Goodbye to Good Men

TRP_MushaShugyo · 2017-04-21T14:44:17+00:00

He was a guest on Joe Rogan's podcast not long ago- an amazing episode, watch it on youtube.

TryhardPantiesON · 2017-04-21T16:40:32+00:00

Thus, even though feminists demonize testosterone and have tried to lower it, they are actually increasing testosterone by creating a society where dark triad men pump and dump, get the women pregnant and get the hell out of dodge, while the truly good men have less success

Biology in action. Biology has been at its game for millions of years making sure that no matter what obstacle arises, there's a way to overcome it. It doesn't give a shit about the feminist tirades of the last 60 years. It hasn't even noticed them. Try to game the system and rig the outcome, shit, you'll get super testosterone laden men to either rise against the barricades or see the men replaced by foreign invaders who were never turned into sheeple. You can deny nature, but you can't stop it.

MattyAnon · 2017-04-21T17:23:44+00:00

He explains how modern feminized society demonizes testosterone and punishes boys for their masculine instincts. All the while women can't help being most attracted to the men with most testosterone.

This is exactly the case. Men are either whipped and subdued by our feminist society, or they ignore it and become masculine. The latter is rare. Very rare. There are very very few attractive men who are able to handle this shit.

Most men are either subdued or are aggressively (and unattractively) opposing it with ridiculous illusions of control. Abundance and social skills are more attractive than trying to control situations. Very few get this. Even fewer can portray this well. I know almost none.

Most guys side with women, either with the new style anti-male approach of "yeah, men are bad, men are privileged, women are oppressed and scared, women must be protected" or the old-style protective "women are delicate and weak and need to be supported and protected".

Old style or new style it's the same deal: preferential special treatment for women, and become weak betas in the process.

Sir_Distic · 2017-04-22T02:01:42+00:00

Dark Triad Alpha males attract women for a specific reason. They are not needy. Women despise neediness to their very core.

They give no fucks, so they don't NEED women. They want them for as long as they want them. Then move on. Women love being wanted but hate being needed. She doesn't want to be your mother, she wants to be your slut in the bedroom and your teenager outside it.

Whereas good guys need women. They want them and exist solely to please women. They secretly count how many nice things they've done for them (implied contract, No More Mr. Nice Guy). And feel they should earn pussy/love/acceptance from a woman by being nice and doing nice things. All while having VERY unnice thoughts. Violent revenge fantasies for example. They can't accept that not everyone is nice all the time. I can hold a door open for a lady, smile at her and say "You're welcome" when she thanks me. Or not give a fuck if she doesn't. I can also admit I like shoving a woman's head into the bed, holding her there by a handful of hair as I spank her ass while balls deep in her pussy. Knowing i'm going to coat her face and make her stay there while I snap a pic of it. Because I'm not always a nice person.

killermike-el-P · 2017-04-21T18:50:22+00:00

There are three outcomes. Outcome 1: Over time this society that demonizes men and puts men down will detoriate to a point in which men will finally say "fuck this" and take back control and society will go pack to a stable path. This outcome is long, hard and very unlikely.

Outcome 2: External factors test the society in which men within the society will have to take back control or else the society will fail or be replaced by another society. This is also unlikely.

Outcome 3:External factors overcome the society and after the dust has settled men of another society or various societies will be in control(as this is the default order).

Any of these outcomes will take a long time to come to a conclusion. I predict at least sixty years.

OneRedYear · 2017-04-21T23:11:31+00:00

Welcome to being a black man in america. We got thugs and lames. Chics wanna fuck a thug but marry a lame when they get old.

360_no_scope_upvote · 2017-04-22T02:12:59+00:00

This warning is from 2011 Canada.

They should have listened as 2017 Canada is about as effete as any society today

theONE843663 · 2017-04-21T14:11:17+00:00

A good man doesn't have to be good to women...that he be good to his fellow comrades shall suffice!

Anonyresearcher · 2017-04-22T03:41:57+00:00

I've watched 120 hours of Peterson and read his book.

And doing a degree in Evo Psych

Peterson is excellent.

His grounding in EvoPsych is shaky and based on old Evo Psych.

TRP is ok on the EvoPsych, far from excellent.

If David Schmitt is 10/10 over rice I give Jordan Peterson 5/10 over rice and TRP 7/10 over rice in Evo Psych.

JP is a much better person than the average poster on TRP though.

TRP whines about suffering.

JP bears it!

Canedude08 · 2017-04-21T17:00:14+00:00

The problem with his assertion is that he thinks it is a black and white thing. Remember, you have a ton of guys in the middle: solid, hardworking guys who are responsible. When women didn't have government to cover for them, those men would have been seen as prime marriage candidates, and women had to at least pretend to cater to those guys. Those guys ended up having children, and the circle continued.

[deleted] · 2017-04-22T04:02:23+00:00

Of course. I can not remember last time I was not rewarded for selfish anf entitled, and sometimes straight evil / psychopathic behaviour.

And every time I start feeling bad and selfish and I actually try to care about her feelings I het inevitably, used for resources, destroyed, cheated on, and left.

monkeycycling · 2017-04-21T20:17:55+00:00

he pretty much describes the red pill here https://youtu.be/7uYengUXFG0?t=1456

Philletto · 2017-04-22T01:23:30+00:00

You must never give a woman what she asks for. The emasculated bluepill culture is what women asked for. Its damaging to both women and men.

max_peenor · 2017-04-21T18:03:33+00:00

shiftless, low status males (AKA blue pill betas) and archetypal bad boys (AKA dark triad alphas).

