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Man works himself to death for his family, still treated like a shit.

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Klldarkness
July 11, 2017
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Literally!

This is the type of treatment men can expect in society these days. This man worked 16hrs a day, 7 days a week, to provide for his family. Instead of being appreciated, he was relegated to the COUCH.

His wife felt he was working too hard. Never home! So one day he comes home, not to a hot meal, or a loving family, but a bitch wife that gives him even more stress.

Feels before reals in action!

She even stated in the interview that he worked this hard just to take them to Disneyland every year.

The article isn't about the man at all, in the end. It's all about how the wife feels about the argument they had before she went to bed, how horrible she feels that her last words to him were in anger.

Instead of talking about the dangers of over working, or how men are constantly stressed, it's all about her.

It's actually disgusting. Even in death, it'll all be about "her".

Let this be your wake up call, if you haven't swallowed the pill just yet.

You will never earn 'her' appreciation. Work for yourself, and your future! Every dollar you spend, is time spent. Don't waste your time, or money, on others. Be the best version of you that you can be, and make sure that you're the one profiting from it.

Thanks to /u/RedPilledGodEmperor for sourcing this:

This chick is now FUCKING the dead husband's brother. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

Complete outrage. It's kinda obvious that some type of fuckery was involved.


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Title Man works himself to death for his family, still treated like a shit.
Author Klldarkness
Upvotes 1030
Comments 270
Date 11 July 2017 10:15 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/44617
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[–]Docbear64299 points300 points  (62 children) | Copy

This is the guy gents this is the man so many men claim to want to be . Provider ,caregiver , committed husband , father, hard worker who provides his family not just with the basics of life but the luxuries as well and what does Mikey get ? Overworked to the point of exhaustion a wife who berates him for his attempted sacrifice ( shall we take bets if she would have been understanding if he did actually take her advice and work less?) , and death at 36 fucking years old .

By any classical standard you can argue this was a " good man " . It seems like some guys have a really hard time embracing the idea of being focused on yourself first. I get it there is such a thing as being too egotistical , everything in moderation . If the people I love are in pain naturally for most of us it's going to cause us some pain too but this is the opposite extreme .

I bet poor Mikey was a nice guy living the script he was taught and this is how his very brief life ends .... on the couch . R.I.P.

[–]crobertson89152 points153 points  (35 children) | Copy

Nope. If he worked less and they had a little less money he'd be a pathetic excuse for a man and an inadequate provider and a worthless man. There's no winning.

[–]WhorehouseVet46 points47 points  (22 children) | Copy

Mikey has the ball, if he doesn't like the game being played by other children (women), he can just take his ball away and go home.

Ball being the metaphor for his time/money/commitment. But you know MSM, when something that serves the interest of men but not women, it's evil.

[–]harsha_hs24 points25 points  (21 children) | Copy

what ball he has? if he takes his ball(time/money/investment) he will be slapped with restraining order for domestic abuse. there is no winning.

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[–]harsha_hs9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

many of those idiots have never married.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or they're new to it and think she is special, they're different, and it wont happen to them.

[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My friends marriage sickens me to the core when I think about some of the fights/nagging/conversations I've witnessed. He's the first one in our group of friends to get married. I was already against marriage before, but am doubly so now. The only way I'd marry at all was with a prenup & for the purpose of stability for raising children. The whole disney princess turned wife fantasy is completely dead.

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[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How about instead of hearing things, you actually look up the local laws? The law is pretty precise and has one definition.

[–]abc690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn't work like that. If she is providing any type of service in your house (cooking, cleaning, sex) and she is getting something in return like the meal she cooked after you have paid for the ingredients, a ride to her work every week or a cheap rent, then the law will fuck you over as that will be considered the closest thing there is to a marriage without the signed contract

[–]Zippy17760 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Fuck bitches, get money."
 
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"fuck bitches/give money."

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just trying to save western civilization, man.

[–]Peter_Principle_-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Marriage, maybe. There's the potential for some loss there.

The real bear trap is having kids. That is a guaranteed payment plan. Unless you get custody of course (or some other magic fantasy scenario occurs).

[–]RedPill_Swinger-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because when you hit 30 and life seems porpuseless you begin to question your beliefs. I'm not advocating for it, I'm just trying to give a reason as to why people consider marrying.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get married to provide purpose for your life?

LMFAO. We call that a DB- Dead Bedrooms has got you for that idea.

[–]RedPill_Swinger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Being alone at 50 might be a myth for many but a reality for a few and it sucks... why do you think bluepillers buy into the BP? Plus it sucks not to have babies imho

[–]lopsidedlucky17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wrong. There is winning. He would be alive, on TRP learning to bang bitches 10 times hotter than his ex-wife. Would it suck loosing his kids and some cash? Sure, but which do you take. Some suck situation for a few years or death.

This bluepill bullshit is literally fucking killing men. This is not okay. Don't be that guy.

[–]fromthecrypt81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That may or may not happen because NAWALT. But yeah it is not unlikely at all. Although it is more probable that she will "only" try to get sole custody of the kids, take half your shit and bad mouth you to her friends and your common friends. Even that is better than staying though.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

She will bitch if you don't work enough according to her. She will bitch if you work to much according to her.

There is no sweet spot, only bitching, blaming, ungratefulness, and complaining.

Your only hope is to ignore it and be strong enough to drag her out of the modern woman's perpetual bitch fest- except that is even more exhausting than working 18 hours a day.

[–]Dragon_Garoo-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of women in the throes of branch swinging will start to denigrate any and all contributions their partner makes. Why is he sleeping on the couch? Isn't it his bed too? Stuff like this is annoying as hell.

My LTR seeks out extra shifts and ways to help out when money is tight or we want to do something extra outside our budget. And she knows I spin plates. So ya, NAWALT. Gotta find that 10-20%.

[–]metalhead426 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm a 26 year old man child. I got money. I got toys. I got options. I'm a strong independent man who don't need no woman.

[–]Windryder5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

heh. You've got a point, but the fact is that the law and women's attitudes DO fuck men over.

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Then don't fall for it like our betabux sucker here

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[–]crobertson899 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

One option. There are ways around this situation. Maybe I'm just a dreamer but my wife doesn't pull this shit. She knows that if she wants to keep the lifestyle she lives then sacrifices must be made by both of us. I come home to dinner ready and a clean house. I get my rocks off pretty much whenever and however I want. I don't worry about all my money getting spent and an consulted on any purchases over 50$

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

These are known as "boundaries." Try it guys. They actually work and most women will fall in line with reasonable boundaries. The rest can buy a rabbit and fuck themselves.

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[–]rocknrollchuck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look up "How To Build Boundaries During Your Transition" by strategos_autokrator

[–]Yashugan002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The degree to which he will be shamed and belittled depends on how much her sister's husband makes

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (21 children) | Copy

i say we epitomize this man as "The Provider", we should all learn from him and at least give him that respect

[–]zeeohsixer14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

I agree. From henceforth he shall be known as "The Provider". He doesn't have to die in vain.

[–]1337EMP17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

His name was Mikey Murrell

[–]Dragon_Garoo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. So. Much. THIS.

HIS NAME WAS MIKEY MURRELL

[–]zeeohsixer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Did you know him or something?

