women they prosecuted for the violent abuse of withholding sex before they reworded it.

exit_sandman · 2017-04-11T23:27:15+00:00

Society has no problem drilling the first four points into the male psyche from the age of adolescence (or even younger, given feminism's pernicious advance into education). However, try to apply this to women and you will be labeled a misogynist, a neckbeard and a bitter loser.

Don't forget how it's usually presented: wanting sex is questionable, repulsive, cavemannish, objectifying. Wanting affection and emotional intimacy is romantic, sincere and valuing.

Guess which gender wants the one and which wants the other?

And this doesn't even take into account that men who crave emotional intimacy are oftentimes seen as whiny and clingy, while women who crave sex are presented as neglected and get pity for their partner who "can't do his job".

Alchemist_XP · 2017-04-11T06:41:40+00:00

Seriously what man honestly thinks they are entitled to these things? Women are fucking insane for assuming that's how we operate. It's just women who enjoy using men to make them do things for them, even though it's obvious a man is trying to become more than friends, then if you make her move and they don't want any of t, they throw that shit in your face. It's like, bitch if you don't want to be more than friends then make it known, don't play games and use me. Do you think I like wasting time and money on someone who has no interest in me? Fucking dumbasses

Sky_cutter · 2017-04-11T06:52:21+00:00

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ilikemychickenfried · 2017-04-11T00:01:57+00:00

Thank you so much for this

trpposter · 2017-04-10T22:37:25+00:00

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anotherent · 2017-04-10T23:28:34+00:00

so much truth to this- please keep posting.

[deleted] · 2017-04-10T22:03:17+00:00

Playing God's advocate here: aren't all the things you listed as being advocated for "her" more or less being advocated to all people, including men? It's just that men want those things less

AFuckYou · 2017-04-11T03:23:20+00:00

That's not how this works for me. I'm entitled. I don't play these stupid games.

Don't give me what I want, find someone else.

joc346 · 2017-04-10T23:18:06+00:00

Sounds like, "If we don't have sex, I'm giving you the cold shoulder." That'd be fucked up if this were the case in a relationship. Would you give a friend the cold sholder for not doing something you ask, for example moving into your new apartment? That shit would build resentment--if you're only my friend when I do stuff for you.

BassNet · 2017-04-11T02:54:54+00:00

you need to change yourself into a person your partner (or partners) will want to engage in X with

I disagree. You should not change yourself for your partner. You should change yourself because you aspire to be better, but not for your partner.

FairlyNaive · 2017-04-11T13:14:32+00:00

If you feel you're not getting X, the problem lies with you, and you need to change yourself into a person your partner (or partners) will want to engage in X with.

Or change a partner. Havent failed me once.

8n0n · 2017-04-12T06:24:39+00:00

Good post.

I think it helps to flesh out Covert Contracts (No More Mr. Nice Guy), when viewed from the party receiving demands from another party on a contract they did not knowingly sign (a girl demanding commitment from a man because they had sex, well the older girls that try to lock you down into a relationship).

Crush your inner beta by always keeping in mind: you owe her nothing. Never cave, never apologize and above all, never justify.

I prefer a more shamelessly selfish approach: what's in it for me?

Where me fails to make a decision, I then appeal to myself and I to ensure the total of votes (me, myself and I 'the three amigos') outnumbers the other party.

The three amigos are not parties with distinctive voices (there votes outnumber one, but one occupant is enough up there thanks) but a mental trick to assure myself that decisions I made are in my own best interests, and not blindly followed from an appearance of mutually shared interest, ego or irrationally from emotion (the 'where is this going' pillow talk after sex).

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Vestlerz · 2017-04-14T03:09:40+00:00

That was straight fire, nice piece man

Strider_Tolstoi · 2017-04-20T03:13:18+00:00

"you are not entitled to this or that".

Hmm, I kind of disagree this kind of mindset, it's just sounds too defeatist and many people will understand it that way, they will take it as a self-hating motto, like saying: "hey man, you aren't worth a shit, don't even keep trying".

Maybe I'm wrong or misunderstanding the point but that's how many people think and I quite dislike that, the things that I've achieved in my life (either big or petty) were done with what I think it is the exact opposite of the "unworthy" mindset. As far as I know I'm the most badass motherfucker in the world, If I think I'm entitled to something, for fuck's sake I will achieve it.

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cuntycuntcunts · 2017-04-11T05:29:19+00:00

WTF?!?! I DEMAND an ANAL BLEACHING PLACE IN EVERY TOWN AND EVERY CITY!

Foochoski · 2017-04-11T06:32:20+00:00

Excellent post, always refreshing to see a solid post on trp that isn't sexist but stands for true equality

sunole123 · 2017-04-11T00:47:06+00:00

I believe you are entitled to explanation. you are entitle of respect the other person's feeling. you are entitled to understand and be understood, and to walk away when looking at something in different way.

Macheako · 2017-04-11T00:09:53+00:00

Beautiful!!!!!! but one teeny tiny thing if I may: but you should always have a justification, but yea, they're NOT entitled to hear it, to know it, to see it, any a dat shit!

Title	You are not entitled to shit. She is not entitled to shit. One of these is reinforced by society.
Author	trpposter
Upvotes	950
Comments	183
Date	10 April 2017 06:26 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/42526
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/64ldav/you_are_not_entitled_to_shit_she_is_not_entitled/

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