And given the choice which would you rather be? Not really a tough one to answer for me.

chakijz · 2017-04-21T21:40:55+00:00

This man is a national treasure. I believe him on JRE was one the greatest podcasts, and he also has a ton of videos on youtube with great insight. What a smart man.

[deleted] · 2017-04-21T18:06:19+00:00

What are we going to do about it? Revolt? Civil war! War is man's true vocation in it?!

Merwebb · 2017-04-22T13:36:39+00:00

Maybe we are living in a massive shit test

itsawomensworld · 2017-04-22T15:24:16+00:00

Not sure that I love his arguing style. Ben Shapiro is far better. I watched an interview after this against a transgender guy and he didn't really impress me. It's really easy to destroy the transgender debtate and it was upsetting see the transgender guy say in this interview "I just type in the pronoun on my phone and look at it before I talk to someone" If you can't destroy someone in a debate that says that , you're not a very good debater.

Jax77789 · 2017-04-21T18:32:54+00:00

Dark triad simply means you understand the game. That's all there is too it. There is nothing "dark" about being "narcissistic" and requiring charged external stimuli ( psychopathy ) to react. The dark triad test does not measure for sadism or cruelty, it is hard to see what is "dark" in this. It is just unstupid. " Dark triad alphas", when you read this you imagine some vampire-like slayer.

"who were too far out on the psychopath spectrum to give a shit about the feelings of adults and peers ". Psychopathy is a condition that you are born with or that you get if you suffer a traumatic event in your life. It is a defect in the neural structure of your brain. You may be confusing psychopathy with stoicism and social strategy here( playing people like pawns).

What he says is that with Game and/ or High T ( more muscle mass), you slay. With no Game ( Beta faggots ) and/or low T ( Skinny Beta Faggots) you do not.

ShrimShrim · 2017-04-22T05:00:52+00:00

Content aside, this dude needs a new outfit. Holy shit, that hat.

[deleted] · 2017-04-23T15:58:12+00:00

America created this monster. Thus America sucks.

Brennus390 · 2017-04-21T16:46:51+00:00

What about the kids who didn't care and acted triad from the beginning? Guy I went to school with knocked up a college student when he was 14, breaks the law (and went to jail) regularly, has at least 4 brats by women he actively avoids now, and noticeably gave female "authority" figures the tingles.

How much of this can we really blame on socialization? I don't really think you can repress a natural alpha. He just played nice when he thought it would be in his best interests.

Cicuta · 2017-04-21T23:12:23+00:00

Young women are attracted to bad boys because before we were humans (and then perhaps for a while after that) their traits promised children that would thrive. (Given the context ability to beat up someone and stealing are great survival skills and feeds offspring.) In most of modern society those traits are not socially acceptable but the deep genetic signal is still there and she still responds to it. Today bad boy skips and mother looks around for help to raise bad boys kids. She finds good man to do it usually with the promise of a child of his own. (In the Black community bad boys abound and good men are rare so the government has taken over the good man role. It happens in the white community but less so. And women who only want one sperm and no relationship are raising a fan club.)

workunit13 · 2017-04-22T08:55:20+00:00

Someone video edit out the hat, but aside from that, this guy is absolutely brilliant. His podcast series is worth a listen too.

Willow-girl · 2017-04-23T02:58:19+00:00

Whew, glad I one before the supply ran out!

25toten · 2017-04-21T18:56:25+00:00

First off, something you need to understand about success is that it is rarely built by being honest and fair. I'm a lawyer. I fuck over people for rich people quite regularly to make rich people richer. I've got fourteen regular clients who thanks to me are able to save thirty to forty percent on subcontractors costs because I help them fuck over these saps who believe in being good and honest. Even after paying my legal bill at $125 an hour (it's that low so I get paid regularly and on time [one time one of them tried to flake on a bill and I cut the cord o them, made them pay a steep non-refundable fee to get me back]). They still have save tens of thousands of dollars. In essence, free money. The subcontractors get fucked. Sometimes personally bankrupted (owners of the business). But life carries on because they subcontractors aren't going to man up and kill my clients. Nope, not a chance in hell.

Additionally, most people are weak and pathetic. They won't do shit if you fuck them up or fuck them over. The rare few will engage in petty simple violence. But that's the best they got. And plenty of women love an asshole that lifts and achieves success. I've fucked more than a few feminists in the BDSM scene over the years. They talk about patriarchy in public, and I'm putting a collar and leash on them while fucking them and forcing them to bark every time I pound an orgasm out of them, eventually forcing them to howl. And they fucking love it. They think it's a game and laugh about it.

Only God can judge you. Humans are chattel, meat, fuck bags, victims, fools, pawns. Prey accordingly.

Xenunir · 2017-04-21T23:13:39+00:00

Joe Rogan's Podcast from Nov. 28, 2016

NotNormal2 · 2017-04-21T18:23:39+00:00

Nature finds a way. We need to jail these heavy testosterone men. Prevent then from breeding their genes.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-04-21T14:01:59+00:00

Psychology was made up in the last fifty years.

He may be Red Pill or not (didn't watch the video) but his field is clearly not a Red Pill area of research.

For him to be making any Red Pill sense he will be working against his profession which is designed to sedate and pacify beta males into their role as slaves. The psychologist assists the process of making men beta.

Title	Goodbye to Good Men
Author	ShrinkingShadows
Upvotes	778
Comments	138
Date	21 April 2017 01:56 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/42737
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