[–]ThirdEyeSqueegeed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to watch Fight Club

[–]lopsidedlucky12 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy

There is no respect for being "The provider" and each fuck who upvoted you needs to be banned. You are endorsing the disney narrative and you don't even see what you are doing. You are literally spreading the bluepill narrative while trying to read about the dangers of the bluepill narrative.

Yes we can feel sorry for him, yes we can pity him, yes we can feel his pain and know it's depth but no, asking everyone to respect him because he propagated the blue pill narrative is absurd. That's like asking us to respect a gazelle that got eaten by lion because it was a dinner.

This is the red pill. It is not meant to be pretty, it is not meant to help your fragile snowflake sensibilities, it is not meant to be blue, it is not meant for white knights. It's truth and at times that is ugly.

[–]Moneyley15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

In essence, he paid the ultimate price for being married. I disagree with you but only on the premise that each upvote needs to be banned and that he shouldnt be respected. None of us can deny that he paid the ultimate sacrifice for his snowflake. Did Mikey do anything ethically wrong? Morally wrong? He didnt. How can anybody say that a man taking care of his family is wrong? There are redpill men who are married and may have been lucky enough to save their marriage and or just have a good old fashioned reliable and devoted wife. Those men also bust their asses off to provide. If I was you, instead of seeing it as putting "The Provider" on a pinnacle, see it as "this could happen to you if you are oblivious to the truth". Ive been here for a few years and have seen several provider stories and how men have got cucked, none that's resonated like his.

What happened to him is in our DNA... providing goes back to ancient times; however, we've only recently come to terms to mitigate some of the providing we do and reverting more to self preservation as taught on TRP. This is why women claim "there are no more real men out there" because most of us woke up and not paid for first dates anymore. We are effectively mirroring a feminine ideology and asking "whats in it for me?" Girls dont like that. Yet, as other's have posted. Mikey WAS that REAL MAN that they are seeking and this is what happened to him. Both Mikey and his solipsistic bitch ex wife should be idolized here and this story needs to be put on the side bar.

His name was Mikey Murrell

[–]fedja11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

We don't really know the story. If he was killing himself to provide a premium lifestyle to a ditzy instagram attentionwhore of a wife who doesn't pull her weight, he's an idiot. If he struggled to provide a respectable living for his family, as in his kids, he's a tragic hero.

There's few things I won't do to offer my kids a prosperous start to life. I also sometimes work ungodly hours to give them a leg up on their peers. That's what a provider does.

Killing yourself so you bitchy wife gets to go on an expensive Disneyland trip every year cause the fucking princess won't settle for a modestly priced holiday isn't being a provider.

Theres a good and bad lesson to be learned here, depending on how you interpret the story.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also, was there an autopsy? Those pupils are looking mighty blown up in every picture. Just sayin'

[–]Trooper_18684 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing more admirable than working your ass off to provide for your kids so they have more opportunities than you did. They dont seem to mention that in the article. IF you can't see that, then maybe you shouldn't be on here.

[–]TangoZulu4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm going to guess that you're rather young because your post reeks of immaturity. Mikey is certainly a tragic lesson when viewed through a red-pill lens, but that doesn't mean that as men we shouldn't at least respect him for giving everything he had to provide for his family under the "rules" of our society. By all accounts he was a hard-working man and a good father. He was simply mislead by society and lacked the insight of the red pill that we benefit from. Why should that be looked down upon? We were all in his spot once, after all.

Claiming that "he propagated the blue pill narrative" is about as absurd as claiming that the Jews propagated the holocaust. Feminism, the government and the media propagate the blue-pill. And they enforce it's rules upon us all. As men, we need to stick together. Feminism and the blue pill took root because they were effective in dividing men and then conquering us.

We surely don't want to be the gazelle, but that doesn't mean the gazelle doesn't deserve respect for contributing itself to the circle of life. Native Americans had great respect for the animals they hunted and killed; they didn't look down upon the fallen bison, they revered it. Mikey may have been a gazelle, but perhaps that was because no one taught him that he could be the lion. Yet just as the bison provides food and clothing to the Native Americans, Mikey provided us with a valuable lesson to learn from. And I for one respect him for it.

[–]lopsidedlucky-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Trying to shame me for your bullshit conclusion of immaturity is a fucking joke. Get your condescending elitist provider ass out of here. You fool no one. You still want the disney life and you're here on TRP hamstering to make this guy a hero.

Listen, I know it's hard. What happened to this poor cuck was horrific. 400 years ago and she would have been stoned in the street for what she did. However, to say this guy deserves "respect" for literally dying to take this woman to disneyland is a joke.

Yes, many of us were blue pill and could have been this poor guy. And you know what, not a single one of us would have deserved respect for being a sucker. Period. You need to understand that.

The narrative of being a hard working husband putting in 13 plus hours a day to pay for your wife's vacation and your kids is the definition of the blue pill narrative all the while she's cucking you with your own fucking brother. Do you know why? Because those guys are suckers. Those days are gone.

I understand it's brutally tragic. We all want that disney dream of our indoctrination and programming to be true. Have the righteous fortitude of slaving away for a loving family. But this story is about the reality. He, a grown man of means and vocation allowed himself to be cucked by his own brother and ends up dying after a hard days work on the couch. And let's be honest, died of chocking but they don't know how? You know the wife and/or bro took him out. It's sickeningly clear. Wake up.

[–]superjoshuavalentin7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you misunderstood what he meant.

[–]RedPill_Swinger0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You can't blame anyone for expressing gratitude to a man who lived a life in vain and that sense of comradery we all share in times like these when thanks to whining fat unfuckable people and dumbass retarded betas a framework of rules was created to basically invisibly kill the 50% of the western population.

Yes he was beta, yes he could have done a lot better but we shouldn't be blaming a man for following the dangerous narrative we're exposed to since our birth.

I'm not advocating for white-knighting the betas, actually pretty much the opposite, we should bully every beta owning to the fact that they are a direct threat to our well being (everybody knows what happens when you are alone facing thousands of people who want to ruin you and you don't have a well established frame to cope with that) and a lot of people in their process to awaken themselves will fall if they are confronted by huge numbers of betas/feminazis and shit will happen. Also, trying and convince a beta to stop being a beta is counterproductive and you'll fail and be shamed... but this is ONLY valid while people are ALIVE. Bash the beta since they will try to screw you in hopes they'll get some female validation (but they won't get laid we all know that) but commemorate the dead and, please, nobody hate on this brave man all he did was live a scripted life CHEATED by the system. We can learn from him, yes, we should NEVER do what he did but we should not hate on him now. R.I.P.

Ps: I used to try to show the way to some betas, but betas gonna beta and even your closest "friends" will try to fuck you over for a smirk by a post-wall machiavellian mother-of-two sloot.

[–]lopsidedlucky1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't think anyone here is "hating" on him. At the same time to idolize this guy who lived the definition of blue and was cucked by his own brother is to literally buy into the blue pill.

Was he cheated and robbed of a real life? Maybe. But you see when you pedestalize a guy and ask for people to respect him because he did everything wrong according to the tenants of trp and the manosphere but say we should respect him because he did everything right according to the blue pill, that's simply conflicting bullshit.

It's human to empathize with this guy. It could have been any of us. But again, he signed on to the blue pill. Do you respect a guy who get's conned by buying a shitty car from a used car salesman? No. You can feel empathy as a human being but you don't respect the person for it.

[–]RedPill_Swinger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well he was the living example of a BP man, that's clear, I just feel for him and empathise with him. I don't even advocate for a change, truth is I'm too coward to be an MRA, some things will hardly change and we can only indirectly warn people about the risks of a BP life style. At that point it is entirely up to them to take the first step

[–]circlhat4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why I hate it when people say nice guys aren't genuine, women love nice guys, TO USE

[–]RedPill115102 points103 points  (23 children) | Copy

This really sounded like a red pill story.

  • Guy marries a hot looking wife has kids
  • Starts to buy into the idea that he'll get more points for more beta behavior - works more, longer hours, all in the service of someone else - his boss, his kids, his family. His life becomes completely dominated by beta behavior and he loses all alpha status.
  • His wife predictably loses respect and attraction to him. She's actually an ok wife, getting mad at the things that are causing the loss of attraction. Like a typical beta idiot, he doubles down on beta behavior, thinking taking his family to disney is going to make up for it.
  • This is never going to work, but he also gets unlucky and dies as a result of the stress and trying to sleep on the lumpy couch his wife kicked him out onto.

Red Pill Lesson: Some beta behavior is necessary in a long term relationship, but when your beta is more than your alpha your wife will lose attraction for you. When you see yourself heading that way at all, figure out how to avoid it. Change jobs, etc. If you double down on even more beta behavior, not only will you lose your wife but your job might work you to death.

Alternative Theory: A crazy woman rode the cock carousel but eventually hit the wall. So she marries a delta/gamma guy, thinking this will settle things down for her. As time goes on she gets more and more crazy being trapped with such a pushover. He works more and more hours to get away from her craziness. One night he comes home from exhausted and collapsed in their bed. She loses her shit, and smothers him to death with a pillow. She drags his body out onto the couch while still warm to "discover" the next morning and make it look like an accident. She creates a sympathetic story about how he was a good guy who was going to take the family to disney world to divert attention away from herself.

[–]superman12731 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Foul play was my first thought, especially since she's with his brother now.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor40 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can bet if a young woman died after a fight with her husband so severe that she slept on the couch and then the husband started fucking her younger sister days later that he would be charged with murder. EVERY SINGLE WOMAN ON THE JURY would vote to convict him even without any evidence.

[–]Daddie04 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was thinking the same thing, imagine if the roles were reversed? There would have been a lynch mob after the guy until he was convicted of murder, and sentenced to death, even if he was innocent.

[–]1015814_1325 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couple more facts to add to your red pill story: 1. He didn't just 'marries hot looking wife has kids' - she already had a daughter from a previous relationship. He adopted the daughter when they married. Then the couple had twins. 2. He used to lift. Then got an injury (lifting weights) and was diagnosed with spinal arthritis.

[–]UnKnownSurviving20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Perfect explanation. I couldn't have said it better. Really good point of view. Too many guys get fucked to death, and there's no or not even one appreciation.

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[–]JackieBronassis5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude. If one mistake is all it takes to ruin your relationship, then good riddance. Marriage can be cool, if you work hard on yourself first.

[–]yomo864 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

His opinion is stark but considering how many mistakes go unnoticed by a man every /first/ can be the last. Some women like my aunt lose attraction when hubby buys dolls for his daughter, some when the man cooks. It's not an objective point system - only fringe behaviour like this guy is blatantly noticable to us.

[–]Geckobird0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What the fuck kind of woman loses attraction for a man who cooks?

[–]RedPill_Swinger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women never give a real second chance

[–]Wilreadit15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

RP lesson. NEVER get married. Not with Diana, nor Cleopatra nor Shanequa. NEVER

[–]aanarchist7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

she's like a 6 tops. i can understand dudes simping themselves for 10s and 9s but this is a dude who's easy on the eyes and he killed himself working for a vacation for a woman who is neither attractive nor pleasant to be around. that's fucking sad. the sex can't have been good either so like, what the fuck. he just threw his life away into nothing.

[–]CrazedHyperion8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just because a woman is pretty doesn't mean that she is a good fuck partner. At least that's my opinion. Feel free to shoot it down.

[–]aanarchist2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

no you're exactly right. not sure where you got the idea that i thought otherwise.

[–]CrazedHyperion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Someone posted that she was very good looking, I believe, and equated that with being a good lay. I mean, beauty is subjective, right, however, I wouldn't get a BJ from Quasimodo, the hunchback of Notre Dame, even if he was reputed to be the best thing since sliced bread.

[–]PunkYetii0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty sure that is a UK 10...

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

He didnt have kids. He adopted those two. And he posted about raising $3k towards IVF with her (and needed another $3k) a couple months before his death

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[–]Daddie02 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

His kids were probably his brother's already. Daddy finally came home!

[–]CrazedHyperion4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

They really should investigate if there was some life insurance policy on the guy. Actually, as a matter of fact, I think it's a bad idea to take life insurance on yourself with the wife as beneficiary. Because she might get ideas.

[–]grandaddychimp-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Delta and gamma males aren't real. GTFO with that shit

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor95 points96 points  (34 children) | Copy

This chick is now FUCKING the dead husband's brother. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

[–]Tie5o1196 points97 points  (4 children) | Copy

They were probably fucking when he was still alive, as well.

[–]UnKnownSurviving49 points50 points  (2 children) | Copy

Damn. I feel for that dead guy. Total lack of respect.

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Holy shit. She's a mother. She doesn't even change! AWALTs. And she probably murdered him.

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[–]RedPilledGodEmperor15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yeah. It's freaking disgusting. I saw the link to the story in the comments of the original article. I have a brother who is getting married (fingers crossed that they don't get divorced) and if they broke up or he died, I could NEVER consider banging his fiancé. That's some fucked up shit right there.

[–]CrazedHyperion6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

In the old (biblical) days, you were required to marry your brother's widow if he passed away.

[–]UnKnownSurviving14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Also, in those days, you were required to STONE the bitch for adultery.

I see why it was required. They're AWALTs.

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STONE

hahaha its horrific to most people, but IMO without removing capitalism entirely, the only real moral solution is to start stoning bitches again. they are all the same and will do/say anything to weasel out of that truth and continue seeking self-gratifying behavior.

either that, or at least get rid of any notion of child support and if the bitch cheats, only give enough food stamps for the kid. make her get her own provider then, when shes SOL and its a dealbreaker for anyone new and start granting custody to dads, maybe even a paternal support program lol

or end capitalism and remove the motive for wealth and any idea of class based dominance/control and leave that entirely to independently willed third party individuals. then the family unit is obsolete, all children are supported by an outside entity (workers alliance/semblance of gov't) and people can just fuck whomever anytime and walk away with zero socioeconomic consequence

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

the only real moral solution is to start stoning bitches again.

We should just try letting husbands spank them again when they get out of line before we split open skulls.

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on this one I was joking lol at least partially

[–]Lost_My_Keys11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can probably bet the brother has fallen into the same trap. This girl is a praying mantis

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder what the mother/father of the guys think about this.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

I really hope karma hits this bitch x50.

[–]Windryder15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy

There is clearly no such thing as karma. Evidence; way too many shitty people in the world doing shitty selfish things hurting other people and getting away with it all the time, and often being praised for it. The only consequences for people are those devised by other people.

Edit: bunch of ouija board enthusiasts posting after me here. Make sure to "knock on wood" or you'll "curse the team" ding dongs. Belief in things like karma, or crediting success or failure to luck is mental weakness.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh there isn’t? I never knew that. Wow, groundbreaking. Sticky this mods.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is clearly no such thing as karma. Evidence; way too many shitty people in the world doing shitty selfish things hurting other people and getting away with it all the time, and often being praised for it.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[–]xeneize930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah chill karma is real eventually life catches up.

[–]CrazedHyperion-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Karma is, and is neither good or bad. It's the influence on your future based on your past actions. Just because we don't always see karma in action doesn't mean that it does not exist. My opinion.

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[–]CrazedHyperion-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok, so, say a given person kills another person, they get arrested, put on trial, maybe imprisoned or executed. Or maybe the relatives seek revenge. Etc. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. There is no need to believe, even if you don't believe in gravity, it doesn't matter, it acts on you anyway. Actually, sorry, I'm not trying to convince you because it is self-evident.

[–]boxing_eagle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

given person kills another person, they get arrested

Then why hasn't the Zodiac Killer ever been caught and arrested? Actions and their consequences aren't as cut and dry as you like to think.

every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

Not always. Real life isn't as determinate as Physics.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Karma for her AND the brother.

[–]Shakydrummer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Deplorable...but also not surprised.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

'muh sides.

That is RP porn come to life - in uHD.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Huh. There is her kid in her wedding picture with the first one. Single mother?

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/ashley-murrell-mikey-husband-death-photos-brother-chris-dating/

Yup. "They ended up getting married and Mikey adopted Ashley’s daughter Morgan." The more I learn, the more I'm horrified at all this. Single mothers really are the ones you should stay away from.

[–]Shariabluew47 points48 points  (1 child) | Copy

Didn't she hook up with his brother after? Wasn't the cause of death choking for an unknown reason in his sleep? Bitch totally murdered his ass.

[–]blu0219 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Two months later she's dating his brother. They're happy together now. But wait, that doesn't mean she feels any different about her husband. Getting all the attention is probably bringing good cash. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/wife-whose-husband-died-after-fight-finds-love-with-his-brother-just-two-months-later/news-story/fc86529ace12fa994bf3ef85d1f90c17

[–]Radioactivebuny79 points80 points  (13 children) | Copy

I'm at work and archive.is is blocked but you're saying this dude literally fucking DIED and it's all about the wife bitching?

Fuck me... You know as much as the loneliness stings, I have my dignity as a silent but lifelong companion so I guess it could be worse.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 43 points44 points  (6 children) | Copy

That's exactly what I'm saying.

He worked himself to DEATH, and it's all about his wife and family.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

They had a "heated argument" and she made him sleep on the sofa, then he "choked to death" in his sleep according to the coroner, but it was "inconclusive" on how exactly he choked.

Really gets the ol' noggin' joggin'

[–]Windryder15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let's not forget that one of "his" kids was "adopted". She definitely had CC experience.

[–]CrazedHyperion2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Since he wanted to take his kids to Disney every year, I guess Disnaey is to blame for the tragedy.

[–]Daddie00 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Taking the kids to Disney a few times as they grow up? I can see that.

If you take your kids / family to Disney every fucking year? You are a dumb ass.

Tell you wife enough is enough, take charge and plan the whole vacation, something you never did, place you never been too.

Guaranteed you will get laid like never before on that vacation.

[–]CrazedHyperion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's brainwashing the kids with Disney hogwash, that is the worse part.

[–]AussiePhil8225 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

Also, his wife waited a while two months after he died before spreading her legs for her brother in law.

[–]UnKnownSurviving25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, right. Don't believe that for a second. We're still waiting for that autopsy. I'm fairly certain she pre-planned it, and just choked the hell out of his tired neck. Nah, I don't believe anything these bitches say nowadays.

Word of advice: Watch what they do, and not what they say.

A man will say what he means, and means it.

A woman won't. She'll flat out lie to your face. And think of nothing wrong.

[–]CrazedHyperion2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, before marriage. I'll bet she spread the same day.

[–]RedPill_Swinger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're not that naïve, are you? She's been fucking his brother all along and she had to come out two months later because people would have known anyway

[–]spcarlin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, BBC and other British media covered it

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[–]Klldarkness[S] 60 points61 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you!

This was a great synopsis of this tragedy.

This is my takeaway as well. She makes it all about her.

And the fact that she let into him, after seeing how "horrible" he looked? Jesus Christ what a bitch.

[–]UnKnownSurviving19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. lol. That bitch would be out the fucking door.

[–]PillTheRed39 points40 points  (7 children) | Copy

Who will take care of her? Look it up, this cunt of a woman is now fucking her dead husbands brother 3 months after. I highly doubt it was the first time. My guess, she was fucking him behind the guys back for some time.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

Woah. You can't be serious. If that's true, that is some fucked up shit. Heck, I love pussy but if I was dating a woman who died, the last thing I would think about is fucking her sister. She could have fucked any other dude, but is fucking the husband's brother. Also, the brother is a piece of shit for doing that.

EDIT: here is the story. What a real piece of work she is. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

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[–]Psychocist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I've heard of keeping your enemies close, but he really took it to heart!

[–]my_sfw_alias1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

On to blooper brother numero dos

[–]UnKnownSurviving25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah. If this bitch said it to me, SHE IS OUT THE FUCKING DOOR. I owe NOTHING TO HER. Be nice or GET THE FUCK OUT. Simple.

Seriously, too many guys get fucked to death, for being nice. I used to be nice, but niceness doesn't get paid as well, as being stone cold. Not as nearly as much.

Edit:

After reading it again, I just fucking laughed. That bitch would be out the fuckin door. No second thoughts. Any backlash, from anyone, I don't care.

[–]WhorehouseVet7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Except they were married. TBP teaches men to self-sacrifice all for a woman's intimacy and approval.

[–]UnKnownSurviving5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Regardless, she would be out the fuckin door. If she wants back in, fuck that shit. I'll be calling my lawyer the next day. I will NOT let myself be disrespected or let her destroy my peace.

I will have none of it.

[–]red-arctic-tern8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

You sound like a social justice warrior. The man in question wasn't earning respect. You are trying to negotiate respect, that doesn't work.

[–]lopsidedlucky2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're being downvoted by SJW's because you called out SJW's on the red pill. I gave you an upvote back to share in the bullshit bro.

[–]Daddie01 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lesson to learn here boys:

When your wife tells you to sleep on the sofa after working a 8+ hour shift you tell her:

"Fuck you, you don't want to sleep near me? Fine. You sleep on the fucking sofa, the bed is mine."

[–]SovereignSoul761 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa which was stupid because I really just wanted him around more.

Classic woman logic/gaslighting.

"..I really just wanted him around more" "But that makes no sense. You forced him out of his own bed." "IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE! I'M GRIEVING AND HAVE A VAGINA HOLE!"

[–]BrewandRun0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't take selfies with his dead body.

[–]beginner_-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got angry. I was sick of it.

You got angry? You were sick of it? YOU?! You weren't the one working 16 hours a day.

She was sick because he is such a loser to have to work 16 hrs to provide. And lets be honest, she is right. Doesn't make her behavior ok but stop bashing on her. It is a typical case of him being a beta loser.

Had he not skipped a proper education (could also be in trades, maybe better said not skipped learning a useful skill) , no need to work 16 hours. Had he had some balls, no need to spend money on dumb shit like disney world or prague and hence no need to work 16 hrs.

That dude probably thought he won the lottery getting her (clearly higher SMV) and pleased her so she won't leave. Oh was he wrong. And in this case for once he did not pay by loosing all his assets, he paid with his live for his mistake. This is how you end up as a thirsty beta.

[–]Lost_My_Keys5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Such a loser". A guy working 16 hours/7 days is pretty fucking committed strength. That girl took insane advantage of him, and she should have walked out the door. And some men are completely unaware of how "beta" they are. Can't really call him a loser based on his ignorance.

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What a piece of shit brother, anyone who betrays blood like that is a mild psychopath. Seems like the dead brother got all the altruistic genes, and the living brother got all the selfish genes.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Betas will back stab you at the drop of a hat.

I don't understand why anyone would make friends with a beta is beyond me. I cant respect them and we have nothing to talk about.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Blood is different from friendship, don't confuse the two.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Betas don't differentiate between blood and friendship which is the point. They're worthless as friends and I distance myself from my one of my beta brothers

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This isn't Beta, this is a mild form of psychopathy. A beta follows alphas and rules, that's it.

Genetically stealing the mate of your blood relative can be detrimental as the genetic payouts would be low, and the gains would also be low.

For example your nieces and nephews have 25% of your genes. Stealing your brothers mate for the chance of having children that are 50% yours is not worth the danger to your life, to your brothers life and to the lives of your nieces and nephews. The risk of failure is far greater than the gains of success.

A more beneficial mating strategy would be to mate with a new mate, resulting in more offspring having your genes while maintaining the health and lives of your nieces and nephews.

He had no excuse for stealing his dead brothers wife who he was probably fucking all along, he has to have mild psychopathic traits.

[–]xeneize9320 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This reminds me so much of my dad, this really hit me. I can imagine this man doing everything he can to be a good man and do what he was taught to do which is provide for his family. My dad did the same, chased my mom trying to make her happy, going on unnecessary trips and all and at the end she still left him. I really feel for this guy.

[–]PillTheRed19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dig a little further, this bitch is now fucking the guys brother not more than a few months later. Now, was this a new thing that happened? Or, was she fucking him the entire time? We all know the answer to that here. Deep down she is probably happy he died. But, again, we all know that she isn't going to pass up on the free attention.

[–]Moctezuma116 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

I dislike people like her. I was with someone whom always complained I never made enough money or that I was too smart to work with low income families. She never appreciated that while she worked 3pm to midnight shift, I bathe our two kids, fed them dinner, did homework, parent conference with their teachers, pick them up from school, cleaned our house all while having a full time job too. She left me and our kids to be with another man who earns more money, has a big house with a pool and has a fancy truck. Now I'm happy with my two kids, paying my mortgage for my small house and with 2 jobs now. Everyday is a struggle, but I just pretended she was at work anyways.

[–]BadMoles10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

She left her kids? There's a word for women like that and it's not polite.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

There is a point that everyone is missing here. She told him to sleep on the lounge, he did. Any real man would have laughed in her face and said, how about you sleep on the lounge whilst pulling the covers over himself and rolling over for a good night's sleep. As for the rest of the story, wow, you couldn't even make this shit up.

[–]IntellingetUsername2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

100% agree. It's totally this guys fault for being a fucking chump.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

What the fuck? She should have slept on the freaking couch and let him have the bed for working so hard. What a bitch.

[–]Ker_Splish7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah that's where I'm at myself, if the wife is getting all dramatic and insists we're sleeping separately then her ass gets the couch. The bed's mine, I fucking paid for both and I'll sleep where I'm gonna sleep.

Also, if I maintain frame I'll often catch her sneaking back into the bedroom in search of forgiveness and weiner, which I "reluctantly provide" lol...

[–]ChunkyPuff200012 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

When my daughter was born I understood that if I keep working as I do,I will miss her growing up. So the same very day I resigned from my job and took another one with smaller salary, but with much more comfortable working hours. I told my wife that I love her, but if she thinks that this decision of mine is not right, she can file a divorce anytime.So now several years later,I also have a son and pretty much happy. I enjoy my time with the kids and wife. We're still married for seven years now and maybe we cannot afford as much as we could before,but I must tell, no matter how hard we've been fighting I never slept on the couch.I think she knows without me telling that I can do well on my own if needed.

[–]Docbear644 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

You will always be able to buy your kids gifts , but no amount of money would ever afford you those missed hours , days, or nights together . good on you man .

[–]ChunkyPuff20001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing is perfect , we still fight here and there. I used to be there, working 12+ hours shifts, chasing deadlines and customers. However my wife never made a fight out of this. She would even take my cellphone and almost force me to sleep and never there was any couch.Oh and you to have to love make up sex. Anyway, I think I truly understand what this poor man gone through. Is a downward spiral you cannot stop. I think that setting clear boundaries between us and a support of a person that really loves me allowed me to avoid his fate.For now. I am a beta.

[–]Gruppenzwang8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

So she got mad at him for being exhausted and in the second she noticed he was dead she started screaming "YOUR DAD IS DEAD"? Well, what a lovely woman.

[–]Moneyley7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saw this article early yesterday morning. I'm glad somebody posted it.

I'm saddened mainly because he really embodied the type of man that women would call "a real man" and reinforces the mantra that TRP propagates- women dont really know what they want. Dude took care of the kids (i think they weren't actually his), busted his ass of working because he wanted to provide his princess a luxury vacation. The dude was totally in love, so much so that he was blind to all that was going on (his wife was probably flirting, at the least, with his brother)

In Memory of all the hard working men who strive to give the best for their family at whatever the price..... I would like to nominate THIS story and Mikey Murrell to the side bar.

Also, this needs to be archived under "His name was Mikey Murrell"

[–]kmecha96 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The husband literally worked himself to death selflessly for the family and the wife still complains and is treated like the victim : /

He was even working extra 16 hours shifts to save up for their anniversary. The wife got mad and had him sleep on the sofa before his death.

Edit: Yikes Same "Woman whose husband died after she banished him to the sofa has found love again with his brother" Sounds like a black widow spider....Is she really in love again so quickly or looking for another disposable male? Seems a bit too soon for supposed griefing widow.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-whose-husband-died-banished-sofa-found-love-brother-081433639.html

[–]relativebeingused8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had to look up just what the fuck a "beauty therapist" is and it's even bigger bullshit than I thought. Women, this is what you spend your fucking money on? If so, maybe you have enough already.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's another term for "Part-Time Welfare Claimant"

Honestly, it's one of the shakiest, most unreliable "professions" going.

[–]beginner_7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

To all married/cohabitating guys:

The night you sleep on the couch is the night the relationship ended. In case of LTR it's simple: Find a place to stay ASAP and move out. Best if you have family, then you can go there straight without actually sleeping on the couch. If you are married you are fucked. You now need to pretend all is fine while secretly planing the divorce and trying to save as much as possible.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Find a place to stay ASAP

Like sleeping on the couch it is almost never sound legal strategy to "move out." Move HER out. You stay in YOUR home with YOUR kids.

[–]pbgswd6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

what a whore .... anyway, I really like it when you said this:

Don't waste your time, or money, on others. Be the best version of you that you can be, and make sure that you're the one profiting from it.

[–]yomo865 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

The bizzarre odd thing, though, if he had beaten her ass and drunk himself into oblivion every night while still making decent money, she would been so much on Love Mountain.

[–]79rustyk101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i thought the exact same thing.

[–]TheAC9977 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't ever date a chick with eyebrows like that.

[–]brinkleybuzz6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bitter RP lesson learned. Nice guys finish last.

We shouldn't blame a women for doing exactly what nature programmed them to do; use sex to get what they need and want from men ... money, security, comfort, protection, social status, professional advancement, good genes for mating, etc. Women only get away with as much or as little as men allow them to.

Mikey's death is his own fault because he allowed himself to be used and abused. I feel bad for him and those who lost him, but a man should never allow this to happen to himself.

Also, if a chick ever tells me to sleep on the couch in my home and not in the bed I paid for?! The next place she'll be sleeping is at the local shelter.

[–]gmwbh3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do what this guy did. And don't go to Disneyland and other such nonsense. Also don't get girls with mental disorders

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’.

Way to keep it together for your kids

[–]YiloMiannopoulos5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

How the fuck did he die?? Why was that story all about her feelings???

“It’s strange how from something so awful, something good can happen. They are really happy together"

Bitch your husband died and now you're fucking his brother. That's beyond fucked up.

[–]Kommanderdude5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I don't think he died of exhaustion. He apparently choked in his sleep. Something fishy here boys. I think she was fucking his brother the whole time and got rid of him. And who gets banished to the couch? Last time my ltr tried that I just rolled over and did say a word. She ended up leaving to go to the couch. She came back. Lol

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Where's the news?

If you don't respect yourself, don't expect other people will.

If you make a woman your mission, she will despise you for that.

This guy was probably addicted to the external validation which usually came from the wife. This is why it is so important to be self reliant and to be able to validate yourself internally.

Whomever this woman is fucking now is none of our business.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

He sounds like a fairly classic Martyr, he got-off on being the hard-working Daddy and gift-giver.

The fault here is his, he'd built a life that he couldn't sustain and built up expectations (though she reckons she told him to stop, we can't know if that's right) that were impossible to meet over the long-term.

Sad that he's dead though, not least for the child.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

He sounds like a fairly classic Martyr, he got-off on being the hard-working Daddy and gift-giver.

Guy died because of covert contracts. Anyone in similar situation, read "No more mr Nice Guy" at least 3 times ASAP.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Guy died because of covert contracts

Fair to say.

Heard good things about that book but not yet read it myself.

[–]CrazedHyperion-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

So he was a carpet cleaner. I can't see that as a very rewarding line of work.

[–]19yoManChild3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Would love to nail down a specific cause of death, as it is not mentioned in the article.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, best the article gives is that he choked to death.

There may be an update at some point, which would be nice.

[–]UnKnownSurviving1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That should show soon. Unless the bitch has money and bribed the hell out of that coroner. Money can do a lot of things, and we all know that bitches like her, will just cover her shit, and make herself a victim of some shit.

[–]blu020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Chocked to death. Cause inconclusive.

[–]fromthecrypt83 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

As much as I wanna write grotesque shit about what this utter piece of thrash whore deserves, let's just focus on the learning experience this story provides: Work for you and your future only.

Apart from some cool experiences and necessities, give your kids the TOOLS to make it on their own, dont give them too much stuff. Redpill your sons from early age!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

From the article:

When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got angry. I was sick of it.  I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa

Yup - he's working too hard so she kicks him out of the bed (that he pays for) to sleep on the sofa. And these are HER words, you can bet the reality wasn't quite like this.

She only regrets any of this when the guy died.... and she's even using this to get publicity and attention.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

After a 16 hour shift to support my family. You'll bet your arse that bed is mine.

[–]drty_pr3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lesson learned: NEVER SLEEP ON THE COUCH

[–]UnKnownSurviving0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

AND: retaliate

You're the fucking man. It's your fucking rules.

[–]axeAce902 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gentlemen, this is not a one-off event. This has happened MANY times. Only difference is that this was reported on. Rollo Tomassi told us....women can't understand or appreciate the sacrifices men make to even be a man, let alone take care of his family. There is only superficial appreciation at best, but it is never bone deep. Not as bone deep as a man's drive to provide for his family is. The woman just wants the benefits and could care less about how he is running on fumes, so long as she can get Starbucks and Jimmy Choo shoes and take 100,000 Instagram pics a day.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's ok to feel a little sympathy, but we can't just keep having a circle jerk about how horrible women like this are. Honestly TRP and the information on here isn't much of a secret anymore. More men and women know about it than you think. And given that, and this will sound harsh, but I ascribe some blame to the men for putting themselves in these situations. Forever sympathizing with men who make these kind of mistakes, which I see a great deal of in the comment section, is only gonna keep yourself in the anger phase longer. Stories like these should still be posted as a warning about staying blue pulled, but be cautious in not getting too caught up in them

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP and the information on here isn't much of a secret anymore.

Only for Redditors and You Tube Watchers. Tell me how you can "learn the secret" by reading anything in the popular culture or watching ANYTHING on TV or movies. Every single thing they show is Blue Pill and lauds the horrible sacrifices of women while downplaying and denying the sacrifices of men- including this story. Almost every single person reading this story will see a hard working man and a tragic "love" story rather than the abuse we Terps see. Society is literally incapable of seeing female bad behavior and actively ignores it, covers it up, and denies even when it is obvious.

[–]victordmor5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Unbelievable. And slowly my hopes on the women, commited LTR and marriage are ending.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

They tried to teach you this in the Bible, but you laughed at them.

Corinthians. Men 3500 years ago had all this figured out and put down to quill and paper in a timeless fashion. Yet still here we are mocking Christianity as ancient and having no redeeming quality. Women put in charge of the tribe accidentally destroy civilization. Men knew this and thought it was so important to teach every warm blooded man by putting it in a book that people were commanded to read, or would go to hell for dismissing.

And here we are. I'm starting to see the internet come back around to the light of Jesus. Call it anything you want except bullshit, because your life depends on it. This is how Christianity stands through the ages, people periodically figure out that the timeless wisdom there was so true and so timeless that its opponents work themselves to death, causing a resurgence.

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[–]UnKnownSurviving4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's because society and the public make you think that way. You shouldn't let them rule you. In fact, fuck 'em. Christianity does have brute strength nearly close as Islam, (equal, actually) but not as murderer. We can kill if any one dare piss or doesn't respect the boundaries. We give warnings. Only once. I'm not a Christian, but I do believe in GOD and Jesus (Greek name for him; his actual name is in Hebrew), and quite frankly, I have no restraints, when it comes to personal boundaries.

However, Islam is a fucking murderer. There's a slave-mentality in Islam.

That said, give no fucks to no one.

[–]DarthCallidous2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wasn't pissed up until the end with the brother.

Wow.....just wow.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

wtf his kids were even ADOPTED they weren't even his

[–]blisstime2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like that Kafka story, The Metamorphosis.

[–]Moneyley2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

HIS NAME WAS MIKEY MURRELL

[–]menial_optimist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone should walk up to their dad if he is still alive and shake his hand with true appreciation for his sacrifice, it'll probably be the first time in his life anyone's ever appreciated him for that on a genuine level.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

She was a whore after the fact, but that doesn't mean she didn't care at all about the dead guy.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What the shit? She didn't care about the guy, she started fucking his brother 2 months after his death. What in the actual fuck?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Shadilay.

That was my take-away from it too, only thing is of course that she could be lying.

There is no knowing about how congruent her thoughts were, she might have been telling him to cut-back on work in one breath and telling him how excited the kid was to go to Disneyland in the next. We just can't know.

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Wait, you're telling me that a woman might lie when talking to a news network about what happened before her husband's death? Especially if she was a raging cunt beforehand to make herself seem like an innocent victim in the whole thing? I don't believe you.

Are you telling me, kind sir, that she might have contributed to this man's death? No fucking way, she's an angel! She clearly says "words can't describe how great he was" so obviously she appreciated him...

/s

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You've got the general flavour of what I was poking at, yes....

[–]vwzwv1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He was probably fine dying that way. Hear me out. Because the way boys are raised it's typical for men to become addicted to the stimulation that comes from seeing himself as a martyr. "I'll work my ass off and take my family to Disneyland. That's what kind of a man I am" <gets dose of stimulation>. If he can he'll marry a pretty woman and willfully be completely used by her because people will not deny, "I am successful because I have a beautiful wife." He was raised wrong, bought in to image that men who sacrifice are great, great, the greatest men. He might just be glad he died like that because people could say, "He was such a good man he worked himself to death." He doesn't need to be alive to feel the glory because he's a martyr.

The wife on the other hand.. this type of woman is a perfect fit for this man. Just look at her picture. If you've studied body language at all you know the look on her face is the expression of contempt. It's more nuanced than just contempt though. It's closer to, "the expression one gets on their face from the pleasure they get from manipulating and using an individual in totality" Many women's faces look just like that. This is why I've always been leary of the girl character Elsa (I believe is her name) from the movie Frozen. I've never seen the movie, but she looks like the typical manipulator woman that has gone under the radar all her life. I agree with OP 100% when he said the wife's husband'd death was really only about her. I see this behavior in mothers who schedule soccer, ballet, etc for their kids but clearly don't give a f'k about them. For the mother it's all about the self-identity she forces on others "What a good mother she is for taking her daughter to ballet classes" All she cares about is living her own narrative. If the kid can't handle the mold their being put in and acts out the mother will talk to a consoler (whose life mostly consists of going home and watching 4 hours of Women TV shows) and promptly put the child on hard core anti-depressents so the mother doesn't have to deal with any of it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Elsa (I believe is her name) from the movie Frozen.

The signature song "let it go" is NOT the message to women we think it is- it is not "let it go" and quit your bitching. It is "let it go" and watch my allmighty girl power. All those little girls singing "let it go" are singing "let it go" which is about letting go of all your power and letting it out so you can fuck up (freeze) the entire world. It is a perfect metaphor for marriage today. Give the woman all the power. Tell her to "let go" and release all her power. Shortly afterwords, the entire world is a frozen, uninhabitable wasteland.

[–]pn_me_your_dick1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

he did it for his kids fuck his wife

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll be damned if a woman will tell me where to sleep. I'm the one that will tell her to sleep elsewhere. I paid a pretty penny for my bed and I intend to use it.

[–]reddttt1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm young and keep seeing this type of shit among the men around my age. They have to work shitty jobs, study something at an university at night and have a newborn. I mean.. There's a point it isn't even trp, it's common sense! Why make it so hard on your life? I really can't understand.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Our society is set up the same way as societies in the past have been set up. We encourage male sacrifice and female profligacy. Hundreds of thousands of men charged machine gun nests and fell in wave after wave in 1915. It is the same today except the women are "manning" the machine gun nests.

The rallying cry of the bloop: "Come on you worthless maggots. Do you want to live forever? Over the top Get married."

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Exactly. I don't understand the people who have kids when they can't even support themselves. It makes no freaking sense.

[–]reddttt1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You wouldn't believe the amount of dudes who do this where I live. It's like they love being unhealthy drinking stressed kids trying to be adults the most hard way. They are going to be broken at their mid 30's.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep and they will be the ones on welfare crying about how the rich are evil. Honestly, for quite a while, I realized that I don't want kids. Not just because I genuinely don't have a desire for them, but because it's so expensive to raise them. If I did want them, I would only do it when I felt financially secure enough.

People are so desperate for approval by society that they will go in debt and all that, just to be seen as an "adult"

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Any news on what he died of?

[–]Klldarkness[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Choking"

However, the medical examiner marked it as inconclusive, as to how he choked.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She definitely killed the man and was having an affair. No sane person hops in bed with another person, 2 months after someone they were married to, dies.

[–]1TimmyTurnersNuts1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly I do not see the point of marriage. It's a business scheme that isn't worth diving into. You HAVE to be selfish to an extent. I see guys all the time spending hard earn money on people who don't even appreciate the time and money being spent. Do it for you.

[–]juliusstreicher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are a couple of things which stand out, to me.

  1. Her face is awfully fucked up for 35 years old; too much plastic surgery??

  2. Her husband died of 'choking', or strangling, wtf. Hmmm...

  3. Her brother in law is now fucking her. Hmmm...I'm sorry, but, I have read too many Alfred Hitchcock short story collections to let this pass. Let's see, unhappy wife, death by choking, brother takes over pussy duty, all within 2 months??? hmmm...Nope! Nothing wrong with this picture!

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

One look at the fox's plastered face is enough to know who wears the pants in that house.

[–]RPDrogan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm currently studying for an evolutionary psych class and felt this might be relevant.

Our desire to mate/have sex is biological and due to our desire to procreate and pass on our genes.

There are 2 types of mating strategies. Long term mating strategies and short term mating strategies.

Short term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to men. Long term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to women. This can be explained by the fact that Eggs are few, large, and costly, while Sperm are tiny, numerous, and cheap.

So in the sort of relationship in the article, the woman has achieved her goal of finding a man who is a long term provider. However this is not enough for her because she also wants attention which he is unable to give her due to being at work providing for their family. He ended up giving her everything including his life. She ended up fucking his brother shortly after his death.

There's a reason you have trouble staying monogamous. Alphas are meant to pass on their genes to as many mates as possible. Not just 1. Marriage does not benefit men. Long term monogamy does not benefit men.

[–]IamDeathRS1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How can he choke to death in his sleep after a huge domestic altercation, and charges are not filed?

[–]justgotalpha4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guys, do NOT GET MARRY!! under any circumstance!!!

[–]blu020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel like this is one of those girls you look at and instantly see a big red flag.

[–]trpanak1n0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

https://youtu.be/on5Rn_JNl7s

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None of us can know the actual substance of the argument but if she'd honestly been telling him to cut back on work for his health, and that the "extravagences" weren't necessery etc, then I find it hard not to see where she is coming from - but she could just be saying that in hindsight to make herself look better.

Working just to support someone else seems like a living hell to me, I mean, I hate the idea of having kids so I'm perhaps a bit of an outlier but damn - what's the point?

[–]seujeb10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is like a real life version of "The Metamorphosis" by Kafka. Highly recommend it if you haven't read it yet.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not even hot. Beat fuckin hair

[–]MGTOWManofMystery0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

*relegated. Feel free to edit and I'll delete this comment.

[–]MGTOWManofMystery0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, amazing how the article is all about her. Why wasn't she working as well???

[–]Momo_dollar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read on a newspaper her FB status currently says.., in a relationship... and it's with the guys brother!

[–]Zweihander7470 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Western women. Not even once.

[–]Linoran0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeeeeah... Why do I find it hard to believe his health was the topic of their argument.

[–]cashmoney_x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She doesn't give a FUCK. It's so obvious.

[–]AnonX660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This men, is why you don't get married. Work how you want, make the money you want, have the life YOU want. Not the life some random chick shoves you into.

[–]SoSconed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably just another case of hiding money and providing literally no home existence.

16 hours a day is completely fucked. No wonder the women was sick of his shit.

[–]Gbobby1010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The rage is this thread is based on her bullshit story.

The only facts are he came home from a 16hr workday, was found dead of SUFFOCATION the next morning on the couch and she married his brother 2-months later.

[–]sidssahu0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Been recently introduced to this sub, but damn, this story is shit scary and hit a raw nerve. So here goes:

Redpill Lesson - Only marry when:

  1. You're genuinely and absolutely confident in your own self in a truly unshakeable way. Use spirituality, meditation, reading, learning or anything similar which is more deep and robust than your 'personality' or your body to derive your self worth from.

  2. The girl in question has no visible desire to field more seeds and has matured over and beyond this stage.

The latter is tricky to detect and often not under your control. But the former is and that's what truly matters. Even the best wife in the world will lose respect if no. 1 is missing. Also, if one wants to attract the 10s from both the inside and out, radiating that sort of calm self assurance is absolutely necessary. Best of luck to all!

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Only marry when:

You're genuinely and absolutely confident in your own self in a truly unshakeable way. Use spirituality, meditation, reading, learning or anything similar which is more deep and robust than your 'personality' or your body to derive your self worth from. The girl in question has no visible desire to field more seeds and has matured over and beyond this stage.

Never, at least until a man's home is HIS home and a man's family is HIS family by both law and custom.

Fixed that for you. The anti marriage thing isn't about you. It is about the law and our feminist society. Your rules are fine for an LTR or whatever. Know yourself. Don't pick a bitch. Don't stick your dick in crazy. All good. The problem is your exceptions have nothing to do with the problems of marriage and there is nothing you can do personally to make it right except just say NO.

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But it said they got into a fight over the fact that he was wearing himself to the ground...so doesn't that mean that the girl was trying to NOT make him work so much? Am I missing something here?

[–]Hjalmbere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When I read this I can't but help wondering what she brought to the table except her problems and her pussy?

[–]BigBrotherZiggy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When I read about the brother I had to make an effort not to puke, seriously. This is disgusting. And the fucking friends PRAISE her. I'm literally sick

[–]engine13210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This was me, about 3 years ago. Except I didn't die she left because she thought I was working too much and used it as an excuse avoid coming home. I lived the script perfectly and she still left. No winning.

The lesson I learned was a tough one. Get yours and keep it.

[–]sidssahu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm..you're right.

Also, the way the general mood is regarding feminism these days, it's all going to get only worse.

[–]JBrody0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I read about dude passing around a month ago. Wow at the update.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Going to work is often times​ a LOT easier than dealing with the kids.

Fuck off. You do a load of laundry at 11:15 when the Price is Right commercial comes on. Then you put them to bed at 1:00 for a nap and watch 2 more hours of soaps. Then you either play with your own kids or sit them in front of the TV for the rest of the day until Dad gets home.

Harder than work? Give me a fucking break. Staying at home with the kids is EASY and a joy. Taking care of a house is a PART TIME job.

[–]79rustyk102 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

reminds me of the comefian Bill Burr ranting about stay at home moms. funny shit,

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

But would your wife make you sleep on the couch? This woman looks like she's very high maintenance.

[–]deville050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Feminism started when men went off to war. Literally the women's rights movement is built upon the bodies of men. It is what it is and I have no problem with women having rights and being treated like equal citizens. They deserve that. but women need to appreciate what men have done and died for. They need to appreciate and educate themselves to what men have done for them. If men and women went to war, women would loose in 15 minutes. Literally the only reason women even have the kind of rights that they do is because many good men fought alongside them for their rights. Saudi is still a place where women don't have male allies in their struggle for rights and look how far they have got. I also think that the Saudi men don't side with their women for their rights because they can see what is happening in the west now with divorce and superficial bully version of feminists and how men are treated and they are just like "fuck that it's a rabbit hole we are not going down".

[–]Girlforgeeks0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

That's what you took from this?

Not:

wife is concerned about husband (and clearly rightly so). So she tells him, as couples are supposed to communicate.

One can assume she wanted him to understand that trips to Prague and Disney were NOT important, and that she preferred her husband stay the fuck alive?

This is a sad place. It's like The sub incels 2.0.

E: you're mods saw fit to remove this, so I guess truth hurts?

[–]Klldarkness[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

When you care about someone, you don't attack them when they already look sick.

You don't send them to the couch, where they will sleep alot less than normal, while they work 16hr days!

Under no circumstances is arguing with the person that pays for your home, your food, your kids stuff, and your lifestyle, the correct course of action.

She treated him like shit, he died, and now everyone only cares about HER.

Not him, when he's the one that paid for her selfishness.

[–]Girlforgeeks-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wrong. As his wife, she cared about him, and she told him like wives are supposed to.

He could've just as easily died in their bed. It wasn't the couch that fucking killed him.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cared so much she is fucking his brother two months after he died. Cared so much for him that instead of comforting him, she sent him to the couch so he could learn a lesson. Her own words!

She could have gotten a job that actually pays, instead of being a useless beauty therapist, and paid her fair share of the bills.

Then maybe he could have worked 8 hours a day, and still saved up for vacations for kids.

Nope!

Instead, she let this go on for month after month, after month, till he was so stressed, that knowing his sacrifices weren't appreciated, that his sacrifices were hurting his relationship, killed him.

Face the facts. She's a bitch, and a big part of the reason he is dead.

Either way, I'm done arguing with you. I can lead a horse to water, I can't make it drink.

[–]Girlforgeeks-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good, I'm glad you're done arguing bc it means I can inject some sanity.

Her behavior after may be poor. She may be a shit wife who deserves nothing.

That doesn't change the fact that she told her husband- communicated some may say- that he was working himself to death, and SHE WAS RIGHT.

He did work himself to death.

The couch did not kill him, he killed himself.

She warned him he was doing so.

He did it anyway.

Nobody but he is responsible for his choices.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The contrast in perspective and understanding is remarkable. Given the exact same set of facts one group sees a long suffering feeemale while the other sees a man worked to death.

Gynocentrism, gender bias, the 4 to 1 female in-group preference...it's all real guys- with real world consequences.

Rollo said that Women are incapable of appreciating the sacrifices that men make to maintain their imperatives. He was right.

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Mentioned the article about that wife taking up with the brother to my wife... she said, without hesitation, "well, she probably has kids to take care of." There it is, War Brides confirmation in one short, knee-jerk, sentence.